Argonath RPG Police Department
GTA: Vice City => VC:MP Department => Topic started by: danigold on April 14, 2018, 23:18:29 pm
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I'm sure you guys have noticed that recently sessions aren't being given very frequently, and applications are being processes slower than before.
The reason is because the academy has underwent a change recently that made it so instructors need to be certified, and only recently the process on becoming an instructor has been finished.
This change has been made to ensure the sessions given are of the required quality, and you all will learn as best as possible.
Hopefully by next weekend we can have at least 1 instructor certified to start rolling the sessions!
Thank you very much for your patience, and sorry for the inconvenience.
Signed,
Deputy Chief DaniGold
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Interested!
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Interested!
Good luck!
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Interested!
Accepted :kiss:
Good luck ;)
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Interested!
Accepted :kiss:
Good luck ;)
Interested!
Good luck!
Thank you guys for the good wishes!
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Deputy Chief DaniGold,
I would like to speak out about something that has been a bit of a concern lately. The activity by a number of cadets has been outstanding but have been unable to progress in the Academy. This isn't their fault though as you mentioned before there is a lack of Instructors who are willing to give sessions. Sevrin is on reported leave, while other instructors Jimmy and Smaug have not shown much activity themselves in the past weeks.
The cadets have voiced their frustrations ingame and patience is running out. luchgox/mystic was one of the best officers we had but he became inpatient waiting for an Instructor. It lead to himself committing crimes resulting in his discharge. He told me and other cadets this ingame. I personally feel his discharge was harsh but that's not up to me I suppose. I along with Nahian, radon, and killer all feel that mystic should be given another chance and also feel that more needs to be done with the academy so that cadets are not left waiting weeks for sessions.
Thanks.
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Your so called 'best officer' is not best anymore when he is committing crimes, he was given chance 3 times. The discharge won't be lifted. Nahian is waiting more than him but he is still cadet and doesn't commit crimes nor KillerX nor Radon. Time has said that he prefers the side which is beneficial the most, that is it.
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If any instructors refuse to give you or any other cadet sessions for now good reason. Tell me with proof and I’ll handle it myself.
As for mystik, he went turncoat not because of lack of patience, but for greed.
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Players are leaving VCPD for this reason, please do something.
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Players are leaving VCPD for this reason, please do something.
Agreed. I barely see more than 2-3 Cops on the server when there are over 12 Civilians. The ratio is tragedic.
We need more high-command and instructors or more activity from the current ones.
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Players are leaving VCPD for this reason, please do something.
Agreed. I barely see more than 2-3 Cops on the server when there are over 12 Civilians. The ratio is tragedic.
We need more high-command and instructors or more activity from the current ones.
In the past two years, I've taken leave for like 7-10 days max due to preparatory exams in my college. Now I've to be inactive for like 1 month & few days because my annual exams are starting from May 7th till May 21st. You cannot expect activity at least from me. Dani has a life, he's a university student & gets time on weekends & Fridays only, its life we cannot force anyone nor we've to, still being busy he has been handling the department after Huntsman's resignation. Jimmy has internet issues most of times, Smaug is also not that active.
The problem still stands still, how to avoid it? Currently there are 7 cadets, out of which 3-4 are active ones, 3 applicants, 2 of them are active. They need to build the environment in the game, I agree that they need a leading hand on them in the field then they'll perform the best, but unfortunately there is not. Let me tell you that we do not need a leadership all the time to teach us & lead us, you're the soldier you're the leader yourself, you've to maintain that in absence of your leader. You MUST work together as a team, not as a single cadet, do not mind obeying orders or giving orders to your fellow cadets, if there is something you think you can do it, then do it as a team. Wait for weekends, Dani will be able to give sessions & other Instructors too, till then its a humble rekuest from me to you that please do not lose hope in VCPD, you're the future of the department, be patient.
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We would sure do that. If we would ever be trained to. We can train and guide ourselves, but that won't be much effective. I respect the fact that you guys have a life too.
I didn't leave that 50k ARD per day for all this shit, I thought it'd be a better place. Time's proving me wrong. I'll still hold up for sometime although.
I am sorry to say this, but my patience is giving up. I can't face bunches of criminals alone for longer now.
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Supporting what sergeant sevrin said above. You must be patient during this time of hurdles, as sometimes life comes in all unexpected shapes and forms.
Smaug will be back in 2 days and will be available to give sessions in full throttle.
As for being alone, while it may definitely be hard at times, you must overcome that. If you would check up on the depratment’s history of staff/activity, every now and then there’s a short draught period. Hopefully soon we will go through the last of those, and you can help if you stick with us.
Again, we are very sorry for the inconvenience, but at times there is nothing we can do despite our best efforts.
P.s. while I am only active during weekends only it’s not cause of uni. I’m not even in uni, but something else rather personal.
