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Offline Will

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Some tencodes that could be useful
« on: July 19, 2014, 01:05:54 am »
There are some tencodes that do not exist but should.

10-5:Negative
Instead of 10-4 (message received)
10-6:Stationary
Used when staying in one location and when not active.
e.g: "10-6 in the department garage, over"
10-50:Trafficstop
Used when reporting a traffic stop.
e.g: "10-50 in Idlewood, white Infernus with 2 occupants, over"
10-54:Suspect down
Used when suspect is neutralized
e.g: "SU0 10-54, LFU, Code 14, over"
10-70:Additional unit is needed
Used when in-need of one additional unit.
e.g: "10-70 in a trafficstop, Idlewood, over"
10-99:Action is over
Used when any action is over.
e.g: "10-80 10-99, Code 4, over"


And finally, the most important one in my opinion, a general code that will finally solve the misuse of Code 4,

Code 5:Clear
Used when reporting a clear area.
e.g: "Rodeo, Code 5, over"

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Offline Andrew Banks

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Re: Some tencodes that could be useful
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2014, 02:11:40 am »
At the begging of this year, we had a cleanup of the codes. This was because new players found it hard to study all codes and remember them.
Hence why the codes list has been shortened, as far as I remember. A few weeks ago someone suggested some codes and they got denied because of the reason I stated above.

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Offline Will

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Re: Some tencodes that could be useful
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2014, 02:17:09 am »
At the begging of this year, we had a cleanup of the codes. This was because new players found it hard to study all codes and remember them.
Hence why the codes list has been shortened, as far as I remember. A few weeks ago someone suggested some codes and they got denied because of the reason I stated above.
I suppose Code 5 will not be hard to remember, forget the rest.

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Re: Some tencodes that could be useful
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2014, 05:50:29 am »
I don't really support any of these code changes as half of the promote laziness and "bloat" the code list. Constantly making changes to the code list will confuse a lot of the current officers on duty with what's new and what's not on the list anymore.

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Offline Chief J. Schappell

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Re: Some tencodes that could be useful
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2014, 06:16:10 am »
Personally I don't see an issue with only the original ARPD codes being used. The list was decent, easy to remember, and wasn't bloated. I even based ARFD's short list off of it for cross-communication purposes.

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Re: Some tencodes that could be useful
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2014, 08:26:38 am »
We have had numerous amount of officers who did not memorize or understand the amount of codes we had in the past. Additionally every police officer who goes on police duty is also on SAPD duty, which means they are obligated to memorize all the basic police codes to communicate effectively without confusion. As this is our global effort to ensure almost all officers understand them easily is why we reduced it and simplified it to general level. We encourage all officers to use common words, phrases and abbreviations instead of codes to enhance communication at all times.

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Re: Some tencodes that could be useful
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2014, 08:52:51 am »
Many high ranks support better communication rather than speaking like a robot, and I support it too.
Does it sound better saying "U0A1: Traffic stop on a black vehicle, we're positioned at Temple, requesting additional unit" or with robotic codes?
   
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Offline Jake Parker

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Re: Some tencodes that could be useful
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2014, 09:33:31 am »
Well, my opinion we have a full list it takes new officers a couple of days to pass a session of only the police codes this shows how hard it is to study for it and remember it as soon as possible. We have a nice list with codes which is for the basic furthermore we should communicate as nexus and matthew stated there is nothing wrong with it and easier for new officer to understand the situation. Else you should make a code for every simple thing, i face officers each day which do not know the basic codes and ignore the most of it we want to avoid this.

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Offline Will

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Re: Some tencodes that could be useful
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2014, 09:35:17 am »
I understand.
But I would still like to read your opinions regarding Code 5.
People constantly misuse Code 4. (Matthew :P)
They use Code 4 when reporting a clear area, when it means No further assistance required.
There are not a lot of codes, so I don't see how one additional code will confuse players.

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Re: Some tencodes that could be useful
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2014, 09:39:41 am »
I understand.
But I would still like to read your opinions regarding Code 5.
People constantly misuse Code 4. (Matthew :P)
They use Code 4 when reporting a clear area, when it means No further assistance required.
There are not a lot of codes, so I don't see how one additional code will confuse players.

