[SA:MP] Effectiveness of current traffic citations

[Jason Bridges]

At the moment, the maximum penalty an officer can issue to an individual for reckless driving is $250. This has absolutely no effect on most players and I even find them saying "how much is this gonna cost me, im in a hurry" etc etc, basically being dismissive of the fact that they're committing serious traffic offences and thinking if they /send [id] 250 they can just leave.

What I am wondering is if police officers or just SAPD officers could be granted the right to cease civilian's vehicles if they feel a $250 outright is not sufficient enough action. The sole purpose of this would the deter people from committing traffic offences, and if people are in the knowledge that their vehicles could be ceased for serious traffic violations, then they are likely to obey more traffic laws.

I have been informed by upper command that an SAPD officer can contact a Chief or Dept. Chief to be granted the right to cease a vehicle for reckless driving, but I don't think this is adequate, because a Dept. Chief+ is not always online and it is really unnecessary to have the approval of a Dept. Chief+ for something so insignificant compared to other action Officers+ are allowed to take.

I would like to know:

-(To command) Why aren't SAPD members granted the power to cease vehicles for traffic violations?
-What are other peoples opinions on this issue
-Alternative solutions (if any) to this issue

[Pazienza]

I support this, not to be issued too often though

[Francisco Martinez]

I guess spending some minutes in a Roleplay jail, and getting his car impounded for a low cost would help.

[David Gonzalez]

I really like this idea, people now a day just skip the Rp and ask,'' How much, i am in a hurry '', and thats not acceptable we has officer should have the power to cease someones vehicle, or temporary stop them from using it, also Argonath should have a point sistem implemented with its own database, basicly each time someone commited a traffic crime, poits could be added to that person's license, lets say one gets stoped for failure to maintain the correct lane, then 2 points should be added to that database, when someone reached the maximum points, their license would be revoked and their cars would not longer be legal to be driven untill the civillian arrenged a new license, if the civilian continus to drive his own car he would be fined for it.

[KhornateMonkey]

Take them to court if it's so serious, have their license removed!

[Steven J]

I agree with Monkey here.

You should take them to court each time.
Each time you take them to court, you may ask for a higher punishment such as a license being revoked.

[[Rstar]Paul]

People usually take the 'easy' way to get out of trouble because they are use to getting a ticket or just a warning.

(To command) Why aren't SAPD members granted the power to cease vehicles for traffic violations?

Allowed.

Plus if driving schools don't fully teach people how to drive and keep them dedicated to the traffic law system, we will. (In some time I'll be implementing a new system for SAPD members for this after a discussion with the SAPD CMD).

[Padres_Rosso]

I already asked for higher Fines, because Points won't be accepted(people told me) and Court ....never thought about it, that it's possible that easy.

[Huntsman]

KhornateMonkey on behalf of ARA already suggested to increase maximum traffic fines in the supreme court. Many people supported it and many did not. I dont really know the outcoume of the case.

I highly suggest SAPD Command to allow us to fine the driver up to 1000ARD dollars , because 250ARD really has no affect on the drivers, as my collegue Snr.Officer Bridges has stated.

[Francisco Martinez]

Raising the traffic fines will only result in people trying not to be stopped. So much less Role-Play since all the violators will try to evade. I believe we should find a roleplay-ish  way to sort this out. The court idea is good, altough it takes time and patience. In my opinion

I guess spending some minutes in a Roleplay jail, and getting his car impounded for a low cost would help.

this should be the best solution.

[KhornateMonkey]

Plus if driving schools don't fully teach people how to drive and keep them dedicated to the traffic law system, we will. (In some time I'll be implementing a new system for SAPD members for this after a discussion with the SAPD CMD).

The driving schools that do not fully teach their students should be investigated, and if needs be, prosecuted.

[Janar]

And that is, why I never give tickets. On a good day, offenders get away with a warning. On bad days, they will find themselves abandoned from Whetstone or in an ocean.

[David Gonzalez]

Raising the traffic fines will only result in people trying not to be stopped. So much less Role-Play since all the violators will try to evade. I believe we should find a roleplay-ish  way to sort this out. The court idea is good, altough it takes time and patience. In my opinion

I have seized a couple of vehicle and to me it seems that leaving a guy without is car is more efective.

[KhornateMonkey]

And that is, why I never give tickets. On a good day, offenders get away with a warning. On bad days, they will find themselves abandoned from Whetstone or in an ocean.

You still have some DPD left in you

[Janar]

And that is, why I never give tickets. On a good day, offenders get away with a warning. On bad days, they will find themselves abandoned from Whetstone or in an ocean.

You still have some DPD left in you

Come on, that stuff never leaves me.

[KhornateMonkey]

And that is, why I never give tickets. On a good day, offenders get away with a warning. On bad days, they will find themselves abandoned from Whetstone or in an ocean.

You still have some DPD left in you

Come on, that stuff never leaves me.

Says the city boy!

[Huntsman]

And that is, why I never give tickets. On a good day, offenders get away with a warning. On bad days, they will find themselves abandoned from Whetstone or in an ocean.

You still have some DPD left in you

Come on, that stuff never leaves me.

Says the city boy!

SAPD = city boys applying your logic. Only departaments you can join are LSPD, LVPD, SFPD, which are city departaments 

[KhornateMonkey]

And that is, why I never give tickets. On a good day, offenders get away with a warning. On bad days, they will find themselves abandoned from Whetstone or in an ocean.

You still have some DPD left in you

Come on, that stuff never leaves me.

Says the city boy!

SAPD = city boys applying your logic. Only departaments you can join are LSPD, LVPD, SFPD, which are city departaments 

So, you're all city boys.

[~Legend~]

I'd say it is a matter of striking a balance.
You wouldn't want to be so 'annoying' that it's just ruining people's experience. People would naturally speed and drive as they want as it's a game and most are inclined to step on it, get where they want as quick as possible.

Police traffic RP should hopefully just add an extra element. Increasing the fine slightly would not be a bad thing, but you don't want it to be so high and imposing that people are encouraged to spend their days creeping up on speeders. :P

I think a little bit of roleplay can open many doors.
As already mentioned, vehicle impounds, court procedures, license restrictions could be possible outcomes. Perhaps rather than being too focused on what's in the department rule book, it could first be opened to allow flexibility but not abuse?

[Jason Bridges]

I'd say it is a matter of striking a balance.
You wouldn't want to be so 'annoying' that it's just ruining people's experience. People would naturally speed and drive as they want as it's a game and most are inclined to step on it, get where they want as quick as possible.

Police traffic RP should hopefully just add an extra element. Increasing the fine slightly would not be a bad thing, but you don't want it to be so high and imposing that people are encouraged to spend their days creeping up on speeders. :P

I think a little bit of roleplay can open many doors.
As already mentioned, vehicle impounds, court procedures, license restrictions could be possible outcomes. Perhaps rather than being too focused on what's in the department rule book, it could first be opened to allow flexibility but not abuse?

I understand what you're saying, but the main reason I do traffic stops is not to catch people out or rake in tonnes of money, its genuinely to try and stop people from causing reckless and stupid accidents, and to add an element of realism to the game (that being: where people actually obey the speed limits).