Argonath RPG Police Department
General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Pepper on December 13, 2010, 14:07:07 pm
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Right now, I think it's just pancher that's the chief. My proposal is that every dept. has their own ranks.
Ex:
LSPD(Making up names for ranks as I don't know who's in what position
Chief - Vince
Dept. Chief - Ben
Cpt - Kirby
Lt. - bob
Lt. - joe
Sgt. - Jimmy boy
Sr. Officer - Deodorant
Sr. Officer - Jim
Officer - Billy Bob
Officer - ect.
and then so on. and every dept. having their own ranknig ssystem, own chief, own stuff man.
/discuss. (Side note: I'm writing this before school so I kinda left out some parts, if I can remember what they were, I'll re-add them.
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I'm not sure about this kind of ranking system, but I'm on the edge now. I do agree that perhaps we may need a system reform? But that's for the LSPD Board.
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So..technically you just want every department to have a Chief?
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I think that's what his getting at. Since CBFasi is the head of the ARPD and Pancher is a Chief that is in control of SFPD, whilst Hank is the lead of the LVPD and Vince is the lead of the LSPD.
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The leader of each Department is referred as the 'Chief of Department', The Chief of Police being Pancher/Hank/Vince are there so if anything may go wrong, they will step in, such as globally handling all Departments and such.
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Cpt - Kirby
(http://i56.tinypic.com/etw21c.jpg)
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Cpt - Kirby
(http://i56.tinypic.com/etw21c.jpg)
Your posts are special, you always make my day by crazy pictures or comments. ;D
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Cpt - Kirby
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Nx-0gLWOl3o/Sag7pxSCsRI/AAAAAAAAA9k/mkv7xX0usIU/s400/ObamaPointing.jpg)
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Cpt - Kirby
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Nx-0gLWOl3o/Sag7pxSCsRI/AAAAAAAAA9k/mkv7xX0usIU/s400/ObamaPointing.jpg)
Looooooooooool..you make me Laugh Kirby :conf: :rofl:
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Sgt. - Jimmy boy
Boooo
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Right now, I think it's just pancher that's the chief. My proposal is that every dept. has their own ranks.
Ex:
LSPD(Making up names for ranks as I don't know who's in what position
Chief - Vince
Dept. Chief - Ben
Cpt - Kirby
Lt. - bob
Lt. - joe
Sgt. - Jimmy boy
Sr. Officer - Deodorant
Sr. Officer - Jim
Officer - Billy Bob
Officer - etc.
Ok, I can understand where you are going with this...but it is not needed. I do agree that ranks should be evened up, but maybe it should be doe by taking Chiefs out of departments, and saying that they have control over all the departments, not specifying one in particular. This would leave Captains/Lieutenants to run the police departments.
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Every department already has a 'Chief' so to speak. I run LSPD, Pancher runs SFPD, and Hank runs LVPD. The only department without one is DPD, which is run by a few guys to make up for it.
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I thought that was the Captains job...
To be honest, it might fix alot of confusion if you, Vince, were just bumped up to Chief and the departments were separated by ranks like the past, so each has an official Chief and below. Then they would be linked the same way they are now, plus you have CBFasi as an overall ARPD Leader to keep a check going on the Chiefs, just as they would do to him. This keeps everyone in a safe and watched position, which prevents corruption, rids confusion, and makes each department's work easier, all the while keeping them unified like they are right now. It also opens up the possibility for more promotions to deserving officers, since there would be more ranks to *eventually* fill.
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So, Vince is technically chief ??
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So, Vince is technically chief ??
To LSPD, yes. To SAPD, he's the guy that steps in if all Chiefs are unavailable...
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Captain Swig !!!! :rofl:
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Well with your suggestion, The SAPD structore will be separed, It mean A individual citys and not a global one (San andreas). The chiefs and highers ranks, are on all Higher citys and countrys. Then I dont see any point for get your suggestion to SAPD.
