Argonath RPG Police Department
General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Shawn Edwards on July 10, 2009, 21:57:07 pm
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I am opening up a General discussion about Full police officers being in known gangs. I don't think that its right or fair for known gang members/drug dealers to be full police officers in the SAPD/ARPD. Its not fair for them to bust someone with drugs on duty, and then turn around and go off duty and sell the drugs they confiscated as a gang member. If they are a drug dealer in a gang, they would already have drugs on them. So when they do drug busts and receive the drugs, they can easily get the drugs mixed up and not following the proper procedure in getting them destroyed. A topic like this should be under discussion so I am bringing it to the table. My solution is to allow gang members to be Free cops and Cadets with normal rights whereas they can't frisk people for drugs. When you look in the application section of the forums, you see more and more known gang members applying for the ARPD. They should either choose their gang, or being a Full Police Officer with the ARPD. As I stated this is not fair nor is it right. Topic Open for discussion. :cop:
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you are right about that, and it used to be Sgt+,
but the thing is that its 2 different RP characters
they RP mafia/gang off duty, and when on duty they are real cops
but if someone gets caught on duty helping gang, taking drugs,
giving information through,
then he is corrupt and should be arrested
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you are right about that, and it used to be Sgt+,
but the thing is that its 2 different RP characters
they RP mafia/gang off duty, and when on duty they are real cops
but if someone gets caught on duty helping gang, taking drugs,
giving information through,
then he is corrupt and should be arrested
Yes its 2 different RP characters but its not fair that they get free drugs by /frisk and other people have to take the time to spend money and buy seeds, then grow them and risks chances of getting caught and getting their seeds token. Thats the point I'm getting at.
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I think disallowing gang members to join the ARPD would ensure a better quality of the department. But Argonath is based on a freedom of roleplay, meaning the objective of the comunity isn't to prohibit possibilities for some people (in this case, sometimes it happens for everyone), but to create them. That means, mafia members should be able to roleplay a police officer when they wish.
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I think disallowing gang members to join the ARPD would ensure a better quality of the department. But Argonath is based on a freedom of roleplay, meaning the objective of the comunity isn't to prohibit possibilities for some people (in this case, sometimes it happens for everyone), but to create them. That means, mafia members should be able to roleplay a police officer when they wish.
Yes I respect that. But can something be done about the drug issue. Like not having the same drug inventory while on/off duty so that Mafia members wont have a disadvantage.
:ps: Thanks for the Comments Guys!! Keep this Discussion going!!
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Fact is Lieutenant above has restrictions, below there is non, this will NOT change, what is the point of discussing something when it will make no differance at all
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you are right about that, and it used to be Sgt+,
but the thing is that its 2 different RP characters
they RP mafia/gang off duty, and when on duty they are real cops
but if someone gets caught on duty helping gang, taking drugs,
giving information through,
then he is corrupt and should be arrested
Bian you full right. There don't need a guy that joined a mafia and joined the ARPD. Officer+ don't allowed to join a gang, simpely....
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you are right about that, and it used to be Sgt+,
but the thing is that its 2 different RP characters
they RP mafia/gang off duty, and when on duty they are real cops
but if someone gets caught on duty helping gang, taking drugs,
giving information through,
then he is corrupt and should be arrested
Bian you full right. There don't need a guy that joined a mafia and joined the ARPD. Officer+ don't allowed to join a gang, simpely....
Yeh he is right.
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That would take away alot of the current officers we have though. Also i thought if you were a cop and you confiscate drugs..you have to give it to a higher rank to destroy or do you keep it?
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That would take away alot of the current officers we have though. Also i thought if you were a cop and you confiscate drugs..you have to give it to a higher rank to destroy or do you keep it?
Give it to the chief or any high ranked unit available, of course.
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Confiscated drugs have to be given to Captain and above.
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Confiscated drugs have to be given to Captain and above.
:gandalf: All you guys are missing the whole point of this topic. I'm not asking to dis allow gang members to be on the police force. Yes when we /frisk and finds drugs, we are suppose to give it to the higher ranked to get destroyed. But who is to say that everyone gives there drugs over to be destroyed?? How can we be sure that everyone hands those drugs over? Can we get a system that will help out or do we already have one? My concern is the officers keeping the drugs and not turning them over but instead selling them. Its time to stop thinking inside the box or even outside the box. We have to realize there is no box. All officers are not turning over there drugs which is NOT right. That's all I am saying.
