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Offline Solis

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NONE-RP Report - [RCSO]Brian_Connor & Officer_Kitley [NEXUS]
« on: March 07, 2014, 09:31:37 am »
Directed to: SAPD authority.

Name: Solis

Report against:
[RCSO]Brian_Connor - Regulations breached:

1. The officer decided to drive around with a civilian vehicle for no apparent reason at all, without making any attempt to reach a police department or explaining his situation on the radio. This is an ARPD and not just an SAPD rule.

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[5]. The SAPD Command staff enforces every officer to use marked police vehicles ONLY, and for organized patrols, the police vehicles will be promoted without exception!

2. The officer did not maintain a professional image, by deciding to act recklessly and foolishly whilst on duty as well as typing in main chat with caps. Although I believe this enforcement only extends to SAPD personnel, everyone (including Brian O'Connor) is now a member of the SAPD upon first joining the police force.

http://arpd.argonathrpg.com/forum/index.php?topic=31986.msg299116#msg299116

3. The officer showed disrespected towards his fellow officers who were in the middle of a ride along by saying "LSPD not doing their job as usual."

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[7]. YOU MUST RESPECT EVERY OFFICER AND CITIZEN AS MUCH AS YOU RESPECT YOUR SUPERIOR.

4. Subtle and attempted death-match/ramming with the use of an aircraft. While this no longer falls into the hands of the command staff and into the admin team for being a rulebreak, I'll still put it here, since the act was even more disrespectful towards me, as a Senior Officer, and my fellow probationary officer - by trying to interrupt our ride-along, giving us reason to believe he would deathmatch/ram us and not listening to our prior advice to calm down.

Officer_Kitley - Regulations breached:

1. The officer was only found responsible of point 2 given to officer Brian above: not maintaining a professional image and typing with caps in main chat.



Description of events:

Me and officer Dark were stationed on Market main street as we were beginning our ride along and I was giving him questions regarding radio codes and procedures. I told him before to announce in the radio we were 10-6, which he did. Afterwards we saw Connor was driving around in a civilian vehicle for no reason at all, after which he and Kitley began screaming on the main chat with caps. Afterwards the two of them got together in a police cruiser and Brian sarcastically typed in a /me "LSPD not doing their job as usual". Afterwards me and Dark went over to LSAP to resume our training which is when Connor picked up numerous aircrafts and flied them close to where we were in our vehicles. Finally, we went to LSPD to pick new police vehicles, when Connor was again driving around in a civilian vehicle and almost crashed (purposely) into officer Dark. Some time after he disconnected, I believe.

Possible Witnesses:
DarkShadowBlade.

Evidence:
Screenshots: All of them are below.

http://imgur.com/a/H7ENL

Both officers have been informed of the report:





Date: 07 March 2014.
Time: 06:00-06:30 CET

I state that the information provided in this report is 100 percent truthful and accurate, I have also read through the report to leader rules and followed all the correct procedure before submitting this report.

Signed,

Solis

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Re: NONE-RP Report - [RCSO]Brian_Connor & Officer_Kitley
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2014, 22:45:41 pm »
I am Staff Sergeant Nexus Riggs and I will be handling this complaint. Please make sure you have informed the reported officers to present their response and post a screenshot of that notification. I'd also suggest informing the witness to testify here as well, thank you.

 
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Re: NONE-RP Report - [RCSO]Brian_Connor & Officer_Kitley [NEXUS]
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2014, 08:45:57 am »
Hello there. I am here to testify as a witness and victim to the situation that has happened with Brian_Connor and Officer_Kitley.

I would like to state that Officer_Kitley did in was typing all caps so this would be acting unproffesional on public chat while on cop duty; Officer Brian_Connor was by far having a worse behavior then Officer_Kitley. Brian_Connor was acting unprofessional while on cop duty, he was driving a state vehicle for no reason at all, he didn't even declare a 10-19, he was just clowning around in that car. He even went as far as to begin disobeying basic traffic laws and causing a danger to himself and others by driving at reckless speeds and on the left side of the street. I do not have the screenshots of him actually doing it but he did admit to it on main chat where i caught a screenshot of it. He later came back and dropped off his state vehicle in the middle of the road creating a traffic hazard and obstruction. He then proceeded to run away and leave the vehicle there as Senior Officer Solis and I were doing a questionnaire for my ride along. He later came back with Officer_Kitley in a SFPD cruiser. He then proceeded to use /me snickers "LSPD not doing their job as usual." This causes more problems as he is now failing to follow rules about unofficial organizations as he insults fellow officers. Later on when Senior Officer Solis and I went to LSAP and declared we were 10-6 to begin PIT training, Officer Brian_Connor decided to come to our location and get into an aircraft and fly around in it for no reason other then his flaccid excuse of "Trying to learn to pilot here," I responded telling him he should do it off duty but he said "It's for my job." This breaks another regulation among for unofficial groups as they can not just give such a flaccid excuse such as "I am undercover therefore it's fine." (for the note: he did not say "I am undercover therefore it's fine." I just used it as a metaphor to what he typed saying "It's for my job to learn how to pilot; he was obviously stating his RCSO job) He is using a aircraft for a illegitimate reason while on police duty.  Senior Officer Solis stated that Officer Brian_Connor used a state vehicle to purposely ram me which I have to say is true, however I can not provide a screenshot due to it happening extremely fast.

