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Title: [SA:MP] SAPD COMMAND NOTICE :: Codes clarification
Post by: FlameMan on April 14, 2012, 22:46:43 pm

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SAPD COMMAND NOTICE

Codes Clarification




The SAPD Command Staff is trying to make every officer fully understand the laws and rules. The same comes with codes. After seeing that plenty of our officers misunderstand some of the codes, I suggested slight correction and clarification on the definitions and implementing one helpful code. This suggestion got approved by the Leaders of SAPD.

From now on, the usage of Code 1, Code 2 and Code 10-7 will change. The new definition is set as following:

Code 1 - Proceeding without lights and sirens. (As an answer to the 911 or radio call)
Code 2 - Proceeding urgently, with lights and sirens at intersections only.
Code 3 - Proceeding immediately with lights and sirens.

Many officers has been wrongly seeing the relation between being on/off duty and in/out of service (codes 10-7 & 10-8). There is a clear distinction between these. You can be on duty but 10-7, during a break or investigation. That is why we are implementing a new code and clarify the definition of another one.

Code 10-6 - Out of service but available for emergency calls.
Code 10-7 - Out of service and unavailable for emergency calls.
Code 10-8 - In service.

Explaination: 10-6 during the paper work at LSPD or during a regular donut break. 10-7 can be used for instance - while doing an admin work. 10-8 = patroling, being available.

Hope that will be clear enough for you now.

In case of any questions - post here or contact me personally via PM or MSN.


Signed,

(http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/5571/pieczeccaptain.png)

Captain Robert Longstreet
SAPD HQ


Approved by:
- Chief [R*]Pancher
- Dept Chief Paul Caltson
Title: Re: SAPD COMMAND NOTICE :: Codes clarification
Post by: Dolfa on April 14, 2012, 22:51:07 pm
Thanks for the notification, it looks good.
Title: Re: SAPD COMMAND NOTICE :: Codes clarification
Post by: Fuzzy on April 14, 2012, 22:54:58 pm
Noted
Title: Re: SAPD COMMAND NOTICE :: Codes clarification
Post by: Francisco Martinez on April 14, 2012, 23:08:50 pm
Noted.
Title: Re: SAPD COMMAND NOTICE :: Codes clarification
Post by: Fred on April 14, 2012, 23:12:10 pm
Noted.
Title: Re: SAPD COMMAND NOTICE :: Codes clarification
Post by: SafetyMoose on April 14, 2012, 23:17:16 pm
I still use my IRL codes IG so I doubt this will help me remember but Noted none the less XD
Title: Re: SAPD COMMAND NOTICE :: Codes clarification
Post by: Mash on April 15, 2012, 00:23:11 am
During a traffic stop, if you want to report standby I usually use Code 1. Must I write it now? :hit:
Title: Re: SAPD COMMAND NOTICE :: Codes clarification
Post by: FlameMan on April 15, 2012, 00:36:01 am
During a traffic stop, if you want to report standby I usually use Code 1. Must I write it now? :hit:

Yeah unfortunately
Title: Re: SAPD COMMAND NOTICE :: Codes clarification
Post by: Ben on April 15, 2012, 00:46:41 am
10-7 always bugs me...I see cops calling it, and they still drive round in cop cars? Grr...
Good to see 10-6 introduced.
Title: Re: SAPD COMMAND NOTICE :: Codes clarification
Post by: Jack Baker on April 15, 2012, 00:54:46 am
Noted
Title: Re: SAPD COMMAND NOTICE :: Codes clarification
Post by: Renz0 on April 15, 2012, 01:26:47 am
Finally.
Title: Re: SAPD COMMAND NOTICE :: Codes clarification
Post by: Mash on April 15, 2012, 01:28:21 am
10-7 always bugs me...I see cops calling it, and they still drive round in cop cars? Grr...
Good to see 10-6 introduced.
We can't be in service and drifting you know :redface:
Title: Re: SAPD COMMAND NOTICE :: Codes clarification
Post by: Roske on April 15, 2012, 01:32:49 am
Noted
Noted
Title: Re: SAPD COMMAND NOTICE :: Codes clarification
Post by: Kenny on April 15, 2012, 02:15:20 am
The Academy has already implemented this changes into the training program, the staff have already been notified. The current cadets and the SAPD members do need to read this also and confirm they have read this & understand.

