Argonath RPG Police Department
GTA: Vice City => VC:MP Complaints => [VC:MP] Closed Complaints => Topic started by: GangstaRas on May 31, 2017, 15:03:42 pm
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Report against: Ray_Corbin
Name(s) of those reporting: [VU]GangstaRas, [VU]rObInX, [VU]Amal, Esmat, Martino_Gonzales, TerrorBoy
Reasons: Blatant Heli-blading
Evidence:
https://youtu.be/kZf0kPdpYp8
https://youtu.be/TPRbcXhwfE4
Other Details:
These two videos are in chronological order. In the first video, we can see that he "accidently" heli-bladed many of us at a local spot on the yacht "in an attempt to land". I was fortunate enough not to be caught in it. The heli-blade counts were so severe he quickly went through the warning limit and got kicked for it. And if you watch closely, if that kick didn't happen, he was proceeding to kill me right afterwards, no remorse.
Even if we give him the benefit of the doubt for the first evidence, what about the second? After the kick, which person in their right mind would let it happen again, you're now informed right? Two minutes later he rejoined and committed the same act again without even a shed of remorse. That's blatant abuse.
There was an uproar in the server as a result from the first wave of heli-kills. There was no point in the uproar Ray_Corbin claimed "he didn't know", instead it was a claim that "it was an accident", leading me to believe he knew he did wrong from the beginning. Within the uproar, [MKt]Silent was generous enough to inform me that the punishment for such a rulebreak is a 6 hour ban so even with this report today against him, that's all he may get.
Now, I'm fairly new to Argonath so idk, but if that is true, can you not say that such a punishment for an offense like this is an impetus for him to carry out such an abuse? I know accidents when I see it, and that wasn't it. What I'm presenting is the act of a person who knowingly did something against the rules because even if he did get caught, he knows he'll get off easy for it in punishment, perhaps but likely due to favouritism in high places. Do you notice how he flew in? What good landing is at the front of the yacht that you thought it was a good idea to land there? Who lands tilting their blade to collide with the yacht risking their own heli to failure? Unless someone is there to chop right? Why not land at the top rear of the yacht that was completely devoid of all threats to him? Why come back 2 minutes later only to do the same thing to get rid of more people? I demand justice and fairness where its due to this case, if that 6 hour thing is true, that is not justice, thank you.
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Yes, it was a mistake and I hold my hands up to that. In the video you can clearly see I was trying to land and exit the helicopter which I managed to do before I got kicked for heliblading. If you want my reasoning for landing on the front of the yacht, that is because it is a safer place to land as you are less likely to get killed. Silent told me this was the best place to land. The next time (video) Robin actually jumped into my blades on my screen so I don't even know why he did that or if it was warp maybe?
I am not going to try and say I am innocent. I did accidentally heliblade them so I was rightfully kicked. However, the abuse I got afterwards in my opinion was unacceptable. The behavior by many VU players was awful. I was a victim of many personal insults after I tried to explain that it was in fact an accident and that I was sorry. I was insulted personally many times and told to "f**k off". If you want the justice you so speak of then you and others will also be dealt with for the constant flaming and verbal attacks.
I'll leave it up to the Chief to decide my punishment.
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I indeed told Razor that its a better plaace to land because at the time the top deck was filled with smugglers all shooting at the heli. I had successfully landed there before so i thought razor would be able to since i am worst pilot of VCPD.
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If these are accidents then you are quite horrid at landing a helicopter on the yacht. What I don't get in the second video is why your blades were leaning towards Robin. To me it looks like the helikill was not accidental. As for the first one, explain to me how it's safer to land on the front of the yacht if everyone is there? Can you not see that there are literally five people on the front of the yacht before ramming into them and killing 3 with your blades? In both instances it looks like you were trying to helikill to me.
You simply don't land a helicopter on a yacht by leaning forward or to the side.
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explain to me how it's safer to land on the front of the yacht if everyone is there?
There were more smugglers on the top deck like Silent said all shooting at our helis with m4 and such.
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I'd like you to explain your landing method. I'm not convinced that this was accidental.