For Example: Officer John Doe (Pretend that Doe is a Mafia Tag) /frisk his suspect before jailing him. Officer John Doe then confiscates the drugs from his suspect. He is the only one in the PD that knew the suspect had drugs and there was no one around. (Who is to say that at that point, Officer John Doe gets the drugs destroys). Officer John Doe then keeps the drugs instead of getting them destroyed. He then goes off duty later as a civilian and then meets up with Gang Doe to do some drugs. Officer John Doe still have the drugs he confiscated in his /invent (Inventory) So he then takes the drugs he got from police duty and sells them to make profit? Is this wrong? Can there be a system made to insure this wont happen? Or this can happen and no one really gives a flip about it and Officer John Doe can do what he wants with the drugs?
This is what I am saying. Not banning Gang members from becoming apart of ARPD. I would rather see them helping us cops fighting crimes instead of camping there HQs and shooting at us cops. Lets be real here. What can be done so that a scenario like Officer John Doe does not or is not happening??
That would take away alot of the current officers we have though. Also i thought if you were a cop and you confiscate drugs..you have to give it to a higher rank to destroy or do you keep it?
Yes you do but how do we know everyone is doing this, or is this of no concern? I see that this topic has never been brought up.
Fact is Lieutenant above has restrictions, below there is non, this will NOT change, what is the point of discussing something when it will make no differance at all
What do you mean it will make no difference*?? Police Officers selling drugs to their gang members or other drug dealers?
You all missed my point
Its not fair for them to bust someone with drugs on duty, and then turn around and go off duty and sell the drugs they confiscated as a gang member.
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Sadly, real life hurts from this same exact scenario. It can be viewed as using the banhammer on corrupt officers for abusing the system, or it could be roleplayed and deal with them accordingly (investigation).
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you are right about that, and it used to be Sgt+,
but the thing is that its 2 different RP characters
they RP mafia/gang off duty, and when on duty they are real cops
but if someone gets caught on duty helping gang, taking drugs,
giving information through,
then he is corrupt and should be arrested
Yes its 2 different RP characters but its not fair that they get free drugs by /frisk and other people have to take the time to spend money and buy seeds, then grow them and risks chances of getting caught and getting their seeds token. Thats the point I'm getting at.
i know, but as i said above, we should be watching them,
let them give drugs to captain, and if not online to to highest that is online,
if they keep the drugs for if they go of duty, means they are corrupt,
and its our work to find them, investigate the own members,
and if we find them, full investigation to leaders,
and they can get punished
this makes a new RP possibility
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What is not also clear is, we can actually SUSPECT COPS, so this sort of RP is actually ALLOWED..
Yes it takes a higher rank to suspect but we can do it, and that ability is there to allow corrupt cops..
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Well, I'm sure everyone should be allowed to roleplay different characters without loosing a hard earned rank in the SAPD, no?
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What is not also clear is, we can actually SUSPECT COPS, so this sort of RP is actually ALLOWED..
Yes it takes a higher rank to suspect but we can do it, and that ability is there to allow corrupt cops..
Yes I am aware of that but I have failed to have seen this done. So basically I am saying, we are not doing our jobs to catch these people and w should get on the good foot. I am asking now how can we catch them. From m knowledge, no one has been caught, so what will change now? Can we put together operations of teams? I would like to catch the corrupt cops but we need a plan. We can start investigations and etc. As I said, we needed to bring this topic to the table and I am glad I did. Now that I know we can do something about it, I wanna get to work on this. But a question that really cantbe answered is how can we tell if the Officer off duty (New LIfe Off Duty) Grew the drugs he is selling or using confiscated ones? You really Cant so there is no way to catch corrupt officers. I am not saying they will sell them on duty. Im stating that they will sell them off duty and there is no clear evidence to see if they are the drugs themselves, or confiscated them from someone. Only log checks could answer this and I know you don't wanna get into that.
Well, I'm sure everyone should be allowed to roleplay different characters without loosing a hard earned rank in the SAPD, no?
Shhhhhh did you just skip over everything above ^^^?? Refer to above posts. Your comment has already been answered and I have already entertained it.
:ps: Thanks everyone for the comments and feedback. This topic is still Open for discussion.
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What is not also clear is, we can actually SUSPECT COPS, so this sort of RP is actually ALLOWED..
Yes it takes a higher rank to suspect but we can do it, and that ability is there to allow corrupt cops..