Here is the link to the screenshots I have. All these screenshots have important things so please analyze them carefully, however for your convenience I boxed (red) the most important things I could find here that I directly mentioned in my testitmony: http://imgur.com/a/5VPMW


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Re: NONE-RP Report - [RCSO]Brian_Connor & Officer_Kitley [NEXUS]
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2014, 00:44:44 am »
Both officers have been notified:




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Re: NONE-RP Report - [RCSO]Brian_Connor & Officer_Kitley [NEXUS]
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2014, 01:05:23 am »
I would like to just say that in no screenshot or at any point during my RP have I used racial slurs, been anything but professional, even in the face of other SAPD officers (DSB) showing complete and utter disrespect to people who have been wonderful RP'ers. The accusations of harassment, racism,and flaming, are completely unfounded. I believe this is a direct attack from someone due to their own inability to handle a situation correctly. DSB on many occasions has shown to be very unprofessional at times, even going as far to say that all RCSO officers are unprofessional, when Travis and Chaplin are two of the most professional RP'ers I've ever encountered on an RP server. I won't sit here and beg for anything. This is rediculous, There was no reason I should've been reported, considering I've never had a verbal warning or a talking to. If this is how it is going to be, I will be sure to report any and all unprofessionalism I come across in ARPD. However, it seems as though I don't have a fighting chance and the truly professional standpoint would've been to PM me and ask me to change something, but that never happened. Instead, going through a seperate channel, and behind my back I am reported and my name tarnished, simply for being friends with someone. The point of RP is to help people and I admit to being a relatively new person to the world of SAMP. But did anyone ever advise me from outside RCSO? No. Did anyone care? no. Instead, these "Officers" sit and talk about other people behind their backs and wait for them to slip so that they can write a complaint instead of helping. That's all I have to say.

-Officer_Kitley

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Re: NONE-RP Report - [RCSO]Brian_Connor & Officer_Kitley [NEXUS]
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2014, 02:04:57 am »
Officer Kitley, It seems i have made a mistake when i posted the screenshots, it in fact was not you using racism but that was Brian_Connor, however typing in all caps on main chat is unproffesional. Now when i say that Travis is unproffesional it is because he does not know how to act around me. I say this because the RCSO breaks many of the rules that Unofficial groups are SUPPOSED to follow. And also I can not recall saying that to you Officer_Kitley, if i did then I would like to say that yes they do act unproffesional, at least the ones i see but this report is not about that. You are a small part in this report as all you were really seen doing was acting unproffesional by typing all caps on main chat. Other then this, i don't recall any unprofessional acts other then ramming me with your car later on like Senior Officer Solis and I stated in our earlier reports.  If you have the screenshots of me saying what you claimed I said please submit them or message them to me so I may see them.


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Re: NONE-RP Report - [RCSO]Brian_Connor & Officer_Kitley [NEXUS]
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2014, 02:30:10 am »
Although I don't remember ramming any car, and there is no evidence to support such claims, it is undeniable that I typed in all caps. However, seeing as how only one instance of such occurred in all the screenshots that have been posted I hardly see it fit for me to have been complained upon besides my affiliation with the RCSO, and the fact that it is apparent that you do not like the organization that once existed. I do apologize for any instance of myself being "Unprofessional" I have been studying and trying hard to learn the ins and outs of RP in SA:MP. But at any rate, you could've just as easily PM'ed me telling me not to do that and I would've gladly not done it again.

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Re: NONE-RP Report - [RCSO]Brian_Connor & Officer_Kitley [NEXUS]
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2014, 02:40:13 am »
I'm going to give my opinion even though it seems most of Kitley's complaints are going towards DarkShadowBlade.

Kitley, it seems you're under the impression we're issuing this report only to tarnish your image within the SAPD, when that is not the case. I, too, have been reported in the past and it hasn't affected my career. As you can see, you are only being accused of using caps in main chat along with Brian, also known as not acting professionally. We did told both of you to cool down at least two times, your infraction was committed before we did that.

Now, I'm not angry with anyone. I don't have a problem with RCSO and they have PM'd me saying they looked into the issue and took action. Nor do I have any problem with Brian or Kitley, but it's standard procedure to report any rule-breaking that couldn't be handled by admins/command staff in-game, in hopes it won't happen again.

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Re: NONE-RP Report - [RCSO]Brian_Connor & Officer_Kitley [NEXUS]
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2014, 22:22:22 pm »
Because Brian_Connor has not received his confirmation to the forums he asked me to post this on his behalf.


This is to acknowledge and repudiate the charges brought against me. I believe wholeheartedly that the reporter, as well as the witness, have some sort of "grudge" against the Red County Sheriff's Office for whatever reason. Not only that, but in carrying out their plan to "disband" the Sheriff's Office, they've perjured themselves and have lied under oath. Hopefully this message can explain more in depth.

   Earlier in the day in question, I had been driving around (in my patrol car) cruising around the Northern part of Los Santos as well as Red County. RCSO being an unofficial group they don't have jurisdictional boundaries, per se, however I like to stay away from the center/west/east/south portions of Los Santos. That's what LSPD/SAPD/ARPD is for. Anyway, as I was around the Mulholland area, Officer DarkShadowBlade approached and proceeded to make some sort of wisecrack against the RCSO. I didn't think twice about it, nor did I take the time to screenshot it, although there were a handful of other persons online that would be able to affirm this. Among them is my co-defendant/witness, Officer_Kitley. The officer spotted my RCSO cruiser and made a crack about how untrained or unprofessional we were (on public chat), to the effect of saying we're all idiots. Again, I have no visual proof of this, but Kitley can (and has) affirmed this. This has nothing to do with this report, per se, however it sets up the circumstances that this officer and possibly others are prejudiced against the RCSO for whatever reason.

