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Offline Monte Montague

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Re: [SAPD COMPLAINT] - Mikal, [NP]InfernalCurse
« Reply #20 on: October 22, 2014, 16:50:26 pm »
Do not make this a report against me.
This report is against you.

 [SAPD COMPLAINT] - Mikal, [NP]InfernalCurse

Please provide evidence of my "non-stop abusive behavior" as I really do not recall any, I am also not interested in joining SAPD patrols, I am here to serve and protect the citizens, not to serve and suck up to SAPD senior staff.
I show respect to those who deserve it, if I don't show you as much respect as YOU THINK YOU DESERVE then it isn't my problem, maybe you're doing something wrong.

not to serve and suck up to SAPD senior staff.

Prime example.
Yes, but DarkShadowBlade has demonstrated unprofessionalism both in-game and in his own complaint against myself and InfernalCurse.

Anyway, isn't the ignorance great, I mean, senior SAPD staff who stunt at Pershing Square in state vehicles are in the complaints section moaning about other police officers, it's absolutely bliss.

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Yes, whilst I was busy dealing with a disturbance where a civilian wouldn't move off the road you were busy doing that, thank you for your contribution officer Rosso, it has helped this complaint move much further.

Let me just clarify that I am not against the SAPD, but am happy being simply an SAPD Officer left to enforce the law and keep citizens safe without told what to do by senior staff who can't seem to stay on the straight and narrow themselves.

There are many cases where Offier Luke_Rosso is stunting at Pershing SQ.
He does not understand that it's just plain wrong, and I'm being accused of being unprofessional because I do not attend an organised patrol led by him.

Today I capture a picture from my dash cam where he is stunt or something and then an officers who is in his passenger seat dies. I also got into his car then he wrong ramped, I turned on recording as a joke and he tells me to get the f**k out, then I get out, he then stops pursuing the suspect and drives off, and I run to LSPD.

I am being victimized and bullied. It's as simple as that.
At once they say I am a good officer then they cause me pain and say stuff in the public chat like "if people want to play ball, let's play" and "if the shoe fits, lace it up".

It's turning into a war, and it's really unorganized report, we need someone to volunteer to come in to bring order, my higher ranking officers are trying to demotivate the lower ranks, they make me look bad but have not ever offered me to learn what they learned, so mistakes like sending a person  on a cycle a ticket, didn't happen.

I'm a good officer and I will like to do my job and not have to deal with drama such as this.

Also Luke provide evidance of where you say I don't join the patrol because Andrew, show the roleplay.

You have harassed me for months.
I sent the evidence to the FBI and SAPD command, and do not tolerate you and Dark having a vendetta against me.

I didn't attend the patrol you led, simple, because I was not in the mood, and you see it as a reason to claim I am somehow against SAPD?
I didn't tell me patrol partner not to join, he joined, and I went my separate way.

I haven't harassed you at all.
You just believe I do, I do not think you are that special Infernal.
You told another officer, you didn't want to attend due to the person leading it, that being Supervisory Officer Andrew Banks, I wish him to be added to witness list also.

Yes, but DarkShadowBlade has demonstrated unprofessionalism both in-game and in his own complaint against myself and InfernalCurse.

Anyway, isn't the ignorance great, I mean, senior SAPD staff who stunt at Pershing Square in state vehicles are in the complaints section moaning about other police officers, it's absolutely bliss.

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Yes, whilst I was busy dealing with a disturbance where a civilian wouldn't move off the road you were busy doing that, thank you for your contribution officer Rosso, it has helped this complaint move much further.

Let me just clarify that I am not against the SAPD, but am happy being simply an SAPD Officer left to enforce the law and keep citizens safe without told what to do by senior staff who can't seem to stay on the straight and narrow themselves.

Just to comment, that was one off, I do not do that at all, I was having a little "joke" time with Traser, yes I was on duty, but I wasn't 10-8 I was 10-7 the screenshot you have also shows no role-play evidence being gathered so I rest my case.

If I really wanted to, I could screenshot every single issue you and Monte cause between you both and you wouldn't have a leg to stand on, but I chose not to as I clearly dont have time to file complaints after complaints due to my REAL LIFE, JOB and COLLEGE.
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Re: [SAPD COMPLAINT] - Mikal, [NP]InfernalCurse
« Reply #21 on: October 22, 2014, 16:54:06 pm »
Yes, it is about time someone higher up than those complaining bring some order to this case.

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Re: [SAPD COMPLAINT] - Mikal, [NP]InfernalCurse
« Reply #22 on: October 22, 2014, 16:57:13 pm »

There are many cases where Offier Luke_Rosso is stunting at Pershing SQ.
He does not understand that it's just plain wrong, and I'm being accused of being unprofessional because I do not attend an organised patrol led by him.

Today I capture a picture from my dash cam where he is stunt or something and then an officers who is in his passenger seat dies. I also got into his car then he wrong ramped, I turned on recording as a joke and he tells me to get the f**k out, then I get out, he then stops pursuing the suspect and drives off, and I run to LSPD.

I am being victimized and bullied. It's as simple as that.
At once they say I am a good officer then they cause me pain and say stuff in the public chat like "if people want to play ball, let's play" and "if the shoe fits, lace it up".

It's turning into a war, and it's really unorganized report, we need someone to volunteer to come in to bring order, my higher ranking officers are trying to demotivate the lower ranks, they make me look bad but have not ever offered me to learn what they learned, so mistakes like sending a person  on a cycle a ticket, didn't happen.

I'm a good officer and I will like to do my job and not have to deal with drama such as this.

Go ahead and post your lovely screens.
And I will rip each one apart, you have been stalking me all day, following me around, you have also called me "corrupt" I was told by your fellow officer.
also you are not being victimized and bullied, you are the one who begins something, and then cannot finish, to then claim they are the victim, if you belive I or anyone else is being a bully feel free to report me at the email, [email protected], everything I do is within the rules, I wouldnt be a moderator, If I didn't behave properly, I have respect for both of you.
You just act like I bully you, various times, yesturday I turned my PM of as I was being called out by you "come fight me in the gym" "apologize to me" apologize for what? I feel I haven't done anything wrong.
I have people telling me day in and day out to ignore you, and I try my best, but if your trying to mess up my SAPD career your not going to do it without a fight.

