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Title: [SAPD COMPLAINT] - Steve McGarett [John Collin]
Post by: Martin_Collins on January 12, 2016, 20:31:00 pm
Directed to: SAPD Command Staff

Name: Martin Collins

Report against:
Steve McGarret

Failure to provide an injured citizen BLS. This can be seen as negligence on duty which is stated in the constitution:
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XIII.VI: Any person who is in duty is required to provide necessary assistance if possible. Any person who will not accomplish their duties and who will not have decent reasons for not accomplishing those duties can see their rights to law enforcement revoked by this court or by their chiefs.

Furthermore the constitution has also been breached on another area by the officer by seizing a legal item without a warrant.
Failure to give back legal items is clearly against the constitution; as shown bellow only illegal items may be removed without a warrant:

Section II: The Constitution
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Ordinance XI: A law enforcer can search and seize any illegal material. The search can only be justified by reasonable doubts and reasons. The citizen must be informed before the search. If he feels the reason is not good enough, he may request a superior authority such as sworn officer, police chief, federal agent or government official, to come and take a decision. The decision can be contested in court if the decision taken cannot be explained by valid reasons.

Description of events:
While I was attempting to flee from the authorities, I crashed my vehicle, a 2-door white sportscar, against a pole at a gas station at Idlewood, Los Santos. A chasing police cruiser crashed on my back since it was driving quite close behind me and didn't had enough time and space to stop the vehicle before hitting mine. I left my vehicle and immediately put my hands up. I was surrounded by multiple officers in no-time and officer McGarett walked to my back, and cuffed me. I was fully cooperating and he started to search me. He found a pack of cigarettes with a few cigarettes left in it, and a lighter in it. He took it, but never returned it.

I was brought to the LSPD Station at Pershing Square, Los Santos. By the time we arrived there I already stated twice I needed medical attention due to the fact I crashed, explained in the paragraph above. I had serious head trauma, and I was bleeding heavily. When we arrived and I stated I needed medical assistance for the third time, officer McGarett told me he would arrange it. I trusted him, and we walked to the station's basement where the jails are located and where I was jailed. Officer McGarett left the basement while I was still bleeding heavily. The whole time I was in jail I didn't hear, nor see something from him or anyone else who could help me by providing my requested medical assistance. By the time I was released I immediately called my cousin, Mike S. Scarlatti, mentioned below as witness. He had to come to the LSPD Station to take care of my head trauma, instead of the emergency services who should have taken care of it instead. The time I was in jail I had unnecessary pain which I wouldn't wish anyone else going trough the same situation in the future.

Possible Witnesses:
SAPD Sergeant Steven Kolta (http://arpd.argonathrpg.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=4185)
Mike S. Scarlatti (http://arpd.argonathrpg.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=6549)

Evidence:
The officer this report is against must still have the items in his possession since he failed to return them.
SAPD Sergeant Steven Kolta is in possession of a photo he made from the bandaged head wound.

Date: 12, Januray, 2016
Time: ~16:50 CET

I state that the information provided in this report is 100 percent truthful and accurate, I have also read through the report to leader rules and followed all the correct procedure before submitting this report.

Signed,

Martin Collins
Title: Re: [SAPD COMPLAINT] - Steve McGarett
Post by: [Rstar]John on January 12, 2016, 22:27:14 pm
Greetings,

I am Supervisory Sergeant John Collin from the San Andreas Police Department and I will be handling your report.

- Inform Officer Steve McGarette that he has 48 hours to respond to this report, then post a screenshot of him being notified of the report with time and date stamps.
- Inform the possible witnesses.


Kind regards,
SAPD Supervisory Sergeant J.Collin


Title: Re: [SAPD COMPLAINT] - Steve McGarett
Post by: Spike on January 12, 2016, 23:06:55 pm
I, Mike S. Scarlatti am aware that I was stated as a witness for this report.
Title: Re: [SAPD COMPLAINT] - Steve McGarett
Post by: [Rstar]John on January 12, 2016, 23:11:37 pm
I, Mike S. Scarlatti am aware that I was stated as a witness for this report.
As a possible witness,Could you tell me what had happened?
Title: Re: [SAPD COMPLAINT] - Steve McGarett [John Collin]
Post by: Steven J on January 13, 2016, 00:02:36 am
From the Desk of Sergeant / Training Co-ordinator Steven Kolta

Good evening.

Thank you for filing this report as per our discussion earlier in person. As I'm sure you can understand, this kind of report needs to be analysed properly as there is more than one violation you are reporting.

