Reporting FBI agent

[Marcell]

Report against [WSt]Shadow

Reason for Reporting this player?:Not appropiate behavior for FBI agent/VCPD member in overall, this guy just seems to act nice while his bosses are watching yet acts like a kid while nobody watches over him. He also helps a local gang in their war against another gang (yes incase you guys didn't notice, there is a gang war going on) as a civilian or undercover agent to get cash for killing homicidal gang members

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Demands:Demotion from FBI, verbal warning

Signed, "rank: freecop","[EAF]Marcell"

[JDC]

Thank you very much for submitting this report. I will personally take action on this myself.

[Huntsman]

Not so fast JDC.
I'd like to give my statement here as well.
First of all, i wish to tell you that Shadow is constantly being provoked by [EAF] members or these famous people as reporter himself and another people i will not mention. They're simply trying to report hunt him everytime he does something wrong. Im just getting tired of seeing him constantly provoked and insulted, flamed, but simply administration ignores me most of the times i try reporting something like that. Please consider that this officer is great FBI agent and VCPD officer and i am one hundred percent sure he would NEVER do something like that on his own will.

Signed

VCPD Cadet Max Cipone

[Verz]

From my point of view, officer Shadow is great in what he does (VCPD Officer/FBI Agent role) and most important, he is very active. I think that provocations that are clearly shown on those pictures are meant to be a joke. Apparently i have never seen Shadow flaming/insulting etc.. Maybe he deserves an official/verbal warning, but for sure not to be fired from FBI. It's up to you to decide, JDC.

[Marcus R.]

This report is being dealt with.
I already spoke to Shadow directly, and he received a verbal warning.
JDC, I might have to speak to you regarding his future inside the FBI division. PM me or show up on MSN so we can talk.

[Chief J. Schappell]

First of all, i wish to tell you that Shadow is constantly being provoked by [EAF] members or these famous people as reporter himself and another people i will not mention.

That doesn't give him the right to be unprofessional back towards them, or break the server rules himself. If he responds, he is just as guilty. The anger is understandable to a certain degree, but it doesn't free him from punishment. That is a community thing, not a Police/FBI thing.

[Marcell]

Not so fast JDC.
I'd like to give my statement here as well.
First of all, i wish to tell you that Shadow is constantly being provoked by [EAF] members or these famous people as reporter himself and another people i will not mention. They're simply trying to report hunt him everytime he does something wrong. Im just getting tired of seeing him constantly provoked and insulted, flamed, but simply administration ignores me most of the times i try reporting something like that. Please consider that this officer is great FBI agent and VCPD officer and i am one hundred percent sure he would NEVER do something like that on his own will.

Signed

VCPD Cadet Max Cipone

this is a complaint about your officer, not my gang. If you wish to complain about us breaking rules, then start being active ingame, then send a report to [email protected].

Governament employees should be an example to follow, incase a one gets *provoked* he is meant to be quiet and make a report himself. If you don't have any evidence on what you said, then I suggest you to get some (perhaps first you'd start being active in game)

that's all i have to say, I'm just doing my job as a citizen, kinda.

[Rapture]

Even tho this officer got a verbal warning, I would still need to point out more things that he said and his actions. I can live with the fact that he kept telling me that I should 'calm down' and all that. But his attitude of saying childish things like 'umad', etc. is just unacceptable for an FBI agent at all costs. Shadow was pretty corrupt during the war yeah, he was just cruising around in a faggio for no apparent reason, whilst hunting down armed & wanted criminals. After that, he just decided to 'give up' since he was 'bored', he started to shoot the gang members which resulted in him deathmatching and ruining the war, again, completely unacceptable for an FBI agent, just my two cents on this agent's behavior. Even tho I appear to be mad in the last picture, Shadow was backstabbing people with a stubby and aiding a criminal side.

[^Shadow^]

First of all, i wish to tell you that Shadow is constantly being provoked by [EAF] members or these famous people as reporter himself and another people i will not mention.

That doesn't give him the right to be unprofessional back towards them, or break the server rules himself. If he responds, he is just as guilty. The anger is understandable to a certain degree, but it doesn't free him from punishment. That is a community thing, not a Police/FBI thing.

^ Indeed, I acted childish and admited my mistakes

Even tho this officer got a verbal warning, I would still need to point out more things that he said and his actions. I can live with the fact that he kept telling me that I should 'calm down' and all that. But his attitude of saying childish things like 'umad', etc. is just unacceptable for an FBI agent at all costs. Shadow was pretty corrupt during the war yeah, he was just cruising around in a faggio for no apparent reason, whilst hunting down armed & wanted criminals. After that, he just decided to 'give up' since he was 'bored', he started to shoot the gang members which resulted in him deathmatching and ruining the war, again, completely unacceptable for an FBI agent, just my two cents on this agent's behavior. Even tho I appear to be mad in the last picture, Shadow was backstabbing people with a stubby and aiding a criminal side.

