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Offline Hank_Rafferty

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New SAPD Awarding system - 2011!
« on: February 13, 2011, 23:26:56 pm »



The new awarding system will give fair chance to every officer to earn a medal, if they are hard working and loyal employees to SAPD. The awarding system will be the same for every local departments without expection. (Official SAPD awards: Medal Of Valor, Police Star, Police Lifesaving Medal, Meritroious Service Medal, and Community Policing Medal)

The local PDs are still free to make custom awards for their officers, but the official awards are regulated by the SAPD Upper command staff. (eg: DPD's best shooter, LVPD's best dispatcher)


Award system


Community Policing Medal & Meritorious Service Medal - Can be earned by using the *Merit system, and only the most hard working officers can win these medals, who reached the most merit count during the month(s).

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Police Star & Police lifesaving medal: - Can be only given to the officer, if the whole SAPD Command staff voted about it (SAPD Lt+).

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Medal of Valor: Can be only given by SAPD/ARPD Chief and his deputies. The local department leaders should send proposal letter to the main SAPD leaders, and the chiefs will vote if the officer deservs the medal, or not. On the next ceremony a Chief (or deputy) must attend, and he will give out the medal.





What is the Merit system? :

The Merit system is originally founded by Captain Leroy Hudson. This new way to promote the officers is good sollution to create fairness in the awarding. Until this day, the merit system was only used in the LVPD, but from now on, All local PDs must use this contrivance. The SAPD is using standardized rules for awarding & promoting.

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'Merit Awards'


Introduction
The Merit system, is a system the LVPD uses as a 'reference' to see how Officers are doing on the forum / during in game. Points are rewarded for certain things, such as Patrol reports, Dispatch reports, desk assignments. We do not use the Merit system as a prime reference to award/promote during ceremonies, but as a sort of 'back up' data about the work of each Officer.


System of the Merit awards
I'll use the LVPD tasks which you have to do to be awarded these 'Merit awards', as an example.

60 minutes/1 Hour PATROL Report = 1 Merit
60 minutes/1 Hour DISPATCH Report = 1 Merit
1 Completed assignment = 1 Merit

For Patrol / Dispatch reports, say if an Officer does 1 Hour 30 minutes, he won't be awarded for 30 minutes, but just for the 60, So he may push him self if possible to get more merits, for every hour you do on Reports, you receive one merit.

For assignments, the assignment can be short / long as possible, but must offer some physical activity during in game, to receive one merit after being completed.



Additional Information
We keep adding Merits to people who earn them, and after a Ceremony, every Merit is nulled to 0, Including the assignments board, Patrol reports board, Dispatch reports board topics. They are nulled to 0, because the Merits may of been used as a reference for certain awards, but also by nulling them after ceremonies, the Officers who are low on Merits, have a fresh chance, to try collect as many as possible, Note that Officers are aware that they cannot just receive awards by simply collecting merits, but also trying different ways to help the Department, and putting effort in.

Patrol Reports - Merits are given by Patrol Commanders (Patrol Center Upper CMD if needed)
Dispatch Reports - Merits are given by Dispatch Commanders (Patrol Center Upper CMD if needed)
Assignment Reports - Merits are given by Patrol Center Upper CMD



I would gladly answer any questions, to help clear confusion so this may work smoothly if your Department puts it in use.

Signed,
Captain Leroy Hudson


signed,
Chief Hank Rafferty
Captain Leroy Hudson

Las Venturas 13.02.2011.
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Re: New SAPD Awarding system - 2011!
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2011, 23:30:07 pm »
Nice  :pancher: :sheriff:
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Re: New SAPD Awarding system - 2011!
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2011, 00:09:05 am »
I like!

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Re: New SAPD Awarding system - 2011!
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2011, 00:50:04 am »
Honestly, I do like the idea but I believe there will be some negative things going on.

I'm speaking for endless competition of each department's officer, and in end, big arguements  :hit:

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Re: New SAPD Awarding system - 2011!
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2011, 00:56:33 am »
I agree with Rock

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Re: New SAPD Awarding system - 2011!
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2011, 01:04:22 am »
I do not like this

For these merits, either get a fixed number for the medal, or scrap it. By saying getting the 'most' points to get it within the PD could piss people off.

For example, one guy from LSPD gets 5 points and gets the medal because they have the most, guy from DPD gets 15 but does not get a medal because he did not get the most?

Ideas need revising.

Also, how the hell do the SAPD command staff vote on each player if they never patrol with them? And also are inactive, for example, practically all our chiefs are rarely on.

DPD - Medal of Whiskey x3 DPD - Medal of Respect x1 DPD - Medal of Loyalty x3
 SAPD - Meritorious Award x1 SAPD - Community Policing x1

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Re: New SAPD Awarding system - 2011!
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2011, 01:08:07 am »
Some of the concerns above have been posted for review by myself, please realize in the future there could be changes.

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Offline Hank_Rafferty

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Re: New SAPD Awarding system - 2011!
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2011, 02:43:53 am »
Honestly, I do like the idea but I believe there will be some negative things going on.

