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Title: NON-RP Report - Alex Clark [M. Rosso]
Post by: DarkShadowBlade on June 03, 2014, 15:45:20 pm
Directed to: SAPD authority.

Name: DarkShadowBlade

Report against:
Alex Clark - Extremely Bad Attitude, Constant Misuse of C3, Radio Spam, and General Disrespect to Superiors and Officers alike. Causing havoc and endangering Civilians, including damaging both State and Private property.

Description of events:
I logged in and before I could even walk around I see this officer drive by and run over Officer Alexander Keyne flattening him and killing him. You can see he has a general disregard for the SAPD just here. Later on I see him driving around like he's in an infernus or something with no regard for public safety at all. He's later seen carsurfing on top of a Corleone car and starting out with some nonsense claims about being kidnapped when that was a pure lie as it was confirmed by others. How is carsurfing on top of a car mean you're kidnapped? After the supposed "suspects" were killed according to him when they indeed were never suspected which I'm going to suspect were just 2 civilians that were murdered by him. He tells me how he needs to "Find criminals to kill" point out the fact that this officer has no regard for public safety. I see him smash into cars all over the place today including civilian and state cars. I tell him to knock off the C3 and excessive use of Speed as he believes he is a "VIP" but this is not the case. There was no crime at any point when he was using C3 and in fact handed me backtalk on police radio on how I shouldn't park on the foot path when in fact I was legally parked awaiting Officer Abdul to begin a ridealong. Anything else that needs to be given into further detail will be given if requested and the 2 witnesses I've written down have more then seen this Officer's Bad Attitude through out the day today.

Possible Witnesses:
DamienT
Alexander_Keyne

Evidence:
Evidence (http://imgur.com/a/0E7tZ)

Proof of Officer being Reported (http://s27.postimg.org/ibuff4dg3/sa_mp_042.png)

Date: 3/6/2014
Time: 15:45 CET

I state that the information provided in this report is 100 percent truthful and accurate, I have also read through the report to leader rules and followed all the correct procedure before submitting this report.

Signed,

DarkShadowBlade
Title: Re: NON-RP Report - Alex Clark
Post by: Milano Alvarez on June 03, 2014, 16:12:19 pm
Afternoon, SSgt. Rosso here, i'll be handling your report. Officer A. Clark has 48 hours to report here, we will continue without him if he is not reporting here.

Kind regards,
SSgt. Rosso
Title: Re: NON-RP Report - Alex Clark [M. Rosso]
Post by: AlexClark on June 04, 2014, 17:39:24 pm
Thank you James for your input. To the respected SAPD staff, I will try to explain myself to the best of my ability.

First of all, i apologize to the SAPD for the bet i made with James. That was my fault and i realize that i was plain outright stupid for me to make such a bet. I recently fought James repeatedly on his Private server for training and i was stupid enough to accept his bet on the shootout. That is entirely my fault and i apologize again to all SAPD staff that i have clearly upset by indulging into such an act. This was definitely not me and i will not repeat a stupid mistake like that again.

I will, however, not take the blame for things that i did not do. The fact that i ran over Officer Alexander is a blatant lie, and I've got the proof. Luckily I've grown skeptic of officer Dark ever since our incident and when officer Alexander mysteriously died and seconds later, Officer dark screamed "What the hell U26" i knew something was up. I was getting getting in my car (The car parked opposite to the sultan in the picture below, with a open gate. Gate is open because i ran out with space and hence never closed the gate). That's when officer Alexander died in front of me (I myself don't want to accuse him, but i'll have to say he used /kill). The picture officer Dark took is fake, taken from an angle that makes it look like the car ran him over. And here is proof that the car never touched him:


(http://i62.tinypic.com/10r1jrb.png)

Analysis:
Officer dark's story :-
I ran officer Alexander over with my car. In the picture Officer Dark provided (http://i.imgur.com/2PKtjuq.png (http://i.imgur.com/2PKtjuq.png)) it is clear that i am running to my car, but what is even more interesting is that i am actually Inside the car's body. That is not possible unless you press g and get in the car. Hence it is evident that according to officer Dark i ran officer Alexander over then ran to my cruiser and sat as a passenger. The story itself checks out, if it weren't for the fact that there is actually a giant gap between the cruiser and Officer Alexander in the above picture.