Yes, it is about time someone higher up than those complaining bring some order to this case.

More than agree.

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Re: [SAPD COMPLAINT] - Mikal, [NP]InfernalCurse
« Reply #23 on: October 22, 2014, 17:03:56 pm »

There are many cases where Offier Luke_Rosso is stunting at Pershing SQ.
He does not understand that it's just plain wrong, and I'm being accused of being unprofessional because I do not attend an organised patrol led by him.

Today I capture a picture from my dash cam where he is stunt or something and then an officers who is in his passenger seat dies. I also got into his car then he wrong ramped, I turned on recording as a joke and he tells me to get the f**k out, then I get out, he then stops pursuing the suspect and drives off, and I run to LSPD.

I am being victimized and bullied. It's as simple as that.
At once they say I am a good officer then they cause me pain and say stuff in the public chat like "if people want to play ball, let's play" and "if the shoe fits, lace it up".

It's turning into a war, and it's really unorganized report, we need someone to volunteer to come in to bring order, my higher ranking officers are trying to demotivate the lower ranks, they make me look bad but have not ever offered me to learn what they learned, so mistakes like sending a person  on a cycle a ticket, didn't happen.

I'm a good officer and I will like to do my job and not have to deal with drama such as this.

Go ahead and post your lovely screens.
And I will rip each one apart, you have been stalking me all day, following me around, you have also called me "corrupt" I was told by your fellow officer.
also you are not being victimized and bullied, you are the one who begins something, and then cannot finish, to then claim they are the victim, if you belive I or anyone else is being a bully feel free to report me at the email, [email protected], everything I do is within the rules, I wouldnt be a moderator, If I didn't behave properly, I have respect for both of you.
You just act like I bully you, various times, yesturday I turned my PM of as I was being called out by you "come fight me in the gym" "apologize to me" apologize for what? I feel I haven't done anything wrong.
I have people telling me day in and day out to ignore you, and I try my best, but if your trying to mess up my SAPD career your not going to do it without a fight.

Yes, it is about time someone higher up than those complaining bring some order to this case.

More than agree.


If I try ruin your or DSB career, I don't make public report, I go to LT / SGT in confidence and talk to them, not make big show of it. They usually say if there's an issue then and there, or try ascertain the facts.

You stalked me for a day time ago told Nexus I was growing heroin on duty, and I was just looking for a briefcase left by a manager somewhere.  I said 10-7 but it didn't matter to anyone, and I was made to go at force, at gun point at one point, having to vindicate myself, and prove I wasn't doing it. This behavior which occurred, you did not apologize at all for, and I felt sad for weeks because you was stalking me and saying stuff to others about me. Today I stalked you and was going to get in your car when you stopped then patrol with you, that's all.


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Re: [SAPD COMPLAINT] - Mikal, [NP]InfernalCurse
« Reply #24 on: October 22, 2014, 17:06:21 pm »
Go ahead and post your lovely screens.
And I will rip each one apart, you have been stalking me all day, following me around, you have also called me "corrupt" I was told by your fellow officer.
also you are not being victimized and bullied, you are the one who begins something, and then cannot finish, to then claim they are the victim, if you belive I or anyone else is being a bully feel free to report me at the email, [email protected], everything I do is within the rules, I wouldnt be a moderator, If I didn't behave properly, I have respect for both of you.
You just act like I bully you, various times, yesturday I turned my PM of as I was being called out by you "come fight me in the gym" "apologize to me" apologize for what? I feel I haven't done anything wrong.
I have people telling me day in and day out to ignore you, and I try my best, but if your trying to mess up my SAPD career your not going to do it without a fight..
I'm sorry is this an SAPD complaint or a SAMP admin/mod complaint?

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Re: [SAPD COMPLAINT] - Mikal, [NP]InfernalCurse
« Reply #25 on: October 22, 2014, 17:07:40 pm »
Is this a report against Luke all of the sudden now instead of me? This is a report against. YOU (Mikal and InfernalCurse). It is a SAPD Complaint but the way you guys are acting is like you want it to be an admin complaint; don't forget that Luke is a member of the administrator team.

 Defend yourself, not blame and haze others.

Let me add on that while Luke may not view your recent posts as hazement I do and I do not appreciate you dirtying this topic with such posts.

I feel bullied by the two of you hence why I don't want to respond to your messages but here you go and once again bully another one of my friends and a member of this department. Luke cares about the SAPD and is pointing out the fact that you are at fault and is providing ways to fix this by informing you of how the SAPD works and what changes you can make to correct the atrocious behavior the two of you demonstrate while on duty not just to the department but to the server entirely. While he states that you two aren't doing anything and don't care about the SAPD should not be viewed as a provocative statement but a well articulated fact as we can conclude that the way you two act recently is not appropriate at all.

While I only put pictures of what was necessary for the report I did not go and post pictures of the two of you doing other things not related while you guys have been doing that, by posting pictures of Luke and myself and you're stating your own opinions. That's bullying and I will not submit myself to that level.

What I'm basically trying to say is that your atrocious replies that are full of blaming myself or Luke is just showing that you have no real defense for what you have done.

While what you did and this report originally may have resulted in a small cop ban, the way you act now is a sure way to be removed permanently from the server, especially when you go and bully not just a friend of mine but a member of the Administration team.

You guys are to defend yourself and provide valid mature statements instead of acting inappropriately. There are many others who would love to post on this topic stating what you guys have done and they would surely throw pictures of the way you two act all over this topic but this is not what should be done. So... Kindly stop harassing luke, stop harassing me, defend yourself for what you're being accused for.


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Re: [SAPD COMPLAINT] - Mikal, [NP]InfernalCurse
« Reply #26 on: October 22, 2014, 17:10:56 pm »
Is this a report against Luke all of the sudden now instead of me? This is a report against. YOU (Mikal and InfernalCurse). It is a SAPD Complaint but the way you guys are acting is like you want it to be an admin complaint; don't forget that Luke is a member of the administrator team.

 Defend yourself, not blame and haze others.