Now to clarify, I am a partial witness to parts of the arrest and transportation of Mr Collins to Los Santos Police Department.
As I was on Field Supervisor Duty (ROBERT), an incident was occuring with an officer causing problems at Pershing Square with two citizens of our state.

What I can confirm however is the Cadet at no stage showed any remorse towards the complainant for any sort of injury while I was transporting as driver.
Prior to Mr Collins being placed in the back of our police cruiser, he was rightfully searched for anything that could harm Mr Collins and or others.

I believe there was a packet of cigarettes which had a lighter inside of it. This could be used to set himself on fire in custody, should Mr Collins state of mind be clinically depressed. During the transportation to the Police Department is when I came across the incident I was intending to attend and therefore resulting in separation of the cadet being in my supervision. It wasn't until I spoke to Mr Collins later I learned Mr Collins didn't have his possesions given back to him and hadn't received any medical attention.

Please direct any further questions to my office.

Yours,

Steven Kolta
SAPD Sergeant
SAPD Training Co-ordinator
Title: Re: [SAPD COMPLAINT] - Steve McGarett
Post by: Martin_Collins on January 13, 2016, 08:18:26 am
Thanks for picking up my report in such a short notice.

Inform Officer Steve McGarette that he has 48 hours to respond to this report, then post a screenshot of him being notified of the report with time and date stamps.
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Title: Re: [SAPD COMPLAINT] - Steve McGarett [John Collin]
Post by: Spike on January 13, 2016, 20:12:11 pm
I, Mike S. Scarlatti am aware that I was stated as a witness for this report.
As a possible witness,Could you tell me what had happened?

I was not a direct witness, however I was indeed called to the scene by Mr. Collins to provide him with Basic Life Support and first aid as he was injured. I can confirm that he did indeed suffer a head injury and when I arrived he had lost a considerable amount of blood. Fortunately I was able to stop the bleeding and as a result Mr. Collins survived.

((Ps: On an OOC note here not that's of my business but why is the head of the Field Operations Bureau handling this since it clearly states that it is directed to the SAPD Internal Affairs & Training Bureau? ))
Title: Re: [SAPD COMPLAINT] - Steve McGarett [John Collin]
Post by: Lionel Valdes on January 13, 2016, 20:16:50 pm
((Ps: On an OOC note here not that's of my business but why is the head of the Field Operations Bureau handling this since it clearly states that it is directed to the SAPD Internal Affairs & Training Bureau? ))

(( SAPD Internal Affairs is not a functional Division yet, nor is the Training Bureau meant by complaints although the reported officer is a cadet. However, the Training Bureau is the party to execute any action dictated by the conclusion of this report. For future reference, no formal complaint whatsoever should be directed to the Training Bureau. Same applies to Internal Affairs until further notice. ))
Title: Re: [SAPD COMPLAINT] - Steve McGarett
Post by: [Rstar]John on January 14, 2016, 10:40:58 am
Thanks for picking up my report in such a short notice.

Inform Officer Steve McGarette that he has 48 hours to respond to this report, then post a screenshot of him being notified of the report with time and date stamps.
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I would ask from you to notify Mr.Steve McGarette again, 48 hours are about to finish.
Title: Re: [SAPD COMPLAINT] - Steve McGarett [John Collin]
Post by: Martin_Collins on January 14, 2016, 10:48:20 am
Done.

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It looks like he isn't regulary checking his forum accounts:

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ARPD:
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Main forums:
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Title: Re: [SAPD COMPLAINT] - Steve McGarett [John Collin]
Post by: [Rstar]John on January 14, 2016, 10:58:36 am
Done.

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It looks like he isn't regulary checking his forum accounts:

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ARPD:
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Main forums:
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Alright. A decision will be made once the 48 hours are done (finished).
Title: Re: [SAPD COMPLAINT] - Steve McGarett [John Collin]
Post by: Deluca on January 14, 2016, 14:04:54 pm
I am replying to this report as a notice of being aware of the report. A statement will be given in the next reply.

(( I am writing this from my cell phone from work ))
Title: Re: [SAPD COMPLAINT] - Steve McGarett [John Collin]
Post by: [Rstar]John on January 14, 2016, 14:21:46 pm
I am replying to this report as a notice of being aware of the report. A statement will be given in the next reply.

(( I am writing this from my cell phone from work ))
Noted
I'll be await for your response.
Title: Re: [SAPD COMPLAINT] - Steve McGarett [John Collin]
Post by: Deluca on January 14, 2016, 16:57:32 pm
Hello.

