Bringing back old rules

[Alan Demarest]

I'd like to hear people's opinions on this matter, in the old days there were rules that balanced out the play with Cops and Suspects.

Here are two of those -I- personaly would like to see come back:

1. No drive-by allowed on suspects car unless it's faster than what you are driving.
-Will force officers to actualy learn how to drive properly..

2. No heavy weapons usage on unarmed/lightly armed suspects.
-More fair play for suspects

We're all here to have fun, just as the criminals are.

Opinions?

[tiderman]

My opinion?

No drive-by as copper.
No civilian cars as copper.
Only use the weapons you are issued with as copper. (Nitestick, Deagle, Shotgun, Pepperspray (remove the MP5))

That's what I would like. I would also like a friendlier atmosphere and more teamwork. A more organized ARPD. But not too many regulations like the era when we couldn't go outside city limits and such...

Just... Cops as cops "should" be...

[Jason J. Dilworth]

Yes, bring back those rules, things must be more strict.

[Alan Demarest]

My opinion?

No drive-by as copper.
No civilian cars as copper.
Only use the weapons you are issued with as copper. (Nitestick, Deagle, Shotgun, Pepperspray (remove the MP5))

That's what I would like. I would also like a friendlier atmosphere and more teamwork. A more organized ARPD. But not too many regulations like the era when we couldn't go outside city limits and such...

Just... Cops as cops "should" be...

And how are we supposed to deal with suspects in Infernuses and cars packed with DBing criminals?

[Jcstodds]

  Drive by is too gangsterish for my tastes. It would be nice if the SA:MP allowed driveby with shotguns and pistols like MTA SA, which would be more viable for cop RP. Using SMG on cars that can be out driven by a normal cruiser offends the driver! Although different situations calls for different levels of force. No need to complicate rules - use common sense.

  I use heavy weapons to accommodate my role-play character (AK and Sniper). Primarily to look bad ass and shoot inanimate objects. If I criminal knows I have this weapon and tries to run or fight, it is his choice. I would rather RP though and not shoot to kill. That's why my primary weapon is a katana or a shovel. The only police issue weapon that matches my RP is the shotgun, however I sometimes use the sawn off because of it's antiquity (and its no longer so popular). If I ever have pepperspray I use it as deodorant and mouth spray.

  I also use a civilian pickup truck to throw immigrants/ trolls/ zombies/ black guys in when I need to ferry people around, and have used other civilian vehicles for other appropriate situations when I am a Sheriff (such as trucks).

  So for point 1, the rules should be to use common sense. For 2, make sure you give warnings in an RP way, and make further use of common sense. (In my opinion).

[RayCarter]

This Server needs more rules than whats posted to improve Roleplaying.

But, It's just how this server chooses to be and I have no right to change that.

[tiderman]

My opinion?

No drive-by as copper.
No civilian cars as copper.
Only use the weapons you are issued with as copper. (Nitestick, Deagle, Shotgun, Pepperspray (remove the MP5))

That's what I would like. I would also like a friendlier atmosphere and more teamwork. A more organized ARPD. But not too many regulations like the era when we couldn't go outside city limits and such...

Just... Cops as cops "should" be...

And how are we supposed to deal with suspects in Infernuses and cars packed with DBing criminals?

Hey, that's just my opinion man. I just think theres too many officers driving around in dragracers and shooting with M249s.

I grab a Regina and try to make a run for it after being suspected for reckless driving. Two officers in an Infernus and one on an NRG show up and start to spray the living crap out of me with bullets (both the biker and the passenger in the infernus). As I try to run away from my car that is now on fire to save my own life I get killed. Combats and M4s done shot me to hell. I had no weapons and I didn't even cause that of a serious threat... to anyone.

Just ask yourself that question. What would we do if we couldn't use super cars and sport bikes and not spray with our submachineguns?

[[Rstar]Vince]

I've already worked out a list of guidelines for the not-so-near future to help imrpove SAPD, and bring it back to what it once was.. The guidelines aren't ridiculous like strict city boundaries, but they work off of improving relations with cops and criminals, making it a tad more realistic. Some of the things you may see in the near future may seem a little unnecessary, but they're not over the edge; and of course, there are bound to be amendments.

edit:

This Server needs more rules than whats posted to improve Roleplaying.

But, It's just how this server chooses to be and I have no right to change that.

If you have a problem with "This Server" then you're free to leave. You're currently a senior officer with the SAPD, and if you refer to Argo as "that server" with no intent to give your suggestions in detail, again, you can feel free to resign and/or leave.

