Argonath RPG Police Department

GTA: San Andreas => SA:MP Complaints Desk => SAPD Information Center => [SA:MP] Closed Complaints => Topic started by: Louis on February 01, 2013, 17:22:26 pm

Title: [ARPD Report] Officer [ADF]Ben Hells
Post by: Louis on February 01, 2013, 17:22:26 pm: Directed to: SAPD authority.
ARPD Officer Policy violators: [ADF]Ben_Hells

1. [ADF]Ben Hells - I was stationary on the LS - LV Highway looking for any wrong ramp users, after about two minutes of being there ARPD Officer Ben Hells drove up the ramp on the incorrect lane, putting his life, ARPD Officer Celso Williams life and any other innocent people's life at danger.

a. http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/577/samp017xb.png/ (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/577/samp017xb.png/)
b. ARPD Officer Celso Williams was in the officers car

Date: 1st Febuary 2013 approximately 17:12 CET
Time: Approximately 17:12 CET

Civillian(s) involved: N/A

Signed
Senior Officer Louis
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Officer [ADF]Ben Hells
Post by: David Gonzalez on February 01, 2013, 17:59:20 pm: I i remember correctly we where driving downt he ramp the a call came on TS of a suspect on a Train and we turned back around, again if i am not mistaken!

Celso Williams.
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Officer [ADF]Ben Hells
Post by: Omar Aly on February 01, 2013, 22:33:33 pm: Hello, my I'm Sergeant Aly I will be handling this report, according to Celso's report, they didn't use the incorrect ramp of mulholland but instead U-turned before going down, is that what you saw Louis?
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Officer [ADF]Ben Hells
Post by: Louis on February 01, 2013, 22:46:54 pm: No that is not what I saw. They drove up the wrong ramp is what I saw.
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Officer [ADF]Ben Hells
Post by: David Gonzalez on February 01, 2013, 23:22:47 pm: Has i said there was one time where me and Officer Ben where going to LS and then we got a report that a suspect in a Train and we did a U turn where i remeber Louis being there.
Now there where a lot of situations on that day, but i dont recall one where we went the rong ramp up (i might have been AFK to check the forums or something).
So i dont want to say that it did not appen, i am just saying that i dont think Ben would do that if it wasnt an emergency situation.
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Officer [ADF]Ben Hells
Post by: Louis on February 01, 2013, 23:39:38 pm: Quote
Due to several casualties initiated by the law enforcement members of the state, we would like to enforce the usage of the Mulholland Intersection road to be for incoming traffic ONLY.
It doesn't matter if you have a siren or a whale stuck into your vehicle. Despite the priority of the incident, it is always required for you to use the right road.

Quote from Chief Hernandez a few days ago.

Also the officer failed to turn on the siren.
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Officer [ADF]Ben Hells
Post by: Omar Aly on February 02, 2013, 00:39:51 am: If you're unclear about your statment, please don't share it with public. As giving your statment as witness is a really sensitive matter, and lying could get you in trouble. Anyways can you get the defendant himself to post here?
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Officer [ADF]Ben Hells
Post by: Louis on February 02, 2013, 00:43:36 am: Quote from: Omar Aly on February 02, 2013, 00:39:51 am
If you're unclear about your statment, please don't share it with public. As giving your statment as witness is a really sensitive matter, and lying could get you in trouble. Anyways can you get the defendant himself to post here?

I did notify him however no response.
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Officer [ADF]Ben Hells
Post by: Omar Aly on February 06, 2013, 19:59:55 pm: I will try to contact him then.
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Officer [ADF]Ben Hells
Post by: Ben Hells on February 08, 2013, 12:28:22 pm: To be honest I was not driving up the wrong lane I was only driving up on the grass.. The train situation does ring a bell however since this picture doesn't show if my siren is activated or not I would be unsure on what situation. However I am sure the large police patrols could verify about the train situation.

So as the picture shows yes I was near the road driving what would be the wrong lane of travel if I would be on the road. However I wasn't on the road I was driving up on the grass most likely responding to a situation as Celso has said.