You say that switching to off duty is allowed, and to take the drugs they found is allowed... why?
Basically what people are doing is switching lives, and taking their confiscated drugs with them. So pretty much you can't do anything with them after that point.
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What is not also clear is, we can actually SUSPECT COPS, so this sort of RP is actually ALLOWED..
Yes it takes a higher rank to suspect but we can do it, and that ability is there to allow corrupt cops..
I understand where you are coming from. It would be a little RP in this because we do have Corrupt cops in real life so we may have them in Argonath. Its our job to go out and find them and investigate the situation. I am willing to put a team together to go out and do little investigations. (No a Police Division, Just a little team) I know many of you say, but we have NARC or however you spell it but I am not trying to take or do anyone's job. I just want to get to work and investigate corrupt cops.
I don't want to Lock this topic just yet. Its still open up for discussion.
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What is not also clear is, we can actually SUSPECT COPS, so this sort of RP is actually ALLOWED..
Yes it takes a higher rank to suspect but we can do it, and that ability is there to allow corrupt cops..
You say that switching to off duty is allowed, and to take the drugs they found is allowed... why?
Basically what people are doing is switching lives, and taking their confiscated drugs with them. So pretty much you can't do anything with them after that point.
That is what I was thinking but they are not encouraging people to do it, but basically Yes, you can do this on your own will and take your own risk of getting caught and fired from the SAPD/ARPD They can suspect you so will will have the lasting shame of riding in the back of a cop car as a officer and placed in the jails.
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What is not also clear is, we can actually SUSPECT COPS, so this sort of RP is actually ALLOWED..
Yes it takes a higher rank to suspect but we can do it, and that ability is there to allow corrupt cops..
So is it allowed to RP corrupt if other people agree with the RP without any serious consequences?
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I think disallowing gang members to join the ARPD would ensure a better quality of the department.
Wrong, were you here when that idiot Luca_Scalise f**ked the SAPD up?
He didn't allow gangmembers in, and the SAPD was total pile of crap then.
Now that there are gangmembers in, its just a lot better.
I have been in the ARPD for over 2 years. I should still be allowed to run Araatus if I wish, I shouldn't have to pick between the two. When I get pissed off with being spat on as a 'rulebreaking criminal scum', I switch to cop for free stuff and simple orange hunting (ok, maybe its a little more than that :lol:).
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Well... Why isn't there a /confiscate command (or something) and it makes the drugs disappear at once? This way it will never happen :)
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Lol do you think right now the ARPD is good?
Well... Why isn't there a /confiscate command (or something) and it makes the drugs disappear at once? This way it will never happen :)
Chiefs have /destroyweed or some fancy command like that. Give the drugs to them.
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Well... Why isn't there a /confiscate command (or something) and it makes the drugs disappear at once? This way it will never happen :)
Chiefs have /destroyweed or some fancy command like that. Give the drugs to them.
That's what this topic about. The people who don't do this and sell the drugs off duty :hit:
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I don't think a command like what you proposed will solve the problem.
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the ARPD doesnt got more quality because of members in the Mafia Panda,
look at the high cop rankings, you will not/rarely find a gang member there,
gang members get stucked around officer/senior officer
but not allowing gang members goes a bit far,
but if they get caught dealing the drugs to there own gang,
they can get kicked from ARPD because of being corrupt
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Actualy, They CAN sell drugs off duty. But its against law, so cops who keep drugs to theirselves are corrupt cops and FBI should deal with them.
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the ARPD doesnt got more quality because of members in the Mafia Panda,
Then please explain why the SAPD became totally retarded when Luca Scalise made that rule?
Without Mafia/Gang members, your only decent fighting squad is SWAT. Want to deploy SWAT 24/7?
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so your saying that all except SWAT sucks?
so i suck, and a lot more with me who suck
SWAT is indeed a great group, most of them at least, and being in SWAT is indeed a great honour
but they arent the only who can fight a bit
and i wasnt here with lucas, but if all gang members would leave SAPD now,
then SAPD wouldnt lose much quality
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Well... Why isn't there a /confiscate command (or something) and it makes the drugs disappear at once? This way it will never happen :)
Exactly! This is the best reply I have seen so far with staying on the topic of my concern
Lol do you think right now the ARPD is good?
Well... Why isn't there a /confiscate command (or something) and it makes the drugs disappear at once? This way it will never happen :)
Chiefs have /destroyweed or some fancy command like that. Give the drugs to them.
