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Offline Huntsman

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Change in policy regarding weapon use
« on: April 28, 2018, 16:04:31 pm »

Vice City Police Department
Office of High Command
Desk of Chief of Police
Desk of Deputy Chief of Police
Gabriel "Huntsman" Adams and DaniGold

High Command Decree

Effective: 29th April, 2018



To begin with, we would like to mention that this change in policy has been discussed and agreed in among both VCPD Command and the Server Management previously, but for due to certain reasons was not implemented. Recent on-goings, and, in our belief, use of excessive force, has forced us to consider implementing this decree once again.

From 29th April, 2018, use of Assault Rifles, Sniper Rifles, SPAZ or Stubby Shotguns by those members of the Vice City Police Department that are not part of the Vice City Police Department's Special Weapons and Tactics division will be prohibited without authorization from a Sergeant or above. Use of these weapons without the mentioned authorization will be considered as excessive use of force and punished accordingly.

We have taken such decision in the light of officers buying or otherwise acquiring heavy weaponry and using them on suspects that do not match criteria for heavy weaponry. The loophole that was created without such policy in place often resulted in M4 and other assault rifles that are only sanctioned to use in situations requiring armed and tactical response being used on suspects that are evading in vehicles but do not meet a SWAT engagement criteria (bounty below 9 and etc.). In response to this, we've decided to take action.

This decree does not regulate the use of Sub-machineguns, such as MP5, that are allowed for use without authorisation.

As a result of this decree, the VCPD Procedures and Regulations have been changed accordingly:
Section 10: Weapon Procedures
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10.9. VCPD Officers who are not members of the Special Weapons and Tactics division and are not on the said duty are prohibited from using Assault Rifles, Sniper Rifles, SPAZ and Stubby shotguns or any other gear that is not included in their standart duty issue without authorization from Command Staff, except for sub-machine guns, such as MP5, which are allowed to be used without regulation.

Signed,

Chief of Police Gabriel Adams
Deputy Chief of Police DaniGold
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Re: Change in policy regarding weapon use
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2018, 16:20:49 pm »
Does this include smuggles? Sometimes I use a sniper rifle and no one complained about this and said it was exsessive force.

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Re: Change in policy regarding weapon use
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2018, 16:27:30 pm »
I didn't quite get it, can we use assault rifles on armed suspects and suspects in vehicles?

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Re: Change in policy regarding weapon use
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2018, 16:30:32 pm »
I didn't quite get it, can we use assault rifles on armed suspects and suspects in vehicles?
From what i understood is that we cannot use any assault rifles at all, unless on SWAT duty.

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Re: Change in policy regarding weapon use
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2018, 16:42:33 pm »
I didn't quite get it, can we use assault rifles on armed suspects and suspects in vehicles?
From what i understood is that we cannot use any assault rifles at all, unless on SWAT duty.

He understands correctly.

Does this include smuggles? Sometimes I use a sniper rifle and no one complained about this and said it was exsessive force.

You need authorization from a Sergeant or above. This procedure does not have exceptions.
The off the record reasoning is that we're also noticing a great downgrade in shotgun-combat among officers, who have started preferring use of M4, SPAZ and Stubby. This is also implemented to encourage people to master standart duty gear before they move on to better weapons, which they can do when they become SWAT.
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Re: Change in policy regarding weapon use
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2018, 16:44:12 pm »
I didn't quite get it, can we use assault rifles on armed suspects and suspects in vehicles?
From what i understood is that we cannot use any assault rifles at all, unless on SWAT duty.

He understands correctly.
If sergeant+ approves it, then we can use those weapons, right?

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Re: Change in policy regarding weapon use
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2018, 16:44:29 pm »
I didn't quite get it, can we use assault rifles on armed suspects and suspects in vehicles?
From what i understood is that we cannot use any assault rifles at all, unless on SWAT duty.

He understands correctly.
If sergeant+ approves it, then we can use those weapons, right?
Yes
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Re: Change in policy regarding weapon use
« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2018, 17:21:41 pm »
A good step taken, it will surely increase the knowledge of standard weaponry usage & the officers will master with it. Remember always, chrome shotgun is the most powerful weapon in entire VCMP, only if you know how to use it.

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Re: Change in policy regarding weapon use
« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2018, 16:27:11 pm »
Yeah shotgun is great, but I found rifles were the best for intercepting car tires at high speeds that's why I used it

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Re: Change in policy regarding weapon use
« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2018, 18:50:43 pm »
Can we use rifles to disable vehicles only?

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Re: Change in policy regarding weapon use
« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2018, 16:56:12 pm »
Can we use rifles to disable vehicles only?

I am pretty sure Dani will continue this policy as it is something we both saw needed.
No, the policy is very clear. There are no "buts" or "if's" . One of the goals of the policy was exactly this. You can use MP5 which is just as effective.
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Re: Change in policy regarding weapon use
« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2018, 21:49:59 pm »
don’t forget that you also can get permission to use a rifle from a command staff member, which hopefully soon we will have more of these.
Thats a charge.

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Re: Change in policy regarding weapon use
« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2018, 01:11:23 am »
don’t forget that you also can get permission to use a rifle from a command staff member, which hopefully soon we will have more of these.
Looking for forward to that! :leroy2:

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