I'm speaking for endless competition of each department's officer, and in end, big arguements  :hit:


You should get used to it... a little competition doesn't hurts.  :v:



I do not like this

For these merits, either get a fixed number for the medal, or scrap it. By saying getting the 'most' points to get it within the PD could piss people off.

For example, one guy from LSPD gets 5 points and gets the medal because they have the most, guy from DPD gets 15 but does not get a medal because he did not get the most?

Ideas need revising.


First of all, the merit system is not the only way to earn the Meritrous Service Medal & Community Policing Medal. If the officer is so dedicated to the force, and recognised by the command staff in game.. he will get the deserts. But.. if you are not playing in the same time zone, or you just simply want to show detailed reports about your field work.. you got chance to earn 'merits'.

With this.. in the end of the month, to the next ceremony.. you can't say, i wrote 10 reports but the command staff ignores me.. because it will be a deciding factor when the question pops up "who deserves a medal".

If you would realise, these rules always existed in the SAPD.. just they were not written until today. The Merit system is unitaring the SAPD awards.




Also, how the hell do the SAPD command staff vote on each player if they never patrol with them? And also are inactive, for example, practically all our chiefs are rarely on.

If a local deparatment leader... for example a lieutenant, takes the effort to award somebody with a great SAPD medal... he will take the time to write a detailed report why is the cop deserving it. The SAPD Command team is not cold hearted to deny the medal from a cop who saved 10 officers, and chiefs can always overjudge if there would be abuse in the voting. The whole point is to have oversight on giving out the highest medals, and to prevent the easily given rewards.

( If a regular cop whishes to propose somebody to be awarded with the Police star/Lifesaving Medal/Medal of Valor, he has to contact to the local department leaders. [Sgt / Lt or Cpt] )






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Re: New SAPD Awarding system - 2011!
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2011, 03:40:53 am »
I have been away for quite some time, but i just cannot imagine the upper command, ''patrol commanders, dispatch commanders, upper patrol center command'', fulfilling such a huge task of monitoring every single merit earning candidate. As mentioned earlier, you'd have to be online 24 / 7, because members of departements, aren't online online at times that you are normally online. Monitoring everyone constantly isn't fun, which bring me to my next point ;

This ''Merit System'' seems not fun to me at all, this system is all about competition in my eyes. I am here ( or atleast trying to be here again :D ) to have lots of fun. Competition stresses me out. Although i actually enjoy working hard for things i like to work for, competition has ruined everything for me in my past SAPD carreer. I also tried to be ''better'' than others, to gain ranks and medals, while instead, all i reached, was lack of fun, a termintation from my duties, respect lost, and many more to name. However, some people enjoy competition and manage to enjoy it and not stress out. These people might enjoy the Merit System. So there are two different kind of opinions about competition, which brings me to my next point ;

The people who will like to have competition can still have that inside or outside the SAPD, I have actually no idea, because I am not one of these people. The point is, the Merit System is not needed to experience the competition that you like. However, on the other side, If this Merit System would be implented, the people who do not like competition or the Merit System will be forced to live by it. Now, forcing people to do something, especially such a drastic change in the SAPD, is something that i believe, would ruin the fun that we are to experience here with eachother. So basing my opinions on the main goal that atleast I am here to experience

However, As far as i'm concerned, the second goal of this Merit System is to improve the efficiency of medal awarding. I seriously think that changes being made to the awarding system are a good thing. For example, an officer who has been here for 3 years, only has 3 medals, and an officer who has been here 1 year, has 15 medals, They are at same activity, but one gets noticed more than another. That is wRONg.. And it is good that there have now been started discussions about this. My personal opinion about the Merit System remains the same though, for the reasons named above. It's not just a ''a little competition''. It would redefine the whole way of working in the SAPD.

Even if Merits don't HAVE to be earned ( and i assume opposite ), it would still put that competative pressure on you, that i was talking about earlier...

That is the reason i'm worried

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Re: New SAPD Awarding system - 2011!
« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2011, 03:45:06 am »
We will only check patrol reports, dispatch reports and assignments to check who earns merits.
I used 5 minutes to add merits for this February to all dpd officers earlier today, it's not that much extra work, and it's more likely a "back-up" so we can  have better overview of which officers that are active on the field serving, for exemple for the meritorious service medal.  ;)
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Re: New SAPD Awarding system - 2011!
« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2011, 03:53:43 am »
We will only check patrol reports, dispatch reports and assignments to check who earns merits.
I used 5 minutes to add merits for this February to all dpd officers earlier today, it's not that much extra work, and it's more likely a "back-up" so we can  have better overview of which officers that are active on the field serving, for exemple for the meritorious service medal.  ;)
Yeah, well, i was more curious about how you know how long he/she patrolled. appart from trust of course

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Re: New SAPD Awarding system - 2011!
« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2011, 03:57:55 am »
We will only check patrol reports, dispatch reports and assignments to check who earns merits.
I used 5 minutes to add merits for this February to all dpd officers earlier today, it's not that much extra work, and it's more likely a "back-up" so we can  have better overview of which officers that are active on the field serving, for exemple for the meritorious service medal.  ;)
Yeah, well, i was more curious about how you know how long he/she patrolled. appart from trust of course