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Our department has a very good thing which is helping each other, obeying orders simply "Team" and I hope we'll help civilians with our role of doing help. I'll wait to join VCPD.
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I am on reported leave my self due to internet problems
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We would sure do that. If we would ever be trained to. We can train and guide ourselves, but that won't be much effective. I respect the fact that you guys have a life too.
I didn't leave that 50k ARD per day for all this shit, I thought it'd be a better place. Time's proving me wrong. I'll still hold up for sometime although.
I am sorry to say this, but my patience is giving up. I can't face bunches of criminals alone for longer now.
2017's start, there was a time where Salmonella & hype were busy in RL & inactive, Reaper, Roy_Earle aka krystianoo, NakedSnake 3 of them were no longer in VCPD. I was a Snr Officer & an Operative, I've faced that time of being alone totally 24/7 until players like xioa came back, then Huntsman's reinstatement. I faced it like for 2-3 months. I was sometimes failure, sometimes success but I didn't gave up.
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Deputy, the issue isn't so much that there is a drought of any kind. The two weeks I've been playing there's actually be a good number of cops ingame. The issue is that it's entirely made up of applicants like myself, Spiller, and Hazard and then the rest are VCPD cadets such as radon, Nahian, Sup, killer, and Oswald. I just named eight active police officers who are playing every day. The issue is the lack of VCPD personnel. A lack of instructors. Things are running too slowly within the command staff and that's a shame. All of us have VCPD's best interest at heart, but we want to prove that and it's difficult when you are all inactive. It's hard work and I believe we all enjoy it, but I feel we also want some recognition and gratitude as well.
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I second what Razor said, the lack of applicants or just freelance cops is not an issue, nor is their performance, the lack of VCPD personnel is the real issue.
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Look at it like a snowball effect. VCPD will start getting bigger slowly, and then it will be faster.
Not enough active personnel right now to create the other personnel.
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You guys are cadet or either applicants, it means you're the VCPDvs personnel right now. How many guys are in command staff? Just Dani & me in lower command on reported leave. C'mon, you have to do things on your own for a while, you guys need to be patient.
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We both have the patience, we know you guys have a life too, we are just pointing out that the lack of instructors are the real issue because as Razor said there's no drought of any kind as currently there's a fair ammount of active players gladly waiting for them and also showing good performance like today.
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You still did not get me. Lack of instructors, both of thre officers we have got now are instructors, one of them will be back after 2 days & other one is having internet issues. What else we do to get more instructors??
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My suggestion is to take that frustration anc set it as a goal; be the change you wanna see and set your goal to aim on becoming an academy instructor.
Or just a good and active officer.
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Just because there are cops online, who are even applicants of VCPD, does not mean VCPD is not in a drought of it's own.
The members are on reported leave/otherwise unable to play during certain times of the week, which is understandable.
Just highly unfortunate that every leave happens to be stacked up, but that's life for you.
While you are applicants/cadets yourselves, you can still use the VCPD Academy material to your full advantage and helping newer players with the cop job too, possibly introducing them to the VCPD during this rather unfortunate time of inactivity.
During weekends tho' I'm fairly sure Dani will be giving sessions left and right, and with Smaug returning in 2 days things will be looking up rather quickly.
Don't give up just yet :cop:
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Just because there are cops online, who are even applicants of VCPD, does not mean VCPD is not in a drought of it's own.
The members are on reported leave/otherwise unable to play during certain times of the week, which is understandable.
Just highly unfortunate that every leave happens to be stacked up, but that's life for you.
While you are applicants/cadets yourselves, you can still use the VCPD Academy material to your full advantage and helping newer players with the cop job too, possibly introducing them to the VCPD during this rather unfortunate time of inactivity.
May give that a go.
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Understood. Let's just hope things will improve soon.
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So i stopped by this comment again, my sincere apologies by my behaviour back there, i was frustrated in the moment because this week there weren't instructors around, now after even reading this with a different point of view, i can perfectly understand everything said above, once again my sincere apologies if i made you guys have a little bad moment thanks to the signs of desperation i showed there, i also have to add that i definitely would like to set a new goal aiming to be another instructor to help there and as danigold said, be the change i want to see (after passing the academy and hopefully having sometime around with the senior officer rank), regards.
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This is what I feared the most when I resigned: that the department will start stagnating without me due to lack of active command staff, this is why I feel like I need to state my opinion here and clarify some issues.
The problem is that with my departure, the only command members left are Sevrin and DaniGold, and Smaug who is a Senior Officer. Given the current amount of Cadets, it's very difficult for them to manage the academy, especially seeing how Dani's and Sevrin's activity at the moment are limited due to real life commitments. Do keep in mind that this is temporary, however. So please, just be patient. A challenging police force is in everyone's interest.