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Well with your suggestion, The SAPD structore will be separed, It mean A individual citys and not a global one (San andreas). The chiefs and highers ranks, are on all Higher citys and countrys. Then I dont see any point for get your suggestion to SAPD.
It would be exactly the same as it is now, just with one person being promoted and the Chiefs being the heads of the departments instead of Captains with Deputy Chiefs and Chiefs picking their favorites to support...
Captain Swig !!!! :rofl:
Not even in your dreams ;)
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Captain Swig !!!! :rofl:
Yeah. In your dreams. :)
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So, Vince is technically chief ??
Vince is the LSPD Chief and the SAPD Deputy Chief. So yes, he is a CHIEF.
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Vince is the LSPD Chief and the SAPD Deputy Chief. So yes, he is a CHIEF.
I remeber CBF was like HAGSJUDG when i called Vince a chief by mistake once.
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Vince is the LSPD Chief and the SAPD Deputy Chief. So yes, he is a CHIEF.
I remeber CBF was like HAGSJUDG when i called Vince a chief by mistake once.
Essentially he is though..
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A lot of Chief being said by Boozmas, but yes it's all true. Basically every department has a Chief right now, some due to their previous placements or some as a relief leader.
/me slides a rank slide with three chevrons onto his shoulders and sneaks away.
I think the rank structure is fine right now, people come and go all the time, although it may not seem like it. New people are always stepping up to fufill the job of those who have left. Think about Swig for instance, when DPDs Captain left he went from sergeant to lieutenant in one night. To my (tbh) quite restricted knowledge, his doing a fine job with Smey at DPD.
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So, Vince is technically chief ??
Vince is the LSPD Chief and the SAPD Deputy Chief. So yes, he is a CHIEF.
More like a Chef :cool:
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So, Vince is technically chief ??
Vince is the LSPD Chief and the SAPD Deputy Chief. So yes, he is a CHIEF.
More like a Chef :cool:
lol @ Deputy Chef. That implies he's Pancher's ***** xD
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Just because it says Deputy Chief, doesn't mean he is a chief.
They are not the same rank, so Vince isn't a chief!
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Just because it says Deputy Chief, doesn't mean he is a chief.
They are not the same rank, so Vince isn't a chief!
He plays the role of Chief in LSPD, but in SAPD he's a Deputy Chief, and technically a Deputy Chief is a Chief, just a "dumbed-down" version.
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You guys are hella arguing a lot if Vince is a Chief or not.. who cares? he's the most precious member we had with his stinky moustache!
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You guys are hella arguing a lot if Vince is a Chief or not.. who cares? he's the most precious member we had with his stinky moustache!
Until he tried to bite a prostitutes tongue off and got his mustache ripped off!
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To see it from high above. The Police Departments been State stuff, the State government
decides about their police Department (That explains the difference of codes in other STATES)
Therefore CBF's job is coordinate the coorparation between them in Country wide stuff and
changes.
As for San Andreas, as they have 3 cities and some smaller departments, they also have
their own team built. Responsible for whole State are Pancher, Hank and Vince. They are
the leaders of the San Andreas Police Departments. They coordinate the work between
the departments.
And at the end are the small departments with their workers which does lead and handle
the departments daily work. The leaders of it are always acting in order of the SAPD Chiefs.
Even if I am not much into, I at least understand the structure as it is more and more like
it is also in the most countries of the world, such like the USA.
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To see it from high above. The Police Departments been State stuff, the State government
decides about their police Department (That explains the difference of codes in other STATES)
Therefore CBF's job is coordinate the coorparation between them in Country wide stuff and
changes.
As for San Andreas, as they have 3 cities and some smaller departments, they also have
their own team built. Responsible for whole State are Pancher, Hank and Vince. They are
the leaders of the San Andreas Police Departments. They coordinate the work between
the departments.
