San Andreas Police Department | Q&A

[RayCarter]

It even says that there should only be One Chief for the Department, refering to the SAPD.
I don't know who was made Police Chief 2nd, and why promoted to that position instead of Deputy Chief. I chose CBFasi for Assistant Chief because he's the Chief of SWAT. I don't know if CBFasi has been Police Chief longer than Pancher. and I don't see how it could be any more complicated since there are very little ranks in the SAPD anyway. Real Police Departments such as LAPD or SFPD have Commander.

I guess having a single Chief would be put to an Election?

[Matrixbob]

It even says that there should only be One Chief for the Department, refering to the SAPD.
I don't know who was made Police Chief 2nd, and why promoted to that position instead of Deputy Chief. I chose CBFasi for Assistant Chief because he's the Chief of SWAT. I don't know if CBFasi has been Police Chief longer than Pancher. and I don't see how it could be any more complicated since there are very little ranks in the SAPD anyway. Real Police Departments such as LAPD or SFPD have Commander.

I guess having a single Chief would be put to an Election?

Commander is the Captain rank for some departments.

[Andrew_R]

I agree with Ray here, SAPD is very un-organized regarding ranks and positions

[JayL]

No, the first chief was CBF. Pancher came after.

[Wayne]

I belive this decision remains to Gandalf!!

[Coley]

I belive this decision remains to Gandalf!!

^

Do you seriously think one chief can run this whole department?! No. They are organized, and know what they are doing. That is why they are still here. Also, there is a third chief now

[[Rstar]Vince]

What you're referring to, Ray, could easily be outdated.

SAPD used to have one Chief, Luca Scalise. After it was evident that he could not run the department properly as only one person with ultimate power he was forced to resign... and brought on Trix and Hank as Chiefs... Trix went inactive with Hank being the only Chief, who brought up CBF and later Pancher, where Hank then partially resigned due to his own inactivity. Hank has always been helping out with making Chief-like decisions, and had the Lieutenant rank for that reason. It was his own choice. He is now back as Chief officially.

That's your answer as to why there's more than one chief, Ray. ARPD has undergone stages where there has been only one Chief, and the results have been not that good.. if I do say so myself. (Not to be a hypocrite, as I've always believed and still do believe Luca was a great guy and chief) Yet as we (keyword we, NOT most of you) have seen, one person with full power does not work out well.


Enough of the history lesson. As for departments, at the beginning it was made so that a Captain will run a department, with two Lieutenants as his left and right arm, with Sergeants in command positions of the department equivalent to Lieutenants in the SAPD.

As time went on, it changed a bit, and adjusted accordingly. With my promotion I made the decision I still wanted to be with LSPD, as I wasn't about to let all my hard work go to waste and there was no one suitable for Captain at the time. Other departments adopted more Lieutenants, and now LVPD has its own Chief.

Currently there is little organization as to department-SAPD correlation, but in the not-so-distant future it may well look like this...

Chief or Deputy Chief supervises one department - currently myself with LSPD, Hank with LVPD, CBF with DPD/SFPD and Pancher with DPD/SFPD.

Captain/Commander of the department - Meaning a Captain or Lieutenant who runs the department and is highest in command, second to the supervisory figure.

Lieutenant(s) - Right and left arms of the Commander/Captain

Sergeant(s) - Command Staff of the department, and are treated like so depending on what department. (EXAMPLE: LSPD Sergeants have less power as we have more man power, LVPD just opening with few Sergeants have more power as there are few LVPD command posistions).

I hope that answers your question Ray and any others who were wondering. Feel free to post if you're still confused.

[[Rstar]Vince]

I belive this decision remains to Gandalf!!

And I think Gandalf is much busier with much more important things. He put leaders at their position for a reason. They are there to lead things, and of course ask advise if needed. Gandalf is not the ARPD Chief, but the President. Meaning he makes the final decision if he needs to be called in, but we are here to show him we can help bring SAPD in the right direction without always having to bother him. Even if that means making decisions to get things done.