Dude you just do not get it. We know the drugs can be destroyed. I give my drugs over to the high ranks. What about the Officers who doesn't? How do you know everyone is handing them over? Not trying to bring other things into this topic, just like all the regulars who got caught abusing the weapon scripts and budgs, I believe regulars are abusing cop powers by being able to frisk for drugs and then turn around and sell them. My concern is that Officers are not handing to drugs over to get destroyed but instead keeping them. How can we know if Officers are keeping the drugs or handing them over? So thats why I agree that drugs should be destroyed as soon as you confiscate them instead of having to hand them over. All the drugs are not being handed over as they should. I don't know how many times I have stated this in this thread.
:ps: I never said to kick Gang members out of the ARPD. I am just requesting a system to make sure people are not frisking and selling the drugs. That's all. I do not agree that gang members should not be in the ARPD. That never came out of my mouth.
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the ARPD doesnt got more quality because of members in the Mafia Panda,
look at the high cop rankings, you will not/rarely find a gang member there,
gang members get stucked around officer/senior officer
So you are saying that all high-ranked cops are great in combat? I beg to differ.
so your saying that all except SWAT sucks?
so i suck, and a lot more with me who suck
Well, yeah, that would be correct. Officers need script support to function properly against the criminals. The criminals barely received anything from the RS4 scripts except for being able to escape after a while (which doesn't really "help", since officers are allowed to come back), and giving weapons to each other. Officers received the right to be issued weapons from a higher authority. Not to mention that they receive free weapons. If the scripts supported the criminals as much as it supports the ARPD, you wouldn't be as "tough".
and i wasnt here with lucas, but if all gang members would leave SAPD now,
then SAPD wouldnt lose much quality
If your theory is correct about gang members getting "stuck" at the officer/senior officer rank, taking them away from the force will do nothing beneficial for the SAPD. Think about it: Majority of the officers are in a criminal group. If you fire them all, they will be full-time criminals. When you take a large portion of the force away because they are in a criminal group, the SAPD will have no chance against the criminal forces. Do you get my point? Firing officers that are in a gang/mafia will definitely reduce the SAPD's quality. Unless, of course, they receive even more script support.
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Sorry for hijacking your thread Shawn, I know it was about drugs before. :conf: ;)
Yea, if you kick out all the criminals - how will you possibly be updated with criminal locations and tactics? You will, within mere days, be floundering and totally crumbling under the massive weight of criminals that you have just forced into full time criminality. Not only will you not know how they work anymore, but there will be shitloads more of them.
Believe me, I give away almost every criminal tactic I know to the SAPD. This information is definitely not useless, especially in kidnap situations which cops seem to not be able to foil properly (when done right by the criminals, anyway).
About the drug thing, I don't see any issue. You should be able to trust them - if you catch them breaking that trust then punish. Simply done.
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On topic: Some officers indeed do keep the drugs they confiscated from criminals for themselves and use/sell them. I like Thomas' suggestion about that /confiscate command.
Off topic: If gang members wouldn't be allowed in SAPD then the SAPD would lose a LOT of fine cops not only from criminal gangs... Bianconeri, there are good DMers in SAPD, no doubt, but can a handful of good shooters fight against hordes of criminals with combats, M4s and armour who aren't held back by rules? (except the server rules of course)
Criminals would roam the streets and Argonath would be thrown into chaos for sure. Not even SWAT can handle 20 suspects with 5-6 men...
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What is not also clear is, we can actually SUSPECT COPS, so this sort of RP is actually ALLOWED..
Yes it takes a higher rank to suspect but we can do it, and that ability is there to allow corrupt cops..
So is it allowed to RP corrupt if other people agree with the RP without any serious consequences?
No. He means that you can roleplay a corrupt cop without having to deal with hp bugs, being killed while on-duty, etc. ;)
As to speak from when Luca was around - to be completely honest the SAPD was fine with the "no being a criminal as an officer" rules, sure, they had complaints but I'm quite sure that didn't affect applications and the SAPD as a whole...
I'm tired and it's late Cane remind me tomorrow to give a full response here *lets out sigh*
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I'm tired and it's late Cane remind me tomorrow to give a full response here *lets out sigh*
Roger
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Well... Why isn't there a /confiscate command (or something) and it makes the drugs disappear at once? This way it will never happen :)
There is a Command like that, but only for FBI..... /destroydrugs or something.... dont even know.... but CBF could edit it, and/or add high ranked to be able to use it.... like, +Sergeants, or just +Senior Officers, who got /cancelsus too....
what would be the difference? we are not trying to steal FBI's job, just simple to make it easier, or help them on the Drugs side....
