San Andreas Police Department | Q&A

[Plam Knight]

The do-it-yourself-attitude is pretty messed up.

Sorry that we are making people actually do something in order to achieve something, rather then giving it like a cookie, I don't know in which organisation you have seen something to be given that easy, but that organisation is not SAPD and hopefully it will never be.

How do you expect players to be aware of the procedures, regulations and the drill if they have no idea what SWAT is about? Why not bring your experience further and teach the ones who find it interest? Currently does whole SAPD upper command lays their trust on old schoolers, instead of teach newcommers who are probaly interested in a higher spot and with introduction and training they will hopefully make a very good job aswell.

SWAT is a journey everyone should be able to try out, atleast as SAPD Officer. The best in Argonath

What S.W.A.T has to do with police regulations/procedures ?

If person is interested within S.W.A.T, he will find information about it and if he really does have skills, he will be recognized.

How is our trust laying in so called "old schoolers" when half of our current SWAT team has about top 1 year experience within the force.

Everyone are able to try out as long as they are ready to take that step.

Everyone is interested in a higher spot but they should work like everyone else to reach it.

Isn't it ironic people get reinstated to a command rank when they left in anger?
SAPD lays their trust in oldschoolers and have no plans to give newcommers the chance to prove them selves.

You have any issues towards how SAPD is being led - ARPD Commissiner Jaaskaa is the man you should talk to, if he agrees with you point of view, then he will fix it.

[[Rstar]Paul]

Everyone is interested in a higher spot but they should work like everyone else to reach it.

Isn't it ironic people get reinstated to a command rank when they left in anger?
SAPD lays their trust in oldschoolers and have no plans to give newcommers the chance to prove them selves.

What does that have to do with anything? Just because we disagree with your proposal doesn't mean you should bring up assumptions which are not related to anything attempting to by-pass something.

chance to prove them selves.

Probably your one of those people who failed to prove themselves and kept complaining despite the amount of resignations attempting to bring SAPD to a water-full to follow your own vision.

People kept moaning about corruption, lack of discipline? Professionalism? SAPD Officers unable to lead ARPD Officers in a proper manner? And i actually pulled my fingers out with Jaaskaa and fixed it.
Oh wait.. we have more complaining / ranting here of how we should all consider a vision to follow immediately.

Sorry, but the answer is a no for the SWAT suggestion as the division has a elite role to fill, recruitment is a major role.

[Ben]

I hope noone was referring to my reinstatement incorrectly

[Huntsman]

Everyone is interested in a higher spot but they should work like everyone else to reach it.

Isn't it ironic people get reinstated to a command rank when they left in anger?
SAPD lays their trust in oldschoolers and have no plans to give newcommers the chance to prove them selves.

SIR, this by far was the most epic statement i ever heard.

Once again it isnt really fair from my side to criticize, when  i'm usually the one being criticized, but i really agree with Mash. SAPD is putting more efforts in elder staff in SAPD, rather than those newcomers. It doenst want to let those "old-schoolers" to get away and replace them with the new officers. I mean, they value old officers much more than the newcomers, which in the future may proove even better than the older ones.

[[Rstar]Paul]

Everyone is interested in a higher spot but they should work like everyone else to reach it.

Isn't it ironic people get reinstated to a command rank when they left in anger?
SAPD lays their trust in oldschoolers and have no plans to give newcommers the chance to prove them selves.

SIR, this by far was the most epic statement i ever heard.

Once again it isnt really fair from my side to criticize, when  i'm usually the one being criticized, but i really agree with Mash. SAPD is putting more efforts in elder staff in SAPD, rather than those newcomers. It doenst want to let those "old-schoolers" to get away and replace them with the new officers. I mean, they value old officers much more than the newcomers, which in the future may proove even better than the older ones.

SIR, this by far was the most epic statement i ever heard.

Once again it isnt really fair from my side to criticize, when  i'm usually the one being criticized, but i really agree with Mash. SAPD is putting more efforts in elder staff in SAPD, rather than those newcomers. It doenst want to let those "old-schoolers" to get away and replace them with the new officers. I mean, they value old officers much more than the newcomers, which in the future may proove even better than the older ones.