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I'd like you to explain your landing method. I'm not convinced that this was accidental.
I try to land the heli on the yacht and then spam exit many times.
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Why do you arc your heli in a direction that is coincidentally the helikilled players' direction in both instances while you don't even need to go there to land?
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I would like to add something to this report, I've heard that VCPD officers are not allowed to use chainsaw(correct me if I'm wrong) but Ray_corbin used it against us in the same smuggle - (https://s4.postimg.org/x40cp7cql/Capture.png)
And about the heli blade thing, 2 weeks ago during a smuggle this same guy heli bladed me on the yacht but i gave him a chance since it was the first time i saw him in server. Instead of landing on the yacht he is coming straight at me with the heli blades. Here it is - (https://s2.postimg.org/n14p6dcpl/Capture2.png)
Its not over yet, the next time he joined which was 5 days ago he did the same damn thing - (https://s7.postimg.org/zapws8f57/Capture5.png)
And finally 4 days ago i was on a car being chased by officer silent and suddenly Ray_corbin comes with a sea sparrow and blows up my car.
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I don't know about the arc I just use 'W' and the arrow keys to try and control the heli so it stands on top of the yacht.
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So now you are bring up every accident I have made in the last month? How many days have I played in that month? A lot with only two or three times I did it. Accidents happen especially on that yacht because it is very hard to land a helicopter on it.
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So now you are bring up every accident I have made in the last month? How many days have I played in that month? A lot with only two or three times I did it. Accidents happen especially on that yacht because it is very hard to land a helicopter on it.
Not last month its this month and I've said the dates correctly. That is u broke a rule each time u joined the server.
I started playing here few months ago and I've seen only u and silent(but its more like an accident and doesnt happen much) heli killing ppl
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Well the past few weeks me and Silent have been the most active VCPD Officers, so naturally we are likely to make more accidents.
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I don't know about the arc I just use 'W' and the arrow keys to try and control the heli so it stands on top of the yacht.
What do you mean you don't know about the arc? Have you seen the videos? You're going sideways right into the helikilled players. I would like to add something to this report, I've heard that VCPD officers are not allowed to use chainsaw(correct me if I'm wrong) but Ray_corbin used it against us in the same smuggle - (https://s4.postimg.org/x40cp7cql/Capture.png)
And about the heli blade thing, 2 weeks ago during a smuggle this same guy heli bladed me on the yacht but i gave him a chance since it was the first time i saw him in server. Instead of landing on the yacht he is coming straight at me with the heli blades. Here it is - (https://s2.postimg.org/n14p6dcpl/Capture2.png)
Its not over yet, the next time he joined which was 5 days ago he did the same damn thing - (https://s7.postimg.org/zapws8f57/Capture5.png)
And finally 4 days ago i was on a car being chased by officer silent and suddenly Ray_corbin comes with a sea sparrow and blows up my car.
Thanks for reporting this.
Can you provide evidence of the Sea Sparrow usage against your car? Chatlogs would suffice.
Chainsaw usage against chainsaw-wielding smugglers is condoned:
In any situation where a suspect is holding himself up in an enclosed area (this includes but is not limited to bank vaults; smuggle yachts; property interiors and store interiors) while wielding a chainsaw, VCPD personnel is allowed to bring chainsaws in an attempt to counter the chainsaw-wielding suspect. This measure was introduced because of the chainsaw's overpowered nature in enclosed areas and the simple inability cops face in some of these situations to counter them with traditional gear.
So now you are bring up every accident I have made in the last month? How many days have I played in that month? A lot with only two or three times I did it. Accidents happen especially on that yacht because it is very hard to land a helicopter on it.
Well the past few weeks me and Silent have been the most active VCPD Officers, so naturally we are likely to make more accidents.
It would appear the frequency at which you get involved in ''accidents'' outdoes Silent's. That is quite extraordinary in a bad way.
Did you or did you not use a Sea Sparrow against a car?
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Its not fair that criminals bring a chainsaw to every single event but cops cant chainsaw was the only way i could kill people before becoming a officer so its really unfair that nearley evrey criminal uses it but i cant
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Did you or did you not use a Sea Sparrow against a car?