   Now, to get onto the claims made against me,

   Let's start with the claim I drove a civilian vehicle, by choice, for no reason at all. This first of all is ridiculous. Every SAPD officer has, at one time or another, destroyed their cruiser and has needed to pickup a state "freecar". This was no exception. Matter of fact, earlier that day DarkShadowBlade was spotted doing the exact same thing. Since the vehicle I had picked up had only 3% fuel remaining, and I didn't have enough money to refuel the vehicle at the time, I decided to setup an RP situation for the LSPD officers whom had been parked in the same spot in Commerce for nearly if not over a half hour. I assumed they were AFK at first, but I rolled by and saw they were both there, so I proceeded to drive around the block to waste my little remaining fuel. It just so happened to be timed so perfectly it ran out of fuel in front of/next to the police cruiser. I hopped out, looked at the car for a second (RP'ing being in disbelief) and then walked away to the nearest parking lot. I expected the LSPD officers to either (a) move this vehicle out of the roadway as would be standard traffic clearing procedure, or (b) the officers to stop and question my character. They did neither. As evidenced in their screenshots, they were more interested in making the RCSO look bad by taking screenshots than actually acting on the small force-RP I had presented to them. Once Kitley came back from being AFK, I summoned him via CB radio to come give me a ride. On the way back to DPD we inevitably passed by the Officers and the out-of-fuel vehicle, and as Kitley pushed the vehicle off the roadway, I (in character) muttered to him "LSPD, not doing their job as usual". This is definitely not "disrespecting officers", as it was done IN CHARACTER and was done inside a vehicle. RP'ly speaking, they would have not been able to hear this, nor would have anyone else not in the immediate vicinity of our vehicle.

   Later, at DPD, Kitley accidentally car-jacked me (used enter instead of G), which due to my low health killed my character. We each posted 2-3 messages in general chat, out of character, in full caps. The first message in full caps (by me) was put in caps accidentally, but I stuck with it. This hardly constitutes "flaming" or "unprofessionalism". I would recommend the officer who reported this get a refresher course in what does constitute flaming and unprofessionalism, because they are quite apparently clueless. However, if usage of capital letters in general, out of character chat is against the rules, I admit to this and apologize.

   Furthermore, any claims of racism are extremely unfounded, seeing as Judism is a religion and not a race. Nothing derogatory was said about any group of people and no one was harrassed. There was absolutely no racism, in other words.

   Now, onto the aircraft-related screenshots. The first screenshot shows a shamal taxiing. What does this have to do with anything? Perhaps someone can tell me. The following three photos show nothing more than my game crashing. If you look at the game logs they will support this, my internet went down a good 6-7 times before finally giving out for good. I was without internet and TV for the rest of that evening. Furthermore, although they show my character to be blue (on police duty), I didn't use aircraft until after going off duty. There is nothing against flying an aircraft as a civilian on Argo, as far as I know. If I am mistaken, I apologize again. When officer DSB /pm'd me about "going off duty if I'm going to clown around", I was already off duty so I felt the need to reply in an asenine, sarcastic manner. I do apologize for that, although this was done over PM so no real need to apologize. I figured, since he claims I am on duty and need to stop clowning around on duty, I'll say I'm doing it for "work reasons" to shut him up.

   Lastly, I never attempted to hit any officer whilst in a civilian vehicle. That is completely unfounded and there is a reason the reporter has no proof of this... it never happened! I was simply parking my civilian vehicle in the allocated parking spaces in front of LSPD. Neither mine nor DSB's vehicle ever got a scratch on them. Just more unfounded lies coming from these suspicious characters.

   In conclusion, I find all these claims against myself and my fellow officer to be not only preposterous and unfounded, but they show flagrant disregard for the rules and regulations of the SAPD & ARPD. These officers have lied under oath and their claims would bring shame to any legitimate police officer whose image this could potentially tarnish. I would suggest a counter-investigation be brought against the two reporting officers in question, of course that is all up to the investigating officer, but I would highly recommend it. These officers have also brought up a similarly unfounded claim against one of the higher-up officials in the RCSO, so it is quite evident they have a grudge against that department.

   Thank you for your time and for reading,
   -Officer Brian Connor
   Former Red County Sheriff's Office Deputy.

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Re: NONE-RP Report - [RCSO]Brian_Connor & Officer_Kitley [NEXUS]
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2014, 00:47:03 am »

    Among them is my co-defendant/witness, Officer_Kitley. The officer spotted my RCSO cruiser and made a crack about how untrained or unprofessional we were (on public chat), to the effect of saying we're all idiots. Again, I have no visual proof of this, but Kitley can (and has) affirmed this. This has nothing to do with this report, per se, however it sets up the circumstances that this officer and possibly others are prejudiced against the RCSO for whatever reason.
Actually I said they were horrible because of they way they carry or carried themselves at the time of it. And i find it very interesting how another RCSO member is your witness on this so his statement could be biased towards my claim.

Now onto another one of your claims, yes I may have been driving a "freecar" BUT i declared 10-19 and got back to LSPD as quickly as I could. You did not, and a RP situation is not driving on the left side of the road while on duty; driving back and leaving your car there for no reason. You then decided to quickly run away without even telling us that you ran out of fuel.  Now when you deiced to mutter that LSPD not doing their job as usual, you are in fact disrespecting because you said "AS USUAL." And now onto your next claim... this is a NON-RP report. We are not accounting whether you said it in or out of character.

