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General Discussion / Re: Where you all at?
« Last post by James Moretti on September 23, 2022, 17:37:51 pm »Give me SRT and I'll consider it.
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 | Name: Andrew_Davidson Current rank: VCPD Sergeant Department: VC:MP Reasons: Disgusting display of bigotry and homophobia that upset a lot of players in the server, even after having been warned to avoid the subject if unable to keep it civil. Unexpected and disappointing display of behaviour incompatible with the standards of VCPD. Punishment: Officer fired.
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News & Announcements / Re: Changes to the structure of the SAPD
« Last post by Kowalski. on September 08, 2022, 07:11:21 am »SAPD can be like LAPD
It was under Bas and Spike, till the next command came along, it all got reverted to some RS4 like shit or something, and of course died
You're not wrong with anything you've said by the way, but admittedly Huntsman's right in saying that Argo MTA:SA is on it's way, so of course, the best course of action is to wait on it
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News & Announcements / Re: Changes to the structure of the SAPD
« Last post by [DFC]Doyle on September 08, 2022, 06:28:16 am »Sorry guys i was drunk
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News & Announcements / Re: Changes to the structure of the SAPD
« Last post by Huntsman on September 07, 2022, 14:40:46 pm »Can you please explain the point of replying to a two years old topic for a department which is technically no longer functional due to plans of shutting down SAMP? 
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News & Announcements / Re: Changes to the structure of the SAPD
« Last post by [DFC]Doyle on September 07, 2022, 08:40:24 am »Quote
they do not have to rely on impressing a single person that might, or might not like them or is actively around in the department.
What the f**k?
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News & Announcements / Re: Changes to the structure of the SAPD
« Last post by [DFC]Doyle on September 07, 2022, 08:36:23 am »All ranks have different functions you cannot change them, a captain cannot assume the position of a CoP, it is a huge fallacy, captains are Commanding Officer (not Staff officers) of a division or patrol division, a captain is supposed to be in charge of managing his station, enforce policies and regulations, improve the performance of their officers assigned to their area.
I believe that what is happening here is that many have the rank they are not supposed to have, or the chain of command is poorly managed and they confuse functions or do not fulfill them.
I believe that what is happening here is that many have the rank they are not supposed to have, or the chain of command is poorly managed and they confuse functions or do not fulfill them.
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News & Announcements / Re: Changes to the structure of the SAPD
« Last post by [DFC]Doyle on September 07, 2022, 08:30:05 am »Horrible
What a huge fallacy this unpleasant change, what a shame for LAPD
yah guys should change obvius thing like removing the code 10 system, lapd doesn't use it, I know this is SAPG but come on, SAPD need a change but not their hierarchy.
SAPD can be like LAPD
What a huge fallacy this unpleasant change, what a shame for LAPD
yah guys should change obvius thing like removing the code 10 system, lapd doesn't use it, I know this is SAPG but come on, SAPD need a change but not their hierarchy.
SAPD can be like LAPD
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[VC:MP] Closed Complaints / Re: Complaint Against VCPD Chief Gabriel "Huntsman" Adams
« Last post by VCPR on September 05, 2022, 01:46:25 am »Greetings,
First of all, I'd like to point out that Chief Adams never prevented any of us from taking part nor testifying in your appeal, Mr. Swindle. His only concern was using VCPD signatures as if we were talking on behalf of VCPD as a whole which is the case with my own recommendation letter. Such action is considered to be violating the Chain of Command which lead to disciplinary actions being taken. However, Chief Adams kept insisting that everyone has the right to have their own opinion and express themselves the way they like.
I wasn't treated unfairly by Chief Adams, the warning I received could have been avoided if I consulted the command beforehand so it was fair enough.
In short, I received that warning because I signed with my VCPD rank not because of my words themselves.
As for my letter, I was asked for a recommendation letter for Mr. Swindle as a fellow officer and I wrote it with sincerity and I genuinely meant every word I said. These words came from my experience with you on the field and have got nothing to do with the case itself as I almost know nothing about its details.
However, I'm a bit concerned about this complaint of yours. How I'm feeling is that your prior dispute with VCPD/FBI was the motive that led you to file such complaint against Chief Adams, since to me he didn't break any laws by requesting that only the testimonies issued on behalf of VCPD (as an organization) to be invalidated (aka mine and hazard's).
He had no problems whatsoever with Captain Arthur "Nylez" Williams' testimony which I believe got the strongest words in your defense. Yet you're here pointing fingers at Chief Adams saying that he broke the law, when he just did what was supposed to be done.
My advice for you is to focus on your main appeal and try to avoid getting dragged into side business that won't benefit your case in my opinion. I wish you all the best.
By giving the kind officers disciplinary action and demoting them for simply giving testimony at my appeal, Chief Adams clearly is knowingly attempting to dissuade several witnesses in court to retract their testimonies at the appeal proceeding, by using disciplinary action upon these men.
I would go even as far as to say that by doing so, he is also instilling fear in any other law enforcement member who might think of giving testimony that isn't specifically ordered by himself.
First of all, I'd like to point out that Chief Adams never prevented any of us from taking part nor testifying in your appeal, Mr. Swindle. His only concern was using VCPD signatures as if we were talking on behalf of VCPD as a whole which is the case with my own recommendation letter. Such action is considered to be violating the Chain of Command which lead to disciplinary actions being taken. However, Chief Adams kept insisting that everyone has the right to have their own opinion and express themselves the way they like.
I wasn't treated unfairly by Chief Adams, the warning I received could have been avoided if I consulted the command beforehand so it was fair enough.
In short, I received that warning because I signed with my VCPD rank not because of my words themselves.
As for my letter, I was asked for a recommendation letter for Mr. Swindle as a fellow officer and I wrote it with sincerity and I genuinely meant every word I said. These words came from my experience with you on the field and have got nothing to do with the case itself as I almost know nothing about its details.
However, I'm a bit concerned about this complaint of yours. How I'm feeling is that your prior dispute with VCPD/FBI was the motive that led you to file such complaint against Chief Adams, since to me he didn't break any laws by requesting that only the testimonies issued on behalf of VCPD (as an organization) to be invalidated (aka mine and hazard's).
He had no problems whatsoever with Captain Arthur "Nylez" Williams' testimony which I believe got the strongest words in your defense. Yet you're here pointing fingers at Chief Adams saying that he broke the law, when he just did what was supposed to be done.
My advice for you is to focus on your main appeal and try to avoid getting dragged into side business that won't benefit your case in my opinion. I wish you all the best.
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[VC:MP] Closed Complaints / Re: Complaint Against VCPD Chief Gabriel "Huntsman" Adams
« Last post by Huntsman on September 04, 2022, 19:18:25 pm »My mistake, I got confused due to the name of the "Suspensions & Demotions" topic.
This does not however change the fact that by giving warnings and disciplinary talks, you still dissuaded witnesses from providing testimonies which are a formal written or spoken statement, especially one given in a court of law, by using fear.
I believe I already provided the explanation above, and why these warnings were valid as they were for misrepresentation of the department due to these officers, without authorisation, implying they were representing the VCPD.
They were free to express their opinions as citizens without getting the VCPD involved.
I have no further comment.