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Offline Oliver Daniels

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Reminder to all cops.
« on: August 26, 2010, 06:44:00 am »
ALWAYS take cover. Do NOT advance when you're clearly outgunned.

Myself and Kenny went on a two-hour long killing spree this morning, we killed about 8 cops and 9 FBI agents (Jose and Lenny kept returning after death) simply because they used little to no tactics.
It started off with Kenny and myself driving around Los Santos when we got the FBI on our tail - we took their cars out at first, then made a simple two-man roadblock and completely obliterated them (they had full armour and M4s/combats/snipers, we had armour and SMGs) with losing very little armour simply because they didn't even try to look for cover/stay alive. After killing them we go them on our tail yet again - we led them to the parking lot near the strip again again, obliterated them using a simple two-man defensive position. This time we lost NO armour and got called hackers by Jose and Lenny. After that we headed over to the SWAT training facility for yet another stand-off (this time only Jose and a cop called [ACSD]Bobby something returned after death) and again, killed them. We filled our health and armour up and headed to the second LV parking lot. This time loads of SAPD responded, killed Kenny and seriously maimed me - they used TACTICS and STAYED IN COVER. Result - Seriously injuring the criminals. I ended up surrendering after a brief chase through Bone County.

Many cops returned after death, though (Lennie, Jose, Bobby, Rabbit and two more guys) and that completely pissed me off. Of course, the FBI kept equipping themselves armour and M4, just charging back into the situation after death.
Right now all I saw was cops abusing the 'allowed to return after death' rule because MOST of them paid ABSOLUTELY NO ATTENTION to their health or if they died or not. I honestly believe it should be REMOVED once again since cops don't even CARE if they live or die. This is a bloody roleplay server, not a cops and robbers server.

Staying alive should be more important than killing/capturing a criminal.

P.S. This is not a moan, I had a lot of fun during all that and actually enjoyed myself.

Offline Kenny

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Re: Reminder to all cops.
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2010, 07:59:16 am »
Fun 2 hours

A simple tactic SRU uses which is to always take cover and work as a team could have saved your lifes and you wouldnt have died over 8 times returning with full armour and weapons. I would have though a freecop would know to take cover in those kind of situations

FBI Did it once occur to you guys to take cover instead of standing in the middle of the road shooting like you were immune to bullets? especially shooting at guys who are behind cover.

Although SAPD managed to kill me after atleast 8/9 attempts it was still disgracefull because [ACSD]Bobby it seemed like you didnt care to die, all you wanted was to shoot at us till we died...what happened to staying alive?? Dont be afraid to retreat especially if you are over powered.

Retired Captain..

Offline Syn

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Re: Reminder to all cops.
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2010, 13:59:16 pm »
Who Cares?

Offline Leroy Hudson

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Re: Reminder to all cops.
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2010, 14:20:10 pm »
Who Cares?

No offence, but people who post responses like these, are usually the ones who just jump out in the middle of the road while shooting, If you read deeper, They were giving you (Not just you), Some advice.. Take it sometime.

Offline Syn

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Re: Reminder to all cops.
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2010, 14:28:39 pm »
I play this game to have fun. Wether that means going up against a suspect who has an m4 wiht pepper spray. Or just blasting shots aimlessly while 4 Gvardia members combat me. I couldnt give a shit wether im all OMG spec opss cover double tap CQC. I play to have fun and wont stop.

Offline Leroy Hudson

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Re: Reminder to all cops.
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2010, 14:40:40 pm »
I play this game to have fun. Wether that means going up against a suspect who has an m4 wiht pepper spray. Or just blasting shots aimlessly while 4 Gvardia members combat me. I couldnt give a shit wether im all OMG spec opss cover double tap CQC. I play to have fun and wont stop.

Your opinion, is your opinion, No one is forcing you here. They are just giving you a suggestion, which would, give you more fun, The officer & Suspect which are engaging in combat, would both enjoy themselves, if you used tactics & Covering..

Offline Oliver Daniels

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Re: Reminder to all cops.
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2010, 15:11:27 pm »
I play this game to have fun. Wether that means going up against a suspect who has an m4 wiht pepper spray. Or just blasting shots aimlessly while 4 Gvardia members combat me. I couldnt give a shit wether im all OMG spec opss cover double tap CQC. I play to have fun and wont stop.

We play to have fun too, but we also play to -ROLEPLAY-. Last time I read the name it was Argonath ROLEPLAY not Argonath FUNSERVER.

Offline Syn

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Re: Reminder to all cops.
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2010, 15:16:56 pm »
I play this game to have fun. Wether that means going up against a suspect who has an m4 wiht pepper spray. Or just blasting shots aimlessly while 4 Gvardia members combat me. I couldnt give a shit wether im all OMG spec opss cover double tap CQC. I play to have fun and wont stop.

We play to have fun too, but we also play to -ROLEPLAY-. Last time I read the name it was Argonath ROLEPLAY not Argonath FUNSERVER.

That is ok. Fair Enough. I Respect that. I admit my first reply was abit dickheaded of me.

Offline Durfa

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Re: Reminder to all cops.
« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2010, 17:51:25 pm »
Hi my name is Jose,

I was there when you had this killing spree, and i don't appreciate how you mentioned us in your story. You didn't kill us 9 times, i would appreciate if you would change this.

