Report to Leader (discussion)

[Thomas_Crof]

After reading the rules, I noticed that you now must have RP evidence to report a cop.

Link to the rules.

Now, here's the thing;

1,3. You can NOT report someone if you died in the same roleplay.

Let's say that someone found your camera. The tape shows a cop beating you to death. Can you still report him?

[Alan Demarest]

After reading the rules, I noticed that you now must have RP evidence to report a cop.

Link to the rules.

Now, here's the thing;

1,3. You can NOT report someone if you died in the same roleplay.

Let's say that someone found your camera. The tape shows a cop beating you to death. Can you still report him?

I doubt a cop would kill you and then just leave you in the open with your camera. If you did gather RP evidence, THEN died, ask the cop if you can have someone else find the evidence. As the cop might have destroyed it in RP afterwards.

[Jcstodds]

  I think if someone is reported with none RP evidence, it should be enough reason to start an RP investigation into that player to monitor them - which can entertain some interesting play.

I also think it makes sense (to avoid silly arguements) that the officers in question are smart enough to destroy bad evidence  , but I give the idea above to make it fair. 

 

[ElMartu]

If you ask me, the example with somebody finding your camera you brought up is a lame excuse to avoid the rule Alan made.

[Jason J. Dilworth]

Please note that, flaming in roleplay situation is allowed.

[Salmonella]

Since when does Senior Officer Alan Demarast make the rules :S ?

Also, if some cop abuses the /suspect command and then /q's how am i supposed to make a roleplay out of it, i would just report him, RP or not.  I disagree with the by Alan Demarast implented rule system

[Alan Demarest]

Since when does Senior Officer Alan Demarast make the rules :S ?

Also, if some cop abuses the /suspect command and then /q's how am i supposed to make a roleplay out of it, i would just report him, RP or not.  I disagree with the by Alan Demarast implented rule system

Pancher asked me to make it, so yeah.

[Salmonella]

Since when does Senior Officer Alan Demarast make the rules :S ?

Also, if some cop abuses the /suspect command and then /q's how am i supposed to make a roleplay out of it, i would just report him, RP or not.  I disagree with the by Alan Demarast implented rule system

Pancher asked me to make it, so yeah.

Can't imagine how he would ask such a thing but ok. Still i disagree with the rule, There should be an allowance of reporting OOC deeds within the ARPD.

[Ben Samiir]

Since when does Senior Officer Alan Demarast make the rules :S ?

Also, if some cop abuses the /suspect command and then /q's how am i supposed to make a roleplay out of it, i would just report him, RP or not.  I disagree with the by Alan Demarast implented rule system

Well when you /su it will be saved in the MDC. After checking the MDC logs we can find out that the cop abused his power. In RP when a cop suspect a guy. The only way to know the guy is wanted is by checking the MDC. So there will be always a trace of his suspection.

[Husky]

Since when does Senior Officer Alan Demarast make the rules :S ?

Also, if some cop abuses the /suspect command and then /q's how am i supposed to make a roleplay out of it, i would just report him, RP or not.  I disagree with the by Alan Demarast implented rule system

dude, read the rules again, and you will realize that you can report non-roleplay rulebreak too -.- also read it was requested by pancher, and your "since when blablah" sounds really annoying, learn to read carefully before post such things....

[Jcstodds]

  If cops do something wrong, like RP corruption (but still RP), then there should be RP evidence against them. SAPD supports good roleplay. If cops want to RP a bad cop, we should use our RP investigation skills to punish them. If otherwise, it means SAPD is not supporting alternative cop RP, which is bad.

  It makes sense that if the offence is non RP related and infringing server rules, then the appropriate punishment is given since as a professional organisation SAPD supports good players who support the community - and those who do not support the community and break rules are not concerned with RP anyway.

[Oliver Daniels]

Since when does Senior Officer Alan Demarast make the rules :S ?

Also, if some cop abuses the /suspect command and then /q's how am i supposed to make a roleplay out of it, i would just report him, RP or not.  I disagree with the by Alan Demarast implented rule system

Since when is Senior Officer Salmonella, former sergeant who was demoted, allowed to criticize others, hm?

At least now officers can be punished for shit roleplay skills.

[Thomas_Crof]

Since when is Senior Officer Salmonella, former sergeant who was demoted, allowed to criticize others, hm?

Everyone is free to criticize others, as long as it's constructional (?) criticism...

And Oliver, I just wanted to point this out before a case happens with the "found camera"

[Salmonella]

This is a discussion, Husky, Olliver, that gives me the right to state my opinions in critizising or w/e way as long as it's not rulebreak.

Since when does Senior Officer Alan Demarast make the rules :S ?

Also, if some cop abuses the /suspect command and then /q's how am i supposed to make a roleplay out of it, i would just report him, RP or not.  I disagree with the by Alan Demarast implented rule system

Well when you /su it will be saved in the MDC. After checking the MDC logs we can find out that the cop abused his power. In RP when a cop suspect a guy. The only way to know the guy is wanted is by checking the MDC. So there will be always a trace of his suspection.

Yes but we still can't report them for it in the report to leader section

[Husky]

This is a discussion, Husky, Olliver, that gives me the right to state my opinions in critizising or w/e way as long as it's not rulebreak.

Since when does Senior Officer Alan Demarast make the rules :S ?

Also, if some cop abuses the /suspect command and then /q's how am i supposed to make a roleplay out of it, i would just report him, RP or not.  I disagree with the by Alan Demarast implented rule system

Well when you /su it will be saved in the MDC. After checking the MDC logs we can find out that the cop abused his power. In RP when a cop suspect a guy. The only way to know the guy is wanted is by checking the MDC. So there will be always a trace of his suspection.

Yes but we still can't report them for it in the report to leader section

Dude you make too many critiques and most of them are arrogant, and you wonred why people dont like you, by your critiques you provoke them and piss them off....  i repeat you again think before posting, or you'll just get alot of people against you becouse your critiques..

[Wayne]

I have a question,

We have two situations, they're exactly the same.

A SAPD cop tortures a civillian, for example.

We supose the reporter has RP evidence and Non RP evidence

What kind of evidence will be taken more serious? in which case the cop will have more chances to be fired?

[Salmonella]

Dude you make too many critiques and most of them are arrogant, and you wonred why people dont like you, by your critiques you provoke them and piss them off....  i repeat you again think before posting, or you'll just get alot of people against you becouse your critiques..

I state what i want, people have the right to dislike, their choise. But let's return to the subject please?

[Kenny]

Dude you make too many critiques and most of them are arrogant, and you wonred why people dont like you, by your critiques you provoke them and piss them off....  i repeat you again think before posting, or you'll just get alot of people against you becouse your critiques..

Husky you gotta understand alot of people who do these kind of stuff are not even 15

[Salmonella]

Dude you make too many critiques and most of them are arrogant, and you wonred why people dont like you, by your critiques you provoke them and piss them off....  i repeat you again think before posting, or you'll just get alot of people against you becouse your critiques..

Husky you gotta understand alot of people who do these kind of stuff are not even 15

Like you? jeez.. leave age out of this..

[Leroy Hudson]

Dude you make too many critiques and most of them are arrogant, and you wonred why people dont like you, by your critiques you provoke them and piss them off....  i repeat you again think before posting, or you'll just get alot of people against you becouse your critiques..

Husky you gotta understand alot of people who do these kind of stuff are not even 15

Like you? jeez.. leave age out of this..

Still, you cannot assume Alan made these up by himself. He had Pancher permission, it doesn't matter what rank he is, he has the knowledge to do what he can, to improve the department, so be it.