| (http://i62.tinypic.com/35aoigo.png) | The aim is to devise (or continue to uphold) a set of ranks for SWAT that are most suitable for the division. Each rank needs to carry some value and should be good achievements in their own right. There should be good prospects for promotions and career progression. We also look to ensure that these ranks are balanced with VCPD's FBI division. So... How is the current structure? Should any ranks be renamed? Do any ranks need to be added or removed? |
I may be able to help in design I guess.
I would suggest the following
SWAT Commander
SWAT 2nd Commander // VCPD Command Staff
SWAT Officer II
SWAT Officer I
SWAT Cadet
I would suggest the followingI am not a part of VCMP but this sounds awesome! My point of view :v:
SWAT Commander
SWAT 2nd Commander // VCPD Command Staff
SWAT Officer II
SWAT Officer I
SWAT Cadet
I'd say:
SWAT Comissioner
SWAT Commander
SWAT Operative
I'd say:
SWAT Comissioner
SWAT Commander
SWAT Operative
There should be good prospects for promotions and career progression.In this case, I think we should add an additional rank to make it 4:
We also look to ensure that these ranks are balanced with VCPD's FBI division.
The associate rank is a VCPD Officer who shows interest in SWAT. Associates have access to SWAT skin and armour, but not weapon gears.
I was also wondering about ingame perks for ARPD ranks. By my understanding, they are against Argonath Vision. Does SAMP has any of them?
From my own experience, having loads of ranks is no use in tactical units, so I would keep the number around four or five, just as it is now. But in my opinion, the ranks should be more similar to regular police ranks, for example:
SWAT Commander
SWAT Captain
SWAT Sergeant
SWAT Officer/Operative
I think it is slightly less "confusing" to meet 3 sergeants in the same squad than it is to meet 3 team leaders in one squad. Team leader sounds like the guy who holds the rank always, at any situation, leads the team. With those ranks, team leader "position" could be transferable. Meaning that when there are for example 1 sergeant and 2 operatives, the sergeant becomes the team leader, but when there is a captain in addition to those, he becomes the team leader and so on. The point is, team leader would be sort of dynamic rank, assigned usually to the highest ranked SWAT member present on the scene, and the other ranks would be static, meaning you keep them even outisde the operation.
I'd say:
SWAT Comissioner
SWAT Commander
SWAT Operative
Agreed, these sound much better than Team Leader.There should be good prospects for promotions and career progression.In this case, I think we should add an additional rank to make it 4:
We also look to ensure that these ranks are balanced with VCPD's FBI division.
SWAT Commissioner(After Spellcheck :D )
SWAT Commander
SWAT Operative
SWAT Associate - can also be called SWAT Recruit or SWAT Cadet.
The associate rank is a VCPD Officer who shows interest in SWAT. Associates have access to SWAT skin and armour, but not weapon gears.
I was also wondering about ingame perks for ARPD ranks. By my understanding, they are against Argonath Vision. Does SAMP has any of them?
I think it is slightly less "confusing" to meet 3 sergeants in the same squad than it is to meet 3 team leaders in one squad. Team leader sounds like the guy who holds the rank always, at any situation, leads the team. With those ranks, team leader "position" could be transferable. Meaning that when there are for example 1 sergeant and 2 operatives, the sergeant becomes the team leader, but when there is a captain in addition to those, he becomes the team leader and so on. The point is, team leader would be sort of dynamic rank, assigned usually to the highest ranked SWAT member present on the scene, and the other ranks would be static, meaning you keep them even outisde the operation.
Well, it's just an idea but shouldn't FBI have at least a rank for internal affairs or such ?
Ranks like Deputy Director, Associate Director, Chief of Staff etc. were dropped due to being surplus to requirements - and we ran the risk of having more ranks than people.
Well, it's just an idea but shouldn't FBI have at least a rank for internal affairs or such ?Ranks like Deputy Director, Associate Director, Chief of Staff etc. were dropped due to being surplus to requirements - and we ran the risk of having more ranks than people.
Well, it's just an idea but shouldn't FBI have at least a rank for internal affairs or such ?Ranks like Deputy Director, Associate Director, Chief of Staff etc. were dropped due to being surplus to requirements - and we ran the risk of having more ranks than people.
I don't mean all those ranks but maybe change one rank or add an extra rank that would be specialised in fight corruption not only on the FBI but in VCPD in general
I strongly disagree with having more than 3 SWAT ranks as we're not that active, plus that we have to fill them and I would love to keep VCPD's essence..
If the need arises for a new rank, just create one alongside a promotion. Then we can decide what each rank will be called.That is not really an option. The ranks are scripted ingame, so frequent changes is not a good idea.
SWAT Commander
SWAT Lieutenant
SWAT Operative
Though, as mentioned by Legend, it would be better that all departments have similar promotional ladder. That is, same number of ranks.
If the need arises for a new rank, just create one alongside a promotion. Then we can decide what each rank will be called.That is not really an option. The ranks are scripted ingame, so frequent changes is not a good idea.
1) Aesthetic Rank: This is the visual rank, things that people in the server can see.
Example: Leader, Chief, Trainee and so on...
These would merely be rank names which would not be preset. So, these ranks themselves would not be scripted. However, players would be able to use /c setrank id to give someone a rank called anything of their choice, meaning that whatever typed after /c setrank id would be the displayed rank.
So it could be anything from FDVC Firefighter to FBI God to Judge Fudge to Janitor etc. etc.
The purpose of this is to give flexibility. Rank names often change with time and some may never be used. So, giving players the option to set the rank names themselves would be most useful as it's then up to them to manage and update as their clans/groups/organisations change.
2) Permissions Rank: This would be something that directly gives scripted access to someone.
For example: Access to use SWAT skins, access to set ranks and so on.
A select few in each group would also require a permissions rank so that they can manage their rankings and give aesthetic ranks to themselves and others.
In the VCPD, these would include VCPD Captain, Deputy Chief, Chief, FBI Director, SWAT Commander and Academy Leader/Staff.
Also, the SWAT and FBI themselves would have permissions to use their skins.
These would be the only predefined ranks, while all else can be changed and modified as wished.
Looks like 3 will be our number. :):thumbsup:SWAT Commander
SWAT Lieutenant
SWAT Operative
This is quite good.
1) Aesthetic Rank: This is the visual rank, things that people in the server can see.This looks good. I recommend you post the Aesthetic Rank idea on public Ideas board, since it would also involve non-VCPD.
Example: Leader, Chief, Trainee and so on...
These would merely be rank names which would not be preset. So, these ranks themselves would not be scripted. However, players would be able to use /c setrank id to give someone a rank called anything of their choice, meaning that whatever typed after /c setrank id would be the displayed rank.
So it could be anything from FDVC Firefighter to FBI God to Judge Fudge to Janitor etc. etc.
The purpose of this is to give flexibility. Rank names often change with time and some may never be used. So, giving players the option to set the rank names themselves would be most useful as it's then up to them to manage and update as their clans/groups/organisations change.
2) Permissions Rank: This would be something that directly gives scripted access to someone.
For example: Access to use SWAT skins, access to set ranks and so on.
A select few in each group would also require a permissions rank so that they can manage their rankings and give aesthetic ranks to themselves and others.
In the VCPD, these would include VCPD Captain, Deputy Chief, Chief, FBI Director, SWAT Commander and Academy Leader/Staff.
Also, the SWAT and FBI themselves would have permissions to use their skins.
These would be the only predefined ranks, while all else can be changed and modified as wished.