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Offline Ben

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Re: SA:MP | State your Situations, Questions & Ideas
« Reply #520 on: November 06, 2011, 13:19:57 pm »
Frequently asked question:

"What happens when there are no Administrators and Sergeants+ to unsuspect?"

If everything above is checked, the only option you have here is to detain the suspect in the cells with less jail serve timing. State in the police radio the reason you jailed the suspect and the time.
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I'll remove this bit of my post when it's editted  :D



I do agree with Max on this one (I finally realised where you got your name yesterday btw!) in some ways...shitting on Command Staff is very vague, and if I see it as a reason for firing, it makes me curious as to what happened.
I've said things like "I expected better from you" to certain Command members in the past, but thats behind me and the issue has long been settled...my point is, if issues like mine were resolved, then others can also settle theres in a gentlemanly/womanly fashion, instead of a straight-out "you're fired" attitude. I doubt anyone here is Sir Alan Sugar ;)
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Offline Huntsman

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Re: SA:MP | State your Situations, Questions & Ideas
« Reply #521 on: November 06, 2011, 13:25:03 pm »
Frequently asked question:

"What happens when there are no Administrators and Sergeants+ to unsuspect?"

If everything above is checked, the only option you have here is to detain the suspect in the cells with less jail serve timing. State in the police radio the reason you jailed the suspect and the time.
Senior Officer*
I'll remove this bit of my post when it's editted  :D



I do agree with Max on this one (I finally realised where you got your name yesterday btw!) in some ways...shitting on Command Staff is very vague, and if I see it as a reason for firing, it makes me curious as to what happened.
I've said things like "I expected better from you" to certain Command members in the past, but thats behind me and the issue has long been settled...my point is, if issues like mine were resolved, then others can also settle theres in a gentlemanly/womanly fashion, instead of a straight-out "you're fired" attitude. I doubt anyone here is Sir Alan Sugar ;)

Exactly what i see from my point of view..

A bit Off topic: "I finally realised where you got your name yesterday btw!"

What about that? :D
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Offline Ben

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Re: SA:MP | State your Situations, Questions & Ideas
« Reply #522 on: November 06, 2011, 13:44:55 pm »
The film Max Payne  :D
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Re: SA:MP | State your Situations, Questions & Ideas
« Reply #523 on: November 06, 2011, 13:58:10 pm »
The film Max Payne  :D

The film was shit..

This is what it is based on :D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Payne
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Offline Ben

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Re: SA:MP | State your Situations, Questions & Ideas
« Reply #524 on: November 07, 2011, 09:05:14 am »
My bad...film based off videogame  :roll:
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Re: SA:MP | State your Situations, Questions & Ideas
« Reply #525 on: November 22, 2011, 14:17:36 pm »
I suggest a fixation of DPD.

The DPD way includes driving fast, doin' stunts, and deporting mexicans!

The DPD way includes speeding, reckless driving and endangerment, and racial discrimination.

I don't have a problem with the mexican part, purely because it's mainly RP and I don't believe it's an actual law being broken. However, there is still speeding and reckless driving/endangerment. All of these are against the laws in which DPD and SAPD are supposed to enforce. Last time I checked, DPD laws were not above the Argonath laws, nor were the officers above the law. And yes, this is corruption believe it or not. What good is a police department if the actual police don't enforce laws? If the police can break laws, why can't the citizens? Remember, police are NOT above the law.


In before someone says if you don't like it leave. I will not leave until something is done about this corruption. I would rather be kicked from DPD or SAPD as a whole then sit here and watch knowing I could have done something to help, but didn't. Even when I do leave, or get kicked, I will still always be here trying to help fix DPD.


(side note to DPD command; if you need help/ideas for fixing DPD(if you will fix it all), feel free to shoot me a forum PM amd I will gladly answer it.)


(more ideas after school)
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Re: SA:MP | State your Situations, Questions & Ideas
« Reply #526 on: November 22, 2011, 14:52:05 pm »
I suggest a fixation of DPD.

The DPD way includes driving fast, doin' stunts, and deporting mexicans!

The DPD way includes speeding, reckless driving and endangerment, and racial discrimination.

I don't have a problem with the mexican part, purely because it's mainly RP and I don't believe it's an actual law being broken. However, there is still speeding and reckless driving/endangerment. All of these are against the laws in which DPD and SAPD are supposed to enforce. Last time I checked, DPD laws were not above the Argonath laws, nor were the officers above the law. And yes, this is corruption believe it or not. What good is a police department if the actual police don't enforce laws? If the police can break laws, why can't the citizens? Remember, police are NOT above the law.


