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Title: Regarding LVPD's Future
Post by: Chief J. Schappell on December 11, 2009, 08:58:51 am
Regarding LVPD's future, is it ever going to be opened?

Wasn't the issue before that there were not enough Captains? SFPD has two and the other PD's all have one. Why not transfer one to LVPD and open it? I don't see why this hasn't happened already to be honest...
Title: Re: Regarding LVPD's Future
Post by: Jcstodds on December 11, 2009, 11:20:00 am
Hasn't opened yet because the current PD's have not been organised completely yet, and still things in SAPD are to be developed.

There might be a LVPD Captain planned, but I don't think it is the highest priority at this time.
Title: Re: Regarding LVPD's Future
Post by: Gregersen on December 11, 2009, 12:18:41 pm
As far s I know, LVPD will not be openned.
I asked CBF like 3 weeks ago or 2, can't remember.
Title: Re: Regarding LVPD's Future
Post by: [Rstar]Vince on December 11, 2009, 12:55:01 pm
Adams was supposed to get LVPD, then he got fired from SWAT Commander and was removed as Captain..
Title: Re: Regarding LVPD's Future
Post by: Chief J. Schappell on December 11, 2009, 13:06:38 pm
This is f**king ridiculous! If they want to finalize things, why should the last PD wait? Why not develop it at the same rate? Besides, LV has NO coverage. We shouldn't have to go that far out of our way when SAPD has sufficient police forces to cover that area for us...
Title: Re: Regarding LVPD's Future
Post by: Jonny O'Sullivan on December 11, 2009, 16:10:18 pm
There is no rush to open LVPD, from what I last heard is that LVPD won't open until the other PDs are working fine. Plus the only activity that goes on in LV is at Bayside (which will not be covered by LVPD) and a few small things every now and then.
Title: Re: Regarding LVPD's Future
Post by: Jcstodds on December 11, 2009, 16:32:22 pm
  If moaning about going out of your way to get to LV because no official coverage - then just don't go. It can be criminal friendly zone. It will be more interesting either way. Anyone can patrol in LV if they want to.

Title: Re: Regarding LVPD's Future
Post by: Salmonella on December 11, 2009, 17:02:08 pm
I agree about other departements should be working perfect first and than maybe open a new PD. But like Jonny said : no need to rush..
Title: Re: Regarding LVPD's Future
Post by: Shawn Edwards on December 11, 2009, 17:42:25 pm
There is no rush to open LVPD, from what I last heard is that LVPD won't open until the other PDs are working fine. Plus the only activity that goes on in LV is at Bayside (which will not be covered by LVPD) and a few small things every now and then.

I completely agree
Title: Re: Regarding LVPD's Future
Post by: RoryAnstruther on December 11, 2009, 18:01:25 pm
Actually to prove a point here I'm going to step up patrols in Las Venturas, and assume the role as if I was in LVPD. See how it goes. Will post reports.
Title: Re: Regarding LVPD's Future
Post by: Chief J. Schappell on December 11, 2009, 23:40:32 pm
  If moaning about going out of your way to get to LV because no official coverage - then just don't go. It can be criminal friendly zone. It will be more interesting either way. Anyone can patrol in LV if they want to.
I don't. I request other officers that are not busy and are in service to respond to calls out there. When I'm online, there often is only myself and *maybe* one of Sgt. or above online, so if we are requested for something large, you can see why this is a problem. The sheer fact that it's a known, high-crime area without coverage is ridiculous...especially with SFPD already having two Captains. Running fine or not, that's a waste of good resources...
Title: Re: Regarding LVPD's Future
Post by: Gregersen on December 14, 2009, 12:21:59 pm
SFPD covers LV i think.
Title: Re: Regarding LVPD's Future
Post by: Jcstodds on December 14, 2009, 12:30:40 pm
Everyone covers LVPD at the minute :)
Title: Re: Regarding LVPD's Future
Post by: Nexxt on December 14, 2009, 18:52:26 pm
Bayside = DPD <3
Title: Re: Regarding LVPD's Future
Post by: Ed_Lane on December 15, 2009, 03:54:50 am
Bayside = DPD <3
:eek:

i though that was SFPD /me goes to look at the area map
Title: Re: Regarding LVPD's Future
Post by: Chief J. Schappell on December 15, 2009, 05:39:01 am
Bayside = DPD <3
:eek:

i though that was SFPD /me goes to look at the area map

It is, but technically speaking that's county area, and DPD is expected to cover all county areas...
Title: Re: Regarding LVPD's Future
Post by: Chief J. Schappell on December 15, 2009, 05:58:17 am
Note: Double-posted due to slight subject change.

Here is my proposal for LVPD. I personally think that waiting for other departments to catch up is ridiculous. There is heavy overpopulation causing many issues, and these same, overpopulated resources are much needed in other places, such as Las Venturas. This also solves many other issues, such as LSPD's large amount of Sergeants, and SFPD's extra Captain.