Let's examine the situation for a bit (According to officer Dark's story). I ran over Officer Alexander, so i must have been driving the car when he died (Ghost cars don't run over officers, and the car is perfectly parked and hence it's impossible for me to set it in accelerated motion then jump out and also officer Alexander is in the back of the car, impossible for a car to without acceleration to survive a collision with Alexander and maintain enough speed to go all the way to the back). But if you look at Officer Dark's picture, i am also getting in my actual car. But the picture that i just provided clearly shows there is a giant gap between me and the car. Taking a look at the local chat of both pictures, it's clear that Officer Dark's picture was first in the timeline and mine was second.
This means that i have to run Officer Alexander over, run to my car and press g (Why the hell would i press g? I actually intended to press f and pressed g by mistake. I then got out and pressed f again to drive it). The fact that i first pressed g and then got out to press f can be proven by the pictures that both Dark and I provide. In Dark's picture the front door is closed and in mine the door is open, meaning that i have to actually get in the driver's seat then get out of the drivers seat and sprint away so the door doesn't close. Then i need to get back in the cruiser that supposedly ran over Officer Dark and drive the car away. It's impossible for me to move the dead body and the picture i provide clearly shows that the cruiser is in front of the dead body, hence i need to drive the car ahead but there is a cruiser in front of it. I don't know if you push cruisers often, but it ain't a super fast process.

Now here's the amazing part. After experimentation i found that the time for the dead body to disappear is approximately 10 seconds with an error compensation of 1. That means that i have 10 seconds to do everything above. Let's see if that's mathematically possible.

Given that i exit at the same time as Alexander's demise (Which is impossible. I need to exit at least 1 or 2 seconds later but that's irrelevant and the following observations can be proved without any need for me to add extra proof to my answer) i need about 2 seconds (+- 0.5) to reach my cruiser. Here's the boring part. I then need about 14 seconds +- 2 to actually get in the car, get out, press f and get out again (Again i am also leaving out the time that it takes from pressing g to getting in the car. That's extra 1-2 seconds but i won't count that). Now i need to run back to the car that i supposedly ran Alexander over with, which is about 2 (+-0.5) seconds. Then i need to push the car in front of me by at least a horizontal body length of a LSPD skin. After some more experimentation i found that it's at least 2 (+- 0.5) seconds. I then again need to run to the body to actually take my above picture (This is all assuming that officer Dark is telling the truth).

Let's add all that up. 2+14+2+2 = 20 seconds if i am superman and can do all the above described tasks perfectly (Which itself it impossible). If we add the extra time that i discounted in the parentheses it becomes 24 seconds (2+2+ 20 [From the equation above]). And this is if everything is absolutely perfect and nothing goes wrong at all which can cause any extra delay, which obviously isn't possible. I probably forgot some extra things here and there so the actual number is probably north of 30 seconds. As is evident, this is impossible. There is no way on earth i can comply with Officer Dark's story in 10 seconds.

Also there is another peculiar point. You have evidence of you clearly informing me of being reported, yet i don't remember it. Before i logged in today i opened my chatlog from my last game and managed to find your PM in there after all. Tracing the situation at the time i realized that i was AFK when you sent me the PM, i only learnt of this report from a friend. So i apologize for the late reply

I'm sorry if that dragged on for a bit longer than you anticipated. Sadly it is in my nature that whenever i see a lie i see a red flag, i spent the past 2 hours in-game getting all the calculations and repeating all my experiments till i was satisfied. I'm again very sorry for dragging this small post so far, and again apologize to whoever i just forced to read all of those calculations.
Title: Re: NON-RP Report - Alex Clark [M. Rosso]
Post by: AlexClark on June 04, 2014, 18:01:06 pm
Quote from: Alexander_Keyne on June 04, 2014, 17:48:40 pm
Quote from: AlexClark on June 04, 2014, 17:39:24 pm
Thank you James for your input. To the respected SAPD staff, I will try to explain myself to the best of my ability.

First of all, i apologize to the SAPD for the bet i made with James. That was my fault and i realize that i was plain outright stupid for me to make such a bet. I recently fought James repeatedly on his Private server for training and i was stupid enough to accept his bet on the shootout. That is entirely my fault and i apologize again to all SAPD staff that i have clearly upset by indulging into such an act. This was definitely not me and i will not repeat a stupid mistake like that again.

I will, however, not take the blame for things that i did not do. The fact that i ran over Officer Alexander is a blatant lie, and I've got the proof. Luckily I've grown skeptic of officer Dark ever since our incident and when officer Alexander mysteriously died and seconds later, Officer dark screamed "What the hell U26" i knew something was up. I was getting getting in my car (The car parked opposite to the sultan in the picture below, with a open gate. Gate is open because i ran out with space and hence never closed the gate). That's when officer Alexander died in front of me (I myself don't want to accuse him, but i'll have to say he used /kill). The picture officer Dark took is fake, taken from an angle that makes it look like the car ran him over. And here is proof that the car never touched him:


(http://i62.tinypic.com/10r1jrb.png)

Analysis:
Officer dark's story :-
I ran officer Alexander over with my car. In the picture Officer Dark provided (http://i.imgur.com/2PKtjuq.png (http://i.imgur.com/2PKtjuq.png)) it is clear that i am running to my car, but what is even more interesting is that i am actually Inside the car's body. That is not possible unless you press g and get in the car. Hence it is evident that according to officer Dark i ran officer Alexander over then ran to my cruiser and sat as a passenger. The story itself checks out, if it weren't for the fact that there is actually a giant gap between the cruiser and Officer Alexander in the above picture.