Signed,
Lieutenant Kenny
SAPD Chief of Academy
Title: Re: SAPD COMMAND NOTICE :: Codes clarification
Post by: [Rstar]Paul on April 15, 2012, 02:19:52 am
The Academy has already implemented this changes into the training program, the staff have already been notified. The current cadets and the SAPD members do need to read this also and confirm they have read this & understand.

Signed,
Lieutenant Kenny
SAPD Chief of Academy

Acknowledged.
Title: Re: SAPD COMMAND NOTICE :: Codes clarification
Post by: Larry "Pixy" Faulke on April 15, 2012, 02:29:16 am
Cadets and SAPD applicants have been notified of these changes through the announcement thread on their respective boards.
Title: Re: SAPD COMMAND NOTICE :: Codes clarification
Post by: Chief J. Schappell on April 15, 2012, 03:25:19 am
Guys, don't forget to clarify which SAPD. MTA:SA SAPD exists too. ;)
Title: Re: SAPD COMMAND NOTICE :: Codes clarification
Post by: Mash on April 15, 2012, 06:18:46 am
Guys, don't forget to clarify which SAPD. MTA:SA SAPD exists too. ;)
Not to be rude but I believe half of us found that out the minute you told it :lol:
Title: Re: SAPD COMMAND NOTICE :: Codes clarification
Post by: [Rstar]Paul on April 15, 2012, 06:28:17 am
It's quite obvious to see this is for SA:MP unless someone does not understand it is not which i doubt.

No comment.
Title: Re: SAPD COMMAND NOTICE :: Codes clarification
Post by: Chief J. Schappell on April 15, 2012, 06:49:32 am
It's quite obvious to see this is for SA:MP unless someone does not understand it is not which i doubt.

No comment.
The topic title still says SAPD. It shouldn't be assumptions because this can confuse new players.
Title: Re: SAPD COMMAND NOTICE :: Codes clarification
Post by: SafetyMoose on April 15, 2012, 06:54:33 am
It's quite obvious to see this is for SA:MP unless someone does not understand it is not which i doubt.

No comment.
The topic title still says SAPD. It shouldn't be assumptions because this can confuse new players.

Stop making a big deal out of something that is blatantly obvious please. If you cant figure it out then you probably would not know how to turn a PC on in the first place.
Title: Re: SAPD COMMAND NOTICE :: Codes clarification
Post by: Allison on April 15, 2012, 06:57:46 am
It has really became apparent that this is SA:MP from this entire conversation. Besides, JayL didn't post it, so it's REALLY not MTA:SA.

Lets get back on topic....
Title: Re: [SA:MP] SAPD COMMAND NOTICE :: Codes clarification
Post by: JDC on April 15, 2012, 07:04:27 am
Title edited to avoid any future confusion.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] SAPD COMMAND NOTICE :: Codes clarification
Post by: SeanC on April 15, 2012, 07:09:47 am
No offense, but when SAPD is mentioned, its barely referred to an inactive server.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] SAPD COMMAND NOTICE :: Codes clarification
Post by: Chief J. Schappell on April 15, 2012, 07:16:32 am
No offense, but when SAPD is mentioned, its barely referred to an inactive server.
Not only is MTA:SA not inactive, but that justifies absolutely nothing. ARPD is one agency with multiple Departments that are all seen as equal. Something being obvious still does not help new players who don't know that two SAPD's exist. What if a new player came to this website from MTA:SA and thought the rules applied to SA:MP, and got in trouble for using the wrong ones? Then what?

