San Andreas Police Department | Q&A

[jemerson]

Chief I am requesting a rewrite of the SAPD proceedure on this. I am willing to help you come up with something more reasonable but right now this is a bad state to be in!

[Jcstodds]

However, going at 130++ inside citys I can agree on at direct suspect. They are a hazard to public safety and need to be taken off the streets.

  I would disagree on this. Because for one, speed cannot be measured accurately due to ping spikes, lag etc. Secondly, most areas in the game have quite small population densities. For me, speeding is a minor crime that I wouldn't even consider stopping anyone for. If they are speeding in a densely populated area, and cannot maintain the right side of the road, or cannot stay on the road, then I would consider it dangerous driving, which I would stop someone for.

  My point is, most speeding criminals are suspected when it would otherwise perfectly safe to speed, and the only nearby witness is the cop. And if that cop is hidden away doing 'speed camera'... well that's just pointless, unless it warrants possible dangerous driving in a highly populated area, e.g, Pershing Square.

[James_Stone]

I just think more people would rather /su someone than pull them over. People who want to get suspected drive all over the map...everyone just says 'Oh cop, time to press on the gas pedal' I just think this should be removed.

[Bianconeri]

  My point is, most speeding criminals are suspected when it would otherwise perfectly safe to speedSquare.

i wouldnt call GS9-LSPD road a good place to speed,
most ppl suspected for speeding are around busy place, not quiet places as you say,
since mostly only freecops(cadets do also, and some lazy officers too) sus for speeding and they dont leave LS often

[jemerson]

Okay folks, let me put it to you this way, for giggles lets try this. The Chief changes the orders and says everyone from Freecop to Officer can shoot civilians if you THINK they may have criminal relations even if not fired upon. Guess what OFFICERS would be the first to use that. Just because a rule allows us to do something does not mean we should. I am on my phone and not going to bother to see who said this, but whoever said freecops are the only ones that suspect for speeding, is well umm utterly REDICULOS. WE ARE their role models, they follow us for good and bad. Now be a good one! I guarentee you a Free Officer saw a Officer do it, thought thats the standard precedure and started to do it. Blame yourselves. SACS has a policy where we WILL NOT suspect for speeding. I suggest you make a policy for your own selves saying you won't. You ruin RP, your ruin the fun, and frankly I am the biggest speeder in Argonath, but I do it safe, I do it effectively, and I use it to my patrol benifet.
Folks, its time we realize whats right and whats wrong.

[Jcstodds]

Emerson knows what he is talking about 

[Damion_Butler]

I feel like I'm not getting the same chances in the ARPD as people who are in big clans and police groups. I think this is because I also role play a gangster, they are simply not affiliated with. I also feel that I don't get the same chances because high ranks in the ARPD don't like me.
When I joined Argonath, the first two months, I wanted to be a cop. But nobody but Frank_Serpico and JEmerson wanted to teach me. You have no idea, how many officers and how often completely ignored me like I wasn't even there. I nearly left Argonath before I tried the gangster role play, because I thought no regulars welcomed new players. So I lost interest in the ARPD because nobody wanted to play with me.
I decided to give it another shot after other players brought the same thing up and ARPD officers said they would change their ways. And it did...for two weeks.
I have learned everything there is to know, 3 months ago. Two months ago I finished my training. Still, no exam. Now when I play I see new officers who are just poor role players and I know I'm also a better cop than they are with more traffic stops, more arrests/suspects taken down and a whole lot more use of police radio. But they are wearing a clan tag or are part of a police group. Really...that's the only reason I can think off that they are now promoted and I'm not. They tell their group members who are Captains and Lieutenants they wanna become an officer and they get another one of the same rank to take their exam, that's how it goes, I know that.
I could've shut up and played the part, become officer soon, but I decide to open the page now because ARPD is seriously lacking in role play more and more. The RP level of criminals is just so much higher than the ARPD, it's ridiculous. While you're on TS or Vent, talking to each other, you miss half of the things that's happening on the server, missing role play, being slow on role play, not being creative, etc etc.
Basically what I'm trying to say is that the ARPD should try and treat everyone as equal as possible.

[jemerson]

But nobody but Frank_Serpico and JEmerson wanted to teach me

Well first off thanks, secondly we will finish up your cadet training in game. I can promise you being in a group does not help your rank although sometimes I belive it hurts!

There have been serveral times I wanted to quit ARPD for lack of roleplay, 1 of the times being last night! But I know that if I want to see change in SAPD then I need to be that change I want to see in the future. So thats what I am doing every day. I am on the streets writing citations, arresting people, teaching people the rules and having fun. I know in the end my efforts will pay off and if not then I have helped serveral people learn the correct way to roleplay. The problem is the ARPD administation is making it harder and harder for me to be that change I want to see by making policys I 100% disagree with and making new laws that seem absurd. I however work for this department and respect more then anything. I will fight for it and if I disagree with something I will make it known. I am not a quitter and I am there to make things better. If you ever need help in game just PM IG or on the forums.
I hope this helps you a bit.
Thanks and Be Safe!

