Argonath RPG Police Department

GTA: San Andreas => SA:MP Complaints Desk => SAPD Information Center => [SA:MP] Closed Complaints => Topic started by: Petar. on March 05, 2013, 13:08:22 pm

Title: [ARPD Report] Huskar, Pingster
Post by: Petar. on March 05, 2013, 13:08:22 pm: Directed to: SAPD authority.
SAPD Officer Policy violators:[TCL]Huskar, Pingster

1. Officer Name - [TCL]Huskar, was riding with civilian who was aiming at other civilians with M4. His friend Pingster was acting LEO without being sued or warned
2. Officer's Department - As I know LSPD

a. Pictures..(http://i47.tinypic.com/2l8jjwk.png) (http://i47.tinypic.com/28j9kdk.png)
b. Other evidence..

Date: Day - Date.03.05.2013(05.03.2013)
Time: Around 12:30

Civillian(s) involved: /
Signed
Petar.
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Huskar, Pingster
Post by: Huskar on March 05, 2013, 13:10:01 pm: Firstly im ARPD Officer, not SAPD Officer
Secondly Pingster did not SHOOT anyone as it server rulebreak and i did not allow him to.
Yes he was shouting to surrender and etc.

That's all from me.

[TCL]Huskar.
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Huskar, Pingster
Post by: Petar. on March 05, 2013, 13:14:34 pm: Acting LEO is NOT allowed and it is suspectable, why didn't you warned him, he aimed with gun at other civilians, is that alright?
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Huskar, Pingster
Post by: Pingster on March 05, 2013, 13:15:53 pm: Husar had nothing to do with me shouting, and he did indeed tell me to stop, which I did. You don't need to suspect to stop a crime.

Also, as for the gun, I didn't aim it at civilians, that's slander, and no bullets were discharged at anyone.

Cheers.
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Huskar, Pingster
Post by: Huskar on March 05, 2013, 13:16:26 pm: Quote from: Petar. on March 05, 2013, 13:14:34 pm
Acting LEO is NOT allowed and it is suspectable, why didn't you warned him, he aimed with gun at other civilians, is that alright?

How you know i did not?
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Huskar, Pingster
Post by: Petar. on March 05, 2013, 13:19:29 pm: Quote from: James Kolta on March 05, 2013, 13:16:26 pm

How you know i did not?
You were reported to admins, as Trane told me you are handling it, whatever if he didn't stopped then there goes a /su for not complying or /su for acting LEO

Quote from: Pingster on March 05, 2013, 13:15:53 pm
Husar had nothing to do with me shouting, and he did indeed told me to stop, which I did. You don't need to suspect to stop a crime.

Also, as for the gun, I didn't aim it at civilians, that's slander, and no bullets were discharged at anyone.

You didn't stopped as you may see there passed around 5-10min after you were in idlewood

Aiming with gun is NOT allowed unless you are LEO
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Huskar, Pingster
Post by: Pingster on March 05, 2013, 13:25:45 pm: Being in a passenger seat with a gun is not equal to aiming, yo.

And since you spent most of the time typing up a report, not sure how can you tell whether or not I stopped imitating /m1.

Anyway, cheers, if someone takes a look in here, I'll be sure to respond, however, no intention to argue pointlessly with you.
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Huskar, Pingster
Post by: Jack Baker on March 05, 2013, 16:03:30 pm: I'll be partly handling this report as im Huskar's supervisor.

I first would like to know why Huskar was having a civilian with him on PD duty.
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Huskar, Pingster
Post by: Huskar on March 05, 2013, 16:39:07 pm: I was searching for house with him , he is my friend.
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Huskar, Pingster
Post by: Jack Baker on March 05, 2013, 17:01:36 pm: Alright.. clears up alot.. let me make this clear tho; Do not do off duty things on duty, this is simply not allowed (such as searching for houses, businesses or cars).

About the drive-bying part.. why did the guy decide to go in drive-by position and did he actually open fire?
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Huskar, Pingster
Post by: [WS]Mike on March 05, 2013, 17:29:28 pm: My name is Sergeant Sangelo and I'll be handling the ARPD side of this report. The primary concern is the fact that your passenger was impersonating a Law Enforcement Officer as you were driving without any (visible) punishment given to him. Are there any final statements while I finalize reviewing this?

