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Offline Bruce`

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[ARPD Report] S1mon-Dwight Cems-George Jetson
« on: May 21, 2013, 17:27:02 pm »
Directed to: SAPD authority.
ARPD Officer Policy violators:

1. S1mon. Dwight_Cems George Jetson -
Firstly going with S1mon. I was with lucianos and we were planing a RP in their CB and we were with 2 customized sultans in Market LS.Meanwhile cops came and S1mon. suspected us for Illegal Street Racing.We were not even racing we were driving slowly near each other.

Secondly i want to report Dwight_Cems and George Jetson for 2 resons.
  • They started dbing a sultan in a chase which is not allowed to DB a sultan from a PD car without even warning.
  • They killed me while i was /hail 1.

 a. Pictures.. This is the evidence about S1mon. This is the evidence about Dwight Cems and George Jetson
P.S. I got killed when i stand up and i did /hail 1 after they blowed my sultan.
 b. Other evidence..

Date: 21/5/2013
Time: S1mon-16:59    2 Officers-17:06

Civillian(s) involved: At the first one were 3 civilians that saw it...Stivi Luciano,WyHuLai Luciano,Maged Luciano
Signed
(Alex Brooks)

Offline Jason Bridges

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Re: [ARPD Report] S1mon-Dwight Cems-George Jetson
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2013, 18:32:02 pm »
Hi, I'm Supervisory Jason Bridges and I'll be handling this report.

Please inform all 3 of these officers that they're being reported and post evidence of that here (screenshots or chat log lines will be adequate).

Offline Bruce`

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Re: [ARPD Report] S1mon-Dwight Cems-George Jetson
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2013, 19:15:42 pm »
i already told 2 of them....S1mon was offline

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Re: [ARPD Report] S1mon-Dwight Cems-George Jetson
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2013, 19:46:02 pm »
I will reply for my part. Passing near the two sultans, I supposed that an illegal street race is preparing. Two cars, often used for racing, were stopped at same line, looking like drag race starting grid. This was the reason to suspect.

Later Lucianos were unsuspected by FBI, while you prefered to evade, assuming you were agreeing with the suspection.

For part 2: sometimes animations are not synched, so if you use /hail animation, use it two or three times, and /gu is better for YOUR security
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Offline Jason Bridges

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Re: [ARPD Report] S1mon-Dwight Cems-George Jetson
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2013, 19:48:10 pm »
I will reply for my part. Passing near the two sultans, I supposed that an illegal street race is preparing. Two cars, often used for racing, were stopped at same line, looking like drag race starting grid. This was the reason to suspect.

Later Lucianos were unsuspected by FBI, while you prefered to evade, assuming you were agreeing with the suspection.

For part 2: sometimes animations are not synched, so if you use /hail animation, use it two or three times, and /gu is better for YOUR security

Why didn't you issue any warnings before you suspected Alex and why didn't you issue any before opening fire?


Offline Bruce`

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Re: [ARPD Report] S1mon-Dwight Cems-George Jetson
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2013, 20:13:24 pm »

For part 2: sometimes animations are not synched, so if you use /hail animation, use it two or three times, and /gu is better for YOUR security

Speak for the part that u are sued....

About your part....why did u shoot at my tires while i was not even moving...

Offline Bruce`

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Re: [ARPD Report] S1mon-Dwight Cems-George Jetson
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2013, 20:16:04 pm »

Later Lucianos were unsuspected by FBI, while you prefered to evade, assuming you were agreeing with the suspection.


i started evading cause u had no right to shoot my tire while i was not even moving my car i was just waiting for u to come at me...u come and blowed my back tire in driver side


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Re: [ARPD Report] S1mon-Dwight Cems-George Jetson
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2013, 20:48:54 pm »

Why didn't you issue any warnings before you suspected Alex and why didn't you issue any before opening fire?

No warnings were given to stop possible crime the fastest possible.

One tyre of each car was shot to avoid fast escape, and that was discussed with FBI agent Matrixbob.
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Offline Alan Demarest

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Re: [ARPD Report] S1mon-Dwight Cems-George Jetson
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2013, 22:25:59 pm »
For the report on S1mon.

I was there at the scene, me(Alan Demarest) and [WS]Dolfa were at market and saw the entire situation.

The two sultans were going at a very slow speed, and were not by the looks of it racing or preparing to race. S1mon then suspected both the drivers, the drivers then stopped their cars where the screenshot was taken. S1mon then stepped out of his vehicle and shot out one tyre on each car. This left me and Dolfa puzzled as neither had done anything. Both drivers had immediately stopped their vehicles and were not moving.
We stepped in and told the drivers that we would resolve the situation and started an investigation. I called for assistance from the FBI and Matrixbob arrived on the scene. Me, Dolfa and Matrixbob concluded that neither driver had done anything illegal and should be unsuspected. The Luciano driver was then unsuspected and were allowed to leave. Alex Brooks had already evaded by this point and could therefore not be unsuspected.


Best regards
Alan Demarest

Offline Jason Bridges

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Re: [ARPD Report] S1mon-Dwight Cems-George Jetson
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2013, 09:21:24 am »
For the report on S1mon.

