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Author Topic: General Problem im having with cops...not all...some  (Read 11140 times)

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Offline SKenney

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Re: General Problem im having with cops...not all...some
« Reply #40 on: April 02, 2010, 01:04:56 am »
Thats what im trying to say
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Offline ElMartu

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Re: General Problem im having with cops...not all...some
« Reply #41 on: April 02, 2010, 05:01:21 am »
Umm, not really? In real life, that would be impossible. Also, that is not how the escape system works, and we definitely don't want to add to the people that already cophunt instead of roleplay. This is not a DM server, it's a RP server. The idea for suspects and criminals is to escape, not sit around and wait for cops so they can blow their heads off.

Yes, that's right, but after a criminal reaches gets his runhowlong count to 25 minutes or above, he'll think "f**k it" and go on a killing spree before dying. You know, it makes the game more fun than running from cops for over an hour.

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Re: General Problem im having with cops...not all...some
« Reply #42 on: April 02, 2010, 07:03:26 am »
After new vehicle scripts, chases became more thrilling for criminals.
Because fast cars is kinda cheap, making an advantage for criminals

This is the major reason why i agree this new vehicle script, because criminals gets new advantages to run, instead of deathmatching places.. yet, the different is not really seen that much.

Anyways, prank calling 911 is considered script abuse, By CBF.

Cops should patrol together or keep good communication if alone, in order to take down suspect waves, it's a question of tactics, if you rambo the suspects while out numbered in guns question or amount, you'll probably die, the best is take cover all times, if you can, rush in if he's running or has a low health or weak firearms.

about cophunt, it is unfortunately a player misconception about defending from cops, and deathmatching.
When you put your sirens on and chase the suspect, you're trying to get him, criminals may return fire,  but if cop is running away or not showing any threat to criminals, they have no rights to shoot him down.

Criminal is based on defense... against cops, they main role is escape from cops, not launch uber deathmatching zones and "kill all cops in state" ( it is impossible, because cops return after death)

:ps: 2 am here, if i said any bullshit, you can correct me, i'm pretty sleepy.

Offline Alan Demarest

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Re: General Problem im having with cops...not all...some
« Reply #43 on: April 02, 2010, 13:42:06 pm »
If a cop decides to engage me when I'm a suspect, and he decides to run because he knows he wont survivea shootout with me, I'll chase him down. That aint cophunting, he attacked me first, I'm just sealing the deal.

If I however go to LSPD as a suspect and start shooting every cop I see, without them shooting me first, that is cophunting.

Offline Wayne

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Re: General Problem im having with cops...not all...some
« Reply #44 on: April 02, 2010, 15:50:21 pm »
If a cop decides to engage me when I'm a suspect, and he decides to run because he knows he wont survivea shootout with me, I'll chase him down. That aint cophunting, he attacked me first, I'm just sealing the deal.
That depends
if he is running on foot, you can chase him down..
if he is too far away with cars, you can't.
because if you kill him he will return anyways.
if you avoid killing him when he's in a car, you'll gain more time, because he will spend a shitload of time by healing and re-dutying, when he's spawning, he'll prolly spawn closer to a PD, so all he has to do is get on duty then find you.

it's considered cophunting chasing a down a cop which is running in a vehicle, unless he has hitman contracts.

Offline Oliver Daniels

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Re: General Problem im having with cops...not all...some
« Reply #45 on: April 02, 2010, 15:59:09 pm »
Anyways, prank calling 911 is considered script abuse, By CBF.

And not by Gimli or Frank Hawk, the SAMP server leaders.

but if cop is running away or not showing any threat to criminals, they have no rights to shoot him down.

I'm sorry, but if a cop attacks me and tries to escape, I will chase him down and mercilessly kill him, no matter how far he escapes.

Offline Wayne

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Re: General Problem im having with cops...not all...some
« Reply #46 on: April 02, 2010, 16:04:11 pm »
And not by Gimli or Frank Hawk, the SAMP server leaders.
Atm they did not told anything about it, so i do think they do accept this way.
It has been approved by CBF, he's our Server leader, don't you trust him?
I'm sorry, but if a cop attacks me and tries to escape, I will chase him down and mercilessly kill him.
If he's on foot you can kill him.. if he's escaping via vehicle and is kinda far from you, you can't, otherwise, it is cophunt.

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Re: General Problem im having with cops...not all...some
« Reply #47 on: April 02, 2010, 18:25:57 pm »
If he's on foot you can kill him.. if he's escaping via vehicle and is kinda far from you, you can't, otherwise, it is cophunt.

That means I'm a cophunter.

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Re: General Problem im having with cops...not all...some
« Reply #48 on: April 02, 2010, 18:30:27 pm »
That means I'm a cophunter.
if you have done and do this, yes.  :ban:

Offline [Rstar]Vince

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Re: General Problem im having with cops...not all...some
« Reply #49 on: April 02, 2010, 20:15:48 pm »
If a cop shoots at you, then tries to run away you have all the right to chase after him and kill him... Cophunting is described as when YOU hunt the cop, and go after him/her first... Whether they are running away in a car or not.