Title edited to avoid any future confusion.
Thank you. I don't know what the big deal about adding a few simple characters to make new players aware was such a big deal. We have 3 same-named Departments in each of the cities/states. It should be apparent by now that new players might get confused by that pretty easily...
Title: Re: [SA:MP] SAPD COMMAND NOTICE :: Codes clarification
Post by: SeanC on April 15, 2012, 07:22:04 am
MTA:SA's SAPD isn't on the very active state right now.

I'm not sure why a new player would go for news and announcement right away as well to a code announcement to learn things about SAPD.
Each board of a PD is entitled with their specific server in front, [SA:MP], [LU], [MTA:VC], [VC:MP] but there is no [MTA:SA], therefore I haven't seen codes made for MTA:SA, if a new player is coming here and saying this is MTASA, they would still think its ridiculous to have 3 codes only, por que?

This isn't a big deal at all, que, we need to have news and announcement separately as well now?
Its pretty obvious, this announcement is made by FlameMan and his rank totally reads '[SA:MP] Captain', [SA:MP].

Common sense, why would SA:MP's SAPD interfere in MTA:SA's SAPD?
Title: Re: [SA:MP] SAPD COMMAND NOTICE :: Codes clarification
Post by: Chief J. Schappell on April 15, 2012, 07:25:46 am
MTA:SA's SAPD isn't on the very active state right now.

I'm not sure why a new player would go for news and announcement right away as well to a code announcement to learn things about SAPD.
Each board of a PD is entitled with their specific server in front, [SA:MP], [LU], [MTA:VC], [VC:MP] but there is no [MTA:SA], therefore I haven't seen codes made for MTA:SA, if a new player is coming here and saying this is MTASA, they would still think its ridiculous to have 3 codes only, por que?

This isn't a big deal at all, que, we need to have news and announcement separately as well now?
Its pretty obvious, this announcement is made by FlameMan and his rank totally reads '[SA:MP] Captain', [SA:MP].

Common sense, why would SA:MP's SAPD interfere in MTA:SA's SAPD?
MTA:SA's SAPD, as stated by JayL, consists of any active ARPD Officers that can be automatically part of the Department without applying. That is why MTA:SA SAPD has no boards. They still exist as an official organization, as authorized by Gandalf himself, and is run under JayL's authority as MTA:SA SAPD Chief. Is it really worth an off-topic ****storm to just clarify which PD it is for new players? This is a cross-server board, not the SA:MP ones, so care should always be taken to specify what server(s) a topic applies to. Each Department will have varying regulations and announcements from time to time. That does not mean we should just post and make everyone assume which one it is. I understand that FlameMan probably just forgot the tag out of habit since he has been with SA:MP SAPD since long before MTA:SA was in development. That's not a big deal. That's why I left a hint. This giant conversation wasn't really needed just to get the point across when someone could have simply taken the initiative to update the first post and call it good.

Now that this is fixed, let's just get back on topic guys. I don't want to derail things further. The debate wasn't really needed.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] SAPD COMMAND NOTICE :: Codes clarification
Post by: SeanC on April 15, 2012, 07:31:00 am
MTA:SA's SAPD isn't on the very active state right now.

I'm not sure why a new player would go for news and announcement right away as well to a code announcement to learn things about SAPD.
Each board of a PD is entitled with their specific server in front, [SA:MP], [LU], [MTA:VC], [VC:MP] but there is no [MTA:SA], therefore I haven't seen codes made for MTA:SA, if a new player is coming here and saying this is MTASA, they would still think its ridiculous to have 3 codes only, por que?

This isn't a big deal at all, que, we need to have news and announcement separately as well now?
Its pretty obvious, this announcement is made by FlameMan and his rank totally reads '[SA:MP] Captain', [SA:MP].

Common sense, why would SA:MP's SAPD interfere in MTA:SA's SAPD?
MTA:SA's SAPD, as stated by JayL, consists of any active ARPD Officers that can be automatically part of the Department without applying. That is why MTA:SA SAPD has no boards. They still exist as an official organization, as authorized by Gandalf himself, and is run under JayL's authority as MTA:SA SAPD Chief. Is it really worth an off-topic ****storm to just clarify which PD it is for new players? This is a cross-server board, not the SA:MP ones, so care should always be taken to specify what server(s) a topic applies to. Each Department will have varying regulations and announcements from time to time. That does not mean we should just post and make everyone assume which one it is. I understand that FlameMan probably just forgot the tag out of habit since he has been with SA:MP SAPD since long before MTA:SA was in development. That's not a big deal. That's why I left a hint. This giant conversation wasn't really needed just to get the point across when someone could have simply taken the initiative to update the first post and call it good.