Proposal for staff of LVPD (Just examples and ideas):

Captain
[WS]Thomas_C

Lieutenant
TeaM_Wayne
[AV]Ben_Samiir

Sergeant
Malcom
[WS]Salmonella
[WS]Tovenaarke
[SACS]SKenney

Senior Officer
Chosen through applications and transfer requests, as well as Command Staff Assignments

Officer
Chosen through applications and transfer requests, as well as Command Staff Assignments
Title: Re: Regarding LVPD's Future
Post by: RoryAnstruther on December 15, 2009, 06:03:54 am
Ouch, damn. I suppose my patrol efforts in LVPD mean nothing to make your list even as a Sergeant, Sugar  :cry:
Title: Re: Regarding LVPD's Future
Post by: Chief J. Schappell on December 15, 2009, 06:05:45 am
Ouch, damn. I suppose my patrol efforts in LVPD mean nothing to make your list even as a Sergeant, Sugar  :cry:
We need you in LSPD! :cop:
Title: Re: Regarding LVPD's Future
Post by: Ed_Lane on December 15, 2009, 06:16:11 am
i would go there as officer since i am SACS:SRU i can patrol in LV and help with the surrounding area's


and if this gets set up and Ben comes we will have both high ranked SRU officers with the same dept as the buffalo's :D
Title: Re: Regarding LVPD's Future
Post by: Chief J. Schappell on December 15, 2009, 06:24:22 am
i would go there as officer since i am SACS:SRU i can patrol in LV and help with the surrounding area's


and if this gets set up and Ben comes we will have both high ranked SRU officers with the same dept as the buffalo's :D
It's not always about status or rank though. I'm proposing this so we have sufficient coverage. Even in the future if policies change, they can still be easily applied without issue.

After today, it has come to my attention that it is becoming a desperate issue. Today against 2 suspects...2 very good suspects...we chased them ALL over Las Venturas and back for nearly an hour. 1 died. 1 got away. No arrests made. We had dozens of LSPD, SFPD, and DPD officers in pursuit. We had countless roadblocks. Los Santos, the counties, and San Fierro were left nearly unpatrolled with the exception of about a dozen Freecops over ALL of the areas combined, and at most 3 or 4 officers/senior officers. This was during a normal, active day with more cops on than usual, and a light amount of criminals. Imagine how bad it'd be on a day the other way around. We should not have to reroute that far out of our way to assist in a city that has an unused PD.
Title: Re: Regarding LVPD's Future
Post by: Wayne on December 15, 2009, 06:54:04 am
Indeed Ben samiir would fit, he loves buffalo and high speed pursuits..
hmm, I like LV, perhaps i would fit

But it's not time to open LVPD yet, let departaments organize better.
Title: Re: Regarding LVPD's Future
Post by: Chief J. Schappell on December 15, 2009, 07:39:32 am
But it's not time to open LVPD yet, let departments organize better.
I so badly wish to know what everyone plans on doing yet. The departments are not going to change any further unless other policies are set into place from ALL of ARPD, and right now none seem to be needed badly enough or they'd already exist. It's ridiculous not to open it now. It solves many current issues and makes it easier on ALL captains, including the one I mentioned for LVPD, to better control their departments.
Title: Re: Regarding LVPD's Future
Post by: Nexxt on December 15, 2009, 14:25:11 pm
Bayside = DPD <3
:eek:

i though that was SFPD /me goes to look at the area map

It is, but technically speaking that's county area, and DPD is expected to cover all county areas...

It's not.
Bayside is Bone County and that's DPD =)
Title: Re: Regarding LVPD's Future
Post by: ElMartu on December 15, 2009, 16:08:40 pm
It's not.
Bayside is Bone County and that's DPD =)

Bayside is Tierra Robada. ;)
Title: Re: Regarding LVPD's Future
Post by: Blinky on December 15, 2009, 16:13:32 pm
I dont see why LV needs to be opened yet, we dont even have the current SFPD or LSPD in working order, + we have DPD in the mix aswell.
if anything should be done, Capt Jcctodds should be re-assigned with his whole DPD department and named LVPD.
then  SFPD will handle SF area + county,   LSPD will handle LS area + its countys and LVPd will handle its area + countys (bayside,ft carson, etc etc)

that should be what happens,  if anyone here wants to suggest we name more Capts or LTS and re-build up LVPd that be crazy right now.

and no we cant name current LTS to Capts or anything like that (me,matrix,wayne,bensamir,others would make good Capts but it be crazy to name us or anyone else for that matter)

only thing maybe would be to put Capt Kitsune in as LVPD Capt or something like that. but  really to re-do the and have to fill postions @ LVPD would be 2 much for us when  LSPD n  SFPD  needs to be worked out and fixed.
Title: Re: Regarding LVPD's Future
Post by: jemerson on December 15, 2009, 17:02:05 pm
if anything should be done, Capt Jcctodds should be re-assigned with his whole DPD department and named LVPD.
then  SFPD will handle SF area + county,   LSPD will handle LS area + its countys and LVPd will handle its area + countys (bayside,ft carson, etc etc)