Let me add on that while Luke may not view your recent posts as hazement I do and I do not appreciate you dirtying this topic with such posts.

I feel bullied by the two of you hence why I don't want to respond to your messages but here you go and once again bully another one of my friends and a member of this department. Luke cares about the SAPD and is pointing out the fact that you are at fault and is providing ways to fix this by informing you of how the SAPD works and what changes you can make to correct the atrocious behavior the two of you demonstrate while on duty not just to the department but to the server entirely. While he states that you two aren't doing anything and don't care about the SAPD should not be viewed as a provocative statement but a well articulated fact as we can conclude that the way you two act recently is not appropriate at all.

While I only put pictures of what was necessary for the report I did not go and post pictures of the two of you doing other things not related while you guys have been doing that, by posting pictures of Luke and myself and you're stating your own opinions. That's bullying and I will not submit myself to that level.

What I'm basically trying to say is that your atrocious replies that are full of blaming myself or Luke is just showing that you have no real defense for what you have done.

While what you did and this report originally may have resulted in a small cop ban, the way you act now is a sure way to be removed permanently from the server, especially when you go and bully not just a friend of mine but a member of the Administration team.

You guys are to defend yourself and provide valid mature statements instead of acting inappropriately. There are many others who would love to post on this topic stating what you guys have done and they would surely throw pictures of the way you two act all over this topic but this is not what should be done. So... Kindly stop harassing luke, stop harassing me, defend yourself for what you're being accused for.

I did nothing wrong, you are trying to say that I'm bad because I helped a officer, and all you did was storm off angry.
Frank Hawk would never of come in the police car and walked on.
To use force would have seen a blood bath.

I tried to call seniors but none came, was busy. I called you and you got angry.
You, Luke, Matthew came and just went away after you was finished with what you was saying.

I do not need someone to say I'm bad, when I know they are not perfect and they need to realize that it's not just one side, if you think bad of me, I will think bad of you.

To say I am unprofessional, whilst yourselves are not professional is hypocrisy and it is wrong.

In the meeting, the SGT left and then I spoke to you casually and you said to talk later and I stopped talking about Gruia.

When I said about why I'm banned from SAPD, you said "Like you was gonna apply". Tell me that's the best thing to say.

I'm sorry if it seems you're being bullied, but I'm not a bully, and feel you're both bullying me and trying to say that I'm not professional and looking for war.
I'm a cop everyday, I am professional, with experience and understanding of the criminals I have to work with.

Frank Hawk and the Ballas is a violent characters and when I called FBI, I was hoping it would be sorted there, but instead, he came and passed it to youi, but you didn't take lead, and  I asked a SGt, and no sGt was available, so I just went with Mikal to LSPD with suspects, with gun drawn, incase.

When we got to LSPd I asked help again, and no one come but you, luke, matthew, and then you shouted and said me and Mikal was doing this or that, and all we was trying to do was ourself bring order to chaos being outnumbered, whilst no  other officers was helping.

I could have taken my batton out then and there at gs9 and beat up frank hawk, provoking a big gun fight, from all of teh ballas,  that's not what I wanted.
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Re: [SAPD COMPLAINT] - Mikal, [NP]InfernalCurse
« Reply #27 on: October 22, 2014, 17:13:41 pm »
I'm sorry is this an SAPD complaint or a SAMP admin/mod complaint?

I don't know you tell me.

You stalked me for a day time ago told Nexus I was growing heroin on duty, and I was just looking for a briefcase left by a manager somewhere.  I said 10-7 but it didn't matter to anyone, and I was made to go at force, at gun point at one point, having to vindicate myself, and prove I wasn't doing it. This behavior which occurred, you did not apologize at all for, and I felt sad for weeks because you was stalking me and saying stuff to others about me. Today I stalked you and was going to get in your car when you stopped then patrol with you, that's all.

So you claim I bully you then want to patrol with me?

I rest my case, I aint going to reply anymore, as I do not want to get in trouble to be honest, I commented to what I witnessed etc. and that's all.

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Re: [SAPD COMPLAINT] - Mikal, [NP]InfernalCurse
« Reply #28 on: October 22, 2014, 17:16:22 pm »
I did nothing wrong,
That's your opinion and you are entitled to it.

you are trying to say that I'm bad because I helped a officer, and all you did was storm off angry.
Please understand what the report is for and what I'm showing and stating as from the first post

if you think bad of me, I will think bad of you.
Ok. There are plenty of people who think bad of you Monte. Do you think bad of them? Try to understand why they think bad of you.



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Re: [SAPD COMPLAINT] - Mikal, [NP]InfernalCurse
« Reply #29 on: October 22, 2014, 17:20:34 pm »
Is this a report against Luke all of the sudden now instead of me? This is a report against. YOU (Mikal and InfernalCurse). It is a SAPD Complaint but the way you guys are acting is like you want it to be an admin complaint; don't forget that Luke is a member of the administrator team.

 Defend yourself, not blame and haze others.

Let me add on that while Luke may not view your recent posts as hazement I do and I do not appreciate you dirtying this topic with such posts.

I feel bullied by the two of you hence why I don't want to respond to your messages but here you go and once again bully another one of my friends and a member of this department. Luke cares about the SAPD and is pointing out the fact that you are at fault and is providing ways to fix this by informing you of how the SAPD works and what changes you can make to correct the atrocious behavior the two of you demonstrate while on duty not just to the department but to the server entirely. While he states that you two aren't doing anything and don't care about the SAPD should not be viewed as a provocative statement but a well articulated fact as we can conclude that the way you two act recently is not appropriate at all.

While I only put pictures of what was necessary for the report I did not go and post pictures of the two of you doing other things not related while you guys have been doing that, by posting pictures of Luke and myself and you're stating your own opinions. That's bullying and I will not submit myself to that level.

What I'm basically trying to say is that your atrocious replies that are full of blaming myself or Luke is just showing that you have no real defense for what you have done.

While what you did and this report originally may have resulted in a small cop ban, the way you act now is a sure way to be removed permanently from the server, especially when you go and bully not just a friend of mine but a member of the Administration team.