(( First and foremost, I'd like to apologize for not being able to respond to the forum report. I've been caught up by situations at my real job and Argonath has been less prioritized. ))

I will explain the situation from my perspective. A pursuit was called in by another policing unit and I was requested to respond which I did. The suspect got out on their feet and I immediately moved in to apprehend the felon. I secured the felon by cuffing him and securing him by performing a full outer clothing search. I found a pack of cigarettes with a lighter in it and I examines the cigarettes to find out if they were manipulated by marijuana or any other sort of narcotic substances, which they were not. I was then honked at by my supervisor Steven Kolta which requested me to speed it up. The felon complained about his bleedings and I told him it'd be done as soon as the suspect had been booked. There were no critical bleeding. ((Not any which was stated in any roleplay commands through a third perspective))

I remember this being a busy day, Steven Kolta told me to quickly go jail the suspect and rendezvous with him quickly afterwards as we had a situation going on which I am not able to explain as I do frankly not remember what this situation was about. However, I am not able to question my superiors orders as it would have been a violation of the SAPD Handbook. When I jailed the suspect, I immediately went outside and requested EMS to LSPD so they could go inside LSPD to patch him up. I had to immediately join in with my supervisor Steven Kolta while doing this.

Your pack of cigarettes are in the LSPD, or was. At least that's where I put them. You're not allowed to keep weaponry, cigarettes, daggers or any other objects or such in jail. It could have been recovered when you left the LSPD. Accusing me of stealing from you and being corrupt is a very slim evidence to go on in order to get me served with a disciplinary action.


I have not violated the SAPD handbook or any other laws as I never refused to get you medical treatment as I called EMS, or confiscated your pack of cigarettes as they are in LSPD in the processing room. I do not know if they are still there, but if it really matters, I can give you five dollars for a pack of cigarettes.


P.S.

It's McGarrett. Two R and two T. Not McGarret or McGarett as you've stated in the complainment.
Title: Re: [SAPD COMPLAINT] - Steve McGarett [John Collin]
Post by: Martin_Collins on January 14, 2016, 17:04:46 pm
By the time I was with you, it was your responsibility to provide, or let someome else provide medical assistance. How can you make sure I was being bandaged while you, which you explained yourself, were in a hurry and needed to jail me and go on with something else. I find this extremely unprofessional.
Title: Re: [SAPD COMPLAINT] - Steve McGarett [John Collin]
Post by: Deluca on January 14, 2016, 17:12:09 pm
By the time I was with you, it was your responsibility to provide, or let someome else provide medical assistance. How can you make sure I was being bandaged while you, which you explained yourself, were in a hurry and needed to jail me and go on with something else. I find this extremely unprofessional.

Maybe you do. As far as I am concerned, what you find unprofessional is not of my concern as I am to follow my superior's orders and not question them. If it was an illegal order, from which I understand and see that it was not, then it is not a violation. If I was requested for another pursuit while medical personnel were available from EMS, then I got to do my job and they got to do theirs. Besides, you had no injuries which could lead to fatality. You were able to think, walk, talk, etc. My supervisor was as well aware of you stating that you had a few bruises, and when he told me to quickly process you to jail so we could respond to a situation, then we got to prioritize: What is more important? A or B? Clearly you as an A was not as important as the B.