Thank-you
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Officer [ADF]Ben Hells
Post by: Omar Aly on February 08, 2013, 22:21:43 pm: So Ben, did you get up the wrong RAMP or up the grass near the wrong ramp, or did you just make a turn in the middle of the highway and went on incorrect lane?
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Officer [ADF]Ben Hells
Post by: Louis on February 09, 2013, 00:50:51 am: Ben drove up the wrong ramp, just at the moment when I took the screenshot he had turned and headed onto the grass.
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Officer [ADF]Ben Hells
Post by: Ben Hells on February 09, 2013, 01:08:46 am: Louis I was driving on the grass. So I obviously was taking precautions to keep everyone safe. Your unable to prove otherwise. Omar the picture does show I was driving near the wrong lane of travel however I was not on the road so I never broke any rules since I never was on the actual ramp.

Besides we all have a job to do. If you require more reports like this I can park my car there and take picture of every cop that drives up. You would be flooded with saps and arpd reports if I do so. So obviously this is a one off thing. Besides where Louis was parking isn't safe for both lanes of travel. He should be on the grass either side of the road.

To the point why should I get investigated when saving lives obviously out weighed the risk otherwise I would not have done so.

Thaankyou.
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Officer [ADF]Ben Hells
Post by: Omar Aly on February 09, 2013, 01:19:41 am: Driving on the grass is still going up the incorrect way, verdict of this report will come out soon.
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Officer [ADF]Ben Hells
Post by: Ben Hells on February 09, 2013, 01:24:49 am: That is incorrect. On the grass is classed as offload. This case is incorrect for its meaning. Was not on the road. I shall be looking for further information on this case.
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Officer [ADF]Ben Hells
Post by: Louis on February 09, 2013, 01:53:55 am: No, you was driving on the road, you then changed onto the grass. Yes, you are right, I have no evidence to prove that.

Your dishonesty appalls me.
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Officer [ADF]Ben Hells
Post by: Ben Hells on February 09, 2013, 03:05:29 am: Quote from: [WS]Louis on February 09, 2013, 01:53:55 am
No, you was driving on the road, you then changed onto the grass. Yes, you are right, I have no evidence to prove that.

Your dishonesty appalls me.

I don't recall any of your information other then me driving on grass true.. Since you reported me and only me since I see multiple people do this act you are bias and you must have something against me which I find childish. For a person who puts other officers in trouble for doing their duty. I find you personally wrong and childish. I can see why there has been an increase of criminals since people like you take good cops off the road.

I did nothing wrong and the constitution states a police office can be exempt from the road rules if reporting code 3 which you can't prove if I was or not.
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Officer [ADF]Ben Hells
Post by: Ben Hells on February 09, 2013, 03:54:51 am: Louis can I ask why you wait a month before posting this report and why not talk to me first. Not try once then give up. Also could I ask where is your evidence since the evidence is not proper role play evidence since what you are reporting me for is a traffic violation which is a role play situation which would make your evidence fake since I don't see anything saying you activated or turned on a camera. Now that is stated in report to leader rules. Last time I checked a traffic violation is a role play situation.
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Officer [ADF]Ben Hells
Post by: Louis on February 09, 2013, 13:41:59 pm: Date was a mistake, it happened on 1st Febuary not 1st January. Fixed
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Officer [ADF]Ben Hells
Post by: Omar Aly on February 09, 2013, 16:32:48 pm: (http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/7318/patchwithcuffs2300.png)
San Andreas Police Department
09/02/2013

STATEMENT IN REGARDS TO THE CLOSURE OF THIS REPORT

On the February the 1st 2013, at 17:22 HOURS a report was submitted by Louis as a lawful citizen of the United States of Argonath.
Since then, an investigation has been conducted by the SAPD command staff members:
- Sergeant Omar Aly

The summary and conclusion of the report has now been decided and will be released to the public.

Officer Ben said he went up the grass, which he considers off road and not by the ramp, while Louis insisits he went up the ramp. Officer did not have his siren on as it appers in the picture. Officer was on the incorrect lane, on grass comming up from LS as it appers in the picture.

-- In conclusion, Officer Ben is issued a warning about his actions and it's recommand that next time he goes up the correct ramp instead of going on the grass or incorrect ramp.

If the verdict of this report seems unfair to anyone, you can report this to a Deputy Chief via an ARPD Forum PM and we might reopen the case if your argument is valid enough.

Signed,
Sergeant Omar Aly