No I did not and Silent can back me up on this.
About the accidents, well I think only two or three times is not bad for 1 month of playing active. But if you say its bad then ok, but problem is I can't stop the smugglers any other way as if I use a boat I can't reach with shotgun
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Razor never used the SS on a vehicle he used it on a boat which is allowed
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What do you mean you don't know about the arc? Have you seen the videos? You're going sideways right into the helikilled players.
I guess the helicopter goes sideways when you use the arrow keys to move the heli in a direction? I don't really know how the game physics work exactly but all I do is hold 'W' for engine and then use the arrow keys to move it in the direction of the yacht and then I let go of W and spam 'F' to exit the helicopter.
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Did you or did you not use a Sea Sparrow against a car?
No I did not and Silent can back me up on this.
About the accidents, well I think only two or three times is not bad for 1 month of playing active. But if you say its bad then ok, but problem is I can't stop the smugglers any other way as if I use a boat I can't reach with shotgun
This topic alone shows 5 instances of helikilling backed up by evidence. I am assuming it has happened more often than just the reported instances, because that is always the case with things like this.
Razor never used the SS on a vehicle he used it on a boat which is allowed
Amal, you've got some explaining to do. Someone is lying here.
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Holy Jesus, Sal if I'm proven correct please give a worthy punishment to both the officers here for lying.
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Holy Jesus, Sal if I'm proven correct please give a worthy punishment to both the officers here for lying.
Same to you. You're just making things up and you should be punished for it
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Punishment is left upto the VCPD Command Staff, not you.
At the moment you're accusing him of something quite serious that he and a witness say you're lying about.
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This was dated 27-5-2017 - (https://s13.postimg.org/dbwku1bdj/Capture.png)
After i picked up a crate from the drug island i landed my heli near the stadium and took a white deluxo(as u can see in the screenshot) and drove off to vice point, When i reach vice point pd silent used /sus on me and when i reached the bridge near vcpd hq Ray shot my car with heli cannon. I immediately stepped out of the car before it exploded and tried to escape. While i was running i told him its not allowed(canbe seen) in the picture. 17 seconds after saying that i got killed. I told him its not allowed but they ignored it meaning they know its a rule break
I even told 'em again after some minutes see their reply - (https://s15.postimg.org/d196wqv2z/Capture2.png)
Later on the same day i told this to =AV=Hype and still both of them ignored it. If i was lying then they would have raised their voice which they didn't. (https://s3.postimg.org/vu79mchhf/Capture5.png)
Furthermore admins can check from the logs whether he used sea sparrow by matching it with my logs.
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The logs dont prove if he used SS amal it just shows you saying that he did
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So I think the logs speak for themselves. Why would I need to raise my voice when I know, and Silent knows, I am innocent?
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Furthermore admins can check from the logs whether he used sea sparrow by matching it with my logs.
We will see who is lying here soon.
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We will see who is lying here soon.
Show some proof of "Ray shot my car with heli cannon" because we all know you can't as it never happened. Your witchhunt game is over Amal.
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I cant just wait for the car to explode and die, i immediately stopped the car and jumped out.
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Why would Amal randomly talk about SeaSparrow shooting if there was no SeaSparrow present?
Someone here is still lying. Fortunately, logs can show whether or not Ray was in a SeaSparrow. Furthermore, they can show whether or not he opened fire.
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Someone here is still lying. Fortunately, logs can show whether or not Ray was in a SeaSparrow. Furthermore, they can show whether or not he opened fire.
good to hear.
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Unfortunately we cannot provide logs of sea sparrow use because such feature simply doesn't exist.
If you have something else to submit than just a conversation about a rulebreak on the main chat then please do.
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i've already provided the maximum i can, maybe if u ask ray to post his logs, we can conclude this.
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Ray, if you can provide the .html file of that day in my PM, you can at least prove you weren't in a SeaSparrow.
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i've already provided the maximum i can, maybe if u ask ray to post his logs, we can conclude this.