((If you roleplayed anything fatal, then you should have refused to walk, talk and such to make it as realistic for your roleplay as possible, having an FBI agent to treat your "serious" wounds is representing yourself unclearly in a roleplay as you did not have serious injuries when I roleplayed with you, but you complained about a few scratches))
Title: Re: [SAPD COMPLAINT] - Steve McGarett [John Collin]
Post by: [Rstar]John on January 14, 2016, 17:46:14 pm
According to Mr.Mike who gave the said the BLS,He said that Mr.Collins lost serious amount of blood which make it a serious injury
Why didn't check the suspect if he needs Medical care before transporting him to the department?
Title: Re: [SAPD COMPLAINT] - Steve McGarett [John Collin]
Post by: Martin_Collins on January 14, 2016, 17:58:52 pm
As stated above, is it such a hard time to just do a simple check?
And about your post earlier, how was I informed where my items that were taken were being held?
Title: Re: [SAPD COMPLAINT] - Steve McGarett [John Collin]
Post by: [Rstar]John on January 14, 2016, 18:48:16 pm
As stated above, is it such a hard time to just do a simple check?
And about your post earlier, how was I informed where my items that were taken were being held?
Confiscated items is automatically stored inside the department,Once you get out the jail you can get them (no need to give it)...Also you cannot be inside the jail with those items...As it might be used to harm yourself or to be used incorrectly.
Title: Re: [SAPD COMPLAINT] - Steve McGarett [John Collin]
Post by: Martin_Collins on January 14, 2016, 19:11:29 pm
How was I informed about that?
Title: Re: [SAPD COMPLAINT] - Steve McGarett [John Collin]
Post by: [R*]Drix on January 14, 2016, 19:24:53 pm
How was I informed about that?
Its common sense, you walk up the reception desk and ask for your stuff.
Look in google for the definition off "confiscated".
Title: Re: [SAPD COMPLAINT] - Steve McGarett [John Collin]
Post by: Martin_Collins on January 14, 2016, 19:26:58 pm
How was I informed about that?
Its common sense, you walk up the reception desk and ask for your stuff.
Look in google for the definition off "confiscated".
You should understand that not every citizen in Los Santos is aware of all the standards of the SAPD.
Title: Re: [SAPD COMPLAINT] - Steve McGarett [John Collin]
Post by: [R*]Drix on January 14, 2016, 19:32:53 pm
You apparently  are.
Title: Re: [SAPD COMPLAINT] - Steve McGarett [John Collin]
Post by: [Rstar]John on January 14, 2016, 20:12:27 pm
According to Mr.Mike who gave the said the BLS,He said that Mr.Collins lost serious amount of blood which make it a serious injury
Why didn't check the suspect if he needs Medical care before transporting him to the department?
Cadet Steve I'll be await for your response about that question.
Title: Re: [SAPD COMPLAINT] - Steve McGarett [John Collin]
Post by: Deluca on January 14, 2016, 20:27:21 pm
(First reply didn't go through due to forum lag)

I did not do it because there were no heavily bleeding. ((He did not RP that but only complained in the roleplay about a few scratches)) I was as well told by my supervisor to hurry up the arrest.
Title: Re: [SAPD COMPLAINT] - Steve McGarett [John Collin]
Post by: Martin_Collins on January 14, 2016, 20:38:01 pm
((I RPed my head was bleeding, and that my shirt and the seat from the police cruiser were bloody.))
Title: Re: [SAPD COMPLAINT] - Steve McGarett [John Collin]
Post by: Steven J on January 14, 2016, 23:24:10 pm
From the Desk of Sergeant / Training Co-ordinator Steven Kolta

Good evening.

I am here to clarify a few details mentioned since my first official statement given into this report. The cadet has stipulated that I told him to hurry up with the arrest throughout the entire situation. This is not the case at all. I only wanted the cadet to hurry up getting our prisoner into the cruiser towards LSPD so I could deal with the complaint I had received as stated in my previous statement. My instructions were not repeated when I arrived at Pershing Sq to deal with the foresaid complaint I had received. My instructions were communicated through Teamspeak to stop messing around with the prisoner at GS9 so I can deal with this complaint at Pershing Sq. At no time since I arrived to deal with the said complaint did I instruct this cadet to hurry up with the prisoner processing.

Any further questions, don't hesitate to contact me.

Yours,


Steven Kolta
SAPD Sergeant
SAPD Training Co-ordinator

Title: Re: [SAPD COMPLAINT] - Steve McGarett [John Collin]
Post by: [Rstar]John on January 15, 2016, 10:49:01 am
From the Desk of Sergeant / Training Co-ordinator Steven Kolta

Good evening.

I am here to clarify a few details mentioned since my first official statement given into this report. The cadet has stipulated that I told him to hurry up with the arrest throughout the entire situation. This is not the case at all. I only wanted the cadet to hurry up getting our prisoner into the cruiser towards LSPD so I could deal with the complaint I had received as stated in my previous statement. My instructions were not repeated when I arrived at Pershing Sq to deal with the foresaid complaint I had received. My instructions were communicated through Teamspeak to stop messing around with the prisoner at GS9 so I can deal with this complaint at Pershing Sq. At no time since I arrived to deal with the said complaint did I instruct this cadet to hurry up with the prisoner processing.

Any further questions, don't hesitate to contact me.

Yours,


Steven Kolta
SAPD Sergeant
SAPD Training Co-ordinator

Thanks.
-Cadet Steve I would you to answer on that and that ((I RPed my head was bleeding, and that my shirt and the seat from the police cruiser were bloody.))
Title: Re: [SAPD COMPLAINT] - Steve McGarett [John Collin]
Post by: Deluca on January 15, 2016, 17:28:34 pm
From the Desk of Sergeant / Training Co-ordinator Steven Kolta

Good evening.