In before someone says if you don't like it leave. I will not leave until something is done about this corruption. I would rather be kicked from DPD or SAPD as a whole then sit here and watch knowing I could have done something to help, but didn't. Even when I do leave, or get kicked, I will still always be here trying to help fix DPD.


(side note to DPD command; if you need help/ideas for fixing DPD(if you will fix it all), feel free to shoot me a forum PM amd I will gladly answer it.)


(more ideas after school)

Well its not really nice to see officer pointing out his own department's mistakes publicly. I mean you find something wrong in your department, then contact your leaders. But going publicly pointing out mistakes of your department, won't help anyone, it will just make certain department look bad. As well if you want to fix something, you need to set example yourself and show what you want to see from your department, not to just wait your department CMD to do something.

Offline Reece

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Re: SA:MP | State your Situations, Questions & Ideas
« Reply #527 on: November 22, 2011, 16:41:29 pm »
The DPD way includes driving fast, doin' stunts, and deporting mexicans!

That has always been DPD and always will be what DPD is; while it is only certain officers who do what you mention here.

The DPD way includes speeding, reckless driving and endangerment, and racial discrimination.

That would be thanks to foundations set in place by Captain Jcstoods, those foundations have never changed and are what make up DPD. People know who it is acceptable to do it to and where the limit is; while no officers are excempt from any law at any time, having fun at DPD is what is DPD; can you take that away from the people who enjoy DPD for the RP and fun element that makes us strong?


I don't have a problem with the mexican part, purely because it's mainly RP and I don't believe it's an actual law being broken. However, there is still speeding and reckless driving/endangerment. All of these are against the laws in which DPD and SAPD are supposed to enforce. Last time I checked, DPD laws were not above the Argonath laws, nor were the officers above the law. And yes, this is corruption believe it or not. What good is a police department if the actual police don't enforce laws? If the police can break laws, why can't the citizens? Remember, police are NOT above the law.

Nobody has claimed we are above the law at any point; what make DPD unique is some of the points you have mentioned, if officers are driving through populated areas at full speed not responding to a situation, the yes, of course that will not be tolerated but from what I am aware of, DPD only do it in the country, where infact the speed limits are higher than that of the city and hardly ever break 120.

If you see officers driving full wack through cities more than once, ie, breaking regulations, make a report.

In before someone says if you don't like it leave. I will not leave until something is done about this corruption. I would rather be kicked from DPD or SAPD as a whole then sit here and watch knowing I could have done something to help, but didn't. Even when I do leave, or get kicked, I will still always be here trying to help fix DPD.


Again, see my previous point, if you do in-fact see corruption, report it, to my PM would be prefable as you should always fix inner department issues with your own command first. You are not going to be kicked or fired for voicing opinions, this is not an autocracy.

(side note to DPD command; if you need help/ideas for fixing DPD(if you will fix it all), feel free to shoot me a forum PM amd I will gladly answer it.)

Will bear it in mind.



Offline Ben

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Re: SA:MP | State your Situations, Questions & Ideas
« Reply #528 on: November 22, 2011, 17:22:48 pm »
I suggest a fixation of DPD.

The DPD way includes driving fast, doin' stunts, and deporting mexicans!
Only those who happily RP Mexicans with us.

The DPD way includes speeding, reckless driving and endangerment, and racial discrimination.
Again, only for those who RP with us that way. We don't actually endanger civilian lives, and RP in that way only with people who wish to.

I don't have a problem with the mexican part, purely because it's mainly RP and I don't believe it's an actual law being broken. However, there is still speeding and reckless driving/endangerment. All of these are against the laws in which DPD and SAPD are supposed to enforce. Last time I checked, DPD laws were not above the Argonath laws, nor were the officers above the law. And yes, this is corruption believe it or not. What good is a police department if the actual police don't enforce laws? If the police can break laws, why can't the citizens? Remember, police are NOT above the law.
No-one said we were above the law. We simply RP Officers who are not seen as normal by the city cops...we do our job bloody well IMO, and no-one has complained about it until you just did.

In before someone says if you don't like it leave. I will not leave until something is done about this corruption. I would rather be kicked from DPD or SAPD as a whole then sit here and watch knowing I could have done something to help, but didn't. Even when I do leave, or get kicked, I will still always be here trying to help fix DPD.
Corruption? I don't want to sit here and see DPD corrupted into a city police department. We enjoy our RP, as do our "victims". Please don't take what we enjoy away from us...we've been going a long time.
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Re: SA:MP | State your Situations, Questions & Ideas
« Reply #529 on: November 22, 2011, 20:02:24 pm »
However, there is still speeding and reckless driving/endangerment. All of these are against the laws in which DPD and SAPD are supposed to enforce. Last time I checked, DPD laws were not above the Argonath laws, nor were the officers above the law. And yes, this is corruption believe it or not. What good is a police department if the actual police don't enforce laws? If the police can break laws, why can't the citizens? Remember, police are NOT above the law.
Couldn't agree more.