Well it wouldn't take to much time to find out, depending on how many arrests/jails and c3 situations the officer has been involved in.
If a officer has patrolle for example 6hours+ it will be checked into more, then just a report for 1 hour.
Officers should provide as much as they can with how many C3 situations, special situations and jails/kills in their reports and provide pictures.
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Re: New SAPD Awarding system - 2011!
« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2011, 08:36:34 am »
We will only check patrol reports, dispatch reports and assignments to check who earns merits.
I used 5 minutes to add merits for this February to all dpd officers earlier today, it's not that much extra work, and it's more likely a "back-up" so we can  have better overview of which officers that are active on the field serving, for exemple for the meritorious service medal.  ;)
Yeah, well, i was more curious about how you know how long he/she patrolled. appart from trust of course

Well it wouldn't take to much time to find out, depending on how many arrests/jails and c3 situations the officer has been involved in.
If a officer has patrolle for example 6hours+ it will be checked into more, then just a report for 1 hour.
Officers should provide as much as they can with how many C3 situations, special situations and jails/kills in their reports and provide pictures.
And improve use of the Case & Reports..

I noticed that when I posted a report in January, there wasn't any activity for a month.

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Re: New SAPD Awarding system - 2011!
« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2011, 08:46:59 am »
This, will be interesting.
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Re: New SAPD Awarding system - 2011!
« Reply #14 on: February 14, 2011, 09:18:36 am »
Understand that this was a system for one Department up till now, but perhaps now that its global, all Departments may have an equal set limit of merits needed for awards if it is needed, do not forget, that Merit awards are just a 'reference' on how you're doing, but you can also gain awards by hard work on the field. Also once a ceremony/awarding event has been done, Merits must be reset to 0, so all Officers gain equal chance again, for the next awards.

It saves work for your Departments CMD, If they have been away, and have had only access to forum, it helps them see how your doing on the field, as a reference.

Also about competition, we've in the past set 'Group' assignments, which means some team of Officers work together to complete an assigment, and they all get awarded a merit.


Hope this may of helped,
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Re: New SAPD Awarding system - 2011!
« Reply #15 on: February 14, 2011, 11:54:24 am »
Just to clear up... if the merit system wouldnt work, or it would be too complicated, it wouldnt be implemented. The merit system had a test period in the LVPD, and the system works fine. To reassure you Salmonella, the command team is not spending much more time on forums as earlier.. and its still optional for the officers to earn a merit, its not a must.

As you realised, the SAPD ranking system is bit changed in the last months. Some months ago you couldnt say the difference between an officer, senior officer, sergeant, or liutenant. Each rank has its own role, and if you dont want competition or hard work, just stay on the officer rank.


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Re: New SAPD Awarding system - 2011!
« Reply #16 on: February 14, 2011, 12:43:08 pm »
I was suprised when i saw the "Promotion and Awards" topic in "news and announcement" to see an officer awarding a Sergeant & Lt with Police Star medal, that is just a joke...
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Re: New SAPD Awarding system - 2011!
« Reply #17 on: February 14, 2011, 13:27:12 pm »
I was suprised when i saw the "Promotion and Awards" topic in "news and announcement" to see an officer awarding a Sergeant & Lt with Police Star medal, that is just a joke...

Also an ex captain and a legend in the force ;)

About the idea..

Well seems more designed for LVPD..I do support it if it can be reformed for each department.
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Re: New SAPD Awarding system - 2011!
« Reply #18 on: February 14, 2011, 14:01:57 pm »
I was suprised when i saw the "Promotion and Awards" topic in "news and announcement" to see an officer awarding a Sergeant & Lt with Police Star medal, that is just a joke...

Also a person who has access to the command board of dpd, to help, improve and come with ideas for the dpd ;)
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Re: New SAPD Awarding system - 2011!
« Reply #19 on: February 14, 2011, 15:19:19 pm »
About the idea..

Well seems more designed for LVPD..I do support it if it can be reformed for each department.


Indeed... all PD has its own design. LVPD is the pattern, but every PD can have costumized assignments and boards.

examples:

LVPD > Patrol Center (special & UC assignments) > Patrol Reports HQ (Organised Patrols) > Dispatch Reports HQ (Dispatch Service) > Training board (training events) > LVHP (Costumized assignments for LVPD troopers)
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LSPD > L.S.P.D. Headquarters Patrol Center (Organised Patrols/Dispatch services) > L.S.P.D. Undercover Headquarters (UC assignments) . . . can be added more
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DPD > Dillimore Sheriff Central > State Troopers report section (Organised patrols / Dispatch services) > B.C.S.D./F.C.S.D./R.C.S.D. (Costumized assignments for DPD troopers) > DPD Undercover (UC assignments)
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SFPD > SFPD Communications Center > SFPD Group Patrols (Organised patrols/dispatch services) > SFPD Training (training events)


All PD has the opportunity to make something unique.... just use imagination.


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