Not so fast, I wasn't even on-duty during this whole incident, and I was defending myself, as I received your run-arounds me as a potential threat.


       Ohh and Rapture, please be kindly and tell me why you returned 4 times and killed me, while I was just self-defending and trying to get into Pole Position ???

        Ohh, and please explain your revenge-killing behaviour, like, returning and killing me ?

Not so fast JDC.
I'd like to give my statement here as well.
First of all, i wish to tell you that Shadow is constantly being provoked by [EAF] members or these famous people as reporter himself and another people i will not mention. They're simply trying to report hunt him everytime he does something wrong. Im just getting tired of seeing him constantly provoked and insulted, flamed, but simply administration ignores me most of the times i try reporting something like that. Please consider that this officer is great FBI agent and VCPD officer and i am one hundred percent sure he would NEVER do something like that on his own will.

Signed

VCPD Cadet Max Cipone

From my point of veiw, officer Shadow is great in what he does (VCPD Officer/FBI Agent role) and most important, he is very active. I think that provocations that are clearly shown on those pictures are meant to be a joke. Apparently i have never seen Shadow flaming/insulting etc.. Maybe he deserves an official/verbal warning, but for sure not to be fired from FBI. It's up to you to decide, JDC.

^^ Thank you two but I admit I am guilty for my swears and my lack of respect towards VC:MP players.

       TL;DR

         I admitted my mistakes

[Rapture]

Not so fast, I wasn't even on-duty during this whole incident, and I was defending myself, as I received your run-arounds me as a potential threat.


       Ohh and Rapture, please be kindly and tell me why you returned 4 times and killed me, while I was just self-defending and trying to get into Pole Position ???

        Ohh, and please explain your revenge-killing behaviour, like, returning and killing me ?

First of all, this is a topic regarding YOU, not me or any other criminal in this incident. Like said previously, all complaints to other players may be sent to [email protected]

To answer you, you were protecting yourself? Like going behind a guy's back in a battle and shooting him to death is self-defense, oh- please! You were on duty before, on the faggio, shooting wanted criminals and ruining the fight. And why would a registered police officer not on duty join Criminals for God's sakes, this shouldn't even be acceptable.

If you feel like quoting my previous post, you might aswell answer all of it, thank you.

[Marcell]

Not so fast, I wasn't even on-duty during this whole incident, and I was defending myself, as I received your run-arounds me as a potential threat.


       Ohh and Rapture, please be kindly and tell me why you returned 4 times and killed me, while I was just self-defending and trying to get into Pole Position ???

        Ohh, and please explain your revenge-killing behaviour, like, returning and killing me ?

First of all, this is a topic regarding YOU, not me or any other criminal in this incident. Like said previously, all complaints to other players may be sent to [email protected]

To answer you, you were protecting yourself? Like going behind a guy's back in a battle and shooting him to death is self-defense, oh- please! You were on duty before, on the faggio, shooting wanted criminals and ruining the fight. And why would a registered police officer not on duty join Criminals for God's sakes, this shouldn't even be acceptable.

If you feel like quoting my previous post, you might aswell answer all of it, thank you.

that's not the thing - he can shoot criminals or even be a criminal, the problem is he was aiding one gang while (im pretty sure) on undercover duty. doing such an *event* as gang war he should be busy collecting intel for VCPD or something, not ride around on a scooter and shoot only one gang members in their backs, using illegal weapons from their headquarters (since he got access)

[^Shadow^]

I wasn't on-duty! Just when I took my faggio I was on-duty!


To add, I wasn't on-duty as FBI when the flames occured ( but you see that in the first one I was a cop and didn't got my rights on 2.0 that time ).


- to end, Single accusations for what can I be sued is : Deatmatching ( more like self-defense while not being on-duty ), Swearing ( while not on-duty )

[Chief J. Schappell]

...for what can I be sued is : Deatmatching ( more like self-defense while not being on-duty ), Swearing ( while not on-duty )

Those are not laws being broken. Those are rules being broken.

[~Legend~]

The Vice City Police Department takes into account behaviour/actions that took place during their police role, or in scenarios related to their police role [within roleplay] when investigating misconduct.

Without it having to be stated, the general behaviour and personality of a player is also important, and especially when they hold an official position.
We have analysed the content reported and while Command is continuing this investigation, much of the comments (in screenshots) could be questioned, and is maybe something that should be addressed by the community itself.