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You don't like how SAPD is running? Why bother applying? Get over yourself seriously with the false assumptions. Whatever the SAPD Command do, you respect it or get your face out of here and that was said by Gandalf.
Pack your bags and go elsewhere. Otherwise shut your mouth. I worked my ass off from Cadet to Chief without a single word of doubt. And every single one of use can do that.

The more you moan and complain, the more your opportunities are getting worse. Get it straight otherwise you'll end up nowhere.

Let me remind you that over 5 people got perm banned from all ARPD forces for 18 months by me and Jaaskaa for the similar reasons you both are committing.
So if you wish to follow that path, you are welcomed to face the consequences.

You are showing aboulste no interest in your SAPD career as you feel there are some glitches around here to show how gentlemen you are and a apology is needed.

As for you Max, Gandalf already warned you.

Everyone who disagreed with SAPD command in this topic is not going to get any other position as officer for a long time.

Do you know what words forum means? It means a discussion, and in a discussion, people usually state their opinions and feelings about a certain topic, which at this point , is  a SAPD lockdown.
If you feel that my opinion is unacceptable to you - do not read it, and yet, dont waste your time replying to it. And you know , you have just basically said the same thing Cyril just said. "Be like others and be cool".
 I dont think this applies in this situation.

A forum means a place of assembly. You show complete ignorance in every post, which means that you are correct that someone made a mistake accepting you as cadet.

[James Moretti]

I'll shut up 

[Huntsman]

Excuse me? What do i have to apologize for? I did not offend anyone. I agreed to an opinion, and added my own part to it. Why does that topic have a title "State your questions and concerns, ideas and etc" afer all? Is Argonath turning into communism, where you cant tell anything against someone from the high up otherwise you will end up in prison?

I said nothing wrong , i did not break any rule or regulation. If you feel that it's the right decision - go ahead and deny me. But i'm atleast expecting you to justify that decision of yours. Finally someone has showed their true colors..

So, what exactly will you achieve with this? Just once again proove how much power you are and tell people what will happen if they say anything against SAPD? Officers are already covered in fear, afraid that if they say atleast a word against you or anyone else from the command, they might get into trouble. This is not the ARPD i recall... I remember that command used to accept criticism and try to look more into it, rather than just shuting everyone up issues free copbans.


[admin]USER IS NOW FORUM BANNED.- Ignoring warnings despite how many times warned. No longer welcomed to the forums after 3 forum bans and multiple warnings, advices. Ignoring Gandalf's warning about showing complete ignorance in every forum post + showing disobedience towards ARPD forces.[/admin]

[[Rstar]Paul]

Excuse me? What do i have to apologize for? I did not offend anyone. I agreed to an opinion, and added my own part to it. Why does that topic have a title "State your questions and concerns, ideas and etc" afer all? Is Argonath turning into communism, where you cant tell anything against someone from the high up otherwise you will end up in prison?

I said nothing wrong that , i did not break any rule or regulation. If you feel that it's the right decision - go ahead and deny me. I wont be bothered one bit, because i would know that i was denied unjustfully. Finally someone has showed their true colors..

Is Argonath turning into communism

That point right there is a community ban offence.

You've caused enough damage towards the ARPD forces, and still can't find the correct path on what you seek to do, because you fail at doing so by bringing up false assumptions and statements which are completely excessive. Even after i tried helping you, you disappointed me by ignoring my warnings after the forum ban was issued by JDC. And now, you will return to that position because there is no other option for me to decide on what i should do to you.
You are now permanently denied as many chances have been given from many superiors all over APRD + Gandalf.

Good bye and good luck on whatever you seek.
As you wish, i tried to give you another chance - but it seems you are not willing to take the step.

Cheers.

[Kenny]

Excuse me? What do i have to apologize for? I did not offend anyone. I agreed to an opinion, and added my own part to it. Why does that topic have a title "State your questions and concerns, ideas and etc" afer all? Is Argonath turning into communism, where you cant tell anything against someone from the high up otherwise you will end up in prison?

