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GTA: San Andreas => SA:MP Complaints Desk => SAPD Information Center => [SA:MP] Closed Complaints => Topic started by: r_sobilo on April 11, 2014, 18:05:40 pm

Title: Dont know the Sgts name
Post by: r_sobilo on April 11, 2014, 18:05:40 pm





b]Directed to:[/b] SAPD authority.

Name: Rich Sobilo

Report against:
OFFICER'S NAME - REGULATIONS BREACHED
Misuse of power (extortion, unlawful arrests, failing to provide an investigation etc)
-Having a bad attitude
Description of events:
SHORT EXPLANATION OF WHAT HAPPENED
It is sad that your Sgt (don't remember is in-game name)  think they are above everyone! Sadly one made the poor choices and did some things! I made a statement, and was told not to! However. I live in America I not only have FREEDOM of SPEECH, but i was taking by a Sgt my right to do so! Saying " Fire Department is a Joke" as to i made a call for a poss Heart Attack and was told he(FD) was responding, but then told me no cause there was a fire! Yea its a joke, because they accepted a call and then do something else, to me that's not true role-playing! An i have that strong feeling! Then i am personally attacked saying i have a bad attitude and i said no i don't, the again attacked! Then was cop banned, to which i told that  Sgt, he was an asshole, now freedom of speech gives me that right but then he calls me a idiot, to which i then took to heart. Why, because as he said "you will respect me" as he was the boss, it was a purely sicking and sad display of it, by him name calling as well did he ban himself no. Then Reporting me to an admin for flaming as we where having a conversation, to which at NO POINT did he ask me to stop! Thus using his rank as to get me in trouble for no reason, i truly invite the Chief of Police (Mike) to get the conversation from admins and reviewing the whole thing!  I am truly amazed that people act so childish in a video game! And how some get Rank Happy, and abuse it to people that are not a rank!
Like i said above, i owned my own clans and seen things first hand! As a person, what he did today was not right nor was any type of leadership!

Side from all this, there needs to be some type of IA that is not biased to handle this! I don't be leave in side picking, being FAIR is something that needs to be done!

So at this point am requesting this:
He be demoted for his poor behavior and acting as he was above everyone and Name calling
My application be fast tracked because of my poor experience with him (now locked without my side of the story, how is that fair?)

In lite of all this, i wish to have a public apology by him.

Possible Witnesses:
LIST

Evidence:
SCREENSHOTS (no image embedding) CHAT LOGS - INFORM OFFICER HE HAS BEEN REPORTED

Date:4/11/2014
Time:around 1130ish am EST

I state that the information provided in this report is 100 percent truthful and accurate, I have also read through the report to leader rules and followed all the correct procedure before submitting this report.

Signed,

Rich Sobilo
Title: Re: Dont know the Sgts name
Post by: Megamidget on April 11, 2014, 18:26:10 pm
In order for you to continue you must use the correct format otherwise the report will be closed. I Must also make the following points, 1) This is not a court you cant make requests and any punishments given out are at the discretion of the SAPD Command Team 2) Argonath is not america so dont confuse rights of one country with the rights you have here
Title: Re: Dont know the Sgts name
Post by: r_sobilo on April 11, 2014, 18:41:37 pm
Excuse me?
Title: Re: Dont know the Sgts name
Post by: Megamidget on April 11, 2014, 18:45:07 pm
Excuse me?

My Points are clear enough
Title: Re: Dont know the Sgts name
Post by: r_sobilo on April 11, 2014, 18:46:19 pm
i am changing in the format! But make no mistake, I have more rights then you think!
Title: Re: Dont know the Sgts name
Post by: PulseEffect on April 11, 2014, 18:47:42 pm
Saying " Fire Department is a Joke" as to i made a call for a poss Heart Attack and was told he(FD) was responding, but then told me no cause there was a fire! Yea its a joke, because they accepted a call and then do something else, to me that's not true role-playing!

Also note that is against the rules unless it's fully in roleplay terms.

-Battalion Chief Alex "Pulse" Treblin
Title: Re: Dont know the Sgts name
Post by: Andrew Banks on April 11, 2014, 18:48:49 pm
Hello I am Andrew Banks, one of the witnesses of the case.
You are flaming a group, and a sergeant on the radio, even after a warning, you continued ban mannering us, after we told you to stop.
Everything you did or what happened to you is yourself to blame and not Srgt. Milano
Title: Re: Dont know the Sgts name
Post by: r_sobilo on April 11, 2014, 18:52:19 pm
Saying " Fire Department is a Joke" as to i made a call for a poss Heart Attack and was told he(FD) was responding, but then told me no cause there was a fire! Yea its a joke, because they accepted a call and then do something else, to me that's not true role-playing!

Also note that is against the rules unless it's fully in roleplay terms.

-Battalion Chief Alex "Pulse" Treblin

Chief it was, the call was this
(myself) to FD- We have a medical at the Police HQ male on the floor poss heart attack

Now i asked several times before someone said they where coming.
I have a male laying on the ground in the main lobby of the police station that stated his chest hurt and the thinks he was having a heart attack.
I advised the person laying down i was an EMT, and that i contacted Fire/EMS.

It was role-playing, wasn't just a random call somewhere if that helps
Title: Re: Dont know the Sgts name
Post by: PulseEffect on April 11, 2014, 18:55:27 pm
Saying " Fire Department is a Joke" as to i made a call for a poss Heart Attack and was told he(FD) was responding, but then told me no cause there was a fire! Yea its a joke, because they accepted a call and then do something else, to me that's not true role-playing!

Also note that is against the rules unless it's fully in roleplay terms.