Let's examine the situation for a bit (According to officer Dark's story). I ran over Officer Alexander, so i must have been driving the car when he died (Ghost cars don't run over officers, and the car is perfectly parked and hence it's impossible for me to set it in accelerated motion then jump out and also officer Alexander is in the back of the car, impossible for a car to without acceleration to survive a collision with Alexander and maintain enough speed to go all the way to the back). But if you look at Officer Dark's picture, i am also getting in my actual car. But the picture that i just provided clearly shows there is a giant gap between me and the car. Taking a look at the local chat of both pictures, it's clear that Officer Dark's picture was first in the timeline and mine was second.
This means that i have to run Officer Alexander over, run to my car and press g (Why the hell would i press g? I actually intended to press f and pressed g by mistake. I then got out and pressed f again to drive it). The fact that i first pressed g and then got out to press f can be proven by the pictures that both Dark and I provide. In Dark's picture the front door is closed and in mine the door is open, meaning that i have to actually get in the driver's seat then get out of the drivers seat and sprint away so the door doesn't close. Then i need to get back in the cruiser that supposedly ran over Officer Dark and drive the car away. It's impossible for me to move the dead body and the picture i provide clearly shows that the cruiser is in front of the dead body, hence i need to drive the car ahead but there is a cruiser in front of it. I don't know if you push cruisers often, but it ain't a super fast process.

Now here's the amazing part. After experimentation i found that the time for the dead body to disappear is approximately 10 seconds with an error compensation of 1. That means that i have 10 seconds to do everything above. Let's see if that's mathematically possible.

Given that i exit at the same time as Alexander's demise (Which is impossible. I need to exit at least 1 or 2 seconds later but that's irrelevant and the following observations can be proved without any need for me to add extra proof to my answer) i need about 2 seconds (+- 0.5) to reach my cruiser. Here's the boring part. I then need about 14 seconds +- 2 to actually get in the car, get out, press f and get out again (Again i am also leaving out the time that it takes from pressing g to getting in the car. That's extra 1-2 seconds but i won't count that). Now i need to run back to the car that i supposedly ran Alexander over with, which is about 2 (+-0.5) seconds. Then i need to push the car in front of me by at least a horizontal body length of a LSPD skin. After some more experimentation i found that it's at least 2 (+- 0.5) seconds. I then again need to run to the body to actually take my above picture (This is all assuming that officer Dark is telling the truth).

Let's add all that up. 2+14+2+2 = 20 seconds if i am superman and can do all the above described tasks perfectly (Which itself it impossible). If we add the extra time that i discounted in the parentheses it becomes 24 seconds (2+2+ 20 [From the equation above]). And this is if everything is absolutely perfect and nothing goes wrong at all which can cause any extra delay, which obviously isn't possible. I probably forgot some extra things here and there so the actual number is probably north of 30 seconds. As is evident, this is impossible. There is no way on earth i can comply with Officer Dark's story in 10 seconds.

Also there is another peculiar point. You have evidence of you clearly informing me of being reported, yet i don't remember it. Before i logged in today i opened my chatlog from my last game and managed to find your PM in there after all. Tracing the situation at the time i realized that i was AFK when you sent me the PM, i only learnt of this report from a friend. So i apologize for the late reply

I'm sorry if that dragged on for a bit longer than you anticipated. Sadly it is in my nature that whenever i see a lie i see a red flag, i spent the past 2 hours in-game getting all the calculations and repeating all my experiments till i was satisfied. I'm again very sorry for dragging this small post so far, and again apologize to whoever i just forced to read all of those calculations.
Are you kidding?! /kill?! Don't even try to set up mysterious deaths.
You parked right over me while I was trying to enter the PD and got out like nothing happened! You were reported on the moment IG.

Feel free to explain the above picture and the below given analysis then.
Title: Re: NON-RP Report - Alex Clark [M. Rosso]
Post by: Milano Alvarez on June 04, 2014, 18:39:10 pm
Thank you for the response, Officer Clark. Your evidence is however invalid. Dead bodies stay visible when a person is AFK. Now, you also have /timestamp off. I will ask for a log check.

Kind regards,
SSgt. Rosso
Title: Re: NON-RP Report - Alex Clark [M. Rosso]
Post by: DarkShadowBlade on June 05, 2014, 01:01:56 am
Quote from: Darren on June 04, 2014, 15:18:50 pm
First of all Dark, this is too far. We both know you hate Alex but now you're trying to witchhunt him?