You guys are to defend yourself and provide valid mature statements instead of acting inappropriately. There are many others who would love to post on this topic stating what you guys have done and they would surely throw pictures of the way you two act all over this topic but this is not what should be done. So... Kindly stop harassing luke, stop harassing me, defend yourself for what you're being accused for.
It seems the only ability you possess it to call others bullies.

I don't know you tell me.
Well you're the one bringing being a mod into this..

Ok. There are plenty of people who think bad of you Monte. Do you think bad of them? Try to understand why they think bad of you.
Please, follow your own advice.

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Re: [SAPD COMPLAINT] - Mikal, [NP]InfernalCurse
« Reply #30 on: October 22, 2014, 17:21:01 pm »
I will now be in charge of carrying out the full investigation on this report.

First of all, if you are not directly involved with this case, do NOT post in this topic.
Second, this complaint is against officers Mikal and [NP]InfernalCurse. If you have anything against any other officer, you are free to file another complaint against those officers.

I am giving all involved parties 24 hours to post their last statements, then this will be moved to Under Investigation for final processing.

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Re: [SAPD COMPLAINT] - Mikal, [NP]InfernalCurse
« Reply #31 on: October 22, 2014, 17:43:39 pm »
I will now be in charge of carrying out the full investigation on this report.

First of all, if you are not directly involved with this case, do NOT post in this topic.
Second, this complaint is against officers Mikal and [NP]InfernalCurse. If you have anything against any other officer, you are free to file another complaint against those officers.

I am giving all involved parties 24 hours to post their last statements, then this will be moved to Under Investigation for final processing.

Lieutenant Scott 'Janar' Martinez

Ok Sir, thanks.

I don't remember it like it happened 5 mins ago, or understand the first post that much, so I will post what I think.

I tried to make the best out of the situation I was faced with.
DarkShadowBlade was on the periphery of where me and Mikal was with Frank Hawk and the Ballas, he suspected Frank Hawk without talking to us to even ask us what was the issue, when I felt that I could have handled it better.
Knowing the violent nature of the suspects, I did not use force, because I knew that they would return even heavier force, and they also was following a politic mindset, so I tried to ask to make complaints, so I tried my best to avoid a blood bath.
I contacted anyone I saw who would have experience with handling reports, and dealing with such instances, so I called FBI, FBI handed it to DSB, and DSB was angry and replied something like "seriously, Monte, FBI, this FBI that" or something, and he drived off.
Then officer Matthew came, and was watching them and said It wasn't proper way, but I legit was fearing that if I used any force I would risk causing death of officers, and that is more of an issue to me then walking a bit down the road.

Also at the time I did not have my own vehicle.
I asked repeatdily for help from seniors but none was available.

When I arrived at LSPD, I asked DarkShadowBlade to come, he came, he didn't even greet or ask what the issue was, but instead began  to get agressive over /r. I know I felt very overwhelmed by this and was trying to make the best of teh situation, I tried repeatdly to get support wiht the ammount of people, but the only one there was Mikal, who was also receiving the same sort of abuse, but instead, we didn't try to be agressive ourself, welll I know I wasn't, I just wanted to bring order to chaos.

There was a situation where Frank Hawk pulled a gun on Mikal, and I was pelading in /r for people to secure his gun, and for help, I was powerless on my own, with Mikal trying to be tough and it seemed no superior was supporting me because they felt the way the suspect was transported was wrong, and therefor did not help me in a  critical situation.

Agent was there at the time and I think he should have reacted to the situation if he felt  I was doing wrong, but I saw nothing wrong, and he didn't react.

For instances of Bullying, I am not a bully, I don't mind patrolling with everyone, but I'f I'm not in the mood, I don't and if I'm angry I try avoid certain people I know I have had conflict with, or arguments.  I myself feel I am being bullied, and do not understand what this report is about. I tell people when I do not think something is right, or someone acts wrong, maybe this is my issue, that I trust people to keep things to themself and in context and understand my viewpoint and concern.

DSB says that I go to every FBI / SGT / LT, but that's the proper way to do, it, isn't it? If there was another person, Like I reported Mikal to LT Leon, even, I don't discrimiante on who I report, if  I think they are doing wrong, and I do not see that as if it is bullying. Because I feel morality is important, and if an officer is doing stuff which doesn't seem Moral, or seems wrong, I will say it to the SGT/LT or FBI.

The concern with Balla's did not lead to a bloodbath which I personally did not want to see, so I did the best.
It maybe wasn't protocal to take the suspect on foot, but without a car, and lacking the support of fellow officers, who did not understand what actually was the plan, and what actually we did not want, I personally decided, I will go with Mikal and lead from the front,to show other officers it was code 4, and not just a suspect running from mikal.

Throughout I was hoping for help from seniors but instead I was being told I'm unprofessional, and all I did was try and I do not remember there being even a direct order to stop and use force if they was not complying, but what hapepned I didn't personally thing was too bad, because in the end it prevented the bloodbath I would predict.

Sir, I post you a link in your pm if you want of where examples of Ballas lashing out violently, with guns,  when provoked with even non lethal things like spray, or baton.

Finally NExus came after there was argument started in /r with who is professional or not, and then he stood in the corner, the other officers left, and I queitly snuck away to join the Training by Dylan where I did really good, I joined the Training of Dylan but nothing was going on after he said to get in a car, I got in with Mikal. Mikal drived off when nothing was going on. I assumed Dylan was too busy and just gave up, and I said that I will return but there was a situation at GS9.
DarkShadowBlade was at the training also I remember, but I don't understand why he followed me and Mikal there, and I think right now as I type this, that it could have been all avoided if certain officers did not think they way they did about others and tried to work with them rather than against them.

I was like to Dylan what is up with training, and when he said it was still on, I rushed there. I didn't ask for what happened, or predicted it, but I tried to make the best out of the situation. At the training  I saw the suspects all get unsusepcted, and it shows that it didn't turn into a blood baht and the situation was ebing over hyped and not being considered properly the situation I was facing. I tried my hardest to convice the civilians to get out, but they just came in too witht he suspect, I thought they would stay outside. I asked several times for support but everoyne was either unwilling or busy, those that came did not really help and I tried to do good when faced with what could be very bad for everyone.