-Battalion Chief Alex "Pulse" Treblin

Chief it was, the call was this
(myself) to FD- We have a medical at the Police HQ male on the floor poss heart attack

Now i asked several times before someone said they where coming.
I have a male laying on the ground in the main lobby of the police station that stated his chest hurt and the thinks he was having a heart attack.
I advised the person laying down i was an EMT, and that i contacted Fire/EMS.

It was role-playing, wasn't just a random call somewhere if that helps

Firstly, if FD fails to respond, report those at our forums (http://www.arfd.argonathrpg.com/forum/index.php?action=forum) for negligence of duty.

Secondly, if you were an EMT, why did you not start treatment immediately?

Thirdly, when you say "Fire Department is a joke" and especially from this incident, it can be cited as flaming a group.
Title: Re: Dont know the Sgts name
Post by: Milano Alvarez on April 11, 2014, 18:56:51 pm
Hello, my name is Sergeant Milano Alvarez,

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It is sad that your Sgt (don't remember is in-game name)  think they are above everyone! Sadly one made the poor choices and did some things!
I am a Sergeant indeed, I do not think I am above everyone. My choices were based on your attitude today.

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I live in America I not only have FREEDOM of SPEECH, but i was taking by a Sgt my right to do so!
We are not in America, we are living in the United States of Argonath which uses this (http://arpd.argonathrpg.com/forum/index.php?topic=12540.0) constitution. You call me a asshole, and I cannot tell you have a bad attitude. I never told you are a idiot..

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" Fire Department is a Joke" as to i made a call for a poss Heart Attack and was told he(FD) was responding, but then told me no cause there was a fire!
This is the first insult to the fire department, you called them a joke, while they were fighting against a fire. No wonder they were not responding as all firemen were risking their lives to get a fire out.
You also told them this "[17:26:21] Emergency Radio - Police R_Sobilo(1): Whoa I asked for there help for a poss heart attack no f**king attuide, until now" [/font]

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An i have that strong feeling! Then i am personally attacked saying i have a bad attitude and i said no i don't, the again attacked!
I did not attack you, I told you that you would've to fix your attitude to get into the SAPD, because insulting the fireman, and calling me an 'asshole' is not really helping you to get in the SAPD.

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because as he said "you will respect me" as he was the boss
I did not tell you that as your boss, I told you that as a fellow collegue, you cannot approach a collegue and call him an asshole right?

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Then Reporting me to an admin for flaming as we where having a conversation, to which at NO POINT did he ask me to stop!
You called me an asshole, I brought it up to administrational members, they issued a warning because of "Ignoring administration, flaming".

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Thus using his rank as to get me in trouble for no reason
You brought yourself in trouble by insulting the firemen and myself, you simply do not act which such an attitude.

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He be demoted for his poor behavior and acting as he was above everyone and Name calling
I did not really broke any regulations, name the regulation I have broken please.

Thank you for reading,
Milano Alvarez
Title: Re: Dont know the Sgts name
Post by: r_sobilo on April 11, 2014, 18:57:54 pm
Saying " Fire Department is a Joke" as to i made a call for a poss Heart Attack and was told he(FD) was responding, but then told me no cause there was a fire! Yea its a joke, because they accepted a call and then do something else, to me that's not true role-playing!

Also note that is against the rules unless it's fully in roleplay terms.

-Battalion Chief Alex "Pulse" Treblin

Chief it was, the call was this
(myself) to FD- We have a medical at the Police HQ male on the floor poss heart attack

Now i asked several times before someone said they where coming.
I have a male laying on the ground in the main lobby of the police station that stated his chest hurt and the thinks he was having a heart attack.
I advised the person laying down i was an EMT, and that i contacted Fire/EMS.

It was role-playing, wasn't just a random call somewhere if that helps

Sir, First off, I told me i had a bad attitude after saying FD was a joke, to be that's not a bad attitude, at that point he attacked me and flamed me by telling me i had a bad attitude, after i was cop banned, you don't have a clue what was said since it was in pm! But thank you for your input! So i was warned for flaming in a PM from a mutual conversation.
Title: Re: Dont know the Sgts name
Post by: Megamidget on April 11, 2014, 18:59:26 pm
Ok now the format has been edited i will officially take this report on and investigate it. Expect a result this evening
Title: Re: Dont know the Sgts name
Post by: Milano Alvarez on April 11, 2014, 19:02:58 pm
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Sir, First off, I told me i had a bad attitude after saying FD was a joke, to be that's not a bad attitude, at that point he attacked me and flamed me by telling me i had a bad attitude, after i was cop banned, you don't have a clue what was said since it was in pm! But thank you for your input! So i was warned for flaming in a PM from a mutual conversation.

I attacked you with words? Not possible.[/font]
Title: Re: Dont know the Sgts name
Post by: Megamidget on April 11, 2014, 19:12:47 pm
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San Andreas Police Department
11/04/2014


STATEMENT IN REGARDS TO THE CLOSURE OF THIS REPORT

On the April 11th, 2014, 18:05PM a report was submitted by Rich Sobilo as a lawful citizen of the United States of Argonath.
Since then, an investigation has been conducted by the SAPD command staff member:
- Lieutenant J Treharne

The summary and conclusion of the report has now been decided and will be released to the public.

-- Sergeant Alvarez did not misuse his power by issuing a suspension, as the suspension was justified

-- In conclusion, this report will be closed and no further action will be taken regarding this case. Also the action taken against Mr Sobilo by SAPD Staff Command will stand

If the verdict of this report seems unfair to anyone, you can report this to the Chief Of Police via the ARPD Forum PM and we might reopen the case if your argument is valid enough.


Signed,
Lieutenant J Treharne
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