Now, onto your unprofessionalism, you wrote in all caps not once or twice but 3 times and did involve Anti-Semitic comments in there. I stated racism because many people like saying that Judaism is somehow a race and a religion. You used the religion in a negative way by saying "JEW BLOWED ME" and included typing "FUK U 2 DOLEN"
   
I'll say I'm doing it for "work reasons" to shut him up.
Now when you said to "shut me up" like you just admitted you are being unproffesional and even by typing it here you are showing it. And this is a non-rp report, PM is taken into account. And you CLEARLY are on duty, your name tag is blue and you are flying a tow engine propeller plane in the screenshot i took. And your PM is there to prove it. You are on cop duty and must act like it, not saying you're off duty when you are clearly on cop duty. Stop breaking regulations of Unofficial Groups. If you are on cop duty you can not say "Its for my job," you can not use these excuses. If you want to fool around in some aircraft do it off duty as you have no reason to do it on duty, and now when you admit to telling me "Its for your job" to shut me up you are adding to your unprofessionalism and you are clearly here to insult me due to what I may or may have not stated to Officer Kitley about the RCSO making your comments here to appear to be against me, I feel like adding that due to I am Jewish I take offense to your comments but you didn't even know that before hand so I don't need to hit you for this, but I do want you to admit that you made a Anti-Semetic Comment which I took offense to.

I didn't use aircraft until after going off duty
??? Are you ok there? Take a look at the screenshot I took Brian, you are CLEARLY flying it.

To finish up I feel like adding your conclusion is contradictory. You admited to have been acting unproffesional and even stated hatred towards me in your comment on your very post here. Whatever I may or may not have said to Officer_Kitley would not even hold argument here and infact just shows that you are being biased towards me because of earlier comments. This is not about your group RCSO but your actions that you did when I was having a ridealong with Senior Officer Solis

 - Signed, DarkShadowBlade


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Re: NONE-RP Report - [RCSO]Brian_Connor & Officer_Kitley [NEXUS]
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2014, 01:18:51 am »
Again, I post for Brian Connor


Firstly, I had indeed declared 10-19 on RCSO's CB channel. Since we are RP'ing being in different departments, I did not declare it over the public police band obviously. Now, when did I drive on the left side of the road? You have no proof of this and I only said "I WAS driving on the left side of the road" to mock your typo. Neither that nor my use of the word "jew" instead of "you" (a common form of "internet slang", and which by the way I said "Jew blowed me up" not "Jew blowed me") constitutes unprofessionalism. Professionalism has to do with something completely IC, not OOC. I did not act unprofessionally within my character, I simply made some remarks in public, out of character chat.

Second, me wanting you to shut up has nothing to do with professionalism. You are not my superior, you are my equal. You have no reason to be giving me orders, and I have no reason to respond to your orders. As I stated before, although my tag shows blue (probably one of many bugs in RS5) I had indeed gone off duty. If someone would care to look at the logs they will show this. And you being Jewish and an avid web browser you should have already familiarized yourself with this sort of web slang. I actually picked up the habit of interchanging "you" and "jew" from a Jewish friend of mine. I apologize professionally if you took offense to an out of character comment, however out of character, in real life, I think you should grow up. Someone interchanging "you" and "jew" is going to be probably one of the least offensive usages of the word "jew" you'll find on the internet.

Lastly, your rude and harsh comments toward the RCSO were placed long before you and Officer Solis began your ridealong. This, coupled with your skewing of the truth here, and your false accusations toward Undersheriff Travis, show that you do indeed have something against RCSO, whether you'd like to admit it or not. I'd also like to point out that neither Kitley nor I are longer in the RCSO, in fact some could say I have "harsh" feelings toward them, so I have no reason to be sticking up for the RCSO. Kitley and I have moved on to pursue other interests within the server.

If you need to pursue any more angles, feel free to throw them at me.

-Officer Brian Connor
Former Red County Sheriff's Office Deputy.

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Re: NONE-RP Report - [RCSO]Brian_Connor & Officer_Kitley [NEXUS]
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2014, 01:34:47 am »
This is to acknowledge and repudiate the charges brought against me. I believe wholeheartedly that the reporter, as well as the witness, have some sort of "grudge" against the Red County Sheriff's Office for whatever reason. Not only that, but in carrying out their plan to "disband" the Sheriff's Office, they've perjured themselves and have lied under oath. Hopefully this message can explain more in depth.

Right, at the same time you acknowledge and deny the charges. I have already explained that I don't hold a grudge against RCSO, as I haven't come close to any of their members before this report was made. I'm the one who made the report, and Dark is nothing but an official witness. RCSO also thanked me for the report and promised to take actions, so it seems that they do not believe our motive was to disband the group. So there's really not much evidence that this report was done with a malicious intent in mind.

Earlier in the day in question, I had been driving around (in my patrol car) cruising around the Northern part of Los Santos as well as Red County. RCSO being an unofficial group they don't have jurisdictional boundaries, per se, however I like to stay away from the center/west/east/south portions of Los Santos. That's what LSPD/SAPD/ARPD is for. Anyway, as I was around the Mulholland area, Officer DarkShadowBlade approached and proceeded to make some sort of wisecrack against the RCSO. I didn't think twice about it, nor did I take the time to screenshot it, although there were a handful of other persons online that would be able to affirm this. Among them is my co-defendant/witness, Officer_Kitley. The officer spotted my RCSO cruiser and made a crack about how untrained or unprofessional we were (on public chat), to the effect of saying we're all idiots. Again, I have no visual proof of this, but Kitley can (and has) affirmed this. This has nothing to do with this report, per se, however it sets up the circumstances that this officer and possibly others are prejudiced against the RCSO for whatever reason.

Looks like Dark admits this. Either way, it should have been handled in another report to command or something. However, you're right that it does set up context to this whole thing because it seems you decided lash back at Dark for whatever insult he caused you earlier that night. And since we're setting things into context, I recall when I first joined the server, I spawned at LVPD. Dark asked me to do a ride along with him, to which I agreed so I drove all the way to LSPD. On the way, on the strip, I noticed you stopped your LVPD cruiser and went out to get a vehicle similar to the ones in the pictures. I asked you if your cruiser was out of fuel or something. I don't remember exactly what response did you give, but I believe it was something along the lines of just checking it and returning to your cruiser.