[Mac_Cabrazi]

completely agree with this but I have my own suggestion for a rule
No firearm usage what so ever on an unarmed running suspect run after them in a damn footchase if they get in a car then open fire

[tiderman]

Okay I might have overreacted a bit with my whole RESTRICT EVERYTHING!! thing but it's just that I think two cops driving around in a pink Infernus and shooting at everything orange with their combats and assault rifles... It's just... No. It's not police work at all. It's... No, it's not deathmatching but that's what comes to mind when I think about it. It's bad anyhow. I think so anyway.

edit: And it's not like I have this huge problem with everyone who buys extra firepower or drive their highway patrol Buffalo or anything. It's not like I wish everyone who do this were dead or anything. I don't REALLY mind this... like... I can't sleep about it or anything but I think it surely has gotten out of hand


AND that is great to hear, Vince.

[Husky]

I've already worked out a list of guidelines for the not-so-near future to help imrpove SAPD, and bring it back to what it once was.. The guidelines aren't ridiculous like strict city boundaries, but they work off of improving relations with cops and criminals, making it a tad more realistic. Some of the things you may see in the near future may seem a little unnecessary, but they're not over the edge; and of course, there are bound to be amendments.

edit:

This Server needs more rules than whats posted to improve Roleplaying.

But, It's just how this server chooses to be and I have no right to change that.

If you have a problem with "This Server" then you're free to leave. You're currently a senior officer with the SAPD, and if you refer to Argo as "that server" with no intent to give your suggestions in detail, again, you can feel free to resign and/or leave.

he might be right, certain players tend to abuse the fact we dont have some rules written and make drama when they get cought >.>

[RayCarter]

I only play here for a bit of Cops & Robbers. I know it's supposed to be Roleplay and I don't mind it a few times a Day.
But, If I wanted to Roleplay all the time, I'd just find somewhere else. Me alone can't change the theme of Argonath.

I thought people were just breaking Rules, but there ARE no Rules against somethings and everyone knows that and it's just how it is.
I simply followed what I had been doing for the past year and a half when I first joined Argonath.

[Victoria_Taylor]

2. No heavy weapons usage on unarmed/lightly armed suspects.
-More fair play for suspects

Well i dont agree with this rule, if we have heavy weapons that dont means we will use on them i always use spray for them, so we arent gods to know if they are heavy armed or no , anyway its up to SAPD command if they bring those rules i will follow them i cant do nothing

[Wayne]

There rules should be made for someone that is not biased.

[GiacJr]

I only play here for a bit of Cops & Robbers. I know it's supposed to be Roleplay and I don't mind it a few times a Day.
But, If I wanted to Roleplay all the time, I'd just find somewhere else. Me alone can't change the theme of Argonath.

I thought people were just breaking Rules, but there ARE no Rules against somethings and everyone knows that and it's just how it is.
I simply followed what I had been doing for the past year and a half when I first joined Argonath.

So wait, you treat Argonath as a cops n robbers server with no ambition of RPing whatsoever?
Excuse me while I talk to the head of your PD about this.

[TinMan]

Let's just keep it how it is. Less complicated.

[Badandy]

The good of this is that cops wont kill standing suspect.

The bad is making alot of confusion with Freecops that are new to the server.. and more Confusion..

[Jcstodds]

Use common sense on all of the above, and there will be no problem.

[Oliver Daniels]

1. No drive-by allowed on suspects car unless it's faster than what you are driving.
-Will force officers to actualy learn how to drive properly..

BUT THAT WILL PUT ME OUT OF MY JOB!

Seriously though, agreed to both.

However, when a slow car has 3 blokes that are shooting at you, I return fire.

No drive-by as copper.
No civilian cars as copper.
Only use the weapons you are issued with as copper. (Nitestick, Deagle, Shotgun, Pepperspray (remove the MP5))

OI! You mad.

[FlameMan]

1. No drive-by allowed on suspects car unless it's faster than what you are driving.
-Will force officers to actualy learn how to drive properly..

2. No heavy weapons usage on unarmed/lightly armed suspects.
-More fair play for suspects

Agreed with those.

No firearm usage what so ever on an unarmed running suspect run after them in a damn footchase if they get in a car then open fire

I disagree with this one. Officers are mostly running after suspects instead of just shooting at them from one place.. In my opinion suspect who is running away and not answering "Surrender" calls, can be taken down with lethal force.

I would also really love to see the dark blue color back, but after long discussion with CBFasi, I know it's impossible Unfortunately.