And at the end are the small departments with their workers which does lead and handle
the departments daily work. The leaders of it are always acting in order of the SAPD Chiefs.
Even if I am not much into, I at least understand the structure as it is more and more like
it is also in the most countries of the world, such like the USA.
What translator did you use?
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What translator did you use?
German - Just woken up Tai (translate.google.com)
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Stop the mistaken thinking.. and mixing the ranks. There are no local police department ranks. All ranks are global SAPD ranks. Read. (http://arpd.argonathrpg.com/forum/index.php?topic=31.0) It wont be changed for long time.
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Stop the mistaken thinking.. and mixing the ranks. There are no local police department ranks. All ranks are global SAPD ranks. Read. (http://arpd.argonathrpg.com/forum/index.php?topic=31.0) It wont be changed for long time.
The system keeps changing. Can you blame the guy for not being sure? :P
On a serious note though, this is getting confusing. The forum ranks only got worse. We need to get this figured out because it's obviously creating alot of confusion for other users.
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Stop the mistaken thinking.. and mixing the ranks. There are no local police department ranks. All ranks are global SAPD ranks. Read. (http://arpd.argonathrpg.com/forum/index.php?topic=31.0) It wont be changed for long time.
The system keeps changing. Can you blame the guy for not being sure? :P
On a serious note though, this is getting confusing. The forum ranks only got worse. We need to get this figured out because it's obviously creating alot of confusion for other users.
The ranking system has not changed, I don't know where your getting this information.
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The ranking system seems to be exactly the same as when I joined the ARPD. The only thing different is that now some Chief's are having to step in and lead a department. Whereas it used to be the captains leading each department and of course the lieutenants.
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I'm referring to forum ranks, not IG ranks.
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I'm referring to forum ranks, not IG ranks.
What do forum ranks have to do with anything? Cadet, Officer, Senior Officer, Sergeant, Lieutenant, Captain, Deputy Chief, Chief. They haven't changed either, just the organization of them.
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Just because it says Deputy Chief, doesn't mean he is a chief.
They are not the same rank, so Vince isn't a chief!
He plays the role of Chief in LSPD, but in SAPD he's a Deputy Chief, and technically a Deputy Chief is a Chief, just a "dumbed-down" version.
Irrelevant what he does.
Technically, it is a different rank - Practically, he does the same thing.
Public Services deal with technically when it comes to ranks.
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What translator did you use?
German - Just woken up Tai (translate.google.com)
Now to japanese and back again!
From a high place, please see it. The police department, what country, state governments are
(That explains the difference between the codes of other countries) to decide on police department
Therefore, the work of the cerebral blood flow, in the entire country, is among those coordinates coorparation
Will change.
They seem to have the city] 3 San Andreas, and as several smaller departments, they also have
Built his own team. The overall responsibility of the state Pancher, and Vince is a hunk. They
San Andreas police department leaders. They work and coordination between
Department.
And what lead to the end, a small division of labor and handle
Daily work department. Their leaders are always acting in the order of SAPD Chiefs.
Even if I was not much, but more than that, I at least understand the structure
It is also most countries of the world such as the United States.
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I'm referring to forum ranks, not IG ranks.
What do forum ranks have to do with anything? Cadet, Officer, Senior Officer, Sergeant, Lieutenant, Captain, Deputy Chief, Chief. They haven't changed either, just the organization of them.
Lol you don't have access to the full list. Trust me, it's a mess in there. The admin panel scares me...
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I'm referring to forum ranks, not IG ranks.
What do forum ranks have to do with anything? Cadet, Officer, Senior Officer, Sergeant, Lieutenant, Captain, Deputy Chief, Chief. They haven't changed either, just the organization of them.
Lol you don't have access to the full list. Trust me, it's a mess in there. The admin panel scares me...
What are you talking about, I can see all the entire list of membergroups.
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I'm referring to forum ranks, not IG ranks.