(This also needs to be moved to the ARPD reports section)
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Huskar, Pingster
Post by: Jack Baker on March 05, 2013, 17:34:36 pm: Please do not continue to a further progress untill my answers are answered and my green light is given Sgt.
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Huskar, Pingster
Post by: [WS]Mike on March 05, 2013, 17:44:56 pm: Quote from: Jack Baker on March 05, 2013, 17:34:36 pm
Please do not continue to a further progress untill my answers are answered and my green light is given Sgt.
Can do.
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Huskar, Pingster
Post by: Huskar on March 05, 2013, 18:25:35 pm: Quote from: Jack Baker on March 05, 2013, 17:01:36 pm
Alright.. clears up alot.. let me make this clear tho; Do not do off duty things on duty, this is simply not allowed (such as searching for houses, businesses or cars).

About the drive-bying part.. why did the guy decide to go in drive-by position and did he actually open fire?

Well he was just testing something, and no he did not open fire as i said i didn't allowed him to.
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Huskar, Pingster
Post by: Pingster on March 05, 2013, 18:27:34 pm: That something can be easily abused too D: Anyway, I stayed in DB position afterwards for no specific reason, other than liking the way it looks. At no point was the weapon shot at anyone (or near anyone), or intentionally aimed at anyone.

As for the visible punishment, again, don't need /su to deal with crime - I respect a friend asking me to stop it, so I did that. Had the reporter not been paused all the time, writing the report, he'd have later seen me sitting down without DB and not shouting stuff.
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Huskar, Pingster
Post by: Petar. on March 05, 2013, 18:51:25 pm: Quote from: Pingster on March 05, 2013, 18:27:34 pm
That something can be easily abused too D: Anyway, I stayed in DB position afterwards for no specific reason, other than liking the way it looks. At no point was the weapon shot at anyone (or near anyone), or intentionally aimed at anyone.

As for the visible punishment, again, don't need /su to deal with crime - I respect a friend asking me to stop it, so I did that. Had the reporter not been paused all the time, writing the report, he'd have later seen me sitting down without DB and not shouting stuff.
You were aiming at me and other ballas all the time, no matter did you shot or no, you are scaring civlians. How could I know that you won't shoot? Explain me that

It was 12:32 on the pic where I SSed you, on other pic it's 12:39, you were still aiming with gun. Wasn't 7 minutes enough for Huskar to say "Quit the drive-by position"? If you are on police duty and you see 4 door car with fully armed guys in drive-by position what would you do? Leave them to make trouble, or pullover them and explain them.
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Huskar, Pingster
Post by: Pingster on March 05, 2013, 19:05:35 pm: I was looking around, sure, but intentionally aiming at them? No.

As being in a driveby position isn't any less legal than just sitting with the M4 poking through my arse (Both situations a gun is visible, and that's all there is to it.), never occurred to me personally that people would make such a fuss about it - I wasn't aiding Huskar (if anything, I was slowing him down), I didn't shoot at people, I didn't verbally threaten them. And you knew I wouldn't shoot because you'd have to be an exceptionally stupid person to DM while sitting on a bike with an admin driving it, I may not always pick the smartest options there are, but I didn't think I was giving off a vibe of being that stupid. Anyway, due to all this, I stayed in DB position not thinking much of it.

However, do not accuse Huskar for not doing anything about imitating the law enforcement, 'cause he did tell me to stop, and I stopped.
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Huskar, Pingster
Post by: Huskar on March 05, 2013, 21:20:02 pm: I would like Mr.Paul Hernandez to handle this report, if possible.
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Huskar, Pingster
Post by: Jack Baker on March 05, 2013, 21:22:56 pm: Keep in mind this isnt a catalog where you can pick your report handler, me and Sgt. Mike are handling it.
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Huskar, Pingster
Post by: [WS]Mike on March 05, 2013, 21:32:49 pm: (http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/7318/patchwithcuffs2300.png)
San Andreas Police Department
05/3/2013

STATEMENT IN REGARDS TO THE CLOSURE OF THIS REPORT

On the March the 5th, 2013, at 13:08 HOURS a report was submitted by Petar. as a lawful citizen

of the United States of Argonath.
Since then, an investigation has been conducted by the SAPD command staff member:
- Sergeant Mike Sangelo

The summary and conclusion of the report has now been decided and will be released to the public.

-- Officer had an armed civilian in his vehicle
-- The passenger impersonated a Law Enforcement Officer and was not punished

-- In conclusion, ARPD Officer [TCL]Huskar will be issued a warning due to his actions for having an armed civilian impersonate a LEO while in his vehicle and continuing on his duties. The decision was agreed upon alongside his Supervisor, Jack Baker.

If the verdict of this report seems unfair to anyone, you can report this to me to a Deputy Chief via an ARPD

Forum PM and we might reopen the case if your argument is valid enough.

Signed,
Sergeant Mike Sangelo
Title: Re: [ARPD Report] Huskar, Pingster
Post by: [Rstar]Paul on March 07, 2013, 13:31:51 pm: Refer to Sergeant Mike's closure statement.

Closed.