Then tell them in radio what is the correct way to use them..

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Offline Matthew Carter

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Re: Some tencodes that could be useful
« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2014, 10:16:11 am »
Code 4 means there's no need for units at your location, if you're at some part of city and it's clear, then logically, you don't need any units there since it's clear.
I asked Leon to confirm this, and he agreed, you were there with me and I told you about it, still you wanted to go your way.

The codes are kinda dynamic, for example, many people use C30 just to request C3 backup while the code actually means officer in danger and once you arrive, you just see bunch unarmed civilians nearby..
The codes should be just a little indication of the situation, if you want greater description then you should talk it out with letters and describe it properly like a human being.
   
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Offline Leon Arallian

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Re: Some tencodes that could be useful
« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2014, 10:33:18 am »
Although it's a lot better to just say "area clear" or just "clear" which is why I prefer english rather than codes and abbreviatives.
A few codes I can agree with since I use them myself :roll: but some are better off being told in the language everyone understands(if they can, of course.) to avoid misunderstandings.
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Offline Will

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Re: Some tencodes that could be useful
« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2014, 11:28:00 am »
Code 4 means there's no need for units at your location, if you're at some part of city and it's clear, then logically, you don't need any units there since it's clear.
I asked Leon to confirm this, and he agreed, you were there with me and I told you about it, still you wanted to go your way.

The codes are kinda dynamic, for example, many people use C30 just to request C3 backup while the code actually means officer in danger and once you arrive, you just see bunch unarmed civilians nearby..
The codes should be just a little indication of the situation, if you want greater description then you should talk it out with letters and describe it properly like a human being.
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Plam and Rusty agreed with me!


I understand.
But I would still like to read your opinions regarding Code 5.
People constantly misuse Code 4. (Matthew :P)
They use Code 4 when reporting a clear area, when it means No further assistance required.
There are not a lot of codes, so I don't see how one additional code will confuse players.

Then tell them in radio what is the correct way to use them..
"Williams || U1 arrived to the trafficstop, Code 4, over"

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Offline Jake Parker

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Re: Some tencodes that could be useful
« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2014, 11:44:51 am »
As i see rusty didnt agreed  with you he only agreed on the fact that C4 is misused that has nothing to do with you fact of Code 5

Offline Will

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Re: Some tencodes that could be useful
« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2014, 11:49:28 am »
As i see rusty didnt agreed  with you he only agreed on the fact that C4 is misused that has nothing to do with you fact of Code 5
These are two different topics.
In the first topic, I just asked if players really misuse Code 4, I didn't mention any suggestion regarding Code 5.

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Offline Jake Parker

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Re: Some tencodes that could be useful
« Reply #15 on: July 19, 2014, 15:52:35 pm »
Indeed and rusty mentioned you that people do not use Code 4 with the right meaning so it's bullshit that you say rusty agreed with me.

Offline Will

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Re: Some tencodes that could be useful
« Reply #16 on: July 19, 2014, 16:53:31 pm »
Indeed and rusty mentioned you that people do not use Code 4 with the right meaning so it's bullshit that you say rusty agreed with me.
I only made sure I am right, and he said I am.
He said nothing about Code 5, didn't mention it twice or even once.
Don't mix between the two.

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Offline Francisco Martinez

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Re: Some tencodes that could be useful
« Reply #17 on: July 19, 2014, 22:59:30 pm »
And ban all letters from /r. From now on only numbers. You guys forget that there are players that go on cop duty once in a while to have fun, do you think they get 90% of the codes you guys insert? Keep it simple, write stuff so everyone can understand. You can play robocops on the local chat, or go to TeamSpeak and do the "tchhhhhhhhhh" sound every time you stop talking,
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Offline Will

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Re: Some tencodes that could be useful
« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2014, 23:20:59 pm »
Guys, forget all codes.
I would like to read your opinions regarding Code 5.
Forget the rest!

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Offline Francisco Martinez

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Re: Some tencodes that could be useful
« Reply #19 on: July 20, 2014, 00:09:07 am »
Code 5  - 5 characters. Clear - 5 characters.

The idea is to shorten things up, therefore using another code is useless. And Code 5 was previously used by DPD so watch out.
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