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Offline Ben

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Comparing ranks
« on: June 05, 2011, 22:04:20 pm »
To avoid confusion, I'm quoting some questions and answers given in a different topic.
This quote basically outlines who outranks who, within the SAPD at any rate.
I'm just looking for yes/no answers, perhaps with a little explanation here  :)

1. Do SAPD Officers technically outrank ARPD Officers?
Yes
2. If yes, does this mean they can give them orders?
yes

3. Do SAPD Senior Officers outrank ARPD Officers?
yes
4. If yes, does this mean they can give them orders?
yes

5. Do FBI Agents outrank ARPD Officers?
yes
6. Does this mean they can give them orders?
yes

7. Do FBI Special Agents outrank ARPD Officers?
yes
8. Does this mean they can give them orders?
yes

9. Do FBI Agents outrank SAPD Officers?
yes
10. Does this mean they can give them orders?
yes
11. Do FBI Special Agents outrank SAPD Officers?
yes
12. Does this mean they can give them orders?
yes
13. Do FBI Agents outrank SAPD Officers?
yes
14. Does this mean they can give them orders?
yes

15. Do FBI Special Agents outrank SAPD Senior Officers?
yes
16. Does this mean they can give them orders?
yes
This has always interested me. If I could have the answers to these, then I could maybe start some kind of diagram showing the FBI/SAPD/ARPD together, so new Officers know where they stand.
Later I would add higher ranks too  :D
Only looking for straight answers, I don't like possibly's and maybe's.
While the answers are straight, unfortunately they do not take in account that this is valid only within the boundaries of role play. With the sometimes questionable attitude of several players, the line between an order and non-rp behaviour is hard to tell and has to be judged by the present players.

RP order : I am FBI Agent, we need this criminal for a federal case
Non-RP order: I am FBI, freecops GTFO

RP order: Take the suspect in for investigation
Non-RP order: Leave him alone you don't know how to play cop.
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Re: Comparing ranks
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2011, 22:59:54 pm »
Who gave you those funny answers? No, FBI Agent doesnt outrank SAPD Officer and cant order him. FBI Special Agent cant neither, as he doest outrank SAPD Officer neither. Same comes with relations FBI to Senior Officer.

As for the SAPD - senior officer does outrank sapd officer but cannot order him. "Senior" added to rank shows experience and hard work. It doesnt make Senior superior of SAPD Officers.
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Re: Comparing ranks
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2011, 23:01:45 pm »
Ronnel gave those answers if you look at the quote names.

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Re: Comparing ranks
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2011, 23:19:44 pm »
Who gave you those funny answers? No, FBI Agent doesnt outrank SAPD Officer and cant order him. FBI Special Agent cant neither, as he doest outrank SAPD Officer neither. Same comes with relations FBI to Senior Officer.

As for the SAPD - senior officer does outrank sapd officer but cannot order him. "Senior" added to rank shows experience and hard work. It doesnt make Senior superior of SAPD Officers.
See answer below your post :)
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Re: Comparing ranks
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2011, 23:54:42 pm »
Who gave you those funny answers? No, FBI Agent doesnt outrank SAPD Officer and cant order him. FBI Special Agent cant neither, as he doest outrank SAPD Officer neither. Same comes with relations FBI to Senior Officer.

As for the SAPD - senior officer does outrank sapd officer but cannot order him. "Senior" added to rank shows experience and hard work. It doesnt make Senior superior of SAPD Officers.

Who told you that funny answer? :)


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Offline Cane

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Re: Comparing ranks
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2011, 03:56:47 am »
What the f**k, since when did FBI agents outrank SAPD officers? That is pure bullshit.
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Re: Comparing ranks
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2011, 05:40:14 am »
What the f**k, since when did FBI agents outrank SAPD officers? That is pure bullshit.

I guess they do...   :trust:

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Re: Comparing ranks
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2011, 22:55:53 pm »
In situations like where the FBI can interrupt, they can outrank SAPD Officers yes, and give them RP orders, as Gandalf quoted in his post.
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Re: Comparing ranks
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2011, 23:33:39 pm »
What the f**k, since when did FBI agents outrank SAPD officers? That is pure bullshit.

That is a basic reflection of my opinion too.

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Re: Comparing ranks
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2011, 23:46:06 pm »
Thats seriously bullshit. Asslicker Nexxt will obviously lick Gandalf. He is wrong here, FBI never had rank advantage over SAPD. CBFasi and Hank taught us that. Most of people will be probably afraid to disagree with Gandalf, but he is not right. And im sure if Gandalf didnt give those answers, and CBF would say FBI does not overrank SAPD, Nexxt and some others would agree with CBF, to look like experienced. B-u-l-l-s-h-i-t!
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Re: Comparing ranks
« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2011, 23:50:15 pm »
  It's just an RP thing, like in movies, FBI have more training for some scenarios, so will outrank cops. Makes more sense to let those who know what they are doing take charge.

  Don't even see what the big deal is. SAPD and FBI share common goals, there are extremely rare occurrences where FBI would need to pull rank on SAPD anyway.



Also, if any FBI or SAPD, any rank, tried to order my character to do something that I disagreed upon, with my characters mixed up morale compass, I wouldn't do it anyway. And this is very rare, cause our goals do not conflict so often.
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Offline Leroy Hudson

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Re: Comparing ranks
« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2011, 00:37:26 am »
Acknowledge the information.

Flameman/Nexxt - I advise you to put a halt to your unprofessional brawls, I will not be asking again..

 

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