New SAPD Awarding system - 2011!

[GiacJr]

You left, and no longer are welcomed to give your constant unnecessary, fight provoking commentary. Failure to shut your big mouth will result in a forum ban. - Your best friend.

Totally disagree, Captain Leroy Hudson actually fulfills his duty and roles. If you had such permission to CURRENTLY view his work you would admire it. Your putting someone down, criticizing someone wrong way, understand authentication of his Rank and remember it was also you in that rank previously and how others looked at your performance. He's managing a whole Department, responsibility is not irrelevant, something huge- like load of sandbags in your head. He is one of the best Captain seen so far..

About merit system, it's totally perfect. It's to see if Officers fulfills there duties as it refers from SAPD Regulations and Administration that you patrol when on duty. Merit system gives officer encouragements to do more activities with'in his department and merit award actually pays officers commission (RP) as they would in the real life.

You left, and no longer are welcomed to give your constant unnecessary, fight provoking commentary. Failure to shut your big mouth will result in a forum ban. - Your best friend.

[Sushi]

I'm going to simply go around all the arguments and say I agree with Matt; that the old system simply worked. Although it was not foolproof from many things, in a way this system will perhaps be more flawed, but that only way to tell will be time and of course if it does explode in our faces.

Going against my previous statement, yes Giac does know what his talking about and in a way I agree. Kissing arse should not be a factor in getting to places, doing a damned good job wherever you are in the World should be the thing that moves you up the ladder.

[Joseph_Allen]

           Disregarding the arguments stated before, I'm gonna say that the Merit System for Community Policing and the M Service Award is a good move. It serves as an indicator of who is actually working hard.

            However, I agree with Sushi in that it's the Command staff's decision whether a person is deserving of a medal or not.

           All I'm sayin' is that the Command Staff should still be the power to deciding if a person gets an award. The Merit system should just give them an indication of who's deserving.

           Now, with regards to the argument raging on. I'm just gonna say that this Merit system should NOT inhibit Officers from being awarded if ever they were deserving of it. I also agree with Giac on the whole "patrolling with your men" way of doing things. Builds Departmental teamwork.

           Just think of it this way, there's no such thing as a free meal and one can't get something without working hard for it.

[[R*]EliteTerm]

I've had reserved thoughts about the new system. GiacJr and the others explained the important of being in the field with the members, not relying on reports.

If Command is inactive and cannot check its members, then it's time to replace them. Select the best candidates (Senior Officers+ or request another Department to send one of their Command members) and train them to fully replace the inactive member.

I'm not trying to be offensive, but if there's an inactive Command, the Department will get disorganized. They have to be on the field to build Department relations to the fullest.

[Nicholas Baker]

You left, and no longer are welcomed to give your constant unnecessary, fight provoking commentary. Failure to shut your big mouth will result in a forum ban. - Your best friend.

Why are you even commenting on this? You left the community. why do you care?

Leroy Fullfills his job Exactly how it should be. Every single department Observes his members.
This Merit system is to Prevent to oversee An officers work. Please find a Command staff wich plays around the clock. i guess u wont find one. Some departments has members wich have a TOTAL Different timezone. For example We had Ex- SAPD Member Joseph Allen wich was online from 20:00 - 6:00 Server time. Because he lives in the Phillipines. We cannot see all of his work only a part.
So we also see that he does his job by Reports wich are being awarded by Merits.

Merits are also a chance to earn some additional money, Officers can get money (In our department) for: Assignments, Merit awards (Dispatch, Assignment merits, Training merits and Patrol merits).

Dont think we rely on the merits only, Infact Merits are looked at last.

[Leroy Hudson]

You left, and no longer are welcomed to give your constant unnecessary, fight provoking commentary. Failure to shut your big mouth will result in a forum ban. - Your best friend.

You obviously haven't read at all. Please spot one area where we've said we'll judge the entire performance based off reports, you fail to recognize that referring to something when making a decision is different to relying on something when doing so.
 
''Judging performance based on reports'' - It seems I have to answer the same question over and over again. What is the point of the system? Not so the Command Staff can egotistically go inactive and put their faith and trust in this system.