Sir, I don't fully understand what is the report for, but I have tried to post what I think will help to make understanding for you, if you need me to explain something I will and do not hate the people above me becuase they are higher ranks.

And sir I posted my final statement first knowing people might try and see errors or try make me look bad, but I post it with best intention

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Re: [SAPD COMPLAINT] - Mikal, [NP]InfernalCurse - [S.Martinez]
« Reply #32 on: October 22, 2014, 18:11:02 pm »
Final statement from Officer Mikal.

This complaint is regarding the following accusations put forward by Senior Officer DarkShadowBlade - "Improper handling of a suspect. Harassment towards other officer."

- Improper handling of a suspect.
There was some sort of incident at Idlewood, Ballas were stood in the road and refusing to move and myself and Officer InfernalCurse were the first on scene, Snr Officer DarkShadowBlade arrived on scene third, officer InfernalCurse had fired a warning shot which Snr Officer DarkShadowBlade somehow (god knows how) mis-took to be a shot from the at the time civilian Frank_Hawk, Snr Officer DarkShadowBlade then suspected civilian Frank_Hawk for "shooting in public" or something similar, after a small stand-off where multipul Ballas surrounded us the suspected Frank_Hawk refused transport to LSPD via patrol car and insisted he walk, to avoid a shoot out with the Ballas who are known for being very hostile towards police we agree'd to let him walk and followed him to the LSPD on foot, he was NOT surrendered hence my gun aiming in the following picture provided by me:
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Upon arrival at LSPD the suspect Frank_Hawk was lead into the investigation room where his fellow Ballas/Farmer Ballas accompanied him in as 'witnesses' - They were asked to leave the room by other officers and as they refused they were also suspected, Frank_Hawk had requested a lawyer, the lawyer who turned up was Leon_Gvardia who eventually sat down and helped to calm the Ballas down so that the investigation could continue.
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Eventually after dealing with the distractive moaning and false calls for assistance over the police radio from Snr Officer DarkShadowBlade the investigation was handled and all of the Ballas were let on their way without charge due to the following reasons:
- Frank_Hawk was falsely suspected by Snr Officer DarkShadowBlade as it was infact Officer InfernalCurse who had fired a warning shot at Idlewood, as witnesses and Officer InfernalCurse had confirmed.
- Officer DarkShadowBlade failed to turn up to the LSPD to provide evidence against suspect Frank_Hawk after being requested to by myself over the radio.
- The other suspected Ballas/Farmer Ballas in the investigation room were there as witnesses, which is allowed by law.
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- Harassment towards other officer.
The following chat log was provided by Snr Officer DarkShadowBlade and is the reason why he has added "harassment towards other officer" in this complaint.
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[11:50:25] DarkShadowBlade(0) says: That is not the proper way to transport a suspect. (When I saw him leading Frank Hawk on foot with assistance from InfernalCurse while being surrounded by 3 other civilians)
[11:50:38] Mikal(13) says: What do you know about proper U0?!
To explain short and simply, I have witnessed Snr Officer DarkShadowBlade shooting at suspects without /showbadge on first hand and so this is why I replied "What do you know about proper" - I don't believe it's right to go round preaching something you don't follow yourself and that is exactly what Snr Officer DarkShadowBlade does, he tries to look innocent and plays the non-guilty party when infact he is the guilty party in many situations, such as the one provided in Officer InfernalCurse's earlier statement where Snr Officer DarkShadowBlade was traffic stopped by an officer not involved in this investigation for 'reckless driving' but just did /sb and replied with "f**k off" then stated in this very complaint topic that he thought they were joking.




It looks and feels to me that if you dare go against any senior SAPD staff more than a few of them will go against you and do anything they can to ruin your image, I know Officer InfernalCurse makes alot of complaints againt senior staff (to senior staff in-game) and it really does look to me like he is being witch hunted by more than one person, it makes me happy that I withdrew my SAPD application as this organisation is clearly far from professional and has too many senior staff doing what they please, I'm a police officer who is here to enforce the law and be there for citizens only, I do not care about organised SAPD patrols or what other officers think of me, I'd rather be a normal good police officer than anything else and be expected to suck up to senior staff in order to get promotions or people on my side.

Thank you for reading.

Signed,
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Re: [SAPD COMPLAINT] - Mikal, [NP]InfernalCurse
« Reply #33 on: October 22, 2014, 18:40:44 pm »
This portion is directed towards Monte.

I contacted anyone I saw who would have experience with handling reports, and dealing with such instances, so I called FBI, FBI handed it to DSB, and DSB was angry and replied something like "seriously, Monte, FBI, this FBI that" or something, and he drived off.
Nothing wrong with that, also how would you know I'm angry?

Also at the time I did not have my own vehicle.
I asked repeatdily for help from seniors but none was available.
That's a lie. Check the chatlogs on my first post. It has been filtered so it can show everything you said since I logged on and logged off and you never called for one. If you feel I edited your stuff out of the chatlogs, I submitted 2 parts of completely unedited chatlogs on the second and third post. I will put my word on the line as a person that I did not alter those chatlogs at all.

When I arrived at LSPD, I asked DarkShadowBlade to come, he came, he didn't even greet or ask what the issue was, but instead began  to get agressive over /r. I know I felt very overwhelmed by this and was trying to make the best of teh situation, I tried repeatdly to get support wiht the ammount of people, but the only one there was Mikal, who was also receiving the same sort of abuse, but instead, we didn't try to be agressive ourself, welll I know I wasn't, I just wanted to bring order to chaos.

There was a situation where Frank Hawk pulled a gun on Mikal, and I was pelading in /r for people to secure his gun, and for help, I was powerless on my own, with Mikal trying to be tough and it seemed no superior was supporting me because they felt the way the suspect was transported was wrong, and therefor did not help me in a  critical situation.
This proves you were indeed handling the situation incorrectly and I did not leave, I simply backed away since the way you and Mikal were handling it would've led to a bloodbath.

Agent was there at the time and I think he should have reacted to the situation if he felt  I was doing wrong, but I saw nothing wrong, and he didn't react.
If he was really there, he could've done something.