Also, we do use tactics and obviously this night it wasn't showing. Please don't let the way we acted represent the FBI as a whole, because honestly we train quite a lot.

And we didn't abuse, and i my self can say i do care about my life. I too had fun and i give you two credits for your marksmanship skills are quite good.


Thanks,
Jose
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Offline SafetyMoose

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Re: Reminder to all cops.
« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2010, 18:25:05 pm »
I play this game to have fun. Wether that means going up against a suspect who has an m4 wiht pepper spray. Or just blasting shots aimlessly while 4 Gvardia members combat me. I couldnt give a shit wether im all OMG spec opss cover double tap CQC. I play to have fun and wont stop.

We play to have fun too, but we also play to -ROLEPLAY-. Last time I read the name it was Argonath ROLEPLAY not Argonath FUNSERVER.

you say your here to RP yet you just said you went on a 2 hour long killing spree.... not much RP there....
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Offline Chase

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Re: Reminder to all cops.
« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2010, 18:50:25 pm »
I agree that everyone should use the benefit of cover and military grade tactics... But you could have said it in a nicer way than smearing shit on FBI name.
"May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I sure as hell won't."

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Offline smey

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Re: Reminder to all cops.
« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2010, 19:03:18 pm »
Sounds like you had fun Oliver :D

Offline Oliver Daniels

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Re: Reminder to all cops.
« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2010, 19:37:43 pm »
I was there when you had this killing spree, and i don't appreciate how you mentioned us in your story. You didn't kill us 9 times, i would appreciate if you would change this.

Lennie two times, you four times - my bad, six instead of nine. (but we took your armour and health down without killing you one time and we took Lennie's car down two times, that's where the nine came from)

I agree that everyone should use the benefit of cover and military grade tactics... But you could have said it in a nicer way than smearing shit on FBI name.

To be completely honest that's all we saw since they were using /weaponequip, FBI skins and FBI vehicles.

you say your here to RP yet you just said you went on a 2 hour long killing spree.... not much RP there....

Yet the cops came after us, not the other way around. We roleplayed the shootouts, caring for our lives so just sod off.

Offline Cane

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Re: Reminder to all cops.
« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2010, 01:14:25 am »
you say your here to RP yet you just said you went on a 2 hour long killing spree.... not much RP there....

Serial killers. Ever heard of those lunatics? Yeah, the world has them.
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Offline Squeak

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Re: Reminder to all cops.
« Reply #14 on: August 27, 2010, 06:15:50 am »
Been there, done that. over 9000 times
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Sago

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Re: Reminder to all cops.
« Reply #15 on: August 27, 2010, 08:02:47 am »
Myself and Kenny went on a two-hour long killing spree this morning.

Sounded like you guys had a lot of fun!

From Banland,

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Offline Kenny

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Re: Reminder to all cops.
« Reply #16 on: August 28, 2010, 06:21:58 am »
Who Cares?

Grown man, this is not daycare
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Offline Wayne

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Re: Reminder to all cops.
« Reply #17 on: August 28, 2010, 06:35:16 am »
I belive cops on argonath are not suposed to be professional, this is directed for those who actually don't sit all day in computer.

Nor do i enforce professionalism on my duties, I use my skills and common sense instead.



There are another ways to improve SAPD, instead of killing whole cops and smashing your hands into their face to stamp "INCOMPETENCE" in their heads, how about start a project together with SAPD, in a way that involves whole SAPD, including cadets and chiefs?

it is easier kill cops, huh? :D By the way, fun is suposed to be the priority one on Argonath, nothing (except rules) stops you from having it. Good work.

Offline Syn

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Re: Reminder to all cops.
« Reply #18 on: August 29, 2010, 03:23:12 am »

Grown man, this is not daycare

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You could of fooled me.

Offline Joseph_Allen

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Re: Reminder to all cops.
« Reply #19 on: August 29, 2010, 06:32:17 am »

There are another ways to improve SAPD, instead of killing whole cops and smashing your hands into their face to stamp "INCOMPETENCE" in their heads, how about start a project together with SAPD, in a way that involves whole SAPD, including cadets and chiefs?


You know, SWAT has been giving some trainings with regards to tactics in combat situations.

Two examples I can mention:

Jay_Adams (before he resigned) gave some of us some training in CQB (Inside a building). He used the SWAT killhouse in LV as a venue. Each Trainee was given full armor, 60 SMG rounds; if you were to run out of armor you had to leave the killhouse. It was SWAT vs Trainees with SWAT posing as suspects and the trainees as the Police. First team to knock out all units of the other team wins. Let's just say it was fun.

More recently, Leroy gave a few of us some training as well. This time, we used the SWAT arena. The terrain was the opposite of the example above, wide forest with lots of cover (Think the RC arena in SP). Perfect for teaching wide area combat. This time, we were given 300 SMG rounds and same amount of armor and the same rules applied. We were divided into two teams, both ARPD. Again, it was a helluva lot of fun.

We should really have more trainings on this thing. If SWAT or ARPD decides to give us more training then +1 from me. Again, tactics + cover not only increase chances of survival. It makes shootouts more RP-like. Honestly, I think firefights should happen this way.

 

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