Now that this is fixed, let's just get back on topic guys. I don't want to derail things further. The debate wasn't really needed.
This topic in this board isn't the only one which is obvious to everyone within the forum even though its not tagged with what server is it suppose to refer to.

For example;
ARPD Promotions & Awards (http://arpd.argonathrpg.com/forum/index.php?topic=1182.0)
Suspensions and Demotions (http://arpd.argonathrpg.com/forum/index.php?topic=1182.0)

These two main topics doesn't have a tag on nor on every post it says SA:MP PROMOTION or SA:MP DEMOTION and it hasn't been a big deal to understand for years, so why this all of the sudden then?

If we gotta have everything known to what it should be then from now on, there should be a written rule where we must put a server tag on every single topic made in public areas then.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] SAPD COMMAND NOTICE :: Codes clarification
Post by: Chief J. Schappell on April 15, 2012, 07:37:16 am
This topic in this board isn't the only one which is obvious to everyone within the forum even though its not tagged with what server is it suppose to refer to.

For example;
ARPD Promotions & Awards (http://arpd.argonathrpg.com/forum/index.php?topic=1182.0)
Suspensions and Demotions (http://arpd.argonathrpg.com/forum/index.php?topic=1182.0)

These two main topics doesn't have a tag on nor on every post it says SA:MP PROMOTION or SA:MP DEMOTION and it hasn't been a big deal to understand for years, so why this all of the sudden then?

If we gotta have everything known to what it should be then from now on, there should be a written rule where we must put a server tag on every single topic made in public areas then.
Those topics aren't tagged because each person who posts in it specifies the server in the post since the topic is for all servers. This topic is clearly for SA:MP SAPD only.

As for tagging things, I agree on that if it's a cross-server board and it only applies to one server. There are 2 LCPD's, 2 VCPD's, and 2 SAPD's. The tags are there to help those that it isn't obvious to. Remember, new players often make mistakes even when the obvious is presented to them. :cop:

Now please, let's get back on topic. We can continue via PM if you like. :)



A question regarding Code 1...shouldn't responding to 911 calls usually be a code 3 response since they are urgent emergencies?
Title: Re: [SA:MP] SAPD COMMAND NOTICE :: Codes clarification
Post by: SeanC on April 15, 2012, 07:48:43 am
Your question, it will depend on the 911 call.
Code 3 will be used to proceed in pursuits, deploying a suspect and such situations.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] SAPD COMMAND NOTICE :: Codes clarification
Post by: SafetyMoose on April 15, 2012, 07:51:28 am
Your question, it will depend on the 911 call.
Code 3 will be used to proceed in pursuits, deploying a suspect and such situations.

For example, a Code 1 Response could be a 911 call that refers to trespassing, noise complain. Things of less urgency.

Or better yet, you know those calls to the cops you do IRL and they show up the next morning? Those.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] SAPD COMMAND NOTICE :: Codes clarification
Post by: [WS]Adam[BCSD] on April 15, 2012, 09:11:32 am
Noted
Title: Re: [SA:MP] SAPD COMMAND NOTICE :: Codes clarification
Post by: A. Alonso on April 15, 2012, 09:13:52 am
Got it!
Title: Re: [SA:MP] SAPD COMMAND NOTICE :: Codes clarification
Post by: Pedro on April 15, 2012, 10:02:58 am
Noted.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] SAPD COMMAND NOTICE :: Codes clarification
Post by: Huntsman on April 15, 2012, 10:22:15 am
Finally!

