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Kowalski.:
Complaint

Reporter's name: Steve McQueen

Operative's name & rank: Kerrar, LCPD Cadet
Time and date of the incident: 1/01/2018, exact time unknown

Brief description of the incident: Greetings LCPD High Command,
I pulled over an LCPD + NOOSE Cadet, Saqib Gatsby, for reckless driving, after I saw his car drift into barriers. I then performed a traffic stop and discovered the vehicle was un-roadworthy (rear brake problem)

Cadet Kerrar was watching me from the very beginning, even after stating a C4 in the radio. I called a mechanic, Nisanz, to inspect the problem. We found a torn brake hose leaking fluid, and ruined linings. We went to a local mechanic garage to fix the vehicle, and Cadet Kerrar followed us. He kept watching us, even after being asked to leave. I believe, that this, in theory, is against the law, as stated in the laws of Liberty City.


--- Quote ---Act 6.8
A person who stalks, follows, spies on or watches a person repeatedly without his consent is guilty of harassment.
--- End quote ---

Kerrar stated that Saqib Gatsby told him that I had pulled him over for an invalid reason and that he was going to "moderate" me. As an Academy Cadet, he has absolutely no right to "moderate" ARPD Officers. It is not the LCPD's responsibility to handle ARPD Officers, yet Cadet Kerrar somehow thought I was his responsibility.

This is against the law, as quoted above.

My demands are:
Cadet Kerrar is fired from the LCPD and a 2-month application ban is applied.
Cadet Kerrar is imprisoned for breaking Law 6.8

Witness(es): Nisanz, Saqib Gatsby.

Evidence(s): https://imgur.com/a/r4492

Signed,
Steve McQueen
Disturbed Citizen

DwaYR:
Greetings, Mr. Steve McQueen.


I would like to inform you, that neither LCPD or ARPD Officers have the right to tell other officers to "go away". No law enforcer has the right to send someone away, as we are all equal.


--- Quote ---We can not overtake leading of the investigation(in this case traffic stop) that one free-cop started or to deny organization of a patrol that someone is assembling. We can only give suggestion or monitor the whole process to ensure it is done properly. If the player is abusing something/someone, call administration via /report.
--- End quote ---

As far as I see on the pictures, no harm was done by the LCPD Cadet and he was just monitoring, whether there is everything good and safe. He did not even interrupt in the RP, he just asked what the violant did and then kept monitoring.


The law you have posted counts on a person as a whole, but law enforcer has the right to step on property or stand wherever he wants, as long as it is according with laws.

--- Quote ---Ordinance III:
Because of the ownership of a property, an owner may lawfully request a person to leave their property. This does not include businesses which are public markets. The above ordinance does not apply to enforcers of law who have probable cause to be on the property.
--- End quote ---

You have also stated that:

--- Quote --- It is not the LCPD's responsibility to handle ARPD Officers,
--- End quote ---
It is our responsibility to handle the ARPD Officers.


--- Quote ---My demands are:
Cadet Kerrar is fired from the LCPD and a 2-month application ban is applied.
Cadet Kerrar gives me $25,000 ARD as compensation.
Cadet Kerrar is imprisoned for breaking Law 6.8
--- End quote ---

I think that is too much for monitoring an occuring situation. Please do not overdo your demands.
Also, what makes you think you should get a compensation of that high amount? How´d you get to this amount?


I would also like to have the other side to speak and state their story.


Signed,
Dway A.R.
LCPD Lieutenant

Steven S.:
I would like to say that this isn't a court, demands aren't needed and LCPD will issue what it deems necessary.

Kowalski.:
To start, there was absolutely no probable cause for Kerrar to be on the property.

Kerrar does not NEED to be monitoring me. I was allowed to join duty for a reason. Also, ARPD Officers are the responsibility of the administration, not LCPD, as we are, for one, not bound by LCPD procedures, but for two, not under any chain of command or any lead.

Also, the law I posted was Act 6.8 and not Ordinance III of the constitution, and I don't know where it came from, as I didn't mention it at all. My point is, Kerrar didn't have my consent to be repeatedly watching me and following me around. That is indeed against the law, and LCPD are bound by all laws, LCPD are, as you've said, equal to everyone else.

Another point is that Cadet Kerrar isn't above an ARPD Officer and it is not his responsibility to be monitoring an experienced ARPD Officer who knows what he is doing.

The academy Cadets role is to learn, and not to be acting like they are above ARPD, as Kerrar also came into LCPD as an ARPD Officer and had no more or no less experience than any other self-respecting veteran player dedicated to the police role.


--- Quote from: Steven S. on January 21, 2018, 12:12:27 pm ---I would like to say that this isn't a court, demands aren't needed and LCPD will issue what it deems necessary.

--- End quote ---

Acknowledged, Captain Seagal.

I will await your reply before continuing.

Regards

Steven S.:
Did the above mentioned LCPD Cadet order you to do a determinate thing or he was just watching?

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