Linking on to that, we shall "declare" what's acceptable or unacceptable from a member of the VCPD, FBI or SWAT.

[Marcell]

I wasn't on-duty! Just when I took my faggio I was on-duty!


To add, I wasn't on-duty as FBI when the flames occured ( but you see that in the first one I was a cop and didn't got my rights on 2.0 that time ).


- to end, Single accusations for what can I be sued is : Deatmatching ( more like self-defense while not being on-duty ), Swearing ( while not on-duty )

you weren't deathmatching but helping another gang. poor reason to kill civilians (well, suspects) from only one side, but still not deathmatching

[~Legend~]

Generally within Argonath RPG, people are and have been allowed to roleplay different characters from time to time.

If a member of VCPD [(ARPD) roleplay aside altogether] wishes to take part in a criminal activity, not linked to their police profile, that's absolutely fine - it just becomes more worrying if they are criminal more than police, of course.


Just to mention it here, civilians aren't encouraged to get involved in a police situation, but if a bystander decides to help a sudden situation (such as by preventing a suspect to get away) that would be thanked by the police - although never requested or again, encouraged, as they may be putting their own safety at tisk. It is not expected in any manner or form.
If laws are broken, it's plausible that charges may be taken or considered.

[JDC]

Let me clarify here about what is acceptable or not for FBI.

The FBI on Argonath are an elite group of law enforcers, meant to be picked from the best. This means that they are supposed to serve as model examples to the rest of the community. If freecops are the regular and new players, the FBI are on the same level as admins if an analogy is made between the administration and law enforcement hierarchies. This means every single FBI Agent is expected to abide by the rules regardless of what happens to them.

For this fact and given the history of the FBI on other servers, the name FBI itself carries the reputation of being a model amongst law enforcers. This means any petty rulebreaking from FBI Agents, even if done in reciprocation, is utterly unacceptable. If an Agent is provoked, then they are to stick to due process and file a report or ask for assistance from their superiors instead of rulebreaking in return, because this degrades the FBI Agent to the level of the rulebreakers who harass them.

Therefore, any petty rulebreaking from FBI Agents is utterly unacceptable.


Case Closed.
Punishment: Agent Shadow suspended from any FBI (not VCPD) duties for two weeks, effective immediately.

Punishment will be reviewed on January 16, 2012, any criminal activities will lead to a possible extension of the suspension or a removal from both FBI and VCPD.

Topic will be locked in 48 hours or whenever I deem necessary.


To Marcell and [EAF]:

I have handled the case myself and action was taken against the Agent for violating the rules and due process.

For future reference, I will not promise this kind of swift and urgent response if [EAF] members continue to provoke our men. I am not pointing out that every [EAF] member is a rulebreaker, but that there are some unacceptable attitudes and histories within your group, some even involving yourself. This is exactly what put you in Aragorn's crosshairs last year. Should any more reports come to me (at their current pace) about provocations from your members then I can guarantee that any future complaints you or any other [EAF] member file against FBI or VCPD can and will be stonewalled, to be scrapped after.

However, if your group will deal with us in a civilized manner free of any petty provocations, then by all means I and the rest of the command staff will be more than willing to handle any filed complaints, especially those against FBI Agents. Our new policy on the swiftness of handling complaints will simply be in reciprocation to how your members treat us.

This is to make it fair for both sides. If this works out, not only will FBI/VCPD members be kept in line, but relations between Cops and Criminals will turn out better. I am executing this policy myself since I will not rely on the VC:MP Administration for a task they have failed to carry out for the past two years.

Simple overview: If we get any more valid reports about [EAF] provoking or harassing our members in any way, then it will affect any complaints you file.

Thank you, and I am very much looking forward to our new cooperation...

JDC
FBI Director

[Klaus]

Haters gonna hate, right JDC? It is pretty much evident that you hold EAF in contempt. Your not in any position to be judging my clan on how little you actually know, and so its just simply prejudice on your behalf. Getting to the point, it shouldn't matter who files a report, what matters is the evidence shown. In the pictures shown on this topic, I see little to none provocation from EAF and instead childish and idiotic responses from Shadow involving lesbians and used condoms. Now if your going to talk about "petty provocations", then please do by all means enlighten us on what your referring to, because there clearly isn't anything present on this topic.


Warned for this post - Paul

[Chief J. Schappell]

...then please do by all means enlighten us on what your referring to, because there clearly isn't anything present on this topic.

Maybe you should look at your own statement and think about that for a second. Provoking and attacking him back for what he said does not justify you to do it also.

[Marcus R.]

Agent has been reported, decision has been made. Everything has been clarified with the agent himself. Thanks again for the report.



Topic locked to prevent arguments. Don't take me wrong.