10-6 code is nice addition! Wisely done!
Title: Re: [SA:MP] SAPD COMMAND NOTICE :: Codes clarification
Post by: Ben on April 15, 2012, 10:30:47 am
Code 1 and Code 2 can be used when a 207 BLUE is declared, for example. You are not required to respond yet...so I normally plod over slowly.



Guys, don't forget to clarify which SAPD. MTA:SA SAPD exists too. ;)
Aww shit, this topic is about SA:MP? I never guessed  :eek:
Title: Re: [SA:MP] SAPD COMMAND NOTICE :: Codes clarification
Post by: Pingster on April 15, 2012, 10:40:37 am
Noted.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] SAPD COMMAND NOTICE :: Codes clarification
Post by: Cester on April 15, 2012, 12:11:14 pm
Understood.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] SAPD COMMAND NOTICE :: Codes clarification
Post by: Kenny on April 15, 2012, 18:18:39 pm
From the moment an SA:MP SAPD Captain posted the topic iys pretty obvious its about SAMP..so leta stop the argument and all the cadets and officers please acknowldge  you have read this so you are in no doubt later on.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] SAPD COMMAND NOTICE :: Codes clarification
Post by: Lionel Valdes on April 15, 2012, 18:19:17 pm
Aknowledged.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] SAPD COMMAND NOTICE :: Codes clarification
Post by: Divine on April 15, 2012, 19:54:43 pm
Aknowledged.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] SAPD COMMAND NOTICE :: Codes clarification
Post by: AirOne on April 15, 2012, 21:50:01 pm
copy
Title: Re: [SA:MP] SAPD COMMAND NOTICE :: Codes clarification
Post by: Arslan on April 18, 2012, 18:56:46 pm
I understand.

Arslan_Carter
Title: Re: [SA:MP] SAPD COMMAND NOTICE :: Codes clarification
Post by: [Rstar]Paul on April 22, 2012, 03:52:11 am
Hope everyone has acknowledged this.

Topic unsticked.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] SAPD COMMAND NOTICE :: Codes clarification
Post by: Oliver Daniels on April 26, 2012, 10:16:52 am
Code 1 should retain its previous meaning (call acknowledged) and simply add Code 2.5 for the "fast response with lights and sirens at intersections only" bit.

But nevertheless, acknowledged.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] SAPD COMMAND NOTICE :: Codes clarification
Post by: Arthur_K on May 27, 2012, 06:59:56 am
This is noted on my list. This post can be very helpful to some.

Signed,
Cadet Arthur
Title: Re: [SA:MP] SAPD COMMAND NOTICE :: Codes clarification
Post by: Hamza on May 27, 2012, 12:38:02 pm
Noted.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] SAPD COMMAND NOTICE :: Codes clarification
Post by: TinMan on May 28, 2012, 22:08:52 pm
Noted. I read this the first day it was here just never replied.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] SAPD COMMAND NOTICE :: Codes clarification
Post by: Max_Prison on May 28, 2012, 22:24:49 pm
Hmm, I got it; Noted.
Title: Re: [SA:MP] SAPD COMMAND NOTICE :: Codes clarification
Post by: Julio. on May 29, 2012, 00:59:13 am
I read this the first day it was here just never replied.

Nice.

I thought the old SAPD codes were pretty obvious tto be honest.

Ah well, doesn't make a difference to me anyway  :devroll:
Title: Re: [SA:MP] SAPD COMMAND NOTICE :: Codes clarification
Post by: AGvardia on July 12, 2012, 10:54:47 am
I understand.

Title: Re: [SA:MP] SAPD COMMAND NOTICE :: Codes clarification
Post by: Castiel on August 27, 2012, 20:56:53 pm
I understand.

Title: Re: [SA:MP] SAPD COMMAND NOTICE :: Codes clarification
Post by: Goodandy on August 27, 2012, 23:29:38 pm
You're kinda late bud...
Title: Re: [SA:MP] SAPD COMMAND NOTICE :: Codes clarification
Post by: Darxez on August 27, 2012, 23:31:42 pm
Some months.... Reasons why he didn't understand the codes  :hit:.
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