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Re: General Problem im having with cops...not all...some
« Reply #50 on: April 02, 2010, 21:22:14 pm »
The idea for suspects and criminals is to escape, not sit around and wait for cops so they can blow their heads off.

I'm afraid that we disagree.

Yes, that's right, but after a criminal reaches gets his runhowlong count to 25 minutes or above, he'll think "f**k it" and go on a killing spree before dying. You know, it makes the game more fun than running from cops for over an hour.

QFT on this.

This is the major reason why i agree this new vehicle script, because criminals gets new advantages to run, instead of deathmatching places.. yet, the different is not really seen that much.

The new car scripts make it harder for criminals to escape, by quite a significant margin. If you blow up your car, you're basically stranded unless you can lagrun all the way back to your car.

If a cop shoots at you, then tries to run away you have all the right to chase after him and kill him... Cophunting is described as when YOU hunt the cop, and go after him/her first... Whether they are running away in a car or not.

Holy shit guys, you heard it here first.
Will alter tactics accordingly. :war:
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Re: General Problem im having with cops...not all...some
« Reply #51 on: April 13, 2010, 11:26:10 am »
Honestly I always use /s2 /s3 and sometimes even /s1 to give them a chance to surrender - even when they've opened fire sometimes. But when some people are honestly crazy DMers it's hard to find time to type these 3 letters/symbols before the space you are occupying simulteanously becomes occupied by a trillion bullets; and your limbs are replaced with lead.
Slow is smooth, smooth is fast and fast is lethal.

Offline Chief J. Schappell

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Re: General Problem im having with cops...not all...some
« Reply #52 on: April 14, 2010, 00:25:03 am »
Umm, not really? In real life, that would be impossible. Also, that is not how the escape system works, and we definitely don't want to add to the people that already cophunt instead of roleplay. This is not a DM server, it's a RP server. The idea for suspects and criminals is to escape, not sit around and wait for cops so they can blow their heads off.

Yes, that's right, but after a criminal reaches gets his runhowlong count to 25 minutes or above, he'll think "f**k it" and go on a killing spree before dying. You know, it makes the game more fun than running from cops for over an hour.
Regardless, the rules are the way they are for a reason. If they want to spice things up, there are plenty of RP ways to do so, even in that fashion...but it takes the RP to do it. That is something they are refusing to do.

Offline Alan Demarest

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Re: General Problem im having with cops...not all...some
« Reply #53 on: April 14, 2010, 08:23:44 am »
Sugar, if we want to fight cops, there is not a god damn thing you can do, except for avoiding us completely.

There is no rule that says we HAVE to escape, it's an alternative to fighting or going to jail.


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Re: General Problem im having with cops...not all...some
« Reply #54 on: April 14, 2010, 08:43:21 am »
Sugar, if we want to fight cops, there is not a god damn thing you can do, except for avoiding us completely.

There is no rule that says we HAVE to escape, it's an alternative to fighting or going to jail.


Actually that is not necessarily true. There's a reason why cophunting isn't allowed. ;)
By the way:
1. Not referring to the getting caught part (ie. going to jail).
2. Fighting can be done, but it needs to be done in the RP fashion or it's DM/cophunting, hence my point above still makes sense. No one said you guys couldn't fight back, but you aren't supposed to just go around shooting at cops that are nearby either unless you are trying to get away from them.

Offline Alan Demarest

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Re: General Problem im having with cops...not all...some
« Reply #55 on: April 14, 2010, 09:17:37 am »
It's not cophunting if the cop turns his sirens on, blocks you or shoots you when you are a suspect  ;)

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Re: General Problem im having with cops...not all...some
« Reply #56 on: April 14, 2010, 21:49:13 pm »
It's not cophunting if the cop turns his sirens on, blocks you or shoots you when you are a suspect  ;)
Exactly, which is NOT what I'm referring to. I'm referring to when a cop is nearby, minding his own business, and a criminal comes out of nowhere and shoots him in the back.

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Re: General Problem im having with cops...not all...some
« Reply #57 on: April 21, 2010, 07:52:59 am »
True Sugar, a lot of criminals purposely go towards the police to shoot 'em up though. Alan, if you were a criminial IRL then you wouldn't just rush towards every cop, you would try to escape unless you were crazy (RP).
Slow is smooth, smooth is fast and fast is lethal.

Offline Alan Demarest

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Re: General Problem im having with cops...not all...some
« Reply #58 on: April 21, 2010, 09:45:23 am »
Dont pull that IRL shit on me.

This is GRAND THEFT AUTO, not real life.

Offline J. Prilo

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Re: General Problem im having with cops...not all...some
« Reply #59 on: April 21, 2010, 14:49:34 pm »
Prank calling 911 is now script abuse? lol.
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