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Offline PonexReal

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Re: SA:MP | State your Situations, Questions & Ideas
« Reply #920 on: September 24, 2013, 12:52:50 pm »
Q.1 - Is it allowed to make an ARPD unofficial group which guards only Heroin Spots of Argonath RPG? The officer can also collect the heroin which was ordered by the suspect and later give it to a high ranked officer / fbi. If it is allowed then please tell me.

Q.2 - What if you are checking heroin spots as a cop and someone thinks that we were ordering?

Q.3 - What to do when we pull over someone and he doesn't agrees that he was driving recklessly and also he asks for proof such as pics/videos in Argo Forums?

Q.4 - Can a SAPD officer (dark blue) make/join any unofficial ARPD group?

Offline Dario.Cipone

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Re: SA:MP | State your Situations, Questions & Ideas
« Reply #921 on: September 24, 2013, 14:24:25 pm »
Q.1 - Is it allowed to make an ARPD unofficial group which guards only Heroin Spots of Argonath RPG? The officer can also collect the heroin which was ordered by the suspect and later give it to a high ranked officer / fbi. If it is allowed then please tell me.

Q.2 - What if you are checking heroin spots as a cop and someone thinks that we were ordering?

Q.3 - What to do when we pull over someone and he doesn't agrees that he was driving recklessly and also he asks for proof such as pics/videos in Argo Forums?

Q.4 - Can a SAPD officer (dark blue) make/join any unofficial ARPD group?

A.1 - For any ARPD Group that you want to make, I'd suggest to contact the ARPD Commissioner, CBFasi. By the way you've to think if your group is gonna do the same job of an official group to understand if is it useful or not and if it don't interfeer with any other official groups already made.
I don't think it's allowed to just stand near an heroin spot to see if someone orders heroin.

A.2 - As a law enforcement you can't check if someone ordered (by using the command). If you see someone around the heroin spot, you stop there and wait for the package. If it arrives, collect it and contact a Sgt+/FBI.
If you see the package with the civilian there, you've to take a screen and suspect the civilian.

Remember: take a screen when you see the package with the civilian. After that, you can always contact the ASID and the FBI and give them the screen that you took. The screen is needed to prove that the civilian is guilty if he says no (and to let ASID/FBI, investigate the subject).

A.3 - When you pull over someone, you don't need a reason to do it. You could ask just for documents for a regular check. If you feel that the civilian was recklessy driving, give him the ticket even if he refuses to understand. If he refuses to pay the ticket, then you can suspect him and arrest him. Same goes if he can't pay the ticket. (The suspection will be not "reckless driving", "speeding" or anything related. Will be "refusing to pay the ticket" for example)

A.4 - No, he can't.

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Re: SA:MP | State your Situations, Questions & Ideas
« Reply #922 on: September 26, 2013, 05:13:12 am »
Q.4 - Can a SAPD officer (dark blue) make/join any unofficial ARPD group?

A more better question: Why would anyone from the SAPD join an unofficial group when they have been granted and assigned with a variety of duties and rights?

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Re: SA:MP | State your Situations, Questions & Ideas
« Reply #923 on: September 28, 2013, 14:37:16 pm »
Q.4 - Can a SAPD officer (dark blue) make/join any unofficial ARPD group?

A more better question: Why would anyone from the SAPD join an unofficial group when they have been granted and assigned with a variety of duties and rights?

Because they want to support and/or represent that group to help it prosper and higher its chances of succeeding? I thought ARPD was one big group, not little seperate branches who don't relate to each other. Why all the internal conflicts?

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Re: SA:MP | State your Situations, Questions & Ideas
« Reply #924 on: September 28, 2013, 16:26:46 pm »
Ran into these situations a few times and wondering how they should be handled


Situation 1: A suspect is idle but not surrendered. He has been given multiple warnings to surrender but hasn't, so an officer is pepper spraying him / hitting him with a baton. The suspect then starts shouting "Stop! Stop!".

What should be done in this situation? Usually what happens is if the suspect is taken down with the spray, he claims to have wanted to /hail but not had a chance to (even though he could /gu at any time), or if we actually stop using force, the suspect just runs away.