You are correct with this topic being 'state your questions, concerns and ideas'. We do not limit you from doing that, in fact we encourage you. But understand this once you have shared your idea and SAPD Upper Command have looked into and gave you a response, there is no reason you should keep on insisting to a point where you get frustrated and you start accusation or speak inappropriately.

I said nothing wrong , i did not break any rule or regulation. If you feel that it's the right decision - go ahead and deny me. But i'm atleast expecting you to justify that decision of yours. Finally someone has showed their true colors....So, what exactly will you achieve with this? Just once again proove how much power you are and tell people what will happen if they say anything against SAPD?

The Chief has been polite with you issuing you warnings and tried to advise you, guide you yet you choose to ignore his friendly warnings took it for an invitation to a debate and insisted on expressing your opinion in an aggravated manner with accusation. You have pushed your limits and for how everyone acts they will be treated that way, so do not be suprised with his reply as you have shown him how low and irritating you can be.

Officers are already covered in fear, afraid that if they say atleast a word against you or anyone else from the command, they might get into trouble. This is not the ARPD i recall... I remember that command used to accept criticism and try to look more into it, rather than just shuting everyone up issues free copbans.

Your first sentence is the shit we need to hear from you that gets you banned. You claim you said nothing wrong yet in the same post you post such things. You remember times command used to do this and that, well we remember times when officers used to be professional in their respective fields, follow the chain of command, carry their duty and uphold the law. But as you say Command is changing then understand the officer are changing too, we are in a new era...You think the command does not have old members from past command present now? maybe your sources are misinformed...

[James Moretti]

Sorry Paul, won't happen again.


And there is no need to reject my application, because I don't have one...

[[Rstar]Paul]

Anyone who attempts to test out the SAPD Command's temper in this topic or any other place will end up in no good.
Think before you post. Hopefully nothing is taken to offence as the strictest way is much easier to communicate with if they do ignore the first warning of kindness.

- Would this criticize the work of the SAPD Command?
- Would this exceed the limitations of the SAPD / Argonath vision?

If you bring up false assumptions, please reconsider what you have posted. This is no opinion topic how things should be ran as everything is sorted out from scratch, nor suggestions will be considered unless they are beyond the Argonath vision. Whether you wish to argue or point out how good you are in bringing up assumptions, you are considered as a normal member.

SAPD Command are hard working members selected with full trust, no one dares to disrespect them or test them on how they work. Bringing up facts such as he is a new player to be in the SAPD or is a old player in the SAPD is just rubbish.. SAPD Command are similar to Argonath RPG Server Managers in a police wise. Suggestions and Ideas won't be accepted that easy, you won't be notified nor contacted if it is accepted or not. SAPD Command can sometimes get out of hand in terms of responses because there is too much stress for them and tasks for them to fill whilst others disrespect that.

Treat all policing with respect as much as you treat your boss. We do not limit anyone from posting something here, but do realize that you are in no position to consider what is right and what is wrong and how things should work. We are assigned for a duty, and that duty fills up the space of how SAPD should be running. The assignments mainly come from President Gandalf to me and Jaaskaa to process. Saying that this is not running good or he should not be here is a assumptions when you have no idea what you are trying to prove nor been to the SAPD Command to experience on what is happening.

Be proud that we are open police group instead of a strict force that has no ARPD officers and has a strict application process. Be enhanced by the leadership and fun that has been provided by the SAPD Developers. Be happy that you have a organization which offers you many experience with many opportunities. Be GLAD that you have a role in this department over others who TRY as much as they can to get in this organization. Be HAPPY that you have a SAPD Command being creative and supporting the leadership and developing the best ideas for their roles to fill up their duties. Be proud that you have a opportunity to learn a new role in various departments offering a entertainment center with creativity.

The SAPD officers are not supposed to be restrained to play such police role play characters as they want, but the command staff must show them the correct standards, and to prevent any abuse of the police power. The aim of SAPD is to have role play scenarios where both sides agrees on 'punishment' of the law, and all players "win", this includes all citizens, law enforcers and criminals. We must never forget we are playing for entertainment.

