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Offline Plam Knight

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Re: Have a suggestion for SAPD?
« Reply #20 on: January 07, 2012, 14:54:15 pm »
Well, actually...in many ways Max is right.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In-group–out-group_bias

^ Just look at the references...I don't like using Wikipedia on full face value.
It's human nature to show favouritism for people in the "in-group", and it is naive to think that it does not happen. Psychological studies (as shown above) offer huge amounts of evidence for this, in both field experiments, natural experiments and lab experiments.

Honestly, I have spoken to SAPD Officers in the past who are bloody good at what they do, but don't get recognised for it. I'm not saying it happens every time, all the time, but human nature dictates that we do show favouritism, and that cannot be ignored.

It seems like I'm just siding with Max, but I've come up with those conclusions from reading the evidence shown to me  ;)

Indeed in the human nature there has always been favouritism, but its kind of redicless to just point out how there is favouritism in something that you have never worked within or never seen how it works. As well please lets stop with this, I heard a story from my friend, who heard it from his friend, who heard it from his grandpa, who heard it from his grandpa and so on...
If you saw something with your own eyes, then sure do share it, but lets stop with these stories that pass by 5000 people and they all change the meaning of it.

I have seen a lot of great officers as well for past almost 3 years, yet when you get promoted to the point, where you decide which officer is supposed to get promoted, you don't just look at their basic skills anymore, you have to look in behavior, discipline, paperwork at some point, every single little thing steps in here. So lets say some officer has great skills, but his attitude is very poor, of course this person cannot be promoted to lead other people with such a attitude.

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Re: Have a suggestion for SAPD?
« Reply #21 on: January 07, 2012, 16:15:51 pm »
  I don't really mind if SAPD became 1 department, it has its advantages. But also its a reasonably balanced system we have at the moment. We are all united under the SAPD banner and each PD has free roam to form its own style.
  If SAPD was completely split up into separate PD's each with their own chief... this would not work at all. The PD's would conflict much more and may even cause fights. Besides, there is not enough command staff for this anyway.

  Anyway, what will probably happen is that DPD will go and the countryside will be protected by LSPD, SFPD and LVPD.



  As for favouritism within SAPD - chances are that players who are promoted are friendly with whoever promoted them - since some may find it difficult to give responsibilities to those they do not know, trust or get on with. Which makes sense really. In many cases though - those who stand out are usually promoted in SAPD from their work which is quite obvious. Since there are not that many leader types and as a result we are lacking quite a lot of command staff. If friends were promoted... I'm sure this wouldn't be the case.

 


 
  For official (Sub)groups in SAPD - groups can become official and can get scripted support -  if it is supported by SAPD and developers. For this though you really need to work at a group. With BCSD, this is unlikely to get support or become official because we already have an official faction that covers this - DPD.

  In SAPD you can great your own official groups, but they do not get scripted support and are usually monitored by a PD. E.g. I occasionally see some police biker or traffic groups popping up within PD's.
  My own group - BAIT (Immigration Patrol) could have become an official faction of SAPD with scripted help even (we actually have a custom HQ in LS Docks)... but I only got this opportunity quite late and could not continue the project.

  Anyway if you make a group, the objective is not that it should become official. The objective is for it to be a great group. If it is a great and succesful group - chances are it will become official in some way anyway.
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Re: Have a suggestion for SAPD?
« Reply #22 on: January 07, 2012, 16:33:56 pm »
For those pointing at knowing officers who do a good job and do not get rewarded, it is from this moment on your DUTY to recommend them to the Captains. Then if they do not get rewarded you can ask the Captains for an evaluation and you will know the reasons. Should this still point to favouritism, then you ca nreport to the Chief.

If you hear this story but do not know yourself anyone, consider it bullshit.

SAPD is one force and it one department. It just has some subdivisions that are to be working together, not compete.

Offline GiacJr

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Re: Have a suggestion for SAPD?
« Reply #23 on: January 08, 2012, 13:04:51 pm »
For those pointing at knowing officers who do a good job and do not get rewarded, it is from this moment on your DUTY to recommend them to the Captains. Then if they do not get rewarded you can ask the Captains for an evaluation and you will know the reasons. Should this still point to favouritism, then you ca nreport to the Chief.

If you hear this story but do not know yourself anyone, consider it bullshit.

SAPD is one force and it one department. It just has some subdivisions that are to be working together, not compete.
SAPD shouldn't even have departments
2007 ranks - DPD Captain, DPD Chief.
2008 ranks - SAPD Deputy Chief, SAPD Sergeant, 207 topkop.
2009 ranks - SAPD Application Manager, DPD Sergeant, DPD Lieutenant, DPD Transfer Request Manager.
2010 ranks - DPD Captain, SWAT Associate.
2011 ranks - LSPD Officer, DPD Officer.
Medals - 4 Meritorious Service Medals, 3 Community Policing Medals, 1 Police Star Medal.

Offline Francisco Martinez

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Re: Have a suggestion for SAPD?
« Reply #24 on: January 08, 2012, 13:13:13 pm »
Departments make everything much more organised.
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Offline [WS]Adam[BCSD]

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Re: Have a suggestion for SAPD?
« Reply #25 on: January 08, 2012, 14:05:35 pm »
Departments make everything much more organised.
Well yes, Departments make everything easily controlable, and you can see through everything.
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Offline [Rstar]Paul

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Re: Have a suggestion for SAPD?
« Reply #26 on: January 08, 2012, 15:05:56 pm »
I'll list some points which explain why we have expanded departments in the SAPD.

- Due to the population and expanding of the SAPD
- To make it more organized
- Easier for the leaders to sort out some stuff which is in regards to the department
- Get a better knowledge of officers and their future instead of looking over 80+ officers.
- Opportunities to experience and enjoy you're own policing style ( LSPD, DPD, LVPD and SFPD all have different roles / acts)

And some other points which mostly explain why. It's basically giving you some opportunity to choose some style that you enjoy instead of being automatically in one department which does the same thing. Thus is why we have Department transfers, to give a fair opportunity to experience other department roles and styles.

However, overall - SAPD is ONE team, and that team is to serve and protect to the state.

If you wanna roleplay being a Sheriff and want to be drunk in the rusty golden roads - DPD is your option
If you wanna roleplay being a Los Angeles city cop as per normal cops role in the clean spotless roads - LSPD is your option
If you wanna roleplay being a Chicago sort of person and want to be in some sort of a enlightening department with amazing streets - SFPD is your choice
If you wanna roleplay being a Las Vegas sort of person such as a semi-sheriff or a professional person in the strips and casinos with highways nearby - LVPD is your choice

 

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