San Andreas Police Department | Q&A

[Thomas_Crof]

Are you allowed to use the wrong ramp if you are in direct pursuit (meaning, you have visual on the suspect)? The reason I'm asking is because if you take the correct ramp, you're often much slower which means you could lose visual and as a result of that, the suspect could escape.

Still awaiting answer!

[Andrew Banks]

Why cant a lawyer protect a citizen in a report case on him/her? I find this quite outrages, cause EVERYONE deserves a attorney...

[Janar]

Are you allowed to use the wrong ramp if you are in direct pursuit (meaning, you have visual on the suspect)? The reason I'm asking is because if you take the correct ramp, you're often much slower which means you could lose visual and as a result of that, the suspect could escape.

Still awaiting answer!

Bump on this.

[Andrew Banks]

Why cant a lawyer protect a citizen in a report case on him/her? I find this quite outrages, cause EVERYONE deserves a attorney...

BUMB

[Chris Knight]

Why cant a lawyer protect a citizen in a report case on him/her? I find this quite outrages, cause EVERYONE deserves a attorney...

BUMB

Because ARPD reports are investigated inside police enforcement by ARPD Command staff as this is not a court case,lawyer have no role here as investigations are inside matter and are done only by law enforcement investigating directly officer and therefore communicating with face to face,rather by a side person who can twist the story. 

So shortly to say,ARPD forum is not a court hall section therefore,court hall rules do not apply here.

[Chris Knight]

Are you allowed to use the wrong ramp if you are in direct pursuit (meaning, you have visual on the suspect)? The reason I'm asking is because if you take the correct ramp, you're often much slower which means you could lose visual and as a result of that, the suspect could escape.

Still awaiting answer!

Bump on this.

It is allowed drive on wrong ramp taking careful turn to avoid as much as possible collision in case there is incoming vehicle. But only if you are in pursuit of fugitive or prior shots fired call,not because FD asked your assistance at fire situation.

[[WS]Mike]

Are you allowed to use the wrong ramp if you are in direct pursuit (meaning, you have visual on the suspect)? The reason I'm asking is because if you take the correct ramp, you're often much slower which means you could lose visual and as a result of that, the suspect could escape.

Still awaiting answer!

Bump on this.

It is allowed drive on wrong ramp taking careful turn to avoid as much as possible collision in case there is incoming vehicle. But only if you are in pursuit of fugitive or prior shots fired call,not because FD asked your assistance at fire situation.

Have a Captain + answer this one. I was under the impression that you were not allowed up under any circumstances.

[Chris Knight]

Are you allowed to use the wrong ramp if you are in direct pursuit (meaning, you have visual on the suspect)? The reason I'm asking is because if you take the correct ramp, you're often much slower which means you could lose visual and as a result of that, the suspect could escape.

Still awaiting answer!

Bump on this.

It is allowed drive on wrong ramp taking careful turn to avoid as much as possible collision in case there is incoming vehicle. But only if you are in pursuit of fugitive or prior shots fired call,not because FD asked your assistance at fire situation.

Have a Captain + answer this one. I was under the impression that you were not allowed up under any circumstances.

In that case all police officers driving on wrong lane during pursuit should be punished as equal as driving on wrong ramp,think logically not be under an impression,or at least read the police regulation where it points out that c30/207 are prior calls and you must respond as fast as possible,which includes you being effective on the road.

[[WS]Mike]

I'll wait for a Captain +. (Like it says in the main post)

[Chris Knight]

I'll make sure draw attention of captain + specially for this question.

[[Rstar]Paul]

Why cant a lawyer protect a citizen in a report case on him/her? I find this quite outrages, cause EVERYONE deserves a attorney...

Not a court case. Logic.

Are you allowed to use the wrong ramp if you are in direct pursuit (meaning, you have visual on the suspect)? The reason I'm asking is because if you take the correct ramp, you're often much slower which means you could lose visual and as a result of that, the suspect could escape.

Still awaiting answer!

Bump on this.

It is allowed drive on wrong ramp taking careful turn to avoid as much as possible collision in case there is incoming vehicle. But only if you are in pursuit of fugitive or prior shots fired call,not because FD asked your assistance at fire situation.

Have a Captain + answer this one. I was under the impression that you were not allowed up under any circumstances.