Yours in policing,

Jake Emerson

[Bianconeri]

well being in a good group can indeed help, if that group is known for good RP
but everyone gets a chance

you say criminals got more RP then ARPD, well totally not agreed, its the way around,
since criminals dm/cop hunt and /exit in middle of building all the time,
but thats not the point here

i do agree that ppl dont want to help others,not only officers but also higher in rank,
i get 100 freecops/cadets to me all the time, saying that others dont want to do anything,
and that im the only one that can help, this annoys me, im already not active, and i lack the time for all

not going to say names,but yesterday again, a cadet asked ppl: they say: go to ****, so he does and then the other:
go to **** and it goes like that all the time

[ElMartu]

you say criminals got more RP then ARPD, well totally not agreed, its the way around,
since criminals dm/cop hunt and /exit in middle of building all the time,
but thats not the point here

Seems somebody had bad experiences...

[Damion_Butler]

Well first off thanks, secondly we will finish up your cadet training in game. I can promise you being in a group does not help your rank although sometimes I belive it hurts!

There have been serveral times I wanted to quit ARPD for lack of roleplay, 1 of the times being last night! But I know that if I want to see change in SAPD then I need to be that change I want to see in the future. So thats what I am doing every day. I am on the streets writing citations, arresting people, teaching people the rules and having fun. I know in the end my efforts will pay off and if not then I have helped serveral people learn the correct way to roleplay. The problem is the ARPD administation is making it harder and harder for me to be that change I want to see by making policys I 100% disagree with and making new laws that seem absurd. I however work for this department and respect more then anything. I will fight for it and if I disagree with something I will make it known. I am not a quitter and I am there to make things better. If you ever need help in game just PM IG or on the forums.
I hope this helps you a bit.
Thanks and Be Safe!

Yours in policing,

Jake Emerson

Yeah, I was referring to your days as a freecop btw ^^. You was the only freecop who role played frisks and that increased my interest in the ARPD, because of the RP you did. Now you have your own police group you need to manage so I appreciate you still offer to help.

well being in a good group can indeed help, if that group is known for good RP
but everyone gets a chance

you say criminals got more RP then ARPD, well totally not agreed, its the way around,
since criminals dm/cop hunt and /exit in middle of building all the time,
but thats not the point here

i do agree that ppl dont want to help others,not only officers but also higher in rank,
i get 100 freecops/cadets to me all the time, saying that others dont want to do anything,
and that im the only one that can help, this annoys me, im already not active, and i lack the time for all

not going to say names,but yesterday again, a cadet asked ppl: they say: go to ****, so he does and then the other:
go to **** and it goes like that all the time

About the RP, I know there are criminal groups that DM, but I was talking about the people I surround myself with as a role playing criminal who don't DM and all that.

You are also known for being very approachable. The people I'm closest to and are involved in the ARPD all told me to contact you  .


I understand if other high ranks in the ARPD decide not to state their own opinion here and that's why I want to thank you both very much.

[Bianconeri]

You are also known for being very approachable. The people I'm closest to and are involved in the ARPD all told me to contact you  .

at least something im good in 
and thats the reason that all come to me lol 
and at least i got a good name under free officers and cadets, under the higher ranks im just rubbish
i just like to help everyone out, and do my best for them,
and to make that fit on your first situation

everyone deserves a chance, in a group or not, yes it can have influence but it doesnt means no group members wont get helped

Seems somebody had bad experiences...

correct, one of the main reason why i left Argonath for a month, and why im still inactive,
all criminals do is cop hunting

[Nick_E]

Situation : 207 at a place , Suspects told us a list of demands like : i wanna a car behind the building !...
Question : i give him the demands ?

[Janar]

Only fulfil demands, if there isn't any other choice to get hostage alive.

[Jcstodds]

  In most cases the easiest way to deal with 207 situations is to meet the kidnapper demands (or close to), retrieve the hostage safely, then begin a manhunt.

[Bert]

What If they request money ? A large amount of money? Should we give them the money?

[Jcstodds]

What If they request money ? A large amount of money? Should we give them the money?

Depends who it is, and it would be the decision of the person leading the operation, and how they plan for the operation to go.

Cops should not be paying money, government or civilians should, that's why generally 911 calls for 207 demands are ignored.

[VeLuX]

Situation: get a suspect to /gu, after that do you find weed on him

Question: Can we force them too hand the drugs over??


not just say no or yes, if we not can, will you please Write our other options

Regards velux

[Panda]

As an Araatus yakuza criminal, if we have a hostage, we can expect one of three things.

Either:
:: We're paid our demands, we release the hostage and escape in a suitably epic fashion.

:: We're not paid our demands, the cops try to storm the place. We execute the hostage and escape in a suitably epic fashion.

:: We're not paid our demands, the cops try to storm the place. We execute the hostage, and go down fighting, leading dozens of cops to their slaughter in a suitably epic fashion.


The hostage only survives in one of these situations. If you're dealing with an experienced and skilled criminal group (such as Corleone), your best chance is what Jc said. In Araatus, the money we demand is indeed a real ticket to the hostage's freedom. The only challenge you're going to face is the chase afterwards, but even then there is no hostage who can die.

Loss of money and preservation of life is better than loss of life.

[Bianconeri]

You are talking really easy for your group there Panda, let cops pay all the time to get hostage free
but there is a last one and thats that the cop sturming on location worked and hostage got rescued

As leading officer at a 207 you have you think of all possible situations and attacks,
give chances to it, try to find a suitable attack with high chance of succes(hostage free)

if there is no suitable way to attack, only then pay the demands, but try everything to not pay,
but remember most important is to rescue the hostage

you are right though that against a good experienced group it is really hard, Corleone/stracci and Yakuza(if active)
know how to handle kidnappings, but they fail also, no group can be assured of succes