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Offline Huntsman

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Re: Firemen speeding around in unmarked sports cars
« Reply #20 on: August 04, 2014, 10:45:53 am »
When Argonath Traffic Police was still a thing (the real one, not the fake one that was recently made and closed), I would always find myself and my team pulling over and instructing firemen in unmarked civilian vehicles speeding to the fire scene that they must use an emergency vehicles with lights and sirens equipped and turned on if their response includes bypassing traffic laws. This always was an issue.
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Re: Firemen speeding around in unmarked sports cars
« Reply #21 on: August 12, 2014, 04:26:52 am »
Hopeless situation.
The real criminals are right under our noses and we are unable to do a thing because of our ill prepared legal system.

I say the Chief just announces those speeding around in unmarked cars for no reason should be kill on sight.
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Re: Firemen speeding around in unmarked sports cars
« Reply #22 on: August 12, 2014, 13:44:32 pm »
I say the Chief just announces those speeding around in unmarked cars for no reason should be kill on sight.
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I say you serious up at once.
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Re: Firemen speeding around in unmarked sports cars
« Reply #23 on: August 12, 2014, 15:18:26 pm »
I remember you telling everyone via the radio to stop doing it Dean / Monte, at the time of the event, a lot of the AV members and applicants where in fact the ones on duty I myself also was. I told them to start using engines and 90% of them in fact did go on and use the required vehicles.

But sometimes you cannot stop it, because the sight of money for some people makes them go crazy there was loads of events the other day when fire fighters where spraying each other in order to get more money from the fire missions. What I am trying to say is no matter how much you try this behaviour will not stop, unless the police spent nearly all their day watching the firefighters. The only way I can think this can be resolved, is bringing in a "fireman ban" sort of like the "cop ban" this will then prevent rule breakers on duty because if the PD cannot do it what gives the FD the right to continue and do it.

I just hope we can resolve this issue at once because it seems to be coming up a lot, I remember talking to Rusty about it before.

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Re: Firemen speeding around in unmarked sports cars
« Reply #24 on: August 13, 2014, 11:25:14 am »
Get all the SAPD officers driving cruisers first, then worry about other factions.
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Re: Firemen speeding around in unmarked sports cars
« Reply #25 on: August 13, 2014, 12:03:58 pm »
Get all the SAPD officers driving cruisers first, then worry about other factions.

Well, as somoene who's not part of SAPD I have so far seen SAPD officers using only SAPD Cruisers.
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Re: Firemen speeding around in unmarked sports cars
« Reply #26 on: August 13, 2014, 13:27:05 pm »
Get all the SAPD officers driving cruisers first, then worry about other factions.

Well, as somoene who's not part of SAPD I have so far seen SAPD officers using only SAPD Cruisers.
Well glad you don't see it but there are plenty of officers still not driving marked vehicles.

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Re: Firemen speeding around in unmarked sports cars
« Reply #27 on: August 13, 2014, 14:27:13 pm »
Well glad you don't see it but there are plenty of officers still not driving marked vehicles.

Winds me up, and when they attempt to pull people over in unmarked cars is even worse.

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Re: Firemen speeding around in unmarked sports cars
« Reply #28 on: August 13, 2014, 16:18:13 pm »
Well glad you don't see it but there are plenty of officers still not driving marked vehicles.

Winds me up, and when they attempt to pull people over in unmarked cars is even worse.
Well pull over and engage people you mean...

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Re: Firemen speeding around in unmarked sports cars
« Reply #29 on: August 14, 2014, 02:00:17 am »
It's a phenomenon that constantly repeats itself and must have a quick solution.
It's annoying to see firemen speeding in sports car that later when getting pulled over them beg me to forgive them and let them go, because there is a mission.

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Re: Firemen speeding around in unmarked sports cars
« Reply #30 on: August 14, 2014, 11:33:02 am »
We have to stop the cops from using unmarked cars then we can talk about firefighters....

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Re: Firemen speeding around in unmarked sports cars
« Reply #31 on: August 14, 2014, 11:35:41 am »
We have to stop the cops from using unmarked cars then we can talk about firefighters....
From 100 cops, 1-2 might use unmarked vehicle because they're not aware of rules.
Others might be returning to station.

From 100 firemen, 95 are using unmarked vehicles.
Other 5 are using firetrucks because they can't afford to buy personal vehicle.
   
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Re: Firemen speeding around in unmarked sports cars
« Reply #32 on: August 14, 2014, 12:43:40 pm »
We have to stop the cops from using unmarked cars then we can talk about firefighters....
From 100 cops, 1-2 might use unmarked vehicle because they're not aware of rules.
Others might be returning to station.

From 100 firemen, 95 are using unmarked vehicles.
Other 5 are using firetrucks because they can't afford to buy personal vehicle.
Nope.

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Re: Firemen speeding around in unmarked sports cars
« Reply #33 on: August 14, 2014, 18:31:17 pm »
We have to stop the cops from using unmarked cars then we can talk about firefighters....
From 100 cops, 1-2 might use unmarked vehicle because they're not aware of rules.
Others might be returning to station.

From 100 firemen, 95 are using unmarked vehicles.
Other 5 are using firetrucks because they can't afford to buy personal vehicle.
Nope.
Indeed there are much more officers using unmarked vehxiles each day and no they are NOT returning to station so my advice focus on the PD first as officer then bother the FD as the FD command has to handle this just like the SAPD does

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Re: Firemen speeding around in unmarked sports cars
« Reply #34 on: August 14, 2014, 19:45:58 pm »
Rarely see any Officer using unmarked vehicles during the time am online (19:00 > whenever).  If people are using them it's those unaware of the regulation, so simply let them know and we won't have a problem.  If it's someone who hlds rank of Probationary Officer+ then you can file a report on them.

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Re: Firemen speeding around in unmarked sports cars
« Reply #35 on: August 14, 2014, 22:13:20 pm »
Well, you see, SAPD Officers are restricted by SAPD Regulations and Procedures, because they apply to them as well and even someone who doesn't hold a probationary officer rank can get punished for violation of these procedures, and they clearly say that they must use a marked vehicle. Firemen, however, are a different story. SAFD has authority only over SAFD Applicants and members and we have no authority over volunteer medics and firemen. Our procedures and regulations apply only to SAFD due to server rules and lack of support towards SAFD from the server management in particular, therefore the only thing that restricts these guys are traffic tickets for speeding in a non emergency vehicle with no lights and sirens on...
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Re: Firemen speeding around in unmarked sports cars
« Reply #36 on: August 14, 2014, 23:01:32 pm »
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