EXCUSE Me? I tried many times to correct this officer but his attitude was not helping at all, he even disrupted the ride along I was trying to give to a Probationary Officer as I had to come write this report due to his serious breakage of rules here. Now I don't care what bets you made, I don't care at all... It's not going to justify your actions at all. I don't witch hunt anyone, and like I said before (on accident but not this time) you got a problem with me? Open a new report against me.

Now onto the next things, you being kidnapped... Hmm, how is car surfing on top of a car mean kidnapping? You were trolling the whole day I was on so how am I supposed to take that seriously when all I saw was you car surfing? Now claiming I take "fake" pictures is probably going to strengthen your punishment as it shows you have no regard for Officers around you. You ever think to look from someone else's perspective? Now something here that is going to matter so much... Explain why you ran Alexander over in the First place? Explain why you throw your State Cruiser right there with no regard? Wait, you can't, The whole day you were smashing around like a maniac. Once Sgt. Milano collects the log check he will find how you smashed into a Civilian's Private car. Remember that? I didn't have any screenshots but you smashed into some taxi because you "thought" he was a suspect... The point is here is what you were doing with the Colreones though, I didn't see any suspections, just you flooding the radio and making my eyes hurt that I didn't want to look at it anymore because I thought I was going to get some seizure from watching it. Now, no suspections and claiming you shot and killed them? I wasn't there but you should know guns are last resort and not to kill someone who isn't a suspect, sure if you don't have time to suspect due to lives in danger you can go ahead but something important here is why you didn't suspect them as soon as you got kidnapped? Most likely, cause you group of people enjoy having a Joke-fest, and you like having it while you're on duty apparently. I doubt you were being kidnapped so I wasn't going to waste my time with someone driving around like he's on a race track, smashing into people like he's driving a tank, screaming all over the radio, and not providing clear answers other then your apparent joking with them. Now as for the Corleones, why did you even jump on top of their car in the first place?

- Sgt. Milano, It'd be helpful if the log check was expanded so we can see what the Corelones were doing with Officer Clark because I doubt it was a kidnapping, It was more of a joke they seemed to be doing.

Also, all I'm seeing you argue here is flattening Alexander Keyne, What is your excuse for driving around like a maniac, smashing into everyone, misusing C3, and causing havoc in our city to Officers and Citizens, including the damage of State and Privately owned cars? Explain there, because your argument that Alexander Keyne would misuse /kill is laughable.

Now after all this... Explain all the other charges on yourself, I'm not compiling "stupid" mistakes here, I'm compiling your blatant disrespect for the SAPD through all those things I've placed charges against you for. I tried so many times to tell you to stop the reckless driving and misuse of C3 but it didn't help apparently because you just dont care.
Title: Re: NON-RP Report - Alex Clark [M. Rosso]
Post by: Milano Alvarez on June 05, 2014, 15:15:11 pm
Afternoon,

DarkShadowBlade - According to Commissioner Fasi logchecks for these kinds of incidents are not given.
Alexander Keyne - Did you go AFK when you died?

Kind regards,
SSgt. Rosso
Title: Re: NON-RP Report - Alex Clark [M. Rosso]
Post by: DarkShadowBlade on June 05, 2014, 15:32:57 pm
Understood. Know that their is not much point of it as my screens shows what Clark was putting out on the radio.
Title: Re: NON-RP Report - Alex Clark [M. Rosso]
Post by: Milano Alvarez on June 05, 2014, 15:45:02 pm
Afternoon,

Alexander Keyne - Then why does that screenshot shows the timestamp next to your name?

Kind regards,
SSgt. Rosso
Title: Re: NON-RP Report - Alex Clark [M. Rosso]
Post by: Exterminator on June 06, 2014, 14:47:14 pm
Quote from: DarkShadowBlade on June 05, 2014, 15:32:57 pm
Understood. Know that their is not much point of it as my screens shows what Clark was putting out on the radio.

Funny thing is, i never denied those chatlogs. James managed to explain it before me and i know that you read that as you seem to have quoted his post. What i do deny is the false data that you seem to have piled onto the report, which has just been proven by Officer Alexander's confirmation that he was not AFK afterall.
Title: Re: NON-RP Report - Alex Clark [M. Rosso]
Post by: DarkShadowBlade on June 06, 2014, 17:13:37 pm
Quote from: Exterminator on June 06, 2014, 14:47:14 pm
What i do deny is the false data that you seem to have piled onto the report
Explain and provide evidence and a valid statement on how my data is false then just saying "That's false data you piled on," otherwise refrain from commenting on here. It seems that while I'm reading what people are writing, you aren't reading at all. Who was that statement directed to? Sgt. Milano. That was because CBF said "We don't do log checks for those sort of things." I commented saying that it didn't really matter because the screenshots I have taken show exactly what I needed them to show; Alex Clark's behavior on radio and his constant spam and screaming on it that made me feel like I was going to get a Seizure from it. The running over Alex Clark issue is only ONE issue in this major fiasco here. He may or may not have been AFK, but unlike his screenshots mine don't show anyone having the hourglass but this is not the point here. Alexander Keyne is a witness here and I don't understand how he admitting to not being AFK means I have false data? If anything it means James has false data, and Alexander is simply backing up mine now.