Let's start with the claim I drove a civilian vehicle, by choice, for no reason at all. This first of all is ridiculous. Every SAPD officer has, at one time or another, destroyed their cruiser and has needed to pickup a state "freecar". This was no exception. Matter of fact, earlier that day DarkShadowBlade was spotted doing the exact same thing.

Again, irrelevant to this case.

Since the vehicle I had picked up had only 3% fuel remaining, and I didn't have enough money to refuel the vehicle at the time, I decided to setup an RP situation for the LSPD officers whom had been parked in the same spot in Commerce for nearly if not over a half hour. I assumed they were AFK at first, but I rolled by and saw they were both there, so I proceeded to drive around the block to waste my little remaining fuel. It just so happened to be timed so perfectly it ran out of fuel in front of/next to the police cruiser. I hopped out, looked at the car for a second (RP'ing being in disbelief) and then walked away to the nearest parking lot. I expected the LSPD officers to either (a) move this vehicle out of the roadway as would be standard traffic clearing procedure, or (b) the officers to stop and question my character. They did neither. As evidenced in their screenshots, they were more interested in making the RCSO look bad by taking screenshots than actually acting on the small force-RP I had presented to them.

Right... so instead of simply driving towards the LSPD which was a mere two apples away from we were standing and pick up a cruiser there, you decided to setup an "RP" situation to which we were never made wary of its existence, in order to see if we complied to this "RP" situation and clear the vehicle from the streets. First of all, we were clearly doing a ride along and earlier reported 10-6 on the radio. It was no more our job than yours to clear this vehicle from the street, in fact you could've instead drove to LSPD with the remaining 3% fuel instead of driving around main street with a civilian vehicle to deplete its fuel. I guess it's obvious from your statement that you were the one trying to harm our image.

On the way back to DPD we inevitably passed by the Officers and the out-of-fuel vehicle, and as Kitley pushed the vehicle off the roadway, I (in character) muttered to him "LSPD, not doing their job as usual". This is definitely not "disrespecting officers", as it was done IN CHARACTER and was done inside a vehicle. RP'ly speaking, they would have not been able to hear this, nor would have anyone else not in the immediate vicinity of our vehicle.

Please read the title of this report. It is a non-RP report, so any evidence, whether it was role-play or not, counts. Furthermore, if you really didn't want us to hear you, you could have used /w instead of /me, obviously the intention was to get us to read your provocation. And like Dark said, "as usual", what did you mean by that? That LSPD has always been incompetent or something?

Later, at DPD, Kitley accidentally car-jacked me (used enter instead of G), which due to my low health killed my character. We each posted 2-3 messages in general chat, out of character, in full caps. The first message in full caps (by me) was put in caps accidentally, but I stuck with it. This hardly constitutes "flaming" or "unprofessionalism". I would recommend the officer who reported this get a refresher course in what does constitute flaming and unprofessionalism, because they are quite apparently clueless. However, if usage of capital letters in general, out of character chat is against the rules, I admit to this and apologize.

First of, I don't know how you can accidentally carjack-kill someone that way, even with little health. Only way I know is by doing a trick  from the passenger side. Secondly, from the screenshots, it looked more like an explosion than an "accidental" carjacking. Thirdly, looking at the radar you two were anywhere but Dillimore. And I suggest you read Rusty's topic that I posted on this topic concerning professionalism on the field, so you understand the why of the charges before claiming I'm clueless.

Furthermore, any claims of racism are extremely unfounded, seeing as Judism is a religion and not a race. Nothing derogatory was said about any group of people and no one was harrassed. There was absolutely no racism, in other words.

Jews have been treated, and they also see themselves, as a distinct ethnic/racial group. So yes, while Judaism is indeed a religion, Jewish people can also be thought of as a "race", so the racism charge still stands.

Now, onto the aircraft-related screenshots. The first screenshot shows a shamal taxiing. What does this have to do with anything? Perhaps someone can tell me. The following three photos show nothing more than my game crashing. If you look at the game logs they will support this, my internet went down a good 6-7 times before finally giving out for good. I was without internet and TV for the rest of that evening.

Sure, I'll tell you. The Shamal was taxiing just meters away from our position, does that answer your question? I wasn't quick enough to take a screenshot at the more timely moment, but you decided to land the Shamal just next to me, without even deploying the wheels at that. How does that constitute "taxiing"?

Ah, right, so it was just a mere coincidence (three times, even!) that your game just happened to crash precisely when you were flying the Leviathan/Beagle directly into us, with the helices/wings pointing towards our cruiser. And if your Internet connection was really failing, funny how none of the screenshots show a time bubble next to your name, or your name accompanied by "has joined the server" on the chat, eh?

Furthermore, although they show my character to be blue (on police duty), I didn't use aircraft until after going off duty. There is nothing against flying an aircraft as a civilian on Argo, as far as I know. If I am mistaken, I apologize again. When officer DSB /pm'd me about "going off duty if I'm going to clown around", I was already off duty so I felt the need to reply in an asenine, sarcastic manner. I do apologize for that, although this was done over PM so no real need to apologize. I figured, since he claims I am on duty and need to stop clowning around on duty, I'll say I'm doing it for "work reasons" to shut him up.

So you decided to reply to Dark's PM in an asinine and sarcastic matter, instead of radioing that you were 10-7, or telling him you were off-duty. Let me make it clear that you are not considered to be off duty until your name color is white, you log off or you specifically say the reasons why you are no longer available and thus off duty.