Situation 2: Again there's an idle suspect who hasn't surrendered. When the officer approaches him he says "I'm talking with admin", but the officer hasn't been made aware of this by an admin.

What should be done here? Should the officer be required to PM every online admin to ask if he's talking with him? Because usually if we continue to try to arrest the suspect the admin goes all crazy and calls you impatient or whatever, even though he didn't make us personally aware he was dealing with the suspect.

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Re: SA:MP | State your Situations, Questions & Ideas
« Reply #925 on: September 28, 2013, 17:38:44 pm »
Ran into these situations a few times and wondering how they should be handled


Situation 1: A suspect is idle but not surrendered. He has been given multiple warnings to surrender but hasn't, so an officer is pepper spraying him / hitting him with a baton. The suspect then starts shouting "Stop! Stop!".

What should be done in this situation? Usually what happens is if the suspect is taken down with the spray, he claims to have wanted to /hail but not had a chance to (even though he could /gu at any time), or if we actually stop using force, the suspect just runs away.


Situation 2: Again there's an idle suspect who hasn't surrendered. When the officer approaches him he says "I'm talking with admin", but the officer hasn't been made aware of this by an admin.

What should be done here? Should the officer be required to PM every online admin to ask if he's talking with him? Because usually if we continue to try to arrest the suspect the admin goes all crazy and calls you impatient or whatever, even though he didn't make us personally aware he was dealing with the suspect.

1. He's had enough time to surrender then if you gave him multiple warning' while he is idle.  Use of LTL should be permitted until he has a low amount of HP and see if he surrender's then.

2. If an admin is dealing with a suspect and officers arrive on scene, the admin should make the officer's aware that he's talking to the suspect so there is no confusion.  Once both are done talking, you can then go ahead and arrest or continue the pursuit.  But if the admin doesn't inform you of his presence then you can always ask in /l as most likely he is spectating the suspect who's being talked too.

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Re: SA:MP | State your Situations, Questions & Ideas
« Reply #926 on: October 03, 2013, 11:53:29 am »
Since you removed buffalo's. ARPD are not allowed to use them also. Make SWAT to go in shifts with bullets and assist SAPD/ARPD with high speed and high wanted suspects.
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Re: SA:MP | State your Situations, Questions & Ideas
« Reply #927 on: October 03, 2013, 21:00:50 pm »
Since you removed buffalo's. ARPD are not allowed to use them also. Make SWAT to go in shifts with bullets and assist SAPD/ARPD with high speed and high wanted suspects.

Or just re-open HSP and make fast speed vehicles HSP only.
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Re: SA:MP | State your Situations, Questions & Ideas
« Reply #928 on: October 03, 2013, 21:18:26 pm »
Or if a decision was made to restrict the vehicles this way, then there is a reason for it. Once we decide high speed vehicles are ready to be returned, we will do so.
And the more people push for those vehicles, it just shows how correct the decision from ARPD Command was.

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Re: SA:MP | State your Situations, Questions & Ideas
« Reply #929 on: October 04, 2013, 11:18:09 am »
Plam, since you have money for buying DB Weapons, maybe some people don't have and not willing to buy. I'd prefer to use bullet to track the suspect and catch him when i am without partner than using a cruiser and losing the suspect to escape. And a lot of officers not willing to use TS so
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Re: SA:MP | State your Situations, Questions & Ideas
« Reply #930 on: October 04, 2013, 11:53:52 am »
How exactly are DB weapons/money related to using civilian vehicles on duty?

On another note; You are a police officer, therefor you must use a police vehicle. Simple as that.
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Re: SA:MP | State your Situations, Questions & Ideas
« Reply #931 on: October 04, 2013, 12:00:36 pm »
Plam, since you have money for buying DB Weapons, maybe some people don't have and not willing to buy. I'd prefer to use bullet to track the suspect and catch him when i am without partner than using a cruiser and losing the suspect to escape. And a lot of officers not willing to use TS so

Wether you want to use DB weapons or not is up to you, therfore if you don't have money, you don't have to use them. You'd prefer to use bullet to track the suspects down and we would prefer to have police officers co-operating and teamworking, rather then being one man army heroes with their stack of weapons and fastest car they can find. And TS has nothing to do with communication, true its an addon, but not requirment to have good communication.

