What RP is this?

[peps]

Yesterday our group Corleone took 1 hostages in LS bank.
We asked for 30k $ or will shoot the hostage.
Then an unknown guy entered the bank and said: "Hi". After it he was our 2nd hostage.
5 min after a FBI agent entered and started talk with out leader, few min after he was our 3rd hostage.
We waited some time and then like 10 cops (FBI,cadets,officers) entered the bank and just started to shoot us ! No rp at all we talled we shoot the hostages + they had FBI hostage that bascily in rl they would do that stupid thing for his life and 2 another hostages. They just entered and shot us all! where is the RP?
What happened to Argonath server? I remember how long time ago we could do kidnappes with fun but now everything is gone !
Comment please what you think about this

[Larry "Pixy" Faulke]

I do not see ARPD at fault here because of one very important note. You have 2 hostages which raises tensions already and when the FBI agent came to your leader to NEGOTIATE, you captured him and took him as a hostage. Capturing negotiators isn't a very bright idea as this gives the impression that you have no intentions to negotiate, if you don't want to negotiate a deal then the only other way for ARPD to resolve the situation is to storm in, neutralize the kidnappers and secure the hostages.

No rp at all we talled we shoot the hostages + they had FBI hostage that bascily in rl they would do that stupid thing for his life and 2 another hostages. They just entered and shot us all! where is the RP?

No RP eh? ARPD tried to RP with you guys by sending in the negotiator and instead you took him hostage and you just blew away the chance to do a proper kidnapping RP.

Another note: Do not start to moan because the kidnapping turned sour. If you have any complaints please make a proper report format in our "report to leaders" section.

[smey]

Peps, it's the same RP as doing /q when you are about to get killed by a cop, think of it

[peps]

Huh... you dont get it, I dont know exactly why we took the FBI agent as a hostage maybe he said something no idea but, think of this we have 3 hostages ! one of them is even FBI agent, their mission was to stop us but at the same time save the hostages right? now they know that if they enter and shoot us all we kill all the hostages, so instead of doing normal rp and give us the cash ! or something more intersting they just entered shot everybody, we killed the hostages so basicly that was an rp but the lamest ever.

[Sanchez]

Let me guess, you had this perfect little idea in your head and was convinced you would get 30k. Your tactic failed hard and now you are blaming ARPD. Sorry buddy, but the world dosent always work as you want, get over it. And imo you shouldnt say anything about "no rp" or whatever.

[JaMeS Alterlis]

Have u ever seen any thing, when there is kidnapping and cop gave u money without getting it back?
They no way to give criminal money, at least if they gave, they will return it back my chasing and killing that kidnapper.

But in this situation, as everyone said on Main forum and this ARPD Forum.
You have 3 hostages (one of them is FBI), we planned to storm in.

We plan b4 storm in, not we send multiple cops to storm in randomly and kill everyone there
WE HAVE PLAN

Since I joined Argonath, about 1 year now. I never seen any kidnapper got money out from the crime scene.
The point of u making this topic is because u fail at getting 30k and got random shots by multiple officers.

You are inside the interior, we are outside
How u know that we didn't RP and just storm in?

Can we end this discussion and lock/remove this topic right now please

[peps]

Look guys Im will not blame any one just Im intrested as you said James by kidnapping we cant get money? All the kidnap stuff doesnt give anything?

[Ryan_van_Buiten]

Have u ever seen any thing, when there is kidnapping and cop gave u money without getting it back?
They no way to give criminal money, at least if they gave, they will return it back my chasing and killing that kidnapper.

But in this situation, as everyone said on Main forum and this ARPD Forum.
You have 3 hostages (one of them is FBI), we planned to storm in.

We plan b4 storm in, not we send multiple cops to storm in randomly and kill everyone there
WE HAVE PLAN

Since I joined Argonath, about 1 year now. I never seen any kidnapper got money out from the crime scene.
The point of u making this topic is because u fail at getting 30k and got random shots by multiple officers.

You are inside the interior, we are outside
How u know that we didn't RP and just storm in?

Can we end this discussion and lock/remove this topic right now please

I remember there was one time you just dont remember it

[Thomas_Crof]

Peps, you are just money hungry.

Also, as Pixy said, it's not very smart to take a negociater as hostage. About the non-RP: mostly it's the criminals who don't RP (such as /exit while not even near the door). Also, I don't get why the 2nd hostage could enter, but why didn't you send him away? He could've been a cop and have a gun...

[ElMartu]

30k per hostage? Come on, the FBI doesn't even pay 1k, what did you expect :/.

[Nexxt]

Next time if you want money, get a loan at a BANK.
ARPD is no BANK.

I think your plan failed, as we are officers are TRAINED!!

[peps]

No 30k for all the hostages and what do you mean TRAINED just funny, I wouldnt tell anything now but still just to make the game more intresting do it a little bit more like in rl

[Thomas_Crof]

[...] intresting do it a little bit more like in rl

Funny...

As soon as the RP goes more like IRL style, most criminals start to moan. If cops get guns for free, just as armour, as IRL most criminals start complaining. That's why the server won't change style, everyone is used to the current style and if it's changed, moaning will start!

[Chase]

Do you really feel the need the moan? There are two things you can do to solve your problem: LET IT GO or... LEAVE.

You think we should give you money after taking a negotiator hostage?

Well..

LIFE IS NOT FAIR! Why the hell should a game be?

[Oliver Daniels]

you gt pwnt, boo-hoo.

[Wayne]

Second USA laws, negotiators cannot pay money to criminals in a hostage situation or high risk warrant service or terrorism.

[JaMeS Alterlis]

Look guys Im will not blame any one just Im intrested as you said James by kidnapping we cant get money? All the kidnap stuff doesnt give anything?

r u joking? haha  coz it's not funny. 

Are you saying that the Non-RP part is Cop won't give you the money? 
Ha...
Look,
Cop will NOT give you anything to the kidnapper/terrorist/etc.
IRL and IG!

We are RPing, not giving out you money is RP
Negotiating is RP
Locking down bank is RP
Storm in RP
Planning is RP

Your side?
Kidnapping is RP
Taking hostage is RP
Asking for money is RP

ONLY 3.
And with 1 thing that make it Non-RP is taking FBI Negotiator as hostage

[Bianconeri]

1. we are not allowed to pay money to kidnappers, unless there is no way to rescue hostages

2. as they all said, negotiator came to talk about the money, and you kidnap him then? not smart


but nexxt we are not trained for kidnappings 

kidnapping got a very small chance of succes anyway, its mostly for good RP not for the money

also as said above, kidnappers and all always do /exit while not even close to an exit,
i dont call that RP either
also there is nothing actually wrong with the situation of the cops, RP wise not
they failed to get hostages alive, thats the only fault