What the point is that purely from the screenshots I have submitted is that Alex Clark does not care when he is on cop duty as he treats it like a joke, as he causes havoc in the city and destroys Private and State property, and still claims he was a VIP because he had his sirens on (There were no need for sirens in the first place) I am providing statements here and evidence (including witnesses and screenshots). What are you providing? The redundant statement: That's false data." Next time you comment, please include evidence of how my evidence is false or stop with the bias claims.
Title: Re: NON-RP Report - Alex Clark [M. Rosso]
Post by: Milano Alvarez on June 06, 2014, 17:30:09 pm
People who are not official witnesses, reporter, or the reported officer, should definitely not reply here.
Title: Re: NON-RP Report - Alex Clark [M. Rosso]
Post by: AlexClark on June 06, 2014, 18:23:51 pm
Quote from: DarkShadowBlade on June 06, 2014, 17:13:37 pm
Quote from: Exterminator on June 06, 2014, 14:47:14 pm
What i do deny is the false data that you seem to have piled onto the report
Explain and provide evidence and a valid statement on how my data is false then just saying "That's false data you piled on," otherwise refrain from commenting on here. It seems that while I'm reading what people are writing, you aren't reading at all. Who was that statement directed to? Sgt. Milano. That was because CBF said "We don't do log checks for those sort of things." I commented saying that it didn't really matter because the screenshots I have taken show exactly what I needed them to show; Alex Clark's behavior on radio and his constant spam and screaming on it that made me feel like I was going to get a Seizure from it. The running over Alex Clark issue is only ONE issue in this major fiasco here. He may or may not have been AFK, but unlike his screenshots mine don't show anyone having the hourglass but this is not the point here. Alexander Keyne is a witness here and I don't understand how he admitting to not being AFK means I have false data? If anything it means James has false data, and Alexander is simply backing up mine now.

What the point is that purely from the screenshots I have submitted is that Alex Clark does not care when he is on cop duty as he treats it like a joke, as he causes havoc in the city and destroys Private and State property, and still claims he was a VIP because he had his sirens on (There were no need for sirens in the first place) I am providing statements here and evidence (including witnesses and screenshots). What are you providing? The redundant statement: That's false data." Next time you comment, please include evidence of how my evidence is false or stop with the bias claims.

I honestly believe that either you tanked an IQ test or scored very high on it. Given the fact that half your report is true and the other half is ingeniously crafted to frame me, i'd say it's the latter. I'm surprised you're not a ARUN diplomat already..

I can argue with you like a child over what i have already stated, but that'd be useless as you seem to be focused on pivoting the conversation rather than stating useful facts.

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Explain and provide evidence and a valid statement on how my data is false then just saying "That's false data you piled on," otherwise refrain from commenting on here.
http://arpd.argonathrpg.com/forum/index.php?topic=32668.msg303724#msg303724 (http://arpd.argonathrpg.com/forum/index.php?topic=32668.msg303724#msg303724)

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Who was that statement directed to? Sgt. Milano.
Is that supposed to mean that i'm not allowed to read/reply to something when you say it to someone else? If that was the case then this wouldn't be a public report forum, would it?

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The running over Alex Clark issue is only ONE issue in this major fiasco here. He may or may not have been AFK, but unlike his screenshots mine don't show anyone having the hourglass but this is not the point here.
That's a good thing. It means the above evidence isn't invalid but a mere technical glitch

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Alexander Keyne is a witness here and I don't understand how he admitting to not being AFK means I have false data? If anything it means James has false data, and Alexander is simply backing up mine now.
Just a curiosity question, how does this mean that James has false data? Also as for your question, http://arpd.argonathrpg.com/forum/index.php?topic=32668.msg303724#msg303724 (http://arpd.argonathrpg.com/forum/index.php?topic=32668.msg303724#msg303724)

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What the point is that purely from the screenshots I have submitted is that Alex Clark does not care when he is on cop duty as he treats it like a joke, as he causes havoc in the city and destroys Private and State property
Again, http://arpd.argonathrpg.com/forum/index.php?topic=32668.msg303724#msg303724 (http://arpd.argonathrpg.com/forum/index.php?topic=32668.msg303724#msg303724)