Lastly, I never attempted to hit any officer whilst in a civilian vehicle. That is completely unfounded and there is a reason the reporter has no proof of this... it never happened! I was simply parking my civilian vehicle in the allocated parking spaces in front of LSPD. Neither mine nor DSB's vehicle ever got a scratch on them. Just more unfounded lies coming from these suspicious characters.

First of all, why couldn't you simply drive towards the parking lot instead of the front of LSPD where Dark was standing? Secondly, why were you on the wrong side of the road in the last screenshot I uploaded? Thirdly, why is it you decided to park on the sidewalk just a meter away from where Dark was, if you never had any intention of hitting him (or making it look like you attempted to hit him)?

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Re: NONE-RP Report - [RCSO]Brian_Connor & Officer_Kitley [NEXUS]
« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2014, 01:44:39 am »
Firstly, I had indeed declared 10-19 on RCSO's CB channel. Since we are RP'ing being in different departments, I did not declare it over the public police band obviously.

RCSO is in no way a separate department from SAPD/ARPD. The commissioner has already made it clear in the past, and the command staff has made it clear that you must use /r first for any communications to other officers before any other means of communication (/cb and the like). I guess, since you decided to call it in on RCSO's CB channel instead of /r, you're defying the regulations put forward by Carl Banks Fasi and the command staff, further tainting the image of the group you were in.

Professionalism has to do with something completely IC, not OOC. I did not act unprofessionally within my character, I simply made some remarks in public, out of character chat.

You should know by now that IC/OOC is not supported in Argonath RPG. While you may use it at will, you can in no way force other people to use it or, in this case, use it as an excuse for your behavior. Whether it was for your character or out of it, this is a non-RP report so both count. Nor is it specified that professionalism only counts towards your police character.

Second, me wanting you to shut up has nothing to do with professionalism. You are not my superior, you are my equal. You have no reason to be giving me orders, and I have no reason to respond to your orders.

Then you should have followed your own advice and either have not responded to Dark's PM, or have done it in a respectful manner instead of trying to get him to "shut up". He's your equal after all.



I think it's pretty clear by now that changing of "you" for Jew carried some pejorative connotations. Sure, it's probably not offensive at all or little, but it shouldn't have been said either way.

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Re: NONE-RP Report - [RCSO]Brian_Connor & Officer_Kitley [NEXUS]
« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2014, 01:47:09 am »
Neither that nor my use of the word "jew" instead of "you" (a common form of "internet slang", and which by the way I said "Jew blowed me up" not "Jew blowed me") constitutes unprofessionalism. P
First of all you need to watch your words when you type stuff like that, you can say something else. Using that kind of "slang" is Anti-Semitic. You have no reason to put a slang for Judaism and compare it to you. At all. You have made an Anti-Semitic comment, a internet slang you would've used would be "U," and not using someone's religion. You are denying things or trying to find ways out because you don't want to be punished. Do not lie about your anti-Semitic comments, you just bring disgrace among yourself and are insulting religions because of your foolishness to use such "slangs." No such words will ever be used in Argonath, one that insults race or religion, regardless of its "slang" term. This could result in worse punishments if it were to be taken to the admins.

Second, me wanting you to shut up has nothing to do with professionalism. You are not my superior, you are my equal. You have no reason to be giving me orders, and I have no reason to respond to your orders.
And now, you are supposed to "respect any officer as you would your superior," and when I tell you not to clown around on duty, I am telling you that you shouldn't be breaking SAPD Regulations. Capt. Rusty posted that there will be no clowning around on duty. And if it was a bug, you would've told me in that PM and not tell me "It's for my Job" It seems like you're lying to cover the fact up that you don't want get in trouble for making a mistake. Allow me to inform you that if you are found lying on this. You will get into some serious trouble. If it was a bug you would've re logged or told me or on main chat. You did not. You were on duty.

- Signed, DarkShadowBlade


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Re: NONE-RP Report - [RCSO]Brian_Connor & Officer_Kitley [NEXUS]
« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2014, 02:05:05 am »
For Brian Connor




- I don't think you understand. I'm here to acknowledge there is a complaint against me. However, I am repudiating all the ones I mentioned above.

- Untrue. There was a vehicle, similar to the one I was driving in your screenshots, parked on the strip, facing northbound in the southbound lanes. I proceeded to move said vehicle with my cruiser. I then passed you and Officer DSB who were stopped on the right side of the freeway heading back into LS, while in my cruiser. The vehicle I was in in your screenshots was from the public parking lot down the street from your location, ajacent the beach. Said vehicle was retrieved later that evening, after my vehicle was incapacitated by a suspect which I was helping LSPD pursue (hence why I was in that area of LS, being RCSO). As I stated previously, said vehicle was nearly out of fuel, so I got in it with the intent of attempting to force you two to RP. It only took 3 runs around the block to run out of fuel, and instead of staying in character and moving the vehicle or stopping and questioning me, you took pictures and talked, possibly even schemed, in private.

- How is this irrelevant? I am being accused of driving a civilian vehicle for no reason, for my own personal pleasure. However, one can argue another officer was doing the same thing. How is this irrelevant? LSPD officers can't be accused of this?

- LSPD was not my headquarters. I was an RCSO deputy and as such always retrieved my cruisers from RCSO headquarters, in Dillimore. No one was trying to harm your image. I was trying to setup an RP situation, a simple one which would have taken a mere 30 seconds to complete, which you responded to very OOC'ly. And might I say, unprofessionally.

- Obviously you can. You pleading ignorance is not an excuse. It's happened many times before, and if you've ever played SA single player you'll have encountered the frustration that is being killed by a carjacker. And as you say, Kitley was trying to get in from the passenger side. We were going to go patrol together. However, he hopped into the driver seat instead of the passenger seat, killing my character.