You have to understand that the current situation allows those of you dedicated and competent enough to rise through the ranks faster, seeing how the current Academy Staff has a high demand for competent personal and has a lot of openings vacant, which is a good career prospect in the VCPD. So you will only win if you will remain patient and wait it out, become officer and apply for instructor (which, if passed, will result in immediate Senior Officer).
I have to applaud you guys for actually raising this issue and talking about it, though, because in the past things were dealt with by simply resigning and not letting the command know what's wrong. Seeing how someone mentioned Mystik/luchgox here - he is a relic from that era. His "resignation" has nothing to do with anything other than his indecision and greed. We all know it will happen sooner or later when we accepted him, but we were in a dire situation staff wise and did not have much to choose from.
Seeing the current situation has risen a discussion in the ARPD Command whether I should return or not. To be frank, I am rather disappointed that the department has grown to attached to me. I should have implemented mechanisms that ensured the department keeps functiong fluently if members of High Command are missing. I could return, but if I were to, I'd need your understanding. You have to understand that just as Dani, I am now an adult with real responsibilities such as work, studying, making a living and having to look after my health and wellbeing, so I would not be as active as I used to be before I resigned.
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I will most likely have my internet fixed on Monday, from that time i will spend my full time on VCPD. We apologise for our inactivity, but you must be patient for a little longer.
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Quoting Huntsman,
Yes it will be nice to have you back but you left for a reason, your studies. Even if you return it wont be much of a big difference.
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Quoting Huntsman,
Yes it will be nice to have you back but you left for a reason, your studies. Even if you return it wont be much of a big difference.
Summer is coming up. In a month I will be free as a bird
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Quoting Huntsman,
Yes it will be nice to have you back but you left for a reason, your studies. Even if you return it wont be much of a big difference.
Summer is coming up. In a month I will be free as a bird
Mate, if you feel you can return, the department would be benefited from it, even if it's a small benefit!
However, you resigned for reasons, and if you can't return, then that's OK. Things are important, mate.
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Although I don't really mind this issue, I have a few suggestions.
1. Make instructors to give sessions to as much cadets as possible at once. Such as cadet A has done till session 3 while another cadet B has completed session 1, so try to give session 4 to both of them.
2. Allow taking more than 1 session per day. If an instructor is on for 2 hours, and there isnt any great crime going on, allow cadets to take more than 1 sessions in that short time, if they wish.
This will cause officers to be made faster and will start the 'snowball effect' as Dani said.
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Although I don't really mind this issue, I have a few suggestions.
1. Make instructors to give sessions to as much cadets as possible at once. Such as cadet A has done till session 3 while another cadet B has completed session 1, so try to give session 4 to both of them.
2. Allow taking more than 1 session per day. If an instructor is on for 2 hours, and there isnt any great crime going on, allow cadets to take more than 1 sessions in that short time, if they wish.
This will cause officers to be made faster and will start the 'snowball effect' as Dani said.
+1
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I have a proposition that will allow those worth it to graduate in a matter of one day.
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Right.
My previous plan of allowing people who have spent more or less two weeks in the academy by now to take an officers exam has concluded. Out of five Cadets who have taken up on this opportunity, only one has passed. It is rather disappointing, seeing how all of you have been very vocal about the significantly slowed down academy process, yet you also slow it down by refusing to learn the material properly. You had plenty of time to read and familiarize yourself, and most of you failed on points that are enough to have simply read on the forums.
Furthermore, I'd like to remind Cadets that you should make use of the fact that we now have two people beside the High Command - Senior Officers Smaug and Jimmy, who are certified Academy Instructors, to issue sessions. I have been rather puzzled why has little to no progress regarding academy took place lately and I've been the only one issuing sessions, and received an answer that the Cadets themselves seem not to be too interested in receiving the sessions. Let me stress this: High Command has OTHER matters to tend to, we only get involved in the academy when it's absolutely necessary, otherwise we take care of the administrative side of the department. Which means you prioritize Senior Staff instructors and request sessions.
If the situation does not improve within the upcoming week regarding academy progression, activity will be massively reviewed and people unmotivated to progress will be removed from the academy.
Since my return, we've worked hard to provide all the possibilities for people to progress, yet all you did was complain, yet take no steps towards graduation whatsoever.
Other news:
Theoretical academy sessions no longer have the 24 hour restriction put in place. Meaning Session 1 and 2 can be taken one after another on the same day.
HOWEVER,
the restriction does remain for practical sessions, such as 3 and 4
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I was surprised to see radon and Nahian fail their tests, because both were doing great work day in day out. I suppose they just need to grasp the theory a bit more but from what I know in practise they are very good police officers. I fully believe both will pass the second time around. Good luck guys, study and smash the test :cheesy:
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I thought you ought to see this. Pass it on because I think it will touch alot of peoples heart. Especially cops.
Go to Oakland PD and click on "Respect the Police" Read the one from "Mom"