With the recent posts made by several people, they are considered as SAPD Command are children with no duties nor brains which is a punishable offence depending if you have been warned in the past or not.  Last thing is that you should never tell ANY SAPD Command member how to do their jobs.

We come here to relax and have fun with the current structure, and you should be thanking the people volunteering and giving their time in being more responsible for big steps to keep the policing side more stable. That is why our SAPD Command team are selected with full trust. Not agreeing with SAPD Command or attempting to be disobedient against them means you have no utter remorse of what you are showing.

[KhornateMonkey]

Will there be anymore departments arriving in SAPD? Such as the Traffic Department. What are your plans for the future?

[[Rstar]Paul]

Currently we won't be implementing any other divisions until we get the current ones full stable. Then will be implementing a Highway Patrol Division globally in the SAPD.

[Pepper]

if someone were to have been fired for a seemingly unknown reason and evidence provided doesn't show anything against this person,  is this person fired wrongly?

[[Rstar]Paul]

if someone were to have been fired for a seemingly unknown reason and evidence provided doesn't show anything against this person,  is this person fired wrongly?

As for you, nope.

Final decision was made by Jaaskaa, agree with it or not. Even if you think it's valid or not.

Who are you going to convince that you are innocent? Gandalf, Jaaskaa and myself have been the decision against those people. And you are one of those people who like to act over themselves. You're considered as a follower with them to us.

Bad luck, you had a big mouth against the SAPD by occasions. Let's see how you go on that other server with your mighty friends. Then sometime you'll consider your mistakes and start apologizing.

[Pepper]

if someone were to have been fired for a seemingly unknown reason and evidence provided doesn't show anything against this person,  is this person fired wrongly?

As for you, nope.

Final decision was made by Jaaskaa, agree with it or not. Even if you think it's valid or not.

Who are you going to convince that you are innocent? Gandalf, Jaaskaa and myself have been the decision against those people. And you are one of those people who like to act over themselves. You're considered as a follower with them to us.

Bad luck, you had a big mouth against the SAPD by occasions. Let's see how you go on that other server with your mighty friends. Then sometime you'll consider your mistakes and start apologizing.

you do realize i didn't say anything? ''other server'' sir, that has gotten people banned multiple times because it is slang for a different roleplay server. was i fired for being in the teamspeak channel?

[[Rstar]Paul]

if someone were to have been fired for a seemingly unknown reason and evidence provided doesn't show anything against this person,  is this person fired wrongly?

As for you, nope.

Final decision was made by Jaaskaa, agree with it or not. Even if you think it's valid or not.

Who are you going to convince that you are innocent? Gandalf, Jaaskaa and myself have been the decision against those people. And you are one of those people who like to act over themselves. You're considered as a follower with them to us.

Bad luck, you had a big mouth against the SAPD by occasions. Let's see how you go on that other server with your mighty friends. Then sometime you'll consider your mistakes and start apologizing.

you do realize i didn't say anything? ''other server'' sir, that has gotten people banned multiple times because it is slang for a different roleplay server. was i fired for being in the teamspeak channel?

Door is waiting for you.
At the moment, your wasting your time attempting to convince me or anyone around here. Not working so far, and will be impossible to work for.

Choose your path with your mighty friends, because you are not welcomed to the SAPD anymore. Nor to any ARPD Force.
That is final.

[Orel]

thought it would be nice to make an open poll about the sapd.. make a form of that with some questions and post it on the main forums and let people say what ever they think about sapd, so you can see what can you improve

[[Rstar]Paul]

Not really necessary as we are on a development stage currently. Perhaps when RS5 is opened or so, we can do that.
Because it would cause somethings un-related to be said without being sure and alike. That's why i prefer it to be made when everything is fully done.

Got heaps of things to implement, but have to do them slowly. But it's pretty much interesting.. 

[Darxez]

I'm accepted some days ago. I'm assigned to the LSPD.

Am I allowed to as a training to somebody who is not in my district ?