Argonath RPG Police Department

GTA: San Andreas => SA:MP Complaints Desk => SAPD Information Center => [SA:MP] Closed Complaints => Topic started by: Dutchy on December 07, 2012, 17:02:49 pm

Title: [ARPD Report] - the_garishfour
Post by: Dutchy on December 07, 2012, 17:02:49 pm: Directed to: SAPD authority.
ARPD Officer Policy violators: the_garishfour

1. the_garishfour - After I drove past a traffic stop, involving multiple officers I was moments later suspecting for "avade", after not hearing any sign or warning to stop, like /m1 or /m STOP or whatever. I then decided to drive towards LSPD and request an investigation, after finding myself not guilty. The suspecting officer the_garishfour and his partner Certified_Luke followed me inside, telling me they did tell me to stop. After a short while ARPD officer the_garishfour unloaded a clip of combat shotgun into me and I died. While sitting in an investigation room, unarmed, pretty much surrendered. After I died, I contacted Rydell_Downson for aid, thus he can confirm that the particular officer killed me.

a. Pictures..
(http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/851/samp073s.png)
(http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/6185/samp079da.png)
(http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/1446/samp080nu.png)
b. Other evidence..
Chatlogs:
[16:24:31] Albania_Force(37) shouts: i didnt kill you!!
[16:24:34] Leon_Arallian(78) says: Nope.
[16:24:35] mike_70(18) says: im going back now
[16:24:42] Dutchy(87) shouts: wat de kanker is hier aan ed hand!!
[16:24:44] Albania_Force(37) shouts: i su you and i ask to pay the fine!!
[16:24:51] Leon_Arallian(78) shouts: Niks; al opgelost!!
[16:24:53] HyugaBlazeT.(76) says: Albania, you've done enough
[16:25:34] You were suspected by officer the_garishfour(44) for avade
[16:25:50] Cops are still too close.. (3)
[16:26:50] Dutchy(87) says: I would like an investigation.
[16:27:00] Dutchy(87) says: I did not see any message, nor hear you tell me to stop.
[16:27:09] Dutchy(87) says: I didnt hear any sirens.
[16:27:23] Certified_Luke(22) says: we have screen shoots.
[16:27:34] Dutchy(87) says: Yeah and I have screen shots of not seeing any message.
[16:27:40] Dutchy(87) says: No /s1, nothing.
[16:27:54] Certified_Luke(22) says: and if you didnt hear us you need a hearing aid, js.
[16:28:13] You lost your weapons and have paid coroner fees of $1000, surrender next time.
[16:28:29] Present moderators: Leon_Arallian(78)
[16:28:29] Present administrators: [Rstar]BAH_HUMBUG(29) Rydell_Dowson(38) Cyril_Olaso(48)
[16:28:38] PM to Rydell_Dowson(38): Hey Rydell can you help me out?
[16:28:45] PM from Rydell_Dowson(38): sup?
[16:28:54] PM to Rydell_Dowson(38): Can you tell me the name/id of the cop that just killed me?
[16:29:02] PM from Rydell_Dowson(38): 44
[16:29:03] PM to Rydell_Dowson(38): I was sitting in the investigation room
[16:29:06] PM to Rydell_Dowson(38): thanks
[16:29:07] Error: target player not connected.
[16:29:10] PM to Rydell_Dowson(38): hes off.
[16:29:19] PM to Rydell_Dowson(38): but .. i was sitting there, wanting an inves
[16:29:20] PM from Rydell_Dowson(38): name was the_Garishfour
[16:29:23] PM to Rydell_Dowson(38): and he combadded my ass.
[16:29:39] PM to Rydell_Dowson(38): ok thanks, I'll report him on the arpd forum.
[16:29:50] PM from Rydell_Dowson(38): if I see him I'll have a talk with him also
[16:29:55] PM to Rydell_Dowson(38): Sure, thanks
These chatlogs are edited, I removed all text irrelevant to the cituation, to prevent flooding. If anyone wishes to review the full chatlog, PM me.