In that case all police officers driving on wrong lane during pursuit should be punished as equal as driving on wrong ramp,think logically not be under an impression,or at least read the police regulation where it points out that c30/207 are prior calls and you must respond as fast as possible,which includes you being effective on the road.

Take the direction to the wrong ramp, but on the grass and then proceed.

[Padres_Rosso]

I just wondered about something, so i just state the question...

Imagine, you are infront of someone who is indirectly causing danger to your life(Propably threatening you, acting weird and offending, apparently even suspicious to a murder) and you want to take him in custody rply.

In my personal case, i'd order him to lay on the ground first of all. If he does not listen in the first place, i would aim with my Sidearm at him and order him to lay on the ground again. The first step is a simple security step, as he could always take out a gun and kill me. The second step is a safety procedure during cuffing so he cannot resist that easy.  Keep in mind, that the subject is NOT proven guilty and not suspected yet.

But am i even allowed to simply aim my firearm at a only POSSIBLE threat?

[Chris Knight]

I just wondered about something, so i just state the question...

Imagine, you are infront of someone who is indirectly causing danger to your life(Propably threatening you, acting weird and offending, apparently even suspicious to a murder) and you want to take him in custody rply.

In my personal case, i'd order him to lay on the ground first of all. If he does not listen in the first place, i would aim with my Sidearm at him and order him to lay on the ground again. The first step is a simple security step, as he could always take out a gun and kill me. The second step is a safety procedure during cuffing so he cannot resist that easy.  Keep in mind, that the subject is NOT proven guilty and not suspected yet.

But am i even allowed to simply aim my firearm at a only POSSIBLE threat?

If player is treating your life yes,however just because he acts weird there is no requirement to provoke him by exposing your weapon,or in hardest case,baton will don more than fine. But after all if it's roleplay,priority is roleplay so you can skip whole gun part in the beginning.

[Padres_Rosso]

I just wondered about something, so i just state the question...

Imagine, you are infront of someone who is indirectly causing danger to your life(Propably threatening you, acting weird and offending, apparently even suspicious to a murder) and you want to take him in custody rply.

In my personal case, i'd order him to lay on the ground first of all. If he does not listen in the first place, i would aim with my Sidearm at him and order him to lay on the ground again. The first step is a simple security step, as he could always take out a gun and kill me. The second step is a safety procedure during cuffing so he cannot resist that easy.  Keep in mind, that the subject is NOT proven guilty and not suspected yet.

But am i even allowed to simply aim my firearm at a only POSSIBLE threat?

If player is treating your life yes,however just because he acts weird there is no requirement to provoke him by exposing your weapon,or in hardest case,baton will don more than fine. But after all if it's roleplay,priority is roleplay so you can skip whole gun part in the beginning.

Alright, let me change my explanation. You are unaware of the status of a specific person, the person is known to be in posession of a Firearm. In that case, you don't just smile at him and talk arround the facts. You make sure you secure him asap so nobody gets hurt and that sometimes may require the need of a firearm. Batons could lead to a escaluation and the suspect would grab a Weapon. About the Roleplay, i would agree aswell with the gun part, but i assume, safety goes first, if roleplay or not.

Question if aiming a Firearm for security reasons still allowed is still open, a SAPD Lt+ please answer, thanks.

[Plam Knight]

I just wondered about something, so i just state the question...

Imagine, you are infront of someone who is indirectly causing danger to your life(Propably threatening you, acting weird and offending, apparently even suspicious to a murder) and you want to take him in custody rply.

In my personal case, i'd order him to lay on the ground first of all. If he does not listen in the first place, i would aim with my Sidearm at him and order him to lay on the ground again. The first step is a simple security step, as he could always take out a gun and kill me. The second step is a safety procedure during cuffing so he cannot resist that easy.  Keep in mind, that the subject is NOT proven guilty and not suspected yet.

But am i even allowed to simply aim my firearm at a only POSSIBLE threat?

If player is treating your life yes,however just because he acts weird there is no requirement to provoke him by exposing your weapon,or in hardest case,baton will don more than fine. But after all if it's roleplay,priority is roleplay so you can skip whole gun part in the beginning.

Alright, let me change my explanation. You are unaware of the status of a specific person, the person is known to be in posession of a Firearm. In that case, you don't just smile at him and talk arround the facts. You make sure you secure him asap so nobody gets hurt and that sometimes may require the need of a firearm. Batons could lead to a escaluation and the suspect would grab a Weapon. About the Roleplay, i would agree aswell with the gun part, but i assume, safety goes first, if roleplay or not.