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I am providing statements here and evidence (including witnesses and screenshots). What are you providing? The redundant statement: That's false data." Next time you comment, please include evidence of how my evidence is false or stop with the bias claims.
Another curiosity question, based on the analysis of your last post that i have just provided, who is giving redundant statements? Also for your question, http://arpd.argonathrpg.com/forum/index.php?topic=32668.msg303724#msg303724 (http://arpd.argonathrpg.com/forum/index.php?topic=32668.msg303724#msg303724)

Note: exterminator was me. Small error on my part, i apologize for any confusion.
Title: Re: NON-RP Report - Alex Clark [M. Rosso]
Post by: DarkShadowBlade on June 07, 2014, 04:38:43 am
Quote from: AlexClark on June 06, 2014, 18:23:51 pm
I honestly believe that either you tanked an IQ test or scored very high on it. Given the fact that half your report is true and the other half is ingeniously crafted to frame me, i'd say it's the latter. I'm surprised you're not a ARUN diplomat already..
First of all, while this is off topic. IQ is supposed to measure intelligence so it says but what it really is, is Mental Age - Divided by - Your Biological Age - Multiplied by 100 -. These tests are random as the number can change and those who flash their scores are probably just people trying to act smart. And in my case, having an IQ of 142 is not something to go show off, it's a meaningless number that just states how you can define shapes in your head (spatial), word arrangements, and trick questions. I'm not trying to act smart here, and I don't know how being an ARUN Diplomat factors into any of this. Seems like you're trying to say that ARUN uses half-true half-false information to pass it of as true but really it only benefits them as they disguise the lie within the truth. That is general politics and it has always existed. I am not a politician and I have no need to go into a further discussion on it or continue on with what you're supposedly saying.

Quote from: DarkShadowBlade on June 06, 2014, 17:13:37 pm
Who was that statement directed to? Sgt. Milano.
Quote from: AlexClark on June 06, 2014, 18:23:51 pm
Is that supposed to mean that i'm not allowed to read/reply to something when you say it to someone else? If that was the case then this wouldn't be a public report forum, would it?
Think of it like this. I am talking to someone next to me after he informs me of a situation. Then you come in and say something completely different from what I was saying. If that doesn't make sense... I was speaking with Milano how the log check wasn't nessassry and then your comment which I couldn't understand since you said you never denied a log? CBF denied that log, not you so trying to connect that comment of you denying the log with what Milano said about CBF denying the log gave me a headache that I decided to stop trying to think about it and question what the comment was in the first place.

Quote from: DarkShadowBlade
The running over Alex Clark issue is only ONE issue in this major fiasco here. He may or may not have been AFK, but unlike his screenshots mine don't show anyone having the hourglass but this is not the point here.
Like I said. You provided quite the explanation about killing Alexander. But is this what this report is about? It's not.

Quote from: DarkShadowBlade
Alex Clark - Extremely Bad Attitude, Constant Misuse of C3, Radio Spam, and General Disrespect to Superiors and Officers alike. Causing havoc and endangering Civilians, including damaging both State and Private property.
This is. Ignore the running over Alexander Keyne issue. I'm not going to go here and find a way to prove you're correct there. Here is where I'm correct and the facts have been stated, as you quoting me, and responding with the same link is not going to solve anything as that post ONLY describes the running over Keyne issue. The issue is you are misusing sirens, driving like you're on a racetrack, spamming the radio with so much screaming that my eyes hurt and I had to turn off the radio and consider your whole situation with the corleones a joke (which it most likely wise). Along with causing havoc and endangering civilians and officers with your driving, which also includes smashing into other people's cars... I also forgot to mention... Take a look at the first post by Alexander Keyne and his screenshot, and what you said "I shoot him." From the situation that went on there I'm going to suspect that you went on and shot a cuffed suspect as you claim with your statement "I shoot him." He was to be transported to LVPD Jail but you ran off to prison (We don't put Murderers in Prison last I check, only kidnappers and serial killers, and when we have the people to RP the Prison).


For those that got confused reading all that here is the basic point - Forget about the running over Keyne; that's a minor issue. Explain and provide facts and valid evidence that you are not guilty of the following (what I reported you for):

Alex Clark - Extremely Bad Attitude, Constant Misuse of C3, Radio Spam, and General Disrespect to Superiors and Officers alike. Causing havoc and endangering Civilians, including damaging both State and Private property.
Title: Re: NON-RP Report - Alex Clark [M. Rosso]
Post by: Milano Alvarez on June 07, 2014, 12:33:07 pm
Afternoon,

Having a bet with other players on the server does NOT give you the rights to break regulations. I hope that's clear.

Kind regards,
Milano Rosso
Title: Re: NON-RP Report - Alex Clark [M. Rosso]
Post by: Milano Alvarez on June 08, 2014, 20:45:25 pm
Verdict to be reached soon..