DSB says that I go to every FBI / SGT / LT, but that's the proper way to do, it, isn't it? If there was another person, Like I reported Mikal to LT Leon, even, I don't discrimiante on who I report, if  I think they are doing wrong, and I do not see that as if it is bullying. Because I feel morality is important, and if an officer is doing stuff which doesn't seem Moral, or seems wrong, I will say it to the SGT/LT or FBI.
We have a chain of command. It is Sergeant > Supervisory Sergeant > Lieutenant > Captain > Deputy Chief > Chief. FBI is not to be contacted when reporting SAPD Officers.

It maybe wasn't protocal to take the suspect on foot, but without a car, and lacking the support of fellow officers, who did not understand what actually was the plan, and what actually we did not want, I personally decided, I will go with Mikal and lead from the front,to show other officers it was code 4, and not just a suspect running from mikal.
Ok so you agree you did not follow proper procedure protocl despite me being right next to you with my car and the only reason I left was cause Mikal was harassing me (Chatlog proves this). Also having 3 suspects follow you doesn't make it any better.

Finally NExus came after there was argument started in /r with who is professional or not, and then he stood in the corner
Nexus went there as an administrator because I had reported Mikal for Cyber Harassment and Bullying. Do not bring him into the report as a roleplay wittness. Red name = No RP.

DarkShadowBlade was at the training also I remember, but I don't understand why he followed me and Mikal there, and I think right now as I type this, that it could have been all avoided if certain officers did not think they way they did about others and tried to work with them rather than against them.
That's another lie. Check my chatlogs, I left about 3 minutes after I exited LSPD. Also if you don't believe that and want to continue with those lies then please ask Luke Rosso, Matthew, Tassen, and Plam Knight. I was at an ASID Meeting on teamspeak and was not in game. Each of those members can vouch that I was not in game.


Onto a more important subject from here is, if you "remember" these things that I'm proving false, I wonder how many other things you "remember." You're ruining the credibility and validity of your report. I don't need to state any more then to point out things from your statement. My chatlogs prove a lot about what you and Mikal (Espically Mikal) have done, and my reactions are nothing to scold me for but they were humane. Obviously I wont stick around a place if someone is going to make fun of me and when I ask them if "they think they can make fun of me" and they respond with "yes" obviously I will leave. The filter was used and is used in a way that it will only remove lines that do not include names that I listed. I listed Mikal, InfernalCurse, Luke_Rosso, DSB (Me), and various people from the situation.

If you believe I've been dishonest and edited my chatlog to remove crucial info, I have a unedited chatlog on the second and third post. I once again put my word on the line that I did not touch those chatlogs other then cut them in half since it was too large to post.


This portion is directed towards Mikal.
- Improper handling of a suspect.
There was some sort of incident at Idlewood, Ballas were stood in the road and refusing to move and myself and Officer InfernalCurse were the first on scene, Snr Officer DarkShadowBlade arrived on scene third, officer InfernalCurse had fired a warning shot which Snr Officer DarkShadowBlade somehow (god knows how) mis-took to be a shot from the at the time civilian Frank_Hawk,
You think I'm going to believe that Monte shot at a civilian's car windshield? It was obviously Frank. I'm not suffering from eyesight problems.

Snr Officer DarkShadowBlade then suspected civilian Frank_Hawk for "shooting in public" or something similar, after a small stand-off where multipul Ballas surrounded us the suspected Frank_Hawk refused transport to LSPD via patrol car and insisted he walk, to avoid a shoot out with the Ballas who are known for being very hostile towards police we agree'd to let him walk and followed him to the LSPD on foot, he was NOT surrendered hence my gun aiming in the following picture provided by me:
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Ok so you break 2 regulations. One you transport a suspect improperly and disregard the arrest procedure. You did not cuff the suspect and allowed him to walk un-surrendered.

Eventually after dealing with the distractive moaning
I find that offensive. I do not moan. Please stop hurting me by attacking me like that.

- Officer DarkShadowBlade failed to turn up to the LSPD to provide evidence against suspect Frank_Hawk after being requested to by myself over the radio.
I don't remember being asked that. Check the chatlogs. You never to asked me to provide evidence. Actually Monte asked me to come in but I quickly backed off once everyone was having a standoff with firearms pointed at each other. I then followed procedure and contacted an SAPD Sergeant (Nexus) to deal with this, however you became more abusive towards me and I had to take the situation to an administrator and I told Nexus he could reach me on teamspeak as I had to attend an ASID training and I did not want to stick around LSPD where I felt bullied.

The following chat log was provided by Snr Officer DarkShadowBlade and is the reason why he has added "harassment towards other officer" in this complaint.
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[11:50:25] DarkShadowBlade(0) says: That is not the proper way to transport a suspect. (When I saw him leading Frank Hawk on foot with assistance from InfernalCurse while being surrounded by 3 other civilians)
[11:50:38] Mikal(13) says: What do you know about proper U0?!
To explain short and simply, I have witnessed Snr Officer DarkShadowBlade shooting at suspects without /showbadge on first hand and so this is why I replied "What do you know about proper" - I don't believe it's right to go round preaching something you don't follow yourself and that is exactly what Snr Officer DarkShadowBlade does, he tries to look innocent and plays the non-guilty party when infact he is the guilty party in many situations, such as the one provided in Officer InfernalCurse's earlier statement where Snr Officer DarkShadowBlade was traffic stopped by an officer not involved in this investigation for 'reckless driving' but just did /sb and replied with "f**k off" then stated in this very complaint topic that he thought they were joking.
1.
Second, this complaint is against officers Mikal and [NP]InfernalCurse. If you have anything against any other officer, you are free to file another complaint against those officers.
2. Stop harassing me with that topic as I had explained before that it was dealt with privately and seperatly. You are in no right to bring that up and judge me on it.

I do not care about organised SAPD patrols
Then you do not belong here if that's how you feel.

this organisation is clearly far from professional and has too many senior staff doing what they please,

That is your opininon and you are entitled to it.

I'd rather be a normal good police officer than anything else and be expected to suck up to senior staff in order to get promotions or people on my side.
The way you write that makes it appear that you have an obvious stereotype about this department if you care to insult it like that. Please look up what a Hate Crime is since you are actively doing that and try rephrasing as you are insulting multiple members of the department by posting that.