What do forum ranks have to do with anything? Cadet, Officer, Senior Officer, Sergeant, Lieutenant, Captain, Deputy Chief, Chief. They haven't changed either, just the organization of them.
Lol you don't have access to the full list. Trust me, it's a mess in there. The admin panel scares me...
What are you talking about, I can see all the entire list of membergroups.
Your rank only allows you to see the ones you can set users to in their profiles. There's many, many more in the admin panel. It's a nightmare :P
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I'm referring to forum ranks, not IG ranks.
What do forum ranks have to do with anything? Cadet, Officer, Senior Officer, Sergeant, Lieutenant, Captain, Deputy Chief, Chief. They haven't changed either, just the organization of them.
Lol you don't have access to the full list. Trust me, it's a mess in there. The admin panel scares me...
What are you talking about, I can see all the entire list of membergroups.
Your rank only allows you to see the ones you can set users to in their profiles. There's many, many more in the admin panel. It's a nightmare :P
INCORRECT. Though I can only set 3 different membergroups, I can see all the existing membergroups.
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/me facepalms...
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/me facepalms...
umad?
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No. This is way off-topic...
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Hehe I think Boozman won that one :rofl:
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Jack i ask you only once, dont stick your nose into the SAPD Command business... and take care of your Miami Vice city town folk deparment. SAPD rank structure is good as it is.
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Miami Vice city town folk deparment
MVCTFD Officer Aksel :cool:
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Jack i ask you only once, dont stick your nose into the SAPD Command business... and take care of your Miami Vice city town folk deparment. SAPD rank structure is good as it is.
The discussion had nothing to do with SAPD-specific information, it was about all the PD's in general, so please don't provoke me. Flaming my department is also not appreciated. I am not trying to pick any fights here... ><
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Jack i ask you only once, dont stick your nose into the SAPD Command business... and take care of your Miami Vice city town folk deparment. SAPD rank structure is good as it is.
The discussion had nothing to do with SAPD-specific information, it was about all the PD's in general, so please don't provoke me. Flaming my department is also not appreciated. I am not trying to pick any fights here... ><
What the hell are you even talking about? Look at the first post, he's clearly talking about SAPD. Because last time I checked, Vice City doesn't have an LSPD.
And how in the f**king world is what Hank said even remotely a Provoke/Flame? Just because you waltzed into the position of "Vice City Chief" doesn't mean you have power over any one over here. You manage your 5 Officers and let Hank manage his 100+ Staff, Chief Schappell.
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I said the discussion, not the topic. It became something overall when we spoke about the forums.
Also, I walked into the conversation as a SAPD Officer. He assumed I was throwing rank around. Regardless of department size, that is no reason to be provoking me like that. That goes for you as well. I can't help that MTA:VC is less active than SA:MP, but that doesn't mean it's not work in itself.
@Hank: Let's just agree to disagree at this point. We obviously have different views, but now that I think about it, I'd rather not let it get in the way of our jobs. Maybe we could speak sometime privately and discuss things?
By the way Boozman, for the record, I didn't "waltz" into my position. I've been an ARPD officer in that server longer than you've known about Argonath. I have also been actively trying to get Ber to update VCPD for years, which is why I was promoted so quickly. If you're for some reason mad or jealous, then tell me, but stop acting like I was just given the rank.
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If you're for some reason mad or jealous, then tell me, but stop acting like I was just given the rank.
LOL
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I don't see why you're laughing. You obviously are upset over my rank for one reason or another. Anyway, I'm not going to take this any farther off-topic, so can we please get back to the discussion?
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I don't see why you're laughing. You obviously are upset over my rank for one reason or another. Anyway, I'm not going to take this any farther off-topic, so can we please get back to the discussion?
Yes, I'm upset, let me tell you. And yes, enough about the deserted city, let's talk about good 'ol San Andreas :cool:
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Once again, let's get back on topic. Stop provoking me.