Kind regards,
Milano Rosso
Title: Re: NON-RP Report - Alex Clark [M. Rosso]
Post by: AlexClark on June 11, 2014, 10:23:25 am
Quote from: Alexander_Keyne on June 09, 2014, 13:06:45 pm
Alex,blowing a plane info another one while on duty to revenge on witness won't really help you.
(http://s4.postimg.org/j4uti2kdp/sa_mp_370.png)

Are you honestly kidding me right now? I was flying in a straight takeoff when you suddenly drove your shamal right in front of me and blew up, Charlie can confirm that if need be. Back then i was like wtf, but it seems you and dark have not finished fabricating false evidence. You can expect a Counter Case once this report is finished for false defamation.
Title: Re: NON-RP Report - Alex Clark [M. Rosso]
Post by: DarkShadowBlade on June 11, 2014, 11:54:00 am
Quote from: AlexClark on June 11, 2014, 10:23:25 am
You can expect a Counter Case once this report is finished for false defamation.
Please go on and do so. I really want to see how my evidence is false. Please prove how my screenshots and others confirming your crap attitude along with your trollish behavior on the radio is justified. I really want to know. Put aside the running over Alexander Keyne issue and explain how the rest of the report is invalid. I haven't seen you proved ONE single piece of evidence that justifies that attitude, behavior, and actions other then "I made a bet." Ignore the running over Keyne. Just justify all your other actions instead of wasting space here.... Oh but wait, you can't, cause you haven't done so at all in this case; other then wasting space, claiming you have some bets on other servers, and doing some advanced mathematics to justify you running over keyne. I already said "Put it aside and explain everything else I'm reporting you for."

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Alex Clark - Extremely Bad Attitude, Constant Misuse of C3, Radio Spam, and General Disrespect to Superiors and Officers alike. Causing havoc and endangering Civilians, including damaging both State and Private property.
^ For your convince, it's right here. Explain all of that other then saying "That's false," "You're lying," or my favorite: "Stop fabricating false evidence." Explain, before Sgt. Alvarez reaches his conclusion, instead of saying I'm lying. That won't help at all.
Title: Re: NON-RP Report - Alex Clark [M. Rosso]
Post by: AlexClark on June 11, 2014, 20:56:13 pm
You know, i actually wrote quite a good reply to you. Sadly i lost my reply due to a power cut and then i realized that all the facts were presented already, your previous post contained as much new information as your last one but it seems you're going to force me to reply to you anyways.

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Please go on and do so.
Never asked for your permission but sure :)

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I really want to see how my evidence is false.
http://arpd.argonathrpg.com/forum/index.php?topic=32668.msg303724#msg303724 (http://arpd.argonathrpg.com/forum/index.php?topic=32668.msg303724#msg303724)

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Put aside the running over Alexander Keyne issue and explain how the rest of the report is invalid.
Why? It is in the running over Alexander issue where you were caught lying. Now you want me to just put it away? Other than some radio misbehaviour which i already accounted for, your whole report is false. For the rest of your report you only have your word against mine and, again, the fact that you are now caught lying in the report is clear evidence that your word means nothing.

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I haven't seen you proved ONE single piece of evidence that justifies that attitude, behavior, and actions other then "I made a bet."
http://arpd.argonathrpg.com/forum/index.php?topic=32668.msg303724#msg303724 (http://arpd.argonathrpg.com/forum/index.php?topic=32668.msg303724#msg303724)

Again, you can't just refuse to believe in evidence that i literally repeated for the third time now. The fact that you are caught lying is evidence that your word means nothing. Do you really have to make me repeat the same thing over and over again? ..

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Ignore the running over Keyne. Just justify all your other actions instead of wasting space here....
I'm very sorry, i didn't realize you paid for the hosting on this forums. This is a false report against me and i have full right to defend myself. Do not discount my posts as 'wasting space', it is you who is wasting space by repeating the same redundant message over and over and plain outright asking me to discount proof because you don't like it.

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other then wasting space, claiming you have some bets on other servers, and doing some advanced mathematics to justify you running over keyne. I already said "Put it aside and explain everything else I'm reporting you for."

Again, i'm dearly sorry for every penny me defending myself has cost you for hosting. I did not 'justify' running over keyne, i disproved that it ever happened and proved that you are lying. Sgt. Milano is handling this report so do not order me to put aside solid evidence of your lying just because you do not like it, it is childish and you should at least accept your fault now that it has been proven instead of the forum equivalent of screaming 10-3 10-3.

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^ For your convince, it's right here. Explain all of that other then saying "That's false," "You're lying," or my favorite: "Stop fabricating false evidence." Explain, before Sgt. Alvarez reaches his conclusion, instead of saying I'm lying. That won't help at all.
*convenience. Also i really can't decide whether i should laugh or feel sorry. You reported me with a huge load of false evidence and claimed your word against mine and i proved that your report contains false evidence. Now you suddenly say that you want to drop all charges that include you being caught lying, then you start screaming on the forums that i am calling you a liar without any proof while you reject the actual proof of your lies just because you don't like it. You should accept your faults instead of childishly biting my leg before you lose the dignity you have left.

