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Title: [ARPD Report] Mario, Jimbo and Ricardo Johnson.
Post by: McScrooge on February 25, 2013, 14:30:22 pm
Directed to: SAPD authority.
ARPD Officer Policy violators:

1. Freelancer Jimbo; firstly suspected me for shooting after they rammed into me and Skerdi inside the Pay and Spray.
     - (Skerdi was inside the Pay and Spray with a Sultan and I was inside the Pay and Spray with an NRG.)
2. Freelancer Mario; probably enjoyed to double suspect me for shooting. 
3. Freelancer Ricardo Johnson; as icing on the cake, he suspected me for the third time for shooting.

And without a warning or usage of the megaphone they opened fire by drive-by. And after I died, freelancer Mario found it necessary to do some provoking through PM.

 a. Evidence:

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And yes I reported Mario in-game but the help you get these days is: "PM: [email protected]."


Date: February 25, 2013.
Time: 14.15 CET

Civillian(s) involved: Skerdi Soprano.


Signed,
Scott O'Reilly
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Mario, Jimbo and Ricardo Johnson.
Post by: McScrooge on February 25, 2013, 14:35:21 pm
Officers have been informed.

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Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Mario, Jimbo and Ricardo Johnson.
Post by: Jimbo on February 25, 2013, 17:17:45 pm
Did you stated the reason why i rammed you first?
You shot at our patrol car and we suspected you.You then flee away with you're nrg and we took you down.Oh and about the suspections i'm not sure if its an coincidence but i guess we all /su you at the same time.





Signed,Jimbo
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Mario, Jimbo and Ricardo Johnson.
Post by: Skerdi. on February 25, 2013, 18:05:54 pm
As witness i say that the cops rammed me and than they rammed Scott , than Scott shot and than they /su him 4 times for shooting

Regards ,
Skerdi_Soprano
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Mario, Jimbo and Ricardo Johnson.
Post by: McScrooge on February 25, 2013, 18:45:43 pm
As Skerdi stated. We were repairing when you rammed with high speed into the PnS.
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Mario, Jimbo and Ricardo Johnson.
Post by: Josh. on February 25, 2013, 18:57:57 pm
Do not lie ..
We were near Idlewood Pay and Spray., you were us shoot us for no reason and then you run away ..
So everyone accidentally gave you sus ​​..
We just wrote it quickly so you got out of all sus ..
And before we start shoot you me do /m3..
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Mario, Jimbo and Ricardo Johnson.
Post by: McScrooge on February 25, 2013, 20:44:20 pm
I don't understand your English. All I understand is that you accuse me of lying. Well why would I take the time to make this report if I'm just lying? Makes no sense.

Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Mario, Jimbo and Ricardo Johnson.
Post by: Omar Aly on February 25, 2013, 21:00:57 pm
Just to clear it up, are you just repoting them for resuspecting, or for ramming?
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Mario, Jimbo and Ricardo Johnson.
Post by: Skerdi. on February 25, 2013, 21:04:31 pm
Do not lie ..
We were near Idlewood Pay and Spray., you were us shoot us for no reason and then you run away ..
So everyone accidentally gave you sus ​​..
We just wrote it quickly so you got out of all sus ..
And before we start shoot you me do /m3..

Well you didnt ram us thats why i flew more than 10 meters
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Mario, Jimbo and Ricardo Johnson.
Post by: Josh. on February 25, 2013, 22:27:12 pm
Raming We did not do it.
And part of the sus, it was a mistake that we gave sus at the same time
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Mario, Jimbo and Ricardo Johnson.
Post by: McScrooge on February 25, 2013, 22:40:51 pm
Just to clear it up, are you just repoting them for resuspecting, or for ramming?

I am reporting them for ramming, triple suspecting and provoking (Mario).
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Mario, Jimbo and Ricardo Johnson.
Post by: Josh. on February 25, 2013, 23:24:24 pm
Just to clear it up, are you just repoting them for resuspecting, or for ramming?

I am reporting them for ramming, triple suspecting and provoking (Mario).
about the ramming I dont know I not was the driver.
about the triple suspecting it's was a mistake.
I know I did not do anything wrong so do not address me specifically.
If they do something that's not my problem, I'm only was in the car.
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Mario, Jimbo and Ricardo Johnson.
Post by: Omar Aly on February 26, 2013, 15:30:42 pm
The time interval between the suspections is 1 second each, so there is no way it's meant (except first and last) but anyways, and about ramming, as far as I understand you alright shoot them for ramming you, so you can't take matter into your own hands and then report them.
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Mario, Jimbo and Ricardo Johnson.
Post by: McScrooge on February 26, 2013, 19:25:29 pm
That's why I didn't put "ramming" into my report in the first place. Double suspecting is not allowed, they could have unsuspected me and re-suspect me once, a simple PM would solve it.