I was there at the scene, me(Alan Demarest) and [WS]Dolfa were at market and saw the entire situation.

The two sultans were going at a very slow speed, and were not by the looks of it racing or preparing to race. S1mon then suspected both the drivers, the drivers then stopped their cars where the screenshot was taken. S1mon then stepped out of his vehicle and shot out one tyre on each car. This left me and Dolfa puzzled as neither had done anything. Both drivers had immediately stopped their vehicles and were not moving.
We stepped in and told the drivers that we would resolve the situation and started an investigation. I called for assistance from the FBI and Matrixbob arrived on the scene. Me, Dolfa and Matrixbob concluded that neither driver had done anything illegal and should be unsuspected. The Luciano driver was then unsuspected and were allowed to leave. Alex Brooks had already evaded by this point and could therefore not be unsuspected.


Best regards
Alan Demarest

Thank you for your statement.




Why didn't you issue any warnings before you suspected Alex and why didn't you issue any before opening fire?

No warnings were given to stop possible crime the fastest possible.

One tyre of each car was shot to avoid fast escape, and that was discussed with FBI agent Matrixbob.

Are you telling me, S1mon, that the only evidence you had of these people street racing was the fact that their cars were lined up together?

And you're saying the reason you didn't warn them before suspecting them was to stop a possible crime?

Offline Bruce`

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Re: [ARPD Report] S1mon-Dwight Cems-George Jetson
« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2013, 10:15:58 am »
The other 2 officer that are being sued have been notified for this case.


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Re: [ARPD Report] S1mon-Dwight Cems-George Jetson
« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2013, 10:42:01 am »
Yes, the fact that two equal cars were lined up made me suppose that they are planning an illegal race. They were NOT warned (my bad).
And I will repeat, that situation was solved by FBI agent Matrixbob, I was warned by him.
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Offline Alan Demarest

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Re: [ARPD Report] S1mon-Dwight Cems-George Jetson
« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2013, 12:32:21 pm »
Yes, the fact that two equal cars were lined up made me suppose that they are planning an illegal race. They were NOT warned (my bad).
And I will repeat, that situation was solved by FBI agent Matrixbob, I was warned by him.

You were not warned on the offence of false suspectation. He had not witnessed the act and could therefore not punish you for it. If I remember correctly, it was for shooting a still standing suspect.

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Re: [ARPD Report] S1mon-Dwight Cems-George Jetson
« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2013, 17:54:08 pm »
I will look further into Matrixbob's role in the incident, since there is conflicting information here.

To Alex
Just to confirm, you are reporting S1mon for the suspecting reason, and George and Dwight for shooting a standing suspect, right?

To Simon
Were you present during the time that Alex was killed by George and Dwight?

For part 2: sometimes animations are not synched, so if you use /hail animation, use it two or three times, and /gu is better for YOUR security

That is irrelevant, if a suspect is standing still, or even if they are running away, warnings should be issued first and firearms are used as a last resort.



4 days left to add any more relevant information/statements. This report will proceed on the 26th May

Offline Bruce`

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Re: [ARPD Report] S1mon-Dwight Cems-George Jetson
« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2013, 18:11:53 pm »
Yes you are Right.


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Re: [ARPD Report] S1mon-Dwight Cems-George Jetson
« Reply #15 on: May 22, 2013, 20:27:44 pm »
Quote
To Simon
Were you present during the time that Alex was killed by George and Dwight?

Standing at the place of screenshot, corner of Market drive and 5th avenue, with other officers, Luciano's sultan and FBI agent Matrixbob
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Offline Jason Bridges

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Re: [ARPD Report] S1mon-Dwight Cems-George Jetson
« Reply #16 on: May 22, 2013, 23:37:45 pm »
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To Simon
Were you present during the time that Alex was killed by George and Dwight?

Standing at the place of screenshot, corner of Market drive and 5th avenue, with other officers, Luciano's sultan and FBI agent Matrixbob

No, I am asking if you were present during this:

This is the evidence about Dwight Cems and George Jetson

If so, could you please give me a statement of what you saw.

Offline S1mon

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Re: [ARPD Report] S1mon-Dwight Cems-George Jetson
« Reply #17 on: May 23, 2013, 07:38:12 am »
Sorry, was too tired after work.
I was not present at that moment, and I cannot give any evidence or statement.
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Re: [ARPD Report] S1mon-Dwight Cems-George Jetson
« Reply #18 on: May 26, 2013, 16:37:45 pm »
Secondly i want to report Dwight_Cems and George Jetson for 2 resons.
  • They started dbing a sultan in a chase which is not allowed to DB a sultan from a PD car without even warning.
  • They killed me while i was /hail 1.

Report is on hold whilst I try to obtain relevant logs and investigate this aspect of the report.

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Re: [ARPD Report] S1mon-Dwight Cems-George Jetson
« Reply #19 on: May 31, 2013, 19:32:26 pm »
Whilst Officer S1mon will be cautioned for his poor judgement of the situation, there is no evidence available to SAPD CMD that can confirm either of the remaining two officers opened fire on you without warning. However, if you wish to continue that aspect of the report, you will have to forward it to administration.

As a result - no further action taken.

Report closed.

 

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