(http://i.imgur.com/zokBt6k.png)
I am wondering why this is still open... empty accusations with no proof. Silent has already confirmed I am telling the truth so yeah I think it is weird I have to post logs to prove my innocence but ok. One witness who says he saw me not in a sea sparrow... no logs... no proof.. nothing to say Amal is not a liar?? I hope my name is clear now at least of this false report. I will take the punishment for the accidents with heliblades that was my fault but Amal is trying really hard to put dirt on me..... Silent can confirm that VU are constantly flaming us, harassing us, trying to DM us all the time and we have to stand up to it because most of the time admins are not there. The VU gang hate me and Silent the most because we do our best to stop them smuggling fishing and other illegal stuff and Silent can prove this too. I just wanted to mention this. Good day and hope now this is resolved.
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I am wondering why this is still open... empty accusations with no proof. Silent has already confirmed I am telling the truth so yeah I think it is weird I have to post logs to prove my innocence but ok. One witness who says he saw me not in a sea sparrow... no logs... no proof.. nothing to say Amal is not a liar?? I hope my name is clear now at least of this false report. I will take the punishment for the accidents with heliblades that was my fault but Amal is trying really hard to put dirt on me..... Silent can confirm that VU are constantly flaming us, harassing us, trying to DM us all the time and we have to stand up to it because most of the time admins are not there. The VU gang hate me and Silent the most because we do our best to stop them smuggling fishing and other illegal stuff and Silent can prove this too. I just wanted to mention this. Good day and hope now this is resolved.
First of all, I'd like you to send the full .html file to my forum PM, not just a screenshot.
This report isn't just about the supposed SeaSparrow fiasco. On top of that, that is something that we haven't quite cleared yet. This report is still open because I don't want to overlook anything and look at this from a completely impartial perspective.
Amal, what have you got to say for yourself? It looks like RazorX was in a Police Maverick, not a SeaSparrow and thus could never have shot you with a helicannon.
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(http://i.imgur.com/zokBt6k.png)
This is 100% fake. He edited the line where he enters the sea sparrow and took this screenshot.
Also from his logs you can see at 10:30:42 he tried and failed to enter the truck yankee owned by the VCPA located in vice port. So he turned his attention to the flatbed ID 172 parked near to him, took that and drove off to the airport hangar where the Sea Sparrow is located. Its a 42 sec ride from port to the Sea Sparrow which I'm demonstrating in the video below and his logs say he took 44 secs to reach the sea sparrow. That's all i can say since i didn't record any footage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lf4kzLm1Mo&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lf4kzLm1Mo&feature=youtu.be)
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Why We are Taking it So Long ....We Got Admins here..Send the Admin Logs.
This looks like an administrative case rather than an ARPD related case.
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Why We are Taking it So Long ....We Got Admins here..Send the Admin Logs.
This looks like an administrative case rather than an ARPD related case.
It is both.
It's taking so long because RazorX hasn't sent the .html logs yet in my PM inbox. This is what I asked him to do in the first place.
Amal, could you do the same please? That way any discrepancies will become obvious.
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Amal, could you do the same please? That was any discrepancies will become obvious.
I've sent it.
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Still waiting for Ray's logs.
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This will also be investigated from an administrative point of view and anyone caught lying will answer to me.
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Preliminary findings issue immediate removal of Officer/FBI Trainee Silent from the entire VCPD.
Any trashtalk ingame about any decisions made here can have follow-up consequences, so be nice to each others.
I will continue my investigation with the logs and provide the head of VCPD any evidence to help them make a educated decisions regarding this.
Also Ray_Corbin a.k.a RazorX is to provide the .html file of his log as soon as possible, refusal to do so will automatically have you removed from the PD.
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RazorX has exactly four more days from now to provide this .html log.
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Punishment to FBI Trainee Silent has been officially issued as a result of this report and a previous report filed by RobinX.
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RazorX has exactly four more days from now to provide this .html log.
This deadline was extended in hopes of reaching a different conclusion.
It has however been seven days now.
RazorX has been fired from the VCPD for conveniently going inactive in the middle of an investigation of one instance of him abusing his rights, in combination with all the other instances of him being out of line in many different instances.
Thank you for your report.
Investigation closed.