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Once again, let's get back on topic. Stop provoking me.
You're the one who started the who Vice City thing, so why are you saying I'm provoking?
You brought the Vice City into the conversation, not us.
And why is ever response on damn near every topic provoking against you? Clearly you cannot take being wrong and call it provoking.
But hey, that's you. I could care less. But you were in fact the one who brought us off topic.
ON TOPIC: What's wrong with the ranks? I think the way it is is fine. Each department has a command structure, so essentially there is an LSPD Captain, LSPD Lieutenant, LVPD Lieutenant, etc. But I think Chief's for the entire SAPD works fine, that way there is one centralized rank (technically two) over the entire SAPD. Keeps things in order to be honest.
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Once again, let's get back on topic.
@The ranks: Again, I'm not talking about the actual IG ranks. I'm just talking about the forum ones. The ones that mirror the IG ones are fine. It's the misc ranks, as well as the repeating or bugged ranks, that bother me.
Edit: Was rereading the old posts. Just wanted to clarify what I meant since it seems that no one is clearly understanding what I meant.
I'm referring to forum ranks, not IG ranks.
What do forum ranks have to do with anything? Cadet, Officer, Senior Officer, Sergeant, Lieutenant, Captain, Deputy Chief, Chief. They haven't changed either, just the organization of them.
What I'm speaking of doesn't mean those ranks specifically. It means the other ones, as well as the organization of those ranks, that is causing the problems. Just as an example, prior to me fixing the VCPD ranks on the forum, I noticed that in order for ANY rank above Officer to see the VCPD boards, they had to have the VCPD Officer rank as a secondary rank. This was granting the wrong permissions, and making ranks dependent on each other, which is not how it should work. Later on, I discovered and fixed a bug with one of the SAPD ranks also being able to see the VCPD board for unknown reasons, but this only affected that rank specifically. What I'm trying to say is that the organization of these ranks is an issue. Recently, I've witnessed ranks being renamed from things like "SAPD Officer (SA:MP)" to "SAPD Officer", with a secondary rank of "SA:MP", back to "[SA:MP] SAPD Officer". There are also misc ranks for former groups and boards that are no longer used, not to mention undercover ranks which are not being allowed to be used because of the new "open view" policy of the boards between departments.
I've personally made suggestions to solve it, but the other command staff members are afraid it would close off some things between departments, which I've yet to see how if properly implemented, but that's just my opinion. I honestly would just like to see them be cleaned up. It is a bit out of control, and it has gotten to a point where user rights are also becoming slightly bugged due to the Chiefs' limited administration abilities on the forum. I have a new suggestion if anyone is willing to hear it, but again, I don't want to start anything that is going to anger anyone. The current IG ranks are fine, I see no issue with those. It's just the organization of the forum ranks that bothers me.
Second Edit: If someone from Command Staff would rather me make a new topic about this, let me know. It's somewhat relative to the topic, but after thinking about it, I don't want to spin things in the wrong direction if this topic is conflicting with the original post too much.
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It's somewhat relative to the topic, but after thinking about it, I don't want to spin things in the wrong direction if this topic is conflicting with the original post too much.
Now you're thinking.
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It's somewhat relative to the topic, but after thinking about it, I don't want to spin things in the wrong direction if this topic is conflicting with the original post too much.
Now you're thinking.
Was that really needed? Seriously...
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It's somewhat relative to the topic, but after thinking about it, I don't want to spin things in the wrong direction if this topic is conflicting with the original post too much.
Now you're thinking.
Was that really needed? Seriously...
You're right, I apologize.
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You did not make a comment as SAPD officer Jack.. because an SAPD officer doesnt have acces to the admin panel. And as i see the SAPD ranks are fine and organised, so stop provoking... "the sapd ranks are f**ked up". If you would really want to help on a problem, then send forum PM.. instead of getting attention as how cool administrator you are. However i asked you nicely to dont stick your nose into it.