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Offline [WS]Mike

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Re: SA:MP | State your Situations, Questions & Ideas
« Reply #600 on: May 13, 2012, 01:15:36 am »
Howdy,

I was curious if "Speed Trapping" is allowed. From what I read, SAPD Protocol states that Officers can not suspect if the intent is to give a fine. In real life, if you were caught by a speed trap, you would just be ticked. Quoting the procedures "SAPD officers should never use the suspect command if their intention is to fine the citizen. SAPD command will not unsuspect for having paid a fine if the citizen is suspected by an SAPD officer." In Argonath, really the only option is to go to jail. While Section 6 only is referred to when pulling over someone, doesn't this apply to? Keep in mind, people are being thrown in jail for crazy times just for a traffic violation. Can I get some clarification on this?

Sincerely,
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Re: SA:MP | State your Situations, Questions & Ideas
« Reply #601 on: May 13, 2012, 01:20:23 am »
I'm not currently in the SAPD, however, having previously been in the SAPD for a length of time, I feel qualified enough to answer.

If you catch a player speeding, and you wish to pull them over, you chase them, come behind them, and ask them to pull over. If they pull over, then fine, give them a ticket, warn them or whatever, but if they try to escape, you suspect them for evading/reckless driving or similar.

Players are not generally jailed just for traffic violations, it is the evading after the violation that gets them jailed.

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Re: SA:MP | State your Situations, Questions & Ideas
« Reply #602 on: May 13, 2012, 01:22:21 am »
I'm not currently in the SAPD, however, having previously been in the SAPD for a length of time, I feel qualified enough to answer.

If you catch a player speeding, and you wish to pull them over, you chase them, come behind them, and ask them to pull over. If they pull over, then fine, give them a ticket, warn them or whatever, but if they try to escape, you suspect them for evading/reckless driving or similar.

Players are not generally jailed just for traffic violations, it is the evading after the violation that gets them jailed.
I was refering to "Speed Trapping". When I say this I mean sitting at an intersection and /SU'ing anyone who speeds without warning.
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Re: SA:MP | State your Situations, Questions & Ideas
« Reply #603 on: May 13, 2012, 09:43:58 am »
I'm not currently in the SAPD, however, having previously been in the SAPD for a length of time, I feel qualified enough to answer.

If you catch a player speeding, and you wish to pull them over, you chase them, come behind them, and ask them to pull over. If they pull over, then fine, give them a ticket, warn them or whatever, but if they try to escape, you suspect them for evading/reckless driving or similar.

Players are not generally jailed just for traffic violations, it is the evading after the violation that gets them jailed.
I was refering to "Speed Trapping". When I say this I mean sitting at an intersection and /SU'ing anyone who speeds without warning.

It's not allowed.. you must try to pull him over.

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Re: SA:MP | State your Situations, Questions & Ideas
« Reply #604 on: May 13, 2012, 20:27:54 pm »
With respect, fellas, you shouldn't really be answering the questions on here. The main post states the rules.
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Re: SA:MP | State your Situations, Questions & Ideas
« Reply #605 on: May 14, 2012, 09:04:36 am »
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I do believe this is clear enough for everyone..
Regardless if you are or were in SAPD for 50 years, you may not give answers.

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Re: SA:MP | State your Situations, Questions & Ideas
« Reply #606 on: May 14, 2012, 16:30:06 pm »
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Only Captain and Above gives answer

I do believe this is clear enough for everyone..
Regardless if you are or were in SAPD for 50 years, you may not give answers.

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Re: SA:MP | State your Situations, Questions & Ideas
« Reply #607 on: May 28, 2012, 19:34:48 pm »
If you see a civillian deathmatching, provoking, insulting or copbaiting, can we use all of the following options?

-Suspect them and report them and try to take them down

-Only report them as if they're breaking the server rules instead of the law

-Only suspect them as if they're breaking the law instead of server rules

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Re: SA:MP | State your Situations, Questions & Ideas
« Reply #608 on: June 02, 2012, 05:58:36 am »

-Suspect them and report them and try to take them down

Not really.


-Only report them as if they're breaking the server rules instead of the law

Depends, if they are doing in intentionally against you in a non RP way.


-Only suspect them as if they're breaking the law instead of server rules

Indeed. If they are deathmatching in a roleplay way, then by all means do suspect them. Same goes to insulting or provoking in friendly way. That does not include cop-baiting though.

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Re: SA:MP | State your Situations, Questions & Ideas
« Reply #609 on: June 02, 2012, 17:56:00 pm »
So I guess that means this topic is outdated then?

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Re: SA:MP | State your Situations, Questions & Ideas
« Reply #610 on: June 14, 2012, 15:16:25 pm »
What is the actual difference between [SA:MP] SAPD Cadet and [SA:MP] Academy Cadet ranks?
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Re: SA:MP | State your Situations, Questions & Ideas
« Reply #611 on: June 14, 2012, 16:16:22 pm »
What is the actual difference between [SA:MP] SAPD Cadet and [SA:MP] Academy Cadet ranks?

[SA:MP] Academy Cadet is the only rank existing in the usergroups for Cadets, [SA:MP] SAPD Cadet does not exist, however some may use it as their personal text in order to seperate if they work in an other department.