- False. A religion is not and can not be a race. They are two wholly seperate entities.

- What does the shamal taxiing close to you fellows have to do with anything? I was roleplaying taxiing around the runway to an open position where I could take off. At the point in time that picture was taken, I was waiting for the pair of you to stop fooling around and clear off a major airport runway.

- Ha, good thinking. Except, I crashed many more times than just 3. Anyone who was on that evening could attest to that. And, in none of the pictures were the wings or helices "pointed at you", all photos show aircraft in varying levels of descent, in the case of the Leviathan, right at the point of impact.

- I was off duty, whether you like it or not. I had gone off duty at DPD prior to taking a civilian Yosemite from around the corner and going to LSX. The fact the server bugged causing my name to appear blue has nothing to do with me. As officers within different departments, I had no reason to answer to him or radio him on the open police channel. I radio'd my dispatch that I was off duty and that's all that matters, frankly.

- The parking lot is for impounded vehicles and police vehicles. The parking area in front of the building is for parking civilian vehicles and dropping off prisoners. I was facing the wrong way because Officer DSB was too far back for me to park behind his vehicle, thus I crossed over the center line when adjacent to the parking space and parked against traffic. Officer DSB was inside of his cruiser and I made no attempt to hit him or his cruiser. I'm not sure if this is supposed to be an insult on my parking skills or what, but it's a poor attempt.

I applaud the attempt but it is laughable. You're still trying to skew the truth to favor the pair of you. The fact of the matter is, the two of you had a mindset that evening. Your mindset was to collect evidence against anyone within the RCSO with the intent of either having those officer's fired or having the department disbanded. You avoided roleplaying in favor of plotting. That, my good sirs, is deplorable.

-Officer Brian Connor
Former Red County Sheriff's Office Deputy

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Re: NONE-RP Report - [RCSO]Brian_Connor & Officer_Kitley [NEXUS]
« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2014, 02:08:39 am »
Once more for Brian





@Solis

- No one said they are different departments. We are roleplaying, after all, and we roleplay they are different. I know full well RCSO was an unofficial group.

- You are correct. And I was choosing to use it, "at will" as you say. I was not forcing anyone else to use it, however, you are assuming and therefore forcing me to appear to not be using it.

- I replied in a respectful, trolling manner. If I wanted to tell him to shut up plain and simple, I would have done it in a much less pretty way.

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@DSB

- "You NEED to watch your words". I don't need to do a single thing. This is the internet. Welcome to it.

- I didn't know I was bugged until I saw your screenshots. My text and name were appearing in white, not blue. I had no reason to suspect the server was bugged and you didn't explain yourself better.

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Re: NONE-RP Report - [RCSO]Brian_Connor & Officer_Kitley [NEXUS]
« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2014, 02:34:13 am »

@DSB

-. I don't need to do a single thing. This is the internet. Welcome to it.

That doesn't constitute why you are being anti-semetic, AT ALL. You have no reason to being unproffesional and ruin the image of SAPD.

- I didn't know I was bugged until I saw your screenshots. My text and name were appearing in white, not blue. I had no reason to suspect the server was bugged and you didn't explain yourself better.
Then you should have told me that you were bugged instead of saying "It's for my job," You never clarified you were bugged, even Officer_Kitley can state that. You have a serious problem with this case as you are trying to find your way out of it, and continuing to disregard this community and the beliefs that each member has by not informing people you are bugged to let yourself get drawn into a fight (IF you were bugged, which I HIGHLY doubt due to your absence of informing myself or Senior Officer Solis) and being anti-semetic.


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Re: NONE-RP Report - [RCSO]Brian_Connor & Officer_Kitley [NEXUS]
« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2014, 02:54:58 am »
- Untrue. There was a vehicle, similar to the one I was driving in your screenshots, parked on the strip, facing northbound in the southbound lanes. I proceeded to move said vehicle with my cruiser. I then passed you and Officer DSB who were stopped on the right side of the freeway heading back into LS, while in my cruiser. The vehicle I was in in your screenshots was from the public parking lot down the street from your location, ajacent the beach. Said vehicle was retrieved later that evening, after my vehicle was incapacitated by a suspect which I was helping LSPD pursue (hence why I was in that area of LS, being RCSO). As I stated previously, said vehicle was nearly out of fuel, so I got in it with the intent of attempting to force you two to RP. It only took 3 runs around the block to run out of fuel, and instead of staying in character and moving the vehicle or stopping and questioning me, you took pictures and talked, possibly even schemed, in private.

As far as I recall, during the time when I logged into the server and went for Dark to give him a ride along, there were no suspects in the vicinity of Los Santos. Furthermore, we were in no "freeway heading back into LS", unless you consider the Market main street to be a freeway and not part of the city. Either way, irrelevant. Like I said before, you could have easily just went to pick a cruiser instead of forcing us into your RP when we were clearly busy. By the way, you can't just force people to role-play, it's not allowed.

- How is this irrelevant? I am being accused of driving a civilian vehicle for no reason, for my own personal pleasure. However, one can argue another officer was doing the same thing. How is this irrelevant? LSPD officers can't be accused of this?

You seem to be under the impression that LSPD and other jurisdictions still exist, when they don't. Yes, they do exist script-wise, but you're assigned to one based on an algorithm when you connect to the server or go on duty. The only existing department right now is the SAPD/Metropolitan department, which operates in the whole state. And to answer your question - "LSPD" officers can also be accused and punished for this.