[RayCarter]

I would never recommend having a single Chief to run the SAPD.
I'm trying to suggest having a single Police Chief and several Deputy Chiefs.

Like what would happen if the Chief's couldn't decide on something,
nobody would have the power to overrule a decision because they are all equal.

not that it's common

[Jcstodds]

I think my self proclaimed "Sheriff" rank lies somewhere in the grey area of the cycle between Freecop and Chief. 

[Dutchy]

I think my self proclaimed "Sheriff" rank lies somewhere in the grey area of the cycle between Freecop and Chief. 

Gratz on your 1000th post, sir!

[Wayne]

And I think Gandalf is much busier with much more important things. He put leaders at their position for a reason. They are there to lead things, and of course ask advise if needed. Gandalf is not the ARPD Chief, but the President. Meaning he makes the final decision if he needs to be called in, but we are here to show him we can help bring SAPD in the right direction without always having to bother him. Even if that means making decisions to get things done.

I belive any major changes about SAPD administration, Gandalf must be called.

[Oliver Daniels]

I think my self proclaimed "Sheriff" rank lies somewhere in the grey area of the cycle between Freecop and Chief. 

You're right below chief and right above freecop.

[JDC]

I believe that the best decision-making body in the absence of the Adminstrators would be a General Council of the Chiefs and Directors (and maybe their Deputies too) from the different PDs and FBI subdivisions.

If given full power, the Council should be able to make even the most important decisions (that do not go as far as circumventing the Administrators' authority) by executing a unanimous vote, where a proposal is vetoed if even one objects. That is how the senates of several countries make their decisions, so why not give it a try?

[SafetyMoose]

I believe that the best decision-making body in the absence of the Adminstrators would be a General Council of the Chiefs and Directors (and maybe their Deputies too) from the different PDs and FBI subdivisions.

If given full power, the Council should be able to make even the most important decisions (that do not go as far as circumventing the Administrators' authority) by executing a unanimous vote, where a proposal is vetoed if even one objects. That is how the senates of several countries make their decisions, so why not give it a try?

democracy takes way to long. A great quote from the movie Crimson Tides is when the Submarine Captain tells his first officer.

"We are here to defend democracy, not practice it"

[RayCarter]

I didn't wanna unlock my own complaint and ask why the hell things were taking so long, but I remained patient.
It's had no reply but just moved to Closed Investigations for inactivity. You think I had forgotten?

I'd like an answer.

[James Bowling]

I didn't wanna unlock my own complaint and ask why the hell things were taking so long, but I remained patient.
It's had no reply but just moved to Closed Investigations for inactivity. You think I had forgotten?

I'd like an answer.

You Complained about something.. Not reported something..

You stated something..

Not asked something...

Asking you get answer

Stating you get silence.


O BTW if they moved it to closed that means its over and your voice was heard and no action was taken. (I think Really have no idea)

[RayCarter]

Maybe you shouldn't reply Jimmy if you're speaking on behalf of the command staff cuz I'm likely to target you when I know you've done nothing wrong.

I'm not asking to be rehired. I'd be happy with the reason being changed, or Matrixbob being punished for the reason.
I'd also like to know whatever GiacJr may have misread had not influenced Matrixbob's decision to fire me.

That was my report. I've been waiting long enough and nothing has been done, not even a reply.
I'm still fired for a crap reason and it's still not been changed or lifted.

[James Bowling]

As a Fellow officer my recommendation would be just to reapply because you would already have the experience and training so you would be put on the fast tract to officer.

[Joseph_Allen]

Not wanting to derail this topic but have you guys noticed the people we interact with these days? It's like this server is turning to a DM server. Where was the RP I used to know? I haven't been here for long but at least I've seen a bit.

People these days don't even bother with traffic stops. They just evade, I have to /su, chase them, then go pew pew pew pew on their tires. I can't even arrest them because they just keep running even if they're only 1 shot left from getting killed.

Where were the golden times that I used to know?