But your childish behaviour over this report is starting to get on my nerves so i might as well provide an analysis of the charges that you do seem to be filing against me now and excluding the false charges of car killing alexander.

The only part true about your report is the fact that i misused /r which is something that i already apologized for and admitted to. I am willing to accept any punishment for it (If i have not been punished enough already. Just because of all the fake elements in this report several of my friends don't even bother to reply to me anymore before a conclusion is even drawn)



The rest of this post is dedicated to Mr. Keyne's reply above

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Never know a ''straight takeoff'' is done right towards a hangar with a witness on your case who have his plane parked and blow himself up (with a suicidal vest I guess) as soon as you take off in direction of GS9,the hangars,and most importantly his plane

Yep, pretty strange. If the pilot that calls that a straight takeoff works for Ancelotti Corp. he'd be outta the door in five minutes. Problem is, are you sure that you aren't just making that up?

Now, let's analyse this for a second. You're a witness to a false report filed against me. IRL there are often stories of people getting their enemies killed, by killing you i'd be acquitted of all charges, right? No? Oh wait yeah, this is a Non-RP report. Now let's analyze that, what does me killing you give me?
Well, it gives me absolutely nothing. Plus there is a huge risk that if i do suicide a plane into you i'd be caught and admin punished. So why would i be dumb enough to do it anyway?

Also, you claim that you were just sitting in front of your hangar in a giant shamal. Why on earth were you just standing there instead of taking off? Also you claim that i drove a huge shamal into you. Shamals are actually not that fast on the ground and it takes considerable acceleration to ram into another shamal and blow it up. Why didn't you spot the huge shamal headed straight for you and get out of the plane or try to get away from it?

On the other hand if you can prove that i just tried to randomly dm you and drive a plane into you, you'd prove that i'm a dmer. A dmer's word would then have less weight in the investigation.

Now out of the above two scenarios, which of the two do you think is more logical? The one where i ram into you providing me no benefit at all, or the one where you ram into me with a huge reward?
Title: Re: NON-RP Report - Alex Clark [M. Rosso]
Post by: DarkShadowBlade on June 12, 2014, 10:49:30 am
Ok look. There are witnesses here that saw your reckless driving through out the city. I can't justify myself knocking down a pole but realize this is because I'm moving the camera around and taking my hand off the keyboard to press F8, I'm not going to justify something here on that cause it's pointless. When I say "Put aside the Keyne Issue" I mean, stop talking about it because I'm sure everyone here sees the point. I just want to know why you're trolling around on duty. It's simple. But yet again instead of providing evidence or trying to justify your actions you're just typing and typing stuff I don't even feel like reading anymore. You have quite the talent for that you know? Reckless typing, includes smashing /r so much I feel like I'm going to pass out from looking at it. Nothing here is going to justify your attitude that day. By attitude I mean just trying to act like some new player and trolling around; sure this may not seem against the server rules, but your attitude and driving around the city like we're all playing a game of Demolition Derby has no justification here. I'm done typing here; and I'll just wait for Sgt. Alvarez to conclude this report or needs me to clarify something.
Title: Re: NON-RP Report - Alex Clark [M. Rosso]
Post by: Milano Alvarez on June 12, 2014, 18:07:08 pm
This is currently being analysed, in the mean time it is locked.
Title: Re: NON-RP Report - Alex Clark [M. Rosso]
Post by: Milano Alvarez on June 17, 2014, 21:19:33 pm
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San Andreas Police Department
17th of June, 2014


STATEMENT IN REGARDS TO THE CLOSURE OF THIS REPORT

On the 3rd of June, 2014, at 15:45 HOURS a report was submitted by DarkShadowBlade as a lawful citizen of the United States of Argonath.
Since then, an investigation has been conducted by the SAPD command staff member:
- Supervisory Sergeant Milano Rosso

The summary and conclusion of the report has now been decided and will be released to the public.

-- Officer Alex Clark has been spotted multiple times showing a unacceptable behaviour.
-- Officer Alex Clark has been acting better after this report, this will be taken into the final conclusion.
-- Officer Alex Clark has been cleared for the rest of the charges.

-- In conclusion, Officer Alex Clark will be suspended for a period of twenty-four (24) hours for his behaviour issues. Officer Clark is hereby cleared of the rest of the charges.

If the verdict of this report seems unfair to anyone, you can report this to a Deputy Chief via the ARPD Forum PM and we might reopen the case if your argument is valid enough.


Signed,
Supervisory Sergeant Milano Rosso
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