Date: Friday - 7-12-'12.
Time: 16:25 - 16:30

Civillian(s) involved: Dutchy, Rydell_Downson (Not present during violation, but witness of the admin chat, stating my death caused by the_Garishfour).

Signed
Dutchy
Title: Re: ARPD Report - the_Garishfour
Post by: Rydell Dowson on December 08, 2012, 14:50:05 pm: I can coniform that Dutchy was killed by that officer with a combat shotgun, I wasn't able to check it further or question the officer because he had already left.
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] - the_Garishfour
Post by: ramirogarza on December 10, 2012, 00:54:19 am: I also have a little bit evidence of that cop working.

I was driving a tractor and i was taking a state car. Then this cop appears on foot, i keep driving then i got suspected.
(http://i1243.photobucket.com/albums/gg553/ramiro0412/sa-mp-663.png)

After that i got this:
(http://i1243.photobucket.com/albums/gg553/ramiro0412/sa-mp-664.png)

Hope you guys take care of that cop. He might be new or something, but he can not just go suspecting people.
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] - the_Garishfour
Post by: Omar Aly on December 10, 2012, 11:11:22 am: Is he still on the server? If so, can anyone contact him as I don't see him IG.
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] - the_Garishfour
Post by: Dutchy on December 10, 2012, 11:53:05 am: Quote from: Omar Aly on December 10, 2012, 11:11:22 am
Is he still on the server? If so, can anyone contact him as I don't see him IG.

I'll try to if I see him.
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] - the_garishfour
Post by: Dutchy on December 13, 2012, 01:30:29 am: I've made contact with the_garishfour's partner Certified_Luke, who was present during the situation. I asked him to leave a statement on how he witnessed the event, he said he would do that, so now let's wait.
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] - the_garishfour
Post by: Dutchy on December 18, 2012, 13:54:26 pm: For the record:
the_garishfour has not changed his name, so he should be recognisable.
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] - the_garishfour
Post by: Omar Aly on December 18, 2012, 18:46:16 pm: I never see him IG, I'm waiting for him.
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] - the_garishfour
Post by: Dutchy on December 19, 2012, 13:56:22 pm: Quote from: Omar Aly on December 18, 2012, 18:46:16 pm
I never see him IG, I'm waiting for him.

Yesterday, xcasio told me he last logged on one day before that (so 2 days ago, from now). So at least he's still maintaining minor activity.
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] - the_garishfour
Post by: Omar Aly on December 19, 2012, 21:28:05 pm: His activity due to panel (http://panel.argonathrpg.eu/index.php/profile/68777) Indeed activity is really unstable, we'll have to try and catch him then.
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] - the_garishfour
Post by: Dutchy on December 21, 2012, 15:18:07 pm: Here is his punishment list:
Ajail copbaiting.     Leon_Arallian December 9 2012
Ajail Dm     [Rstar]BAH_HUMBUG December 6 2012
Warning dont kill suspects that have surrendered. MrmElve_Miller December 1 2012
Kick shooting a unmoving suspect. Cofiliano_Gvardia November 30 2012
Warning ramming.     Cofiliano_Gvardia November 30 2012

When you look at the underlined ones, it seems he's a bit of a recidivist..
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] - the_garishfour
Post by: Omar Aly on December 21, 2012, 21:39:17 pm: I understand, yet we need to hear his statment first. If this will do anything it will increase punishment due to the punishment history. But I can't judge the report based on admin punishment, that's not any evidance..
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] - the_garishfour
Post by: Def Perry on December 31, 2012, 17:01:04 pm: Did you contact him yet? If not, do you wish to continue this report?
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] - the_garishfour
Post by: Dutchy on January 02, 2013, 02:17:49 am: Quote from: Def Perry on December 31, 2012, 17:01:04 pm
Did you contact him yet? If not, do you wish to continue this report?