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I do believe this is clear enough for everyone.. Regardless if you are or were in SAPD for 50 years, you may not give answers.
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Offline Huntsman

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Re: SA:MP | State your Situations, Questions & Ideas
« Reply #612 on: June 15, 2012, 09:23:52 am »
Another question:

What is the actual point of tagging your application with [AWAY], because i see applicants all around getting denied for inactivity even if they had their application tagged and reported inactivity..?

ALSO

Do i make my patrol reports only in my desk, or my desk, Application and the Cadet HQ as well?
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Offline Jason Bridges

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Re: SA:MP | State your Situations, Questions & Ideas
« Reply #613 on: June 30, 2012, 00:35:05 am »
Here are some situations that haven't been clarified in SAPD procedures and and guides:

-Are police officers allowed to car jack suspects?

-If a civilian points a firearm at you, can you instantly open fire on them?

-Is verbal assault a crime, or just against the server rules?

-When are you allowed deny a suspect an investigation? (i.e. if you and your partner have witnessed them murder someone)

-How many warnings should you issue to someone before you arrest them for failing to comply?

-If a suspect wanted for murder asked for an investigation and the player they killed is no longer on line, is he jailed or unsuspected?

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Re: SA:MP | State your Situations, Questions & Ideas
« Reply #614 on: June 30, 2012, 17:28:11 pm »
Here are some situations that haven't been clarified in SAPD procedures and and guides:

-Are police officers allowed to car jack suspects?

-If a civilian points a firearm at you, can you instantly open fire on them?

-Is verbal assault a crime, or just against the server rules?

-When are you allowed deny a suspect an investigation? (i.e. if you and your partner have witnessed them murder someone)

-How many warnings should you issue to someone before you arrest them for failing to comply?

-If a suspect wanted for murder asked for an investigation and the player they killed is no longer on line, is he jailed or unsuspected?

1 - Police officer pursuing a suspect are allowed to remove the suspect from the vehicle if they fail to co-operate. Remember only suspects who fail to listen to your orders can be forced from their vehicle by the officer.

2 - Once a firearm is pointed at you, then immediately draw your weapon and point it at them, call for backup and talk the civilian to lower his weapon. Do not open fire unless your life or the life of other person close to you is in danger.

3 - Remember to always give a verbal warning but if the offender insist on verbally assaulting then this is a valid crime on which he can be prosecuted for.

4 - If you are absolutely sure and their is no doubt in your mind that this person has committed the crime and you have witnessed it then you can deny the suspect an investigation. You do not need to check up on something that you and your partner have witnessed, for example suspect A shooting at you and later demands investigation. Feel free to deny it...

5 - In this kind of situation you will need to keep calm and be patient. The person you maybe dealing with could be old, hard-hearing or just slow. So you will need to explain to them the situation clearly and tell them the consequence if they do not comply. You should try to make them understand the situation and not how many warnings you issued to them, after that i suggest you do not waste any more time of your police work and proceed with arresting them.

6 - Do your due diligence and carry out the investigation. If the circumstances permits it for example the suspect denies murder and claims man slaughter and he gave himself up willingly instead of being hunted down by police then you may jail them for minimum time. However if the suspect claims hes innocent yet he still run from the police then you can clear determine his omission to guilt and give him your desired sentence. again issuing sentence varies from one officer to another.

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Re: SA:MP | State your Situations, Questions & Ideas
« Reply #615 on: July 03, 2012, 18:45:04 pm »
idea1: SAPD should get paid every month due to the hard work and risking for their life.
Idea2:Sapd should hold live reuciment.

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Re: SA:MP | State your Situations, Questions & Ideas
« Reply #616 on: July 03, 2012, 21:42:37 pm »
idea1: SAPD should get paid every month due to the hard work and risking for their life.

Suggested millions times, denied millions times.


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Re: SA:MP | State your Situations, Questions & Ideas
« Reply #617 on: July 03, 2012, 22:25:13 pm »
Can you deny an investigation if the suspect evaded?
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Re: SA:MP | State your Situations, Questions & Ideas
« Reply #618 on: July 03, 2012, 22:34:16 pm »
Idea: SAPD should give "investigation" or processing to determine the motive of the crime regardless of the crime, unless player asks for quick jail or insufficient time is available.
Rather than "I saw you murder a guy, I wont investigate" it should be "why would this person murder someone" "why would he evade cops?" etc.
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Re: SA:MP | State your Situations, Questions & Ideas
« Reply #619 on: July 04, 2012, 00:02:41 am »
Howdy,

I was curious if "Speed Trapping" is allowed. From what I read, SAPD Protocol states that Officers can not suspect if the intent is to give a fine. In real life, if you were caught by a speed trap, you would just be ticked. Quoting the procedures "SAPD officers should never use the suspect command if their intention is to fine the citizen. SAPD command will not unsuspect for having paid a fine if the citizen is suspected by an SAPD officer." In Argonath, really the only option is to go to jail. While Section 6 only is referred to when pulling over someone, doesn't this apply to? Keep in mind, people are being thrown in jail for crazy times just for a traffic violation. Can I get some clarification on this?

Sincerely,
Mike Sangelo
This is still not answered by a captain +, anyone?
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