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Offline MikeUK

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Codes and their over usage
« on: July 22, 2009, 00:13:36 am »
This may come to no surprise but I keep hearing the code '30' being used too much, sometimes unneccesarily.For example, today, someone was calling Code 30 for a fist fight inside LSPD. That was unnecessary. I think we need a new code for officer in a fist fight/melee attack.
If it's happening to me I use 'Urgent Assistance Required' not 'Code 30'.

Code 30 is for officer in serious danger and is not for a normal backup request. For normal backup we should have 'Assistance Required' for more serious backup 'Urgent Assistance' and For Major Backup Code 30.

I think a lot of it is to do with the codes and how vague they are.

Offline FlameMan

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Re: Codes and their over usage
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2009, 00:30:21 am »
For minor assault such as fist, we use code 3... proceed with lights and sirens
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Offline candyman

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Re: Codes and their over usage
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2009, 01:23:09 am »
I do agree with Mike in saying that Code 30 is often over used sometimes. I'm not saying all the time, but it is over used.

Offline Rabbit

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Re: Codes and their over usage
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2009, 01:38:54 am »
When someone reports a Code30, I put it in front of all other assignments, yes, it does tick me off when I get there, and nobody is there. Especially when you ask in Radio where the Code30 is and everyone replies "Its been over for a couple minutes now." And nobody said Code4 in chat or anything.

It is overused definitely, but when it is used I respond even if I think it's a BS call.

I think there could be a code for urgent backup/assistance required, maybe Code 33, or the traditional 10-78 could work?

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Offline Oliver Daniels

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Re: Codes and their over usage
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2009, 06:11:55 am »
I've seen a guy report a code purple when there were 3 guys hanging out at their hood. That was totally retarded.

I agree that SAPD should enforce their codes a bit stricter so you get warned for reporting a fake code 3/30/purple red etc.

Offline RoryAnstruther

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Re: Codes and their over usage
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2009, 19:59:31 pm »
I have to disagree with flameman.

Don't say "Code 3 in progress" or "I'm in a code 3 situation" or "code 3" for when you're in a fist fight.

Code 3 is a response code. "I'm responding with code 3" "I am coming Code 3"

Code 3 isn't a situation factor/level, it's a response level.
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Offline Baz

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Re: Codes and their over usage
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2009, 20:11:28 pm »
responding code 3 means I'm comming with lights and sirens activates... AKA ASAP. You don't need to inform responding units to travel code 3, it is in fact redundant as it goes without saying when there is a oh **** situation going down... The code 1, 2 , 3 are there for informational purpose only. I never say I'm responding code 3... I keep it short and sweet, i'm responding... or i'm enroute. Maybe if an officer asks assistance I can ask how bad I need to get there depending on the situation... Unit blah, do you need me to respond "emergency" or AKA code 3?

Offline Wayne

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Re: Codes and their over usage
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2009, 02:44:57 am »
We do also have freecops, they does not understand the police codes correctly.
So sometimes, they do not know how to apply these code rules correctly, so sometimes, we can expect a freecop calling incorrectly a situation by a different code, such as mentioned at replies above.

But actually, we should enforce cadets/officers/freecops(maybe) to follow these code rules and apply them correctly at cop duty, you can sometimes save someone life just by enforcing these rules.

Offline FlameMan

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Re: Codes and their over usage
« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2009, 12:50:10 pm »
I have to disagree with flameman.

Don't say "Code 3 in progress" or "I'm in a code 3 situation" or "code 3" for when you're in a fist fight.

Code 3 is a response code. "I'm responding with code 3" "I am coming Code 3"

Code 3 isn't a situation factor/level, it's a response level.

Code 3 = PROCEED WITH LIGHTS AND SIRENS.
You can say: I am responding with code 3, but you can always say "Requesting units, c3", which is not same as "serious" code 30.
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Offline RoryAnstruther

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Re: Codes and their over usage
« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2009, 21:02:07 pm »
Yeah you can say respond with code 3, that's fine.

What I meant was in response to your statement, how you were referring to a situation BEING a code 3.

A situation can't be code 3, but you can RESPOND to a situation Code 3, is all I was stating.
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Offline [R*]Austin

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Re: Codes and their over usage
« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2009, 19:09:54 pm »
Code is used to sitrep someone or order someone with the requested backup importance...

"Request backup Marina Code 3" Available units proceed with lights and sirens.
"IMMIDIATE BACKUP Code 30" Means ALL available units AND those units performing trafic stops - giving tickets or any minor operation SHOULD proceed with code 3!

So i advice immidiate response to a code 30 ESPECIALLY when a higher ranked officer like Chief or Captain is reporting this code...


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