I am here to clarify a few details mentioned since my first official statement given into this report. The cadet has stipulated that I told him to hurry up with the arrest throughout the entire situation. This is not the case at all. I only wanted the cadet to hurry up getting our prisoner into the cruiser towards LSPD so I could deal with the complaint I had received as stated in my previous statement. My instructions were not repeated when I arrived at Pershing Sq to deal with the foresaid complaint I had received. My instructions were communicated through Teamspeak to stop messing around with the prisoner at GS9 so I can deal with this complaint at Pershing Sq. At no time since I arrived to deal with the said complaint did I instruct this cadet to hurry up with the prisoner processing.

Any further questions, don't hesitate to contact me.

Yours,


Steven Kolta
SAPD Sergeant
SAPD Training Co-ordinator

Thanks.
-Cadet Steve I would you to answer on that and that ((I RPed my head was bleeding, and that my shirt and the seat from the police cruiser were bloody.))

(( He did not roleplaying that his bleeding was heavily, I need to take orders from Steven no matter if they were related to the roleplay or not. So him presenting that he only told me to "stop messing around only once" is quite wrong, as I did not mess around, but was processing and securing the suspect. Now like I said, he did not RP bleeding heavily, he RPed that he was bleeding, but no severe bleedings. If this was done, then I believe Steven wouldn't have told me to "stop messing around with the suspect" or "hurry up and jail him so we can solve this other situation" either. Then he would probably have noticed that it was serious. So me showing negligence on duty is wrong to say as I was only following my superior's orders.

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4.Every officer must follow all the orders given to him by the SAPD Command Staff, without any questions or hesitation.
(If a SAPD officer feels the orders that were issued, were wrongful or out of line, he can either contact the command member that gave them out afterwards or he can contact their direct superior(CHAIN OF COMMAND). But must not ever question em directly on the field or interfere with them during situations!)

Steven Kolta was as well honking at me at the Gas Station 9 to hurry up, he honked once before he told me to speed it up. I am not blaming Steven, but the poor roleplay from the suspect failing to give details. I even reported in the radio for EMS. ))

Title: Re: [SAPD COMPLAINT] - Steve McGarett [John Collin]
Post by: [Rstar]John on January 15, 2016, 22:40:59 pm
From the Desk of Sergeant / Training Co-ordinator Steven Kolta

Good evening.
 This is not the case at all. I only wanted the cadet to hurry up getting our prisoner into the cruiser towards LSPD so I could deal with the complaint I had received as stated in my previous statement. My instructions were not repeated when I arrived at Pershing Sq to deal with the foresaid complaint I had received. My instructions were communicated through Teamspeak to stop messing around with the prisoner at GS9 so I can deal with this complaint at Pershing Sq. At no time since I arrived to deal with the said complaint did I instruct this cadet to hurry up with the prisoner processing.

Any further questions, don't hesitate to contact me.

Yours,


Steven Kolta
SAPD Sergeant
SAPD Training Co-ordinator
He said that he told you to hurry up "Getting the suspect inside the cruiser".
Title: Re: [SAPD COMPLAINT] - Steve McGarett [John Collin]
Post by: [Rstar]John on January 15, 2016, 22:43:19 pm
Also,The case is not "Bleeding heavily"...He was bleeding which is no matter heavily or not,it's your responsibility to provide medical assistance once the civilian in custody.
Title: Re: [SAPD COMPLAINT] - Steve McGarett [John Collin]
Post by: [Rstar]John on January 15, 2016, 23:37:02 pm
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San Andreas Police Department
16/01/2016


STATEMENT IN REGARDS TO THE CLOSURE OF THIS REPORT

On the January the 12th  2016, at 20:31CET a report was submitted by Martin Collins as a lawful citizen of the United States of Argonath.
Since then, an investigation has been conducted by the SAPD command staff member:
- John Collin

The summary and conclusion of the report has now been decided and will be released to the public.

-- As far as the allegation of the unlawful confiscation of personal items goes, the measures taken were purely to protect the interests of both parties, therefore it cannot be in violation of the constitution. A clarification from the court's end would be needed to prevent such cases in the future.
-- For the second allegation of negligence of duty, it is clear that the Cadet's intentions are taken out of context. It is apparent that a misunderstanding ignited this confusion. In addition, Emergency Medical Services were contacted. However, as it is a misunderstanding, the Cadet cannot be held accountable fully, due to the factor of inexperience. Therefore, a heads-up will be given to prevent such cases.

-- In conclusion,Cadet Steven McGarrett found not guilty as he still with cadet phase and hereby the case is closed.

If the verdict of this report seems unfair to anyone, you can report this to Police Chief via the ARPD Forum PM and we might reopen the case if your argument is valid enough.


Signed,
Supervisory Sergeant J.Collin
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