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Re: SA:MP | State your Situations, Questions & Ideas
« Reply #932 on: November 18, 2013, 21:12:12 pm »
If my memory serves well, some time ago there was a system, where if you were under the rank of Sergeant, you could perform whatever crimes you wished as part of your alternative roles (AKA, not on duty). If you were Sergeant or a Lt, you could perform minor crimes off duty, but if you were high command, you could perform no crimes. My memory regarding which ranks could do which might be shady, was over a year ago I was in SAPD, but the question is:

Has this changed? I've had high ranks order my friends, who are off duty, to surrender as they are an officer (not even a senior officer). I've had people refuse to participate in certain roleplays, 'cause if we got caught, their applications or probatory officer rank would be jeopardized. Has SAPD adopted FBI's way of noany crime?

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Re: SA:MP | State your Situations, Questions & Ideas
« Reply #933 on: November 18, 2013, 22:25:55 pm »
Lieutenants are restricted from committing major offenses, am sure you could work out what those are.  Sergeants on the other hand from what I've read and seen they aren't restricted from committing major offenses but personally I'd hope they steer clear of joining in with those activities, just my opinion though.  Minor crimes can still be commited just don't expect to see us doing kidnapping and killing fifteen cops before surrendering. 

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Re: SA:MP | State your Situations, Questions & Ideas
« Reply #934 on: November 18, 2013, 22:51:53 pm »
Yeah, that's exactly what I was interested in. And since officers are permitted to perform major crimes while on their criminal role, does that also mean applicant's and probationary officer's status would not be affected by their other role's decision to perform major crimes? And in terms of command deciding not to ever promote an officer, despite how good they may be, just because they also tend to perform criminal activities off-duty?

I'm only trying to clear this up so my friends don't have to worry about hanging out with my less-than-lawful persona, thinking that if they don't get punished, they at the least will not succeed in their career.

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Re: SA:MP | State your Situations, Questions & Ideas
« Reply #935 on: November 18, 2013, 23:57:44 pm »
Sergeants + are restricted from committing major crimes, period.
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Re: SA:MP | State your Situations, Questions & Ideas
« Reply #936 on: November 19, 2013, 01:18:03 am »
Would lower ranks/applicants/probies be affected in terms of their possibilities in career if they do major crimes?

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Re: SA:MP | State your Situations, Questions & Ideas
« Reply #937 on: November 19, 2013, 01:52:10 am »
Would lower ranks/applicants/probies be affected in terms of their possibilities in career if they do major crimes?

In RS5, those who commit crimes will have trouble going on police duty. But as it stands now, it doesn't necessarily affect lower ranks, only their chances of getting promoted.
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Re: SA:MP | State your Situations, Questions & Ideas
« Reply #938 on: November 20, 2013, 09:20:30 am »
Hello Everyone!

Last days i started jailing people in Mordor High Security Prison and due to that time i was thinking about a nice idea for RS5.(if mordor will be there too of course)
I was thinking about a scripted jail time like /mjail or something else.And that time should be minimum length=30 minutes and maximum time=10 hours or less.
Let me explain some details i though too.
When u do the command for jail in Mordor the suspect automatically jail in one of Mordor cells,(idk if that will be possible to be scripted) and if there is a suspect in one of the cells the suspect being jailed would automatically go in another empty cell.

And it will be better if the normal time of jail would be raised to max 300 seconds.

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Re: SA:MP | State your Situations, Questions & Ideas
« Reply #939 on: November 20, 2013, 22:33:30 pm »
Just a question: When I first joined the SAPD, I noticed a few officers gave what they called "alternative punishments" to criminals as part of a RP. An example of this is a RP jail in the LSPD toilet and then unsuspecting them for "alternative punishment issued". I found this to be a great opportunity roleplay and was a fun twist on cop work. Are such activities still allowed?

 

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