Question if aiming a Firearm for security reasons still allowed is still open, a SAPD Lt+ please answer, thanks.

First you are the 10000 person that jumps to higher and higher rank, when someone gives you explanation.
Within both ACSD and SAPD we have structure called - "Chain of command". Which strictly says whatever question or issue you posses, you start from the lowest rank in the chain of command and then the chain of command works itself up.
Currently you received an answer from the lowest rank in our chain of command, because he saw he is capable to answer, the next command rank will get involved only if he thinks he is unable to answer.
So stop jumping from rank to rank, won't make any difference.

Now to answer your question as Chris already said, as long as the suspect is not DIRECT danger towards you or anyone around you, you shouldn't point a gun at him. Of course if you know that he is armed, you should one in mind, which means stay behind somekind of cover while talking with that person. So even if he attempts to open fire at you or anything sort alike, you will still have the time to react.
So a straight answer to your question is - "Yes, if you feel treathen you can aim your firearm at the suspect, but any reaction that might occure after can be a reaction towards your own."

[Padres_Rosso]

I just wondered about something, so i just state the question...

Imagine, you are infront of someone who is indirectly causing danger to your life(Propably threatening you, acting weird and offending, apparently even suspicious to a murder) and you want to take him in custody rply.

In my personal case, i'd order him to lay on the ground first of all. If he does not listen in the first place, i would aim with my Sidearm at him and order him to lay on the ground again. The first step is a simple security step, as he could always take out a gun and kill me. The second step is a safety procedure during cuffing so he cannot resist that easy.  Keep in mind, that the subject is NOT proven guilty and not suspected yet.

But am i even allowed to simply aim my firearm at a only POSSIBLE threat?

If player is treating your life yes,however just because he acts weird there is no requirement to provoke him by exposing your weapon,or in hardest case,baton will don more than fine. But after all if it's roleplay,priority is roleplay so you can skip whole gun part in the beginning.

Alright, let me change my explanation. You are unaware of the status of a specific person, the person is known to be in posession of a Firearm. In that case, you don't just smile at him and talk arround the facts. You make sure you secure him asap so nobody gets hurt and that sometimes may require the need of a firearm. Batons could lead to a escaluation and the suspect would grab a Weapon. About the Roleplay, i would agree aswell with the gun part, but i assume, safety goes first, if roleplay or not.

Question if aiming a Firearm for security reasons still allowed is still open, a SAPD Lt+ please answer, thanks.

First you are the 10000 person that jumps to higher and higher rank, when someone gives you explanation.
Within both ACSD and SAPD we have structure called - "Chain of command". Which strictly says whatever question or issue you posses, you start from the lowest rank in the chain of command and then the chain of command works itself up.
Currently you received an answer from the lowest rank in our chain of command, because he saw he is capable to answer, the next command rank will get involved only if he thinks he is unable to answer.
So stop jumping from rank to rank, won't make any difference.

My appologies, I've been unaware that he is part of command. Won't happen again.

[.Travis.]

What should we do if we get our names changed? If there's a topic, may I get the link to it?
- For the record, [ADF]Travis. is now [=A=]Travis.[ADF]

[[WS]Mike]

What should we do if we get our names changed? If there's a topic, may I get the link to it?
- For the record, [ADF]Travis. is now [=A=]Travis.[ADF]

Here - Forum Name
Here - Name Change Report
And here! - SAPD Member Update

[Kostas]

Situation : You are on your normal patrol at C4 and while passing near a heroin spot you see a civilian in there . Once you get there you ask him to move away from the heroin spot and he does and complies all the time with what you ask ... You put him in your car and stand over the heroin spot to see if any package arrives . After waiting 3 minutes without any package arriving and try /orderheroin to see if it is availlable and it isnt availlable . So after all of this you got more chances that he ordered and took it than that he couldnt even order (note ocne you saw him threw the radar he didnt move at all until you went there and asked him to move) . So in conclusion : AS he was standing there probably he had ordered and managed to take it but you dont have any proofs about it and the well known excuse , I was just standing there or waiting for someone is his excuse .... What do you do? How can you prove that he collected the heroin and take it from him? Obviously if you RPly frisk him you wont find anything on him ...

[Bert]

Let him go if you got no evidences of him ordering