The Merit system, is a system the LVPD uses as a 'reference' to see how Officers are doing on the forum / during in game. Points are rewarded for certain things, such as Patrol reports, Dispatch reports, desk assignments. We do not use the Merit system as a prime reference to award/promote during ceremonies, but as a sort of 'back up' data about the work of each Officer.

Please read the words underlined, if thats manageable enough for you to do. As you see nothing has changed from the Awarding system, this is an additional feature to show that even when Command Staff is not online (And you talk about a 'robotic' system, I do not believe Command Staff is robotic enough to be playing twenty four seven, seven days a week)  the Officers can expect to be praised and seen for their work, this isn't an excuse to go inactive and leave your members aimlessly doing police work while you sit back relying on some system made up of a couple of sentences to handle the awarding and judgement of your Officers.

''I know what I'm talking about'' - You obviously do not, as you simply skimmed over the topic and made up a hypothesis and then implying that the SAPD Leaders have made some sort of 'robotic' system which kills your so called 'Shoot everything that moves' kind of fun. So in the end if you were so 'high' and 'mighty' yourself, how did you end up being 'pressurized' (as you would say) into resigning, obviously lack of results seen from you.

Moving on, ''Being told to do SAPD <Rank> work'' - Why do you think you were 'Criticized' as you seem to think? Did you think every person who told you to do so was wrong? Obviously not. You seem to pick up a 'so called' problem of others, but you fail to analyse your own. Did you think being on such a rank would be a piece of cake? If you think so, perhaps you should look up the jobs of such ranks, was there any proper administration in your own work? Well if there was, why would anyone complain? You talk about laziness, but why were there complaints about you 'Not doing work'? Obvious signs of laziness.
  Further more you complain about Hank turning SAPD into some robotic group, where can you point a finger and prove he has? I would love to see it. There is a difference than being right and just complaining because of a chain of events that didn't go to your liking, and I am sure for a good reason. Trying to get a point across (if you call it that) doesn't mean capitalizing words to try seem right, and stating; 'Do shit the proper way', is that some way to just put together some sentences to try put your opinion across to the opposite party even though in this case there isn't any, being that you have no clue what you're actually talking about. You say that Chief Rafferty is apparently doing a bad job, but can you state your work or 'knowledge' of everything as you think is superior than his, I would take it as a 'No', as if it was, you may of still been here, fight for things you have an interest in, because you clearly have shown you are not as you chucked your duties over your shoulder because they were too much for you.

[ThomasHumphreys]

This ain't Call of Duty where each 50 Kills/Arrests equals a Promotion.

I guess it makes it easier to identify the best members in their Ranks by the number of merits he has.

A Sergeant could be a good supervisor and example to other Officers by having several Merits,
but that doesn't mean he should be promoted for it as he may not be a better Lieutenant.

[Leroy Hudson]

The concept of it is to not promote people due to merits, and you're talking about Command positions which would require a more thorough view than some points, but even so, for regular Officers the points aren't used for promotions. This system is here to provide assurance that their work is watched and not overlooked. I do not know however where rumors of people being so highly rewarded (with promotions) is coming from, as this system certainly isn't implemented for that, but for the above. Also as you see some Departments Command teams are not as big, thus making it hard to see everyone, with such a system to take effect would mean they can try their best to view everything they can and form a view of the current work of Officers and have this system back their theory up, if it doesn't they can retrace why.

[Nexus Riggs]

I don't "suck up to my leaders for rank and benefits",  but if you pointlessly show attitude and stupid criticism to someone there should be thoughts about it as well. If you care about SAPD so much why don't you really reinstate yourself in it? in my opinion with this kind of attitudes you won't fit for such position, it won't be steady.

[Nicholas Baker]

Seriously Guys.

How many times do we have to Explain?

There's no Command staff wich works around the clock, So that means. We cannot see all our Officers Work.
Due to the Merit system we can. You also can get Additional money from the merit system.

Its not like: Oh Player X has the most merits lets Promote him. Not at all.

Seriously get the concept of the merit system. Around 5 people keep saying its used to promote people. Ask all department members wich actually uses the system And compare their Opninions with those who dont use the system (You guys)