Then about the provoking, I don't see the point of sending such PM. I don't even know him and I don't want to know him so the excuse "joke" is out of the question here.
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Mario, Jimbo and Ricardo Johnson.
Post by: Sushi on March 03, 2013, 04:46:01 am
As Omar has stated, the multiple suspections can easily be excused due to the time between each of them.

Let me get the timeline right at the moment:
You guys in the PnS > Officers ram into you > Officers suspect you > Officers shoot and kill you

or

You guys shoot at officers > Officers suspect you > Officers shoot and kill you



You have confirmed with Omar that you are reporting them for ramming, multiple suspections (which has been cleared) and provoking.

The ramming, there is currently no evidence of and the provoking could be seen as a general warning. We will ask Mario to make a statement about his comment, which could be seen as malicious.

Will proceed on the 4th of March, 2013 regardless of reported officer's statement.
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Mario, Jimbo and Ricardo Johnson.
Post by: McScrooge on March 03, 2013, 10:50:08 am
As I already said, they could have re-suspected me. My /rhl increases with minutes by triple suspecting which is just script abusing. If they want to work as a team, they should make clear that officer X uses /su.

First timeline is right.

I don't see any 'warning' in such a PM. I've been playing here long enough to understand what the consequences might be if I evade. It's just a provocation.
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Mario, Jimbo and Ricardo Johnson.
Post by: Sushi on March 03, 2013, 23:35:03 pm
What if they weren't a planned team and they had just gotten into the same patrol cruiser, then you happened to be shooting nearby so they all suspected you? Again, that is not a problem as they don't have the power to unsuspect you either.

Do you have any evidence of ramming at the PnS or is that the only evidence you have?
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Mario, Jimbo and Ricardo Johnson.
Post by: McScrooge on March 04, 2013, 23:24:43 pm
Ramming happened too fast, I don't have screens of that.

They could have used the /r to request it. No need to cover their asses.
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Mario, Jimbo and Ricardo Johnson.
Post by: Sushi on March 05, 2013, 12:13:34 pm
Again, the unsuspection is not a part of their responsibility. Neither would have been an unintentional triple suspection (an officer capable of unsuspecting on scene can do it if they see it themselves, etc).

You also remember the rule of 'Abused? Then immediately surrender and request an invesgiation.' From suspection to death, I see a two minute timeframe that you could have surrendered. Please tell me what happened in those two minutes.

Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Mario, Jimbo and Ricardo Johnson.
Post by: McScrooge on March 05, 2013, 21:12:03 pm
I had to run as officers these days do not have the knowledge of using /m1, 2, 3, before shooting.

I don't think that matters for this report.
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Mario, Jimbo and Ricardo Johnson.
Post by: Sushi on March 07, 2013, 12:19:01 pm
If you were abused though, why did you not immediately /gu and request an investigation? As there seems there was time to do so.

I will review all statements to see whether I can get a clearer image on what happened, since there is no visible evidence for me to review.
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Mario, Jimbo and Ricardo Johnson.
Post by: McScrooge on March 07, 2013, 20:03:23 pm
If I would have given up they would just re-suspect me and there was no chance for me to run anymore.

Just one officer gave his statement here, kind suspicious in my eyes.
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Mario, Jimbo and Ricardo Johnson.
Post by: McScrooge on March 17, 2013, 11:36:35 am
Ten days passed.
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Mario, Jimbo and Ricardo Johnson.
Post by: Mario. on March 17, 2013, 13:29:21 pm
First why you rammed us and we start shooting becouse you got car near you and you gonna get it and run.Second next time /gu or /hail 1 and third you speed.
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Mario, Jimbo and Ricardo Johnson.
Post by: Plam Knight on April 07, 2013, 15:25:49 pm
Reporters of reports like these deserve to be kicked out from the forums.

First the suspection as already explained to you 5000 times can be absolutely random. Not everything in the world is conspiracy against you and we don't "cover" anyone's ass. You don't trust SAPD's Command judgement, then why did you came here ?

Second you clearly had chance to give up and request investigation for your crimes and then if they refused, atleast you would have a stable report. You didn't do so, technically from there on you have no right to complain.

Come to us with the same attitude again and I promise you that you won't be capable to make any more reports.

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