I don't need to post about the regulations you broke to an extensive detail but just quote your statements and put comments on disagreeing with them while providing facts or valid opinions. The chatlog I provided in the first post that has filtered everyone's name who is not involved will prove of what you've done. The unedited chatlogs are there as a courtesy and proof that I did not deliberetly take out things you or Monte said. I did this so I could prove that you never said what you are stating you said (If that doesnt make sense it means: The chatlog is there to prove that some of the things you're claiming you said is invalid and false).

Aside this I will ask or await for either Plam Knight, Matthew, Luke Rosso, or Tassen to post here stating I was indeed at that ASID Meeting meaning I could not have been at the Training as Monte claims I was. You may also contact Nexus Riggs as I told him after the in game report I made against Mikal that I had a ASID Meeting to go to on teamspeak and he could reach me there, if necessary.



- With respect, DSB


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Re: [SAPD COMPLAINT] - Mikal, [NP]InfernalCurse - [S.Martinez]
« Reply #34 on: October 22, 2014, 18:46:02 pm »
I can confirm, DarkShadowBlade did not attend the training and was infact not even ingame at that point, he was last seen with Me in the meeting room spectating the investigation with Mikal and Frank, and then he decided to leave the server and go to our meeting what was held off the sever and was held on Teamspeak.

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Re: [SAPD COMPLAINT] - Mikal, [NP]InfernalCurse - [S.Martinez]
« Reply #35 on: October 22, 2014, 18:55:50 pm »
I have witnessed the situation about Frank Hawk.
Officer Monte and Mikal have indeed had a cruiser there but they rather decided to walk him to the LSPD with few of his mates around him, all armed and then there's Mikal whole time aiming with sawn-off shotgun.
Honestly, it looked like circus.. the suspect was not cuffed, other civilians which were armed and later started "riot" in LSPD were not asked to leave and they just kept walking like that to LSPD.
Safety of other civilians who were not involved into the actual situation was not ensured. As the suspect was not cuffed, he could run away anytime. His mates could hostage officer Mikal and Monte anytime.
They came to LSPD and have started investigation, the investigation room had over 4 civilians in there and plus the actual suspect.
Officer Mikal has told us in radio that they had everything under control and that they don't need any backup from higher ranks.
Few minutes later it escalates and officer Monte requests higher ranks because those ballas with the suspect started, let's say "rioting" and showing their guns around in the investigation room.
I then took over part of investigation and had to leave few mins later due to ASID meeting that was held, I contacted Nexus and asked him if he can continue the investigation but as he was busy, I asked in /r for another higher rank to continue it.

All in all, Officer Monte and Mikal have not ensured safety of other civilians which were not involved into the situation.
They also endangered lives of other officers who came and were unaware of what's going on.
   
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Re: [SAPD COMPLAINT] - Mikal, [NP]InfernalCurse
« Reply #36 on: October 22, 2014, 19:04:27 pm »
Ok so you break 2 regulations. One you transport a suspect improperly and disregard the arrest procedure. You did not cuff the suspect and allowed him to walk un-surrendered.
It kept the peace, and as a police officer that is what I am here to do.

I find that offensive. I do not moan. Please stop hurting me by attacking me like that.
I laughed, do you take everything offensive?

The following chat log was provided by Snr Officer DarkShadowBlade and is the reason why he has added "harassment towards other officer" in this complaint.
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[11:50:25] DarkShadowBlade(0) says: That is not the proper way to transport a suspect. (When I saw him leading Frank Hawk on foot with assistance from InfernalCurse while being surrounded by 3 other civilians)
[11:50:38] Mikal(13) says: What do you know about proper U0?!
To explain short and simply, I have witnessed Snr Officer DarkShadowBlade shooting at suspects without /showbadge on first hand and so this is why I replied "What do you know about proper" - I don't believe it's right to go round preaching something you don't follow yourself and that is exactly what Snr Officer DarkShadowBlade does, he tries to look innocent and plays the non-guilty party when infact he is the guilty party in many situations, such as the one provided in Officer InfernalCurse's earlier statement where Snr Officer DarkShadowBlade was traffic stopped by an officer not involved in this investigation for 'reckless driving' but just did /sb and replied with "f**k off" then stated in this very complaint topic that he thought they were joking.
1.
Second, this complaint is against officers Mikal and [NP]InfernalCurse. If you have anything against any other officer, you are free to file another complaint against those officers.
It has everything to do with this complaint, I am explaining why I said what I did to you, wake up please.

2. Stop harassing me with that topic as I had explained before that it was dealt with privately and seperatly. You are in no right to bring that up and judge me on it.
Ok, we've just about clarified that you take everything as offensive.

I do not care about organised SAPD patrols
Then you do not belong here if that's how you feel.
Who are you to say that? I'm here for the citizens, not the police.

I'd rather be a normal good police officer than anything else and be expected to suck up to senior staff in order to get promotions or people on my side.
The way you write that makes it appear that you have an obvious stereotype about this department if you care to insult it like that. Please look up what a Hate Crime is since you are actively doing that and try rephrasing as you are insulting multiple members of the department by posting that.
It's my opinion which I am entitled too, as you have said yourself.

I don't need to post about the regulations you broke to an extensive detail but just quote your statements and put comments on disagreeing with them while providing facts or valid opinions. The chatlog I provided in the first post that has filtered everyone's name who is not involved will prove of what you've done. The unedited chatlogs are there as a courtesy and proof that I did not deliberetly take out things you or Monte said. I did this so I could prove that you never said what you are stating you said (If that doesnt make sense it means: The chatlog is there to prove that some of the things you're claiming you said is invalid and false).
What have I said I said that I did not say?