I don't know the forum name, I've never encountered him before or after the event. It says he last logged on 1st of January.. I also don't think he'll voluntarily make a statement here. It's best to either apply action or drop it, in my opinion.
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] - the_garishfour
Post by: Def Perry on January 02, 2013, 02:30:10 am: Quote from: Dutchy on January 02, 2013, 02:17:49 am
Quote from: Def Perry on December 31, 2012, 17:01:04 pm
Did you contact him yet? If not, do you wish to continue this report?

I don't know the forum name, I've never encountered him before or after the event. It says he last logged on 1st of January.. I also don't think he'll voluntarily make a statement here. It's best to either apply action or drop it, in my opinion.
He deserves to drop his statement as needy as you do. Therefore, the Garishfour has to be contacted and informed about this report. I sincerely hope you do understand this.
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] - the_garishfour
Post by: Dutchy on January 02, 2013, 18:57:27 pm: Quote from: Def Perry on January 02, 2013, 02:30:10 am
Quote from: Dutchy on January 02, 2013, 02:17:49 am
Quote from: Def Perry on December 31, 2012, 17:01:04 pm
Did you contact him yet? If not, do you wish to continue this report?

I don't know the forum name, I've never encountered him before or after the event. It says he last logged on 1st of January.. I also don't think he'll voluntarily make a statement here. It's best to either apply action or drop it, in my opinion.
He deserves to drop his statement as needy as you do. Therefore, the Garishfour has to be contacted and informed about this report. I sincerely hope you do understand this.

If I see him, I'll tell him. I've been trying to do this ever since the report started. But if he is so inactive that it becomes almost impossible to contact him directly, I can't do a lot.
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] - the_garishfour
Post by: Dutchy on January 03, 2013, 20:51:49 pm: the_garishfour's current name is 'Garish_ColomboT'.
Source: http://panel.argonathrpg.eu/index.php/profile/68777
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] - the_garishfour
Post by: Omar Aly on January 06, 2013, 02:20:17 am: Are you still interested? If so please contact him.
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] - the_garishfour
Post by: Dutchy on January 06, 2013, 11:32:23 am: I am still interested. I can only contact him when I see him directly in game. If I don't get that chance, I can't do anything.
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] - the_garishfour
Post by: Pingster on January 07, 2013, 03:49:06 am: Although I'm unrelated to the case, due to the timezone differences, I've seen him online a few times, and have notified him.

[admin]No one but the reporter, valid witnesses, SAPD Command Staff (Lt+ or Sgt if given permission), subdivision leaders/supervisors, FBI Agents+ may post on reports If you have something to state and don't fit this criteria, tell someone who is.[/admin]
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] - the_garishfour
Post by: Omar Aly on January 07, 2013, 09:51:47 am: I've also notified him, now that we know he's notified I can give him 24 hours to reply here or actions will be taken without his statment.
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] - the_garishfour
Post by: Dutchy on January 07, 2013, 16:27:05 pm: Quote from: Hardy on January 07, 2013, 03:49:06 am
Although I'm unrelated to the case, due to the timezone differences, I've seen him online a few times, and have notified him.
Quote from: Omar Aly on January 07, 2013, 09:51:47 am
I've also notified him, now that we know he's notified I can give him 24 hours to reply here or actions will be taken without his statment.

Thank you, Hardy and Omar.
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] - the_garishfour
Post by: Sushi on January 08, 2013, 02:51:40 am: If possible, get his activity to assist Omar in the report. We will try our best to get a statement from him, if he says he doesn't want to give one, we can proceed without his statement.
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] - the_garishfour
Post by: Dutchy on January 08, 2013, 14:13:51 pm: Last Seen Online
January 7th 2013

Is that what you mean?
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] - the_garishfour
Post by: Omar Aly on January 08, 2013, 14:33:22 pm: He was already noted about that report and I don't think he'll reply..
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] - the_garishfour
Post by: Omar Aly on January 09, 2013, 17:35:47 pm: Conclusion will be made within the next 24 hours. If anyone has anything to add he may do so now.
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] - the_garishfour
Post by: Dutchy on January 10, 2013, 02:33:41 am: I will still stand by the context of the report and won't change my opinion about the situation.