To be honest, thats not a bad idea. I am even thinking these big departments can have smaller departments within them run by Sergeants or a Lt.
Title: Re: Regarding LVPD's Future
Post by: Blinky on December 15, 2009, 17:37:47 pm
i agree with my own statement, and jake issue is  there no reason we need to name a current LT to a CAPT spot just to fill LVPD, we need to get rid of DPD and make DPD into LVPD with all same people, as is whenever SF is empty, most SFPD officers go into countys or LS to patrol, so it doesnt really matter if DPD in affect, if LV is dead, there heading to LS or SF lol.
Title: Re: Regarding LVPD's Future
Post by: Jcstodds on December 15, 2009, 18:03:06 pm
  Get rid of DPD? Nooo!  :D  Well, LVPD was my first choice, and Fort Carson second. It makes more sense I suppose. LSPD takes Red County. SFPD takes Flint County and Whetstone. LVPD takes Bone County and Thierra Robada.

  Although this might be better in the long run, it would require quite a bit more work than simply putting someone in charge of LVPD.


Bayside is Tierra Robada. ;)

Currently Bayside is in SFPD Jurisdiction mainly, since DPD has such a giant patrol area (which surrounds SF). So it is covered by both DPD and SFPD.
Title: Re: Regarding LVPD's Future
Post by: JayL on December 15, 2009, 18:28:29 pm
Umm... What about DPD in charge of Red County, Angel Pine Sheriff in charge of Flint County, and El Quebrados along Fort Carson Sheriffs in charge of Bone County? I think that'd significantly reduce the underusage of these police stations.

The sheriff offices could be under DPD command, too.
Title: Re: Regarding LVPD's Future
Post by: Blinky on December 15, 2009, 18:49:24 pm
problem is everyone wants an LVPD staff in place,  i feel DPD staff is all transffered into LVPD and thus  DPD is eliminated and then basically this

LVPD - all areas of LV to tierra robada area / tunnels into bayside

SFPD - all areas of SF to bayside and down to flint county weed field/gs10

LSPD - all areas of LS to LV/LS bridges and LS/SF flint bridges and all areas boarder of bridges/water

then with the deadness of SF n LV at times, there would be enough staffing to cover all areas in question from ft carson to red county to angel pine to bayside and so on.

also we dont need to create any more command staff postions,
Title: Re: Regarding LVPD's Future
Post by: SKenney on December 15, 2009, 22:02:11 pm
Interesting

Very much so. But I don't want to be transfered to another department in the event that posistions open up. I would like to stay LSPD. Hell its the only place I patrol.   :cop:
Title: Re: Regarding LVPD's Future
Post by: Salmonella on December 16, 2009, 08:46:50 am
Turning DPD into LVPD? thats worwse in my opinion,

LVPD, LSPD, DPD and SFPD, but not DPD into LVPD, LVPD would earlier be fitting for something else, like overflows of sergeants, lt,s senior officers in all other PD's currently, to stabilize it a bit, sergeants and all these previously named ranks will be placed to LVPD in case of overflow.

Signed Sergeant Monella
Title: Re: Regarding LVPD's Future
Post by: Blinky on December 16, 2009, 17:20:30 pm
if LVPD were to be filled by other ranks, we then need to make sure there a fair and balanced picking process
Title: Re: Regarding LVPD's Future
Post by: Salmonella on December 16, 2009, 17:32:14 pm
Yes, but that is always motivating for our officers
Title: Re: Regarding LVPD's Future
Post by: Chief J. Schappell on December 18, 2009, 00:19:02 am
Bayside = DPD <3
:eek:

i though that was SFPD /me goes to look at the area map

It is, but technically speaking that's county area, and DPD is expected to cover all county areas...

It's not.
Bayside is Bone County and that's DPD =)
That's exactly what I said...

@Blinky: There is heavy overcrowding, which is a huge reason why the departments aren't working. Aside from that, there AREN'T any issues that we can fix. Even if people were removed due to quitting/retiring, corruption/being fired, etc., there is still no way that there would be enough people removed to solve that huge issue. That's why I keep suggesting this. It solves many of the problems of other departments, AND it provides Las Venturas with a working police department, which is much needed right now. We can't do much to solve these issues any other way.
Regarding the fair and balanced picking process, I understand that and I agree as well. That is why when I randomly chose those people for an example, I tried to create a balance between SACS/SASD/other group members, as well as their friends, and tried to get people that know the areas, and/or are active, etc. among many factors. Like I said though, it's just an example, but overall I truly believe it needs to be done. The staff needs to stop putting it off. There's not much else that can really be done right now. That is why things are continuing the way they are...
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