1. Officer Monte and Mikal have indeed had a cruiser there but they rather decided to walk him to the LSPD with few of his mates around him, all armed and then there's Mikal whole time aiming with sawn-off shotgun.
2. Honestly, it looked like circus.. the suspect was not cuffed, other civilians which were armed and later started "riot" in LSPD were not asked to leave and they just kept walking like that to LSPD.
3. Safety of other civilians who were not involved into the actual situation was not ensured. As the suspect was not cuffed, he could run away anytime. His mates could hostage officer Mikal and Monte anytime.
4. They came to LSPD and have started investigation, the investigation room had over 4 civilians in there and plus the actual suspect.
5. Officer Mikal has told us in radio that they had everything under control and that they don't need any backup from higher ranks.
6. Few minutes later it escalates and officer Monte requests higher ranks because those ballas with the suspect started, let's say "rioting" and showing their guns around in the investigation room.
7. I then took over part of investigation and had to leave few mins later due to ASID meeting that was held, I contacted Nexus and asked him if he can continue the investigation but as he was busy, I asked in /r for another higher rank to continue it.
1. When did I say that I didn't have a cruiser? I walked the ballas to the LSPD to avoid a shootout, they didn't want to go by car.
2. There was no riot in the LSPD, you are now talking nonsense.
3. The only citizens round were the ones that WANTED TO BE THERE AS WITNESSES.
4. The civilians WANTED TO BE THERE AS WITNESSES.
5. Everything was under control, except for Snr Officer DarkShadowBlade lying over the police radio saying it wasn't.
6. Complete and utter lie, Monte called backup then left himself because it was under control, no guns were out as I had requested their lawyer to control them and he did.
7. You didn't take over any of the investigation, there was a few interruptions by other officers (one of them was you) but other than that I did the whole investigation and got them all unsuspected, Nexus Riggs watched pretty much the WHOLE THING so he should be able to confirm who did what.

Thank you for your false statements in an investigation officer Matthew, you have really helped.

I'll refer back to my quote:
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Re: [SAPD COMPLAINT] - Mikal, [NP]InfernalCurse - [S.Martinez]
« Reply #37 on: October 22, 2014, 19:10:54 pm »
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Re: [SAPD COMPLAINT] - Mikal, [NP]InfernalCurse
« Reply #38 on: October 22, 2014, 19:25:04 pm »
Ok so you break 2 regulations. One you transport a suspect improperly and disregard the arrest procedure. You did not cuff the suspect and allowed him to walk un-surrendered.
It kept the peace, and as a police officer that is what I am here to do.
It was done improperly

I find that offensive. I do not moan. Please stop hurting me by attacking me like that.
I laughed, do you take everything offensive?
When you attack me by posting hurtful comments, yes.

The following chat log was provided by Snr Officer DarkShadowBlade and is the reason why he has added "harassment towards other officer" in this complaint.
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[11:50:25] DarkShadowBlade(0) says: That is not the proper way to transport a suspect. (When I saw him leading Frank Hawk on foot with assistance from InfernalCurse while being surrounded by 3 other civilians)
[11:50:38] Mikal(13) says: What do you know about proper U0?!
To explain short and simply, I have witnessed Snr Officer DarkShadowBlade shooting at suspects without /showbadge on first hand and so this is why I replied "What do you know about proper" - I don't believe it's right to go round preaching something you don't follow yourself and that is exactly what Snr Officer DarkShadowBlade does, he tries to look innocent and plays the non-guilty party when infact he is the guilty party in many situations, such as the one provided in Officer InfernalCurse's earlier statement where Snr Officer DarkShadowBlade was traffic stopped by an officer not involved in this investigation for 'reckless driving' but just did /sb and replied with "f**k off" then stated in this very complaint topic that he thought they were joking.
1.
Second, this complaint is against officers Mikal and [NP]InfernalCurse. If you have anything against any other officer, you are free to file another complaint against those officers.
It has everything to do with this complaint, I am explaining why I said what I did to you, wake up please.

2. Stop harassing me with that topic as I had explained before that it was dealt with privately and seperatly. You are in no right to bring that up and judge me on it.
Ok, we've just about clarified that you take everything as offensive.
Maybe you should understand what I put there. I feel hurt by the things you write. I feel attacked and harassed by you and you continuously do it even though I've told you to stop numerous times.

I do not care about organised SAPD patrols
Then you do not belong here if that's how you feel.
Who are you to say that? I'm here for the citizens, not the police.
I'm just simply passing on reasonable advice. By disrespecting the department, you are disrespecting citizens and misrepresenting the department. This in turn causes you to disrespect the community. You've already disrespected me and some of my friends. I don't want to see more people have to be saddened with attacks like that. It's very depressing.

I don't need to post about the regulations you broke to an extensive detail but just quote your statements and put comments on disagreeing with them while providing facts or valid opinions. The chatlog I provided in the first post that has filtered everyone's name who is not involved will prove of what you've done. The unedited chatlogs are there as a courtesy and proof that I did not deliberetly take out things you or Monte said. I did this so I could prove that you never said what you are stating you said (If that doesnt make sense it means: The chatlog is there to prove that some of the things you're claiming you said is invalid and false).
What have I said I said that I did not say?
- Officer DarkShadowBlade failed to turn up to the LSPD to provide evidence against suspect Frank_Hawk after being requested to by myself over the radio.
You never asked me this.


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Re: [SAPD COMPLAINT] - Mikal, [NP]InfernalCurse
« Reply #39 on: October 22, 2014, 19:42:20 pm »
It was done improperly
It was done in a way that stopped a shootout, I'd say that is properly, sometimes you need to improvise.

When you attack me by posting hurtful comments, yes.
There's a big difference between being hateful and being realistic.

Maybe you should understand what I put there. I feel hurt by the things you write. I feel attacked and harassed by you and you continuously do it even though I've told you to stop numerous times.
Yes we get it, I'm a giant bully that wants to make you cry..

I'm just simply passing on reasonable advice. By disrespecting the department, you are disrespecting citizens and misrepresenting the department. This in turn causes you to disrespect the community. You've already disrespected me and some of my friends. I don't want to see more people have to be saddened with attacks like that. It's very depressing.
In my eyes I represent the SAPD how it actually should be, a force for peace, not a force for shooting at every orange man that comes about.

- Officer DarkShadowBlade failed to turn up to the LSPD to provide evidence against suspect Frank_Hawk after being requested to by myself over the radio.
You never asked me this.
Yes, on /r I asked you to come to the LSPD to provide evidence, you did not come.

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