Let's start off from the beginning then, there were 4 ARPD Officers on the ground when I landed, as well as Mr Bridges over here.i did not know that you shot him down, but i knew that you had your M4.
They storm into the building which contains the suspect, the suspect then exits, as he starts getting pepper sprayed by Jason without warning, I assume the other officers had ordered him to stop and surrender already as they were inside with him.
He then exited and entered the building roughly 4-5times attempting to not get shot in the process I assume.
I sprayed him with pepper spray the first few times he came out, I then took out my M4 as he was going to continue doing this (/enter and /exit abusing) all day long.
When he exited I gunned him down as he was trying to re-enter the building. The suspect was standing still as he was trying to re-enter the building.
As there were so many officers already on the scene, it was safe to assume at least one had told him to surrender by the time I shot him.
And from the start of your logs
[16:29:38] ***[9774] Padres.(8): Erm... < Witness can confirm that the suspect did not move
Padres was inside the building when I shot the suspect, please don't try twist things.
As you can see Padres doesn't know what happened to the suspect here;
[16:29:55] ***[9774] Padres.(8): He is jailed?
~Regards
Devin "MadBoi" Seville
pepper sprayed by Jason without warning, I assume the other officers had ordered him to stop and surrender already as they were inside with him.I sprayed him to stop him from moving just like you did (you don't have to issue a warning before using none-lethal force)
And from the start of your logs
[16:29:38] ***[9774] Padres.(8): Erm... < Witness can confirm that the suspect did not move
Padres was inside the building when I shot the suspect, please don't try twist things.
As you can see Padres doesn't know what happened to the suspect here;
[16:29:55] ***[9774] Padres.(8): He is jailed?
He then exited and entered the building roughly 4-5times attempting to not get shot in the process I assume.
I sprayed him with pepper spray the first few times he came out, I then took out my M4 as he was going to continue doing this (/enter and /exit abusing) all day long.
When he exited I gunned him down as he was trying to re-enter the building. The suspect was standing still as he was trying to re-enter the building.
As there were so many officers already on the scene, it was safe to assume at least one had told him to surrender by the time I shot him.
You say you "assumed" they issued warnings but never bothered to issue one yourself, nor did you bother to /report for the abuse. So basically, nothing that happened justifies your actions; you got impatient and to prevent this from happening all day long, you shot a suspect who was standing still - without issuing any warnings. Lethal force is the last resort of an officer and if you had the patients and weren't so trigger happy this problem never would have arisen in the first place...
Just one Sentence..You say you "assumed" they issued warnings but never bothered to issue one yourself, nor did you bother to /report for the abuse. So basically, nothing that happened justifies your actions; you got impatient and to prevent this from happening all day long, you shot a suspect who was standing still - without issuing any warnings. Lethal force is the last resort of an officer and if you had the patients and weren't so trigger happy this problem never would have arisen in the first place...
I assumed he had been given plenty warning when 4 ARPD Officers ran into the building with weapons blazing.
I shot him when he was standing still, yes, that's because he was entering and exiting, therefore he can't move in any case so of course he was standing still.
There would have been no outcome if I hadn't used lethal force as in using pepper spray on him entering and exiting will only go so far.
If he would have wanted to surrender, he had plenty chance to do so while entering and exiting the building multiple times.
Not to mention he ran from officers from near Angel Pine to Foster Valley. He had no intention to surrender.
When a suspect evades without stopping, do you carry on warning him or do you start to shoot?
If he/she shows no intention of surrendering via non-lethal methods, you shoot.Interesting...I read different things here...
If he/she shows no intention of surrendering via non-lethal methods, you shoot.
Beating a suspect with a batton whilst they are doing /enter and /exit is no option.
using /enter and /exit was abuse and you should have reported it, not killed a standing suspect, especially without any warnings...
using /enter and /exit was abuse and you should have reported it, not killed a standing suspect, especially without any warnings...
You could have reported him too, but you did not.
He was abusing the commands and would not have given up at any point, there was no need to waste administrators time to deal with someone that we could easily deal with ourselves.
And once again I say, he wasn't standing still, he was constantly entering and exiting the building, don't class that as standing still as that's still technically moving as he is still going in and out.
Any other evidence apart from theese chatlogs ?