- LSPD was not my headquarters. I was an RCSO deputy and as such always retrieved my cruisers from RCSO headquarters, in Dillimore. No one was trying to harm your image. I was trying to setup an RP situation, a simple one which would have taken a mere 30 seconds to complete, which you responded to very OOC'ly. And might I say, unprofessionally.
- No one said they are different departments. We are roleplaying, after all, and we roleplay they are different. I know full well RCSO was an unofficial group.

And again, why couldn't you simply go to LSPD and get a cruiser back there, then go back to your HQ? Or ask us for a ride towards RCSO's HQ? Since you obviously wanted to force us into your RP, you could have also asked us for a ride. There's a lot of things you could have done that would have mediated things before this report was posted. Why are you treating LSPD/SAPD as seperate from RCSO? It's been made more than clear in the past that unofficial groups are not separated from SAPD.

- Obviously you can. You pleading ignorance is not an excuse. It's happened many times before, and if you've ever played SA single player you'll have encountered the frustration that is being killed by a carjacker. And as you say, Kitley was trying to get in from the passenger side. We were going to go patrol together. However, he hopped into the driver seat instead of the passenger seat, killing my character.

Obviously I'm pleading ignorance because in my five years playing GTA San Andreas I haven't heard of such a bug. Let me get this straight, did he get into your vehicle from the driver or passenger side? If it was from the driver side, why couldn't he pressed the directional keys or something to prevent himself from carjacking you? If he entered from the passenger side while pressing Enter/F instead of G, obviously he also pressed the other keys needed to perform the carjack-kill bug, as you can't simply kill a person that way with only pressing the enter key.

- False. A religion is not and can not be a race. They are two wholly seperate entities.

It's already been made clear that a Judaism can also be treated as an ethnic group or, as you say, a race.

- What does the shamal taxiing close to you fellows have to do with anything? I was roleplaying taxiing around the runway to an open position where I could take off. At the point in time that picture was taken, I was waiting for the pair of you to stop fooling around and clear off a major airport runway.

- Ha, good thinking. Except, I crashed many more times than just 3. Anyone who was on that evening could attest to that. And, in none of the pictures were the wings or helices "pointed at you", all photos show aircraft in varying levels of descent, in the case of the Leviathan, right at the point of impact.

Again, why did you suddenly decide to "RP" doing a taxiing when we were there, and why did you use the runway we were in at the moment instead of the other one which, as far as I know, is the one supposed to be used for incoming aircraft? You could have told us in /p or something else to clear the way, but you did not. You still haven't explained why you did not deploy your wheels if you wanted to make an actual landing.

And if you think none of those pictures show anything but you clearly trying to hit our cruisers with the helices/wing, then I can't help you.

- I was off duty, whether you like it or not. I had gone off duty at DPD prior to taking a civilian Yosemite from around the corner and going to LSX. The fact the server bugged causing my name to appear blue has nothing to do with me. As officers within different departments, I had no reason to answer to him or radio him on the open police channel. I radio'd my dispatch that I was off duty and that's all that matters, frankly.
- I didn't know I was bugged until I saw your screenshots. My text and name were appearing in white, not blue. I had no reason to suspect the server was bugged and you didn't explain yourself better.

For anyone who comes and reads this part, I'd like to show the following screenshot that was part of the evidence posted: http://i.imgur.com/8GuiYuL.png If you zoom in at the driver seat of the Leviathan, you can clearly see that Brian was wearing the desert county sheriff skin at the time. He's now claiming that a bug occurred while going off duty which caused his name to appear blue to everyone but him. Apparently his skin also got bugged but he wasn't aware of it during the entire incident. Since such a bug hasn't been found to occur in recent weeks, this claim is most likely than not, false.

If you meant the name showed white for you on the score list while tabbing, let me tell you that any selected player (by default it will be yours at the top of the list) will have his name appear white and not the actual color.

I applaud the attempt but it is laughable. You're still trying to skew the truth to favor the pair of you. The fact of the matter is, the two of you had a mindset that evening. Your mindset was to collect evidence against anyone within the RCSO with the intent of either having those officer's fired or having the department disbanded. You avoided roleplaying in favor of plotting. That, my good sirs, is deplorable.

The only one here trying to skew the truth in his favor is you. We've provided the screenshots that corroborate our story, and have addressed each point of your defense. On the other hand, you haven't provided evidence and your defense seems to be getting weaker each time you post, now even claiming your name somehow got bugged and showed blue for everyone else.

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Re: NONE-RP Report - [RCSO]Brian_Connor & Officer_Kitley [NEXUS]
« Reply #18 on: March 10, 2014, 05:14:05 am »

San Andreas Police Department
9/3/2014


STATEMENT IN REGARDS TO THE CLOSURE OF THIS REPORT

On the March the 9th  2014, at 09:31 HOURS a report was submitted by Solis as a lawful citizen of the United States of Argonath.
Since then, an investigation has been conducted by the SAPD command staff member:
- Staff Sergeant Nexus Riggs

The summary and conclusion of the report has now been decided and will be released to the public.

--Statements, photographs and witness testaments of the allegations has been reviewed. Officer Connor found to have breached SAPD Rule & Regulation #5 whilst on SAPD duty, also failed to maintain professional behavior
in public by the use of caps and impudence. Since there is no supplementary details regarding Officer Kitley's conducts, he will be verbally warned for nonprofessional behavior in the public eye.   

-- In conclusion, Officer Connor has been suspended from duty period of 2 days.
-- Officer Kitley verbally warned for misdemeanor.

If the verdict of this report seems unfair to anyone, you can report this to a Captain via the ARPD Forum PM and we might reopen the case if your argument is valid enough.


Signed,
Staff Sergeant Nexus Riggs.

 

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