Argonath RPG Police Department
GTA: San Andreas => SA:MP Complaints Desk => SAPD Information Center => [SA:MP] Closed Complaints => Topic started by: James_Colombo on February 12, 2013, 20:26:11 pm
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Directed to: SAPD authority.
SAPD Officer Policy violators:
1. GeorgeF - He jailed me (James_Colombo) and Gravity_Colombo when we clearly asked for an investigation. Officer [AAF]Bradley is our witness he was with us when i asked it. I also informed [WS]Omar_Aly about this. I got some SS but i think they don't prove much. I also got the chat-logs which maybe helps. I actually really depend on [AAF]Bradley to help me.
2. Officer's Department - Don't know, he logged off after this soon.
a. http://imgur.com/5lKegFo (http://imgur.com/5lKegFo)
http://imgur.com/Mg1nsKz (http://imgur.com/Mg1nsKz)
http://imgur.com/7Yuhq6e (http://imgur.com/7Yuhq6e)
b. Other evidence..
Date: 12/01/2013
Time: 19:53 + -
Civillian(s) involved:
Gravity_Colombo
James_Colombo
Signed
James Colombo
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Confirmed.
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I am Sgt mega and i will handle this report. Can you ask your witness to provide a more detailed statement and can you ask the accused officer if he could post his story.
I also have one question, a screenshot shows you asking to be investigated while in the jail cell yet the logs say you said this before you were jailed. I am a little confused i would like some clarification please
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I am Sgt mega and i will handle this report. Can you ask your witness to provide a more detailed statement and can you ask the accused officer if he could post his story.
I also have one question, a screenshot shows you asking to be investigated while in the jail cell yet the logs say you said this before you were jailed. I am a little confused i would like some clarification please
Dear Sgt mega, first of all i want to thank you for handling this report. I have looked for GeorgeF in game but i couldn't find him after the incident. I will ask my witness to provide a more detailed statement. About your question: I made the SS when i was jailed but it were the chatlogs from before i got jailed, because i couldn't know that i would be jailed so my only hope was to make a SS of the moment when he told this to me. However you can ask Bradley if GeorgeF was with us at the moment. He was for me and normally Bradley can confirm that.
Regards, James Colombo
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Thanks for the explanation, will wait for further statements
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Witness Statement: [AAF]Bradley
After responding to a backup call, James and Gravity were suspects in bayside. They surrendered as I approached them so I cuffed them and took them back to El Quebrados PD, upon arriving GeorgeF had landed his helicopter and came over to assist. James stopped and asked if I could investigate him and I said "Ill see what I can do". So he followed me into the police station, but as I /entered, I crashed, upon logging back in James was unhappy to have been jailed without an investigation. I couldn't do anything else except be slightly annoyed that someone stole my suspects.
Later on GeorgeF Pmed me saying "on your patrol report later add two extra suspects because I jailed yours".
WIll answer any questions.
B.Hood
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Thanks for the full statement, Report transfered to Sgt Aly at his request.
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Can you ask GeorgeF to post here?
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Can you ask GeorgeF to post here?
I can't find him in game, i also asked other people if they saw him but they didn't. I hope i will find him soon.
Regards, James Colombo
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Hello.My name is GeorgeF.
Just before a few minutes I was messaged in game by someone named James_Colombo.The purpose of his message was clear.He wanted me to reply here in a report carrying my name.At first I did not realise what was it about but after reading posts here I remembered the situation.Well as I know the SWAT got suspects at Bayside arrested.I did not pay much attention but I headed to EQ sherriff office for a new bike since my old one was damaged.When I arrived I saw an ARPD officer with 2 suspects,both surrendered.
At the scene was a civilian part of known criminal group.Just in case I stayed there to observe because you never know.He could have killed the officer.When I walked there one of the 2 suspects was standing still.I told him to follow the officer in a polite way. He indeed moved. Then I followed him inside the station.Everything good so far.I was inside.However I could not see the officer anywhere.I typed his area and saw he was not online.So I though he quit and instead I jailed the suspects.I left.While I was trying to arrest a suspect at Bayside officer Omar Aly asked me whether these 2 guys had requested investigation.And they hadn't.It is true.I don't know if they requested one from the other offficer but I never saw in PM or /l or any other form of chat any request.I checked my chat again.Nothing.So I just kept up my life.
Now from what I see somebody wants me punished for not giving him an investigation.You see I am not oblidged to give one if I am not asked to.You did not ask for one,no other ARPD officer requested I handled you,giving investigation.If you can proove the opposite then I will have to get punished.But since I am speaking the truth I have nothing to be afraid of. The validity of my sayings could also be confirmed by server logs on my chat.
Signed sincerely,
GeorgeF.
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James, do you have any evidance that you asked officer Geroge to investgate you?
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Hello.My name is GeorgeF.
Just before a few minutes I was messaged in game by someone named James_Colombo.The purpose of his message was clear.He wanted me to reply here in a report carrying my name.At first I did not realise what was it about but after reading posts here I remembered the situation.Well as I know the SWAT got suspects at Bayside arrested.I did not pay much attention but I headed to EQ sherriff office for a new bike since my old one was damaged.When I arrived I saw an ARPD officer with 2 s
uspects,both surrendered.