What I do want to note is that Garish should progress from this report, even though it puts him in a negative position. The report was made to inform the ARPD authority of this behaviour, but the actual meaning isn't to simply 'punish' Garish for what he did; it is to show him and make it clear why he was punished, why what he did was wrong and how he could better himself to prevent future recidivistic patterns. It's possible to just lay a temporary copban on him, notify him on the actions taken against him, but what does he make out of it? He's obviously working on orientation within the criminal side, joining Colombo.
Plain punishment shows him that being a freecop is easy to get into trouble, doesn't really amount to anything and basically puts being part of the ARPD in a negative perspective.

If he is properly informed and adressed in a way where he is on the same level as ARPD authority, in the form of thinking and acting and sees reason and logic in his punishment; I will have achieved the highest form of acomplishment from writing this report.
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] - the_garishfour
Post by: Omar Aly on January 10, 2013, 15:10:08 pm: Yeah Dutchy I understand that, and that's the main objective of this board, to make sure the officers learn and never repeat mistakes again, and that's why you'll find many reports comming out of here with a warning only, because our main objective is to teach them, but that officer doesn't even care, he doesn't even want to come here and post his statment, so I can't hold his ear by force and teach him, so in that case he'll keep getting punished till he's willing to act properly.
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] - the_garishfour
Post by: Dutchy on January 11, 2013, 05:44:42 am: Quote from: Omar Aly on January 10, 2013, 15:10:08 pm
Yeah Dutchy I understand that, and that's the main objective of this board, to make sure the officers learn and never repeat mistakes again, and that's why you'll find many reports comming out of here with a warning only, because our main objective is to teach them, but that officer doesn't even care, he doesn't even want to come here and post his statment, so I can't hold his ear by force and teach him, so in that case he'll keep getting punished till he's willing to act properly.

So be it.
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] - the_garishfour
Post by: Omar Aly on January 26, 2013, 04:06:12 am: He hasn't been spoted in the server by any of us, since the day this report was filed, do you wanna go on with this report?
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] - the_garishfour
Post by: Dutchy on January 29, 2013, 15:01:04 pm: Quote from: Omar Aly on January 26, 2013, 04:06:12 am
He hasn't been spoted in the server by any of us, since the day this report was filed, do you wanna go on with this report?

The record (http://panel.argonathrpg.eu/index.php/profile/68777) states that he was Ajailed by [WS]Caltson for deathmatching on the 19th of January 2013, if this is related to this report, lock it.
If not, justice still has to be served.
If the SAPD feels justice won't be required, lock it.

I didn't make this report so that I would benefit from it, I made this report so that this ARPD officer would learn from his mistake and the ARPD staff quality would be improved by 0.001%.
So don't ask ME if I feel the need to continue this report, as that is a question to ask either yourself or your superiors.
I've said all I had to say, it's up to the SAPD to make this call; lock, continue, I don't mind.

http://panel.argonathrpg.eu/index.php/profile/68777 (http://panel.argonathrpg.eu/index.php/profile/68777)
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] - the_garishfour
Post by: Omar Aly on February 06, 2013, 19:36:55 pm: (http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/7318/patchwithcuffs2300.png)
San Andreas Police Department
06/2/2013

STATEMENT IN REGARDS TO THE CLOSURE OF THIS REPORT

On the December the 7th 2012, at 17:02 HOURS a report was submitted by Dutchy as a lawful citizen of the United States of Argonath.
Since then, an investigation has been conducted by the SAPD command staff member:
- Sergeant Omar Aly
- Deputy Gould

The summary and conclusion of the report has now been decided and will be released to the public.

-- The defendant was told about the report yet never came to provide his statment.
-- The reporter was successfull in presenting valid and clear evidance.

-- In conclusion, ARPD Officer Garishfour_ColomboT has been issued a suspension from duty for two days.

If the verdict of this report seems unfair to anyone, you can report this to me to a Deputy Chief via an ARPD Forum PM and we might reopen the case if your argument is valid enough.

Signed,
Sergeant Omar Aly