Offline Pepper

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Re: SA:MP | State your Situations, Questions & Ideas
« Reply #530 on: November 22, 2011, 22:43:19 pm »
DPD members think they are above the law. They feel they can break the law and get away with it. I'm all for fun, but you have to have your officers enforcing laws or else police are useless.

@Plam: Two attempts were made to high command in DPD, but to my knowledge, nothing ever happened.

@Ben: "Police corruption is the abuse of police authority for personal gain." personal gain in this being speeding to get places faster, reckless driving, to again get places faster and using police authority no not be suspected/fined.

@Cabrit: Reporting wouldn't do much, IMO.
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Re: SA:MP | State your Situations, Questions & Ideas
« Reply #531 on: November 22, 2011, 22:54:13 pm »
So if the officers who are being corrupt are never reported how are we going to act? Any officer in DPD doing the things you said, report to my PM.

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Re: SA:MP | State your Situations, Questions & Ideas
« Reply #532 on: November 22, 2011, 23:56:07 pm »
So if the officers who are being corrupt are never reported how are we going to act? Any officer in DPD doing the things you said, report to my PM.
I can actually attest to this being allowed at one point. I've witnessed some accidentally leaked info over the last year that has since been removed by the SAPD Chiefs due to it's content, but it was promoting some of the things in question here. Obviously SAPD did the right thing by removing said content to demote law-breaking, but it still makes me beg the question as to why it was posted in the first place, and what is being done now to continue to demote those negative procedures. I'm not trying to blame or accuse anyone, nor am I attempting to attack DPD as I know it has changed Command since then, but if users are still complaining of these same issues happening, it makes me wonder if specific people, even if not Command Staff, are still promoting this. Can anyone in DPD or SAPD comment on this? I'm a bit curious myself as I have a personal hate for police corruption both IRL and IG, so it bothers me quite a bit to see this topic existing at all.

Offline Pepper

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Re: SA:MP | State your Situations, Questions & Ideas
« Reply #533 on: November 23, 2011, 00:17:21 am »
So if the officers who are being corrupt are never reported how are we going to act? Any officer in DPD doing the things you said, report to my PM.
At the moment, officers hardly know it's disallowed.
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Offline [Rstar]Paul

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Re: SA:MP | State your Situations, Questions & Ideas
« Reply #534 on: November 23, 2011, 09:03:15 am »
Chiefs are making some minor changes within the department, stand by for now.

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Re: SA:MP | State your Situations, Questions & Ideas
« Reply #535 on: November 23, 2011, 09:08:43 am »
Post to be updated, though I have to mention a lot of those problems are not just to DPD, and I'm not happy that my department takes the blame for all of this. I've seen officers from multiple departments driving recklessly, not just DPD.
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Re: SA:MP | State your Situations, Questions & Ideas
« Reply #536 on: November 23, 2011, 17:02:56 pm »
Post to be updated, though I have to mention a lot of those problems are not just to DPD, and I'm not happy that my department takes the blame for all of this. I've seen officers from multiple departments driving recklessly, not just DPD.
Yes, but the problem is DPD standardized this to become a normal thing to do.
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Offline Ben

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Re: SA:MP | State your Situations, Questions & Ideas
« Reply #537 on: November 23, 2011, 17:58:59 pm »
Post to be updated, though I have to mention a lot of those problems are not just to DPD, and I'm not happy that my department takes the blame for all of this. I've seen officers from multiple departments driving recklessly, not just DPD.
Yes, but the problem is DPD standardized this to become a normal thing to do.
Where?  :conf:
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Re: SA:MP | State your Situations, Questions & Ideas
« Reply #538 on: November 25, 2011, 12:51:29 pm »
Just little Idea,I think Sergeant should have moderator rights also at "Report to Leaders" since they can help to investigate the reports against thier Officers.

Offline [Rstar]Paul

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Re: SA:MP | State your Situations, Questions & Ideas
« Reply #539 on: November 25, 2011, 14:09:15 pm »
Sergeants can only handle ARPD officer reports.
Lieutenants + (SAPD CMD) handle local department member reports.

Which is why they are for Lt+

 

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