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Offline mikro

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Report against [MA]Steven_J
« on: June 19, 2012, 20:49:37 pm »
Directed to:  Captain Robert Longstreet.
SAPD Officer Policy violators:

1. Officer Name - [MA]Steven_J - Miss-use of the /cancelsuspect command to decide admin matters, which is out of his jurisdiction.
2. Officer's Department - LVPD

 a. Pictures..



 b. Other evidence..

None

Date: 19 June 2012
Time: around 20:18

Civillian(s) involved: List..

Signed
Administrator [WS]Mikro

Offline FlameMan

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Re: Report against [MA]Steven_J
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2012, 20:54:02 pm »

Report accepted by the authority towards who the report has been directed.
Requesting Lieutenant to make a defense statement.

Captain Robert Longstreet
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Offline Steven J

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Re: Report against [MA]Steven_J
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2012, 21:47:12 pm »
I admit I unsuspected the following persons; as per I directly witnessed these persons shoot as civilians at police to aid their friends who were suspected. I had asked an unsuspection of them to Cyril / Duel in the LVPD CB however, at no time was it said admins were dealing with the situation."
Accordingly, if I was aware they were being watched, I would not of unsuspected these persons.

Proof to support my "claimed of asking":


Note: My timestamps are 1 hour behind the server time... should a server log check be required.
Steven Kolta
~ SAPD Supervisory Officer ~

Offline J. Prilo

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Re: Report against [MA]Steven_J
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2012, 22:24:59 pm »
I were active during the whole scene and believe Steven J acted correctly, and as he should. The suspects were continously deathmatching in San Fierro as a result of their friends being suspects. I should've /reported them but I was very unsure. I also recall many of them returning to the roleplay scene with weapons, attacking me and the other officers.
Joseph Prilo
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Ex- San Andreas Police Department Officer (SA:MP)
| Ex- Vice City Police Department Officer (VC:MP)
Meritorious Service Medal x1


Offline mikro

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Re: Report against [MA]Steven_J
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2012, 22:29:12 pm »
You are not supposed to use the commands issued to you for your police job, for unsuspection on admin matters. Unless clearly asked by an admin. Once suspected it is up to the admins to decide if it is rulebreaking and they should be unsuspected and punished, or they should stay suspect.

What there happened, the shooting, was because of a roleplay that just happened a second before it. The police comes and starts suspecting people, on which also the police becomes a threat to them all. It is not like that those non-suspects came later and joined in, they were there already, which makes a slight difference.

Anyways, you should have reported it instead of abusing the commands you have been given to decide it your own from the police side of this story.



To Aamir:

As far as I have seen (I was dealing with one of them there differently too), all were there already. I have checked a lot people on if they died or not. Again, admins got commands to check if they are returning to roleplay and stuff. The acts of Steven were not correct as he misused the command. All should have been reported.

Offline J. Prilo

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Re: Report against [MA]Steven_J
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2012, 22:37:39 pm »
To Aamir:

As far as I have seen (I was dealing with one of them there differently too), all were there already. I have checked a lot people on if they died or not. Again, admins got commands to check if they are returning to roleplay and stuff. The acts of Steven were not correct as he misused the command. All should have been reported.

Miguel returned to the situation. I am a hundered percent sure of it. Infact, he returned three times, as he were dropped off at a bridge and I were there with my helicopter. 2 minutes after he got unsuspected he started shooting at me, and I suspected him back. I called for assistance, and got help by [TCL]Kyle. He was shot down. After that, he returned AGAIN.

http://i49.tinypic.com/214zgcz.png <- ‎‎19. ‎juni ‎2012, ‏‎20:21:43
Picture of me and Kyle the second time he returned, after he was killed.

http://i50.tinypic.com/1563a7l.jpg <- ‎19. ‎juni ‎2012, ‏‎20:23:34
Third time, asking for a ride to LS
Joseph Prilo
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| Ex- Vice City Police Department Officer (VC:MP)
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Offline Cyril

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Re: Report against [MA]Steven_J
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2012, 22:54:20 pm »
Well, you asked in CB about unsuspection, I didn't really get why/who to unsuspect since my screen was really flooded at that time. It was rush-time and we were submerged by reports. Yeah, some admins were already investigating them.


Offline Mash

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Re: Report against [MA]Steven_J
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2012, 23:15:52 pm »
"For a combat soldier, the difference between success and failure is your ability to adapt to your enemy. The people that I deal with, they don’t care about your rules. All they care about is results. My job is to stop them from accomplishing their objectives. I simply adapted. In answer to your question, am I above the law? No, sir."

Offline Roske

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Re: Report against [MA]Steven_J
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2012, 16:47:14 pm »
I know that i'm not allowed to post here,but:
Isin't Dm a admin matter not a SAPD/ARPD matter?

Offline SeanC

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Re: Report against [MA]Steven_J
« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2012, 10:10:35 am »
Steven is removed from the force.

Offline Ronnel

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Re: Report against [MA]Steven_J
« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2012, 17:45:55 pm »
Can someone tell me the logic of unsuspecting DM'ers ? This makes cops unable to counter them as they will be fined if they do. So by unsuspecting you are giving rulebreakers an advantage.

 :app:

Offline [Rstar]Paul

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Re: Report against [MA]Steven_J
« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2012, 17:20:10 pm »
Report closed.

 

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