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Author Topic: New rules applying for ARPD/SAPD communications on the field & forums!  (Read 8733 times)

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Offline Taylor_P

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Re: New rules applying for ARPD/SAPD communications on the field & forums!
« Reply #20 on: November 17, 2010, 23:04:55 pm »
Ok with this post im going to express how i feel with the hole situation in a civil but not polite way so bear with me. 1st off If you make a rule saying all Police Groups must be gone then Why is SRU and USM still around I see this as abusing power and making a loops hole and to be honest to an outsider it makes Captains look like they are corrupt they make rules and regulations that they themselves do not abide yet demand everyone else to due so. A LEADER leads by example not by experience or because your an admin.

2nd Again with the corruption idea so who is actually in charge here? Is there no one to check the balance of power in the Police System? I am not questioning the regulations but the people who put them in, I know CBF was Leader of ARPD but with him sick are people just abusing this and going mad with power because there is no one to stop them or whoever is In charge of ARPD is either to buddy or afraid of this? I mean it seems like someone's personal vendetta has just fired an entire department and forced people to abide by there Iron will, now there is always two sides of every story and I personally there is a huge amount of BS that lurks in the background that low ranks and the public never learns until later when it becomes unimportant but throw us a bone here.

I'm not one to actually do anything big or about changing the status quoe but this just seems like Germany 1934 All over again and if you dont know your History this is when Hitler Came into power and then started to abuse it.

Offline Hank_Rafferty

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Re: New rules applying for ARPD/SAPD communications on the field & forums!
« Reply #21 on: November 17, 2010, 23:20:29 pm »
Question, if i do parking Enforcement, can we use a separate CB for talking between tow trucks so it does not conflict with /r, and only use /r when on a scene of a traffic violation etc?


All police talk goes in /r .. every report what is related to the police RP.. parking police... universtiy police.. airport police...... All!

@Taylor_P

If you are not part of the SAPD.. you can make up your own group... and it can be a lawenforcement group (except if devs dissallowed it).

In that case.. if you are part of the SAPD... first you make a proposal, and if the upper command staff finds the group what you are about to creat is good for the PD.. you get green light, and you get a place on our forums.

To answer to your question, USM, and SRU.. is usefull for the SAPD.. however they will be changed in some way... what you will notice.

Anyways... if you would like to report somebody for abuse, you can use the community email also...


About comparing the sapd to the nazi germany... hmm... i dont know what are you talking about.
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Offline Sushi

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Re: New rules applying for ARPD/SAPD communications on the field & forums!
« Reply #22 on: November 17, 2010, 23:33:24 pm »
Nancy, I must say I disagree with you strongly here.

Both the SRU and USM were official groups before this rule was implemented, hence they must've been decided that they were important even among the already numerous police groups. The thing about corruption? Gandalf is always around and if you can't trust him to be just than I struggle to understand who you can trust. For the comments on the 'lower ranks', the blue colour although at the time seemingly unimportant became an issue/argument at times. The 'lower ranks' fought for the colour to be returned and when everyone em masse, they brought it back.
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Offline Taylor_P

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Re: New rules applying for ARPD/SAPD communications on the field & forums!
« Reply #23 on: November 17, 2010, 23:46:13 pm »
No im not mad Hank did reply however if you cannot public question something that anyone in ARPD says then yeah there is a problem, I know who and where to go and how to push buttons w/o pushing them too far as well there's a answer to my question and a statement that was made clear for anyone who can read English, however i get the feeling that just questioning hank makes me hated and a bad officer now? If so then was my comment about Nazism true and it may have been misplaced though.

Offline Ronnel

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Re: New rules applying for ARPD/SAPD communications on the field & forums!
« Reply #24 on: November 17, 2010, 23:50:41 pm »
Taylor, unless you did not read all topic you might not have noticed that the rule changes over the last couple of days were instigated by me, not by Hank.
In the past year we have lost two groups of players for the main reason that they wanted to be an official competing group with SAPD, and crossed the limit of being a friend group to becoming an elitist force that would not interact with others. Another thing we witnessed has been the inactivity of SWAT operations, even if SWAT members are still active and playing.
From this we have drawn some conclusions. First of all ARPD and SAPD are the main law enforcement structures, and like in real life the law enforcement is a non-competing entity so it is on Argonath. ARPD (and yes I mean ARPD) should all work together towards the common goal of keeping the streets free of crime, and not start a competition other than a friendly one.
Anyone who feels they can separate them selves from the other law enforcement officers on server is invited to create a civilian security company and abstain from being a law enforcer, by free wil or by force if needed.
As far as the communication rules, they are valid for SRU and USM as well as any other department or group.
Perhaps you have noticed that their TS channels have been removed.

The one group who may return to having a non-patrol channel on TS is SWAT, if they can reactivate themselves.
This because a professional SWAT team has a separate status and would need heavy communication that could disturb the standars police radio of confuse non-SWAT officers.

Offline Chief J. Schappell

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Re: New rules applying for ARPD/SAPD communications on the field & forums!
« Reply #25 on: November 18, 2010, 04:31:38 am »
Question, if i do parking Enforcement, can we use a separate CB for talking between tow trucks so it does not conflict with /r, and only use /r when on a scene of a traffic violation etc?
If it is to speak with tow trucks, yes. That is technically not official police communication, that is towing communication. If you are reporting in that you are towing a vehicle as a police violation, though, then report in /r.

Offline wil harris

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Re: New rules applying for ARPD/SAPD communications on the field & forums!
« Reply #26 on: November 18, 2010, 06:15:10 am »
I Feel that dispite the fact my police group has closed, it is beeter for the community if we act as one force. Btw Non-police security groups such as Af keep their Cb channels dont wory about that.
Signed, [UA]wil_conti[AF]

Offline Lionel Valdes

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Re: New rules applying for ARPD/SAPD communications on the field & forums!
« Reply #27 on: November 18, 2010, 12:38:56 pm »
Question, if i do parking Enforcement, can we use a separate CB for talking between tow trucks so it does not conflict with /r, and only use /r when on a scene of a traffic violation etc?
you can/must use both.

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Offline JayL

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Re: New rules applying for ARPD/SAPD communications on the field & forums!
« Reply #28 on: November 24, 2010, 18:23:27 pm »
Question to Hank/Gandalf -

During an organised patrol, is it okay for teams to give information on /cb as long as the dispatch repasses each piece of that information which is judged to be relevant to other SAPD units in /r?
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