At the scene was a civilian part of known criminal group.Just in case I stayed there to observe because you never know.He could have killed the officer.When I walked there one of the 2 suspects was standing still.I told him to follow the officer in a polite way. He indeed moved. Then I followed him inside the station.Everything good so far.I was inside.However I could not see the officer anywhere.I typed his area and saw he was not online.So I though he quit and instead I jailed the suspects.I left.While I was trying to arrest a suspect at Bayside officer Omar Aly asked me whether these 2 guys had requested investigation.And they hadn't.It is true.I don't know if they requested one from the other offficer but I never saw in PM or /l or any other form of chat any request.I checked my chat again.Nothing.So I just kept up my life.
Now from what I see somebody wants me punished for not giving him an investigation.You see I am not oblidged to give one if I am not asked to.You did not ask for one,no other ARPD officer requested I handled you,giving investigation.If you can proove the opposite then I will have to get punished.But since I am speaking the truth I have nothing to be afraid of. The validity of my sayings could also be confirmed by server logs on my chat.
Signed sincerely,
GeorgeF.
Thank you for responding. In my eyes i see a bunch of lies. First off all, you are contradicting yourself by first saying that we surrendered ( thats true) and than saying that you stayed because we could kill the officer. = impossible if you surrendered. Secund you were clearly with us when i asked aaf benson for an investigation, you can also see that in the chatlogs. Third: You immidiatly jailed us when we entered what means that you kept the command ready before we even entered. Also you didnt had the right to jail us and if you were seeing that benson left you could atleast have waited 1 min till he could possible go back (what also happend).
And Omar: No i asked for an investigation, benson would do it,George was standing next to us and he heard everything.
Regards, James Colombo
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So, do you have any evidance George knew you wanted an investgation, can you ask Benson to post his witness statment here?
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He already did. Anyway i will ask him again to make a statement here.
Regards, James Colombo
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Well to be precise I want him to approve that George heard your request for an investgation.
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Any news?
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No i didn't saw Benson in game, i can't play from Monday till Friday, i will ask some friends to go seek for him.
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By Benson I think he meant me, Bradley, and I have already made a statement although I will add, that from where I was standing, George was close enough to have heard James /say, "can you give me an investigation". (or something along those lines). But I have no proof and cannot confirm this.
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Thank you Bradley
Regards,James Colombo
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George, do you have anything to say about that?
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Conculsion is to be made soon, anyone having anything to add must do so within 48 hours.
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Nothing to add anymore i guess.
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As Sergeant Omar is currently away for technical reasons, I will assist in the investigation of this report.
From what I have gathered so far, two suspects were taken to EQPD from Bayside to be processed by Officer Bradley and GeorgeF. Officer Bradley crashed and I believe that Officer George would have been near enough at the time to hear that you requested an investigation. You two, under the pretense of getting an investigation followed the officer believing he was going to investigate you, instead he jailed you just 5 seconds after entering the building.
Officer GeorgeF has yet to make a statement about being near enough to hear that you requested an investigation and it seems as though he was more concerned with jailing you than due process.
Will proceed on the 4th of March, 2013 regardless of reported officer's statement.
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As Sergeant Omar is currently away for technical reasons, I will assist in the investigation of this report.
From what I have gathered so far, two suspects were taken to EQPD from Bayside to be processed by Officer Bradley and GeorgeF. Officer Bradley crashed and I believe that Officer George would have been near enough at the time to hear that you requested an investigation. You two, under the pretense of getting an investigation followed the officer believing he was going to investigate you, instead he jailed you just 5 seconds after entering the building.
Officer GeorgeF has yet to make a statement about being near enough to hear that you requested an investigation and it seems as though he was more concerned with jailing you than due process.
Will proceed on the 4th of March, 2013 regardless of reported officer's statement.
Exactly this, i'm looking forwards to it.
Regards, James Colombo
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George, do you have anything to say about that?
Excuse my delay I have been away for some time.Reading the rest of the post since the last time I visited this topic I only have to add that I am being accused of not providing an investigation although I was supposed to know about it.To be honest nobody told me that this man wanted an investigation.When I arrived nobody was speaking about investigations.One suspect must have been inside the PD.The other was outside.I just went there to ensure that the proccess would be done smoothly.
I did not see any proof of James asking an investigation from me or generally asking for one while I was near.
And I believe there is no such proof because I am speaking the truth.
Signed.
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George, do you have anything to say about that?
Excuse my delay I have been away for some time.Reading the rest of the post since the last time I visited this topic I only have to add that I am being accused of not providing an investigation although I was supposed to know about it.To be honest nobody told me that this man wanted an investigation.When I arrived nobody was speaking about investigations.One suspect must have been inside the PD.The other was outside.I just went there to ensure that the proccess would be done smoothly.
I did not see any proof of James asking an investigation from me or generally asking for one while I was near.
And I believe there is no such proof because I am speaking the truth.
Signed.
Dear GeorgeF,
I do have 2 witnesses and a chatlog as evidence.
Regards, James Colombo
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According to the other officers timeline, you had arrived at the PD already when they had asked for an investigation. Along with this, why did you think it was okay to immediately jail two suspects that were in the custody of another officer?
Were you present at the initial arrest at Bayside as well?
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Were you present at the initial arrest at Bayside as well?
That is a negative. His first interaction was at EQPD as stated before.
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Were you present at the initial arrest at Bayside as well?
That is a negative. His first interaction was at EQPD as stated before.
Another question. Was officer GeorgeF within earshot when the suspects asked for an investigation?
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Due to failure of the accusing side to provide response, this report is now considered invalid and closed.
No actions taken.