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IMHO, Cops who confiscate drugs must turn them in to a captain or higher to get them destroyed BEFORE EVER going off duty. Carry confiscated drugs off duty shouldn't be allowed as it will only cause confusion. Example - One of my fellow agents arrested a off duty SAPD and narcotics officer for kidnapping and massive killings of cops. He searched him, found drugs, he refused to give with the excuse "They're confiscated drugs, I need to give them to chief".
We won't take such excuse. If you act like a criminal off duty, with confiscated drugs.. expect to be treated like a criminal.
If you refuse to hand over drugs found with /frisk to FBI (IDK about SAPD) when arrested.. expect to be jailed in Mordor. Whether they are confiscated or not.
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IMHO, Cops who confiscate drugs must turn them in to a captain or higher to get them destroyed BEFORE EVER going off duty. Carry confiscated drugs off duty shouldn't be allowed as it will only cause confusion. Example - One of my fellow agents arrested a off duty SAPD and narcotics officer for kidnapping and massive killings of cops. He searched him, found drugs, he refused to give with the excuse "They're confiscated drugs, I need to give them to chief".
We won't take such excuse. If you act like a criminal off duty, with confiscated drugs.. expect to be treated like a criminal.
If you refuse to hand over drugs found with /frisk to FBI (IDK about SAPD) when arrested.. expect to be jailed in Mordor. Whether they are confiscated or not.
Couldn't they just store them in a house while of duty to get rid of them?? So when the higher ranks frisks them, they are found with nothing.
About the drug thing, I don't see any issue. You should be able to trust them - if you catch them breaking that trust then punish. Simply done.
Looking at the unban requests, many of Argonath Veterans and regulars were trusted, but you can't just trust everyone. I pretty sure admins had trust in them, but what about now?
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Well... Why isn't there a /confiscate command (or something) and it makes the drugs disappear at once? This way it will never happen :)
There is a Command like that, but only for FBI..... /destroydrugs or something.... dont even know.... but CBF could edit it, and/or add high ranked to be able to use it.... like, +Sergeants, or just +Senior Officers, who got /cancelsus too....
what would be the difference? we are not trying to steal FBI's job, just simple to make it easier, or help them on the Drugs side....
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=36440.0
I love how he stole my idea before I made a topic about it :P
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The command to destroy drugs/weed already exists, its for Captains and above, there is no need for it to be changed..
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The command to destroy drugs/weed already exists, its for Captains and above, there is no need for it to be changed..
I remember it was for ARPD level 4 in RS3 while i was a FBI Division assistant..
I remember also that i used it..
but, is it available to FBI?
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We know the drugs can be destroyed. I give my drugs over to the high ranks. What about the Officers who doesn't? How do you know everyone is handing them over? Not trying to bring other things into this topic, just like all the regulars who got caught abusing the weapon scripts and budgs, I believe regulars are abusing cop powers by being able to frisk for drugs and then turn around and sell them. My concern is that Officers are not handing to drugs over to get destroyed but instead keeping them. How can we know if Officers are keeping the drugs or handing them over? So thats why I agree that drugs should be destroyed as soon as you confiscate them instead of having to hand them over. All the drugs are not being handed over as they should. I don't know how many times I have stated this in this thread.
I am aware of the many thing you all are stating but No one is giving me answers to this just .......
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As I said, /confiscate or w/e that makes the drugs disappear from the owner and makes it go no where.
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100% Not supported.
And it offends me that you're implying I can't be as good of a cop as let's say... ElMartu (just an example) because I'm in a criminal group and he isn't.
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100% Not supported.
And it offends me that you're implying I can't be as good of a cop as let's say... ElMartu (just an example) because I'm in a criminal group and he isn't.
I didn't in anyway point fingers at anyone. I was regarding officers of a whole more then targeting the Officers in Gangs. I know the topic name may be mis leading. So you are telling me that you trust every officer of the ARPD, and thinks that every single one of them hands their drugs over? If somone can truthfully answer that and give good reasoning, I will request a lock for this topic.
:ps: Topic still Open For Discussion
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I've changed my opinion... Officers that belong to gangs are cool as long as they don't mix up characters.
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100% Not supported.
And it offends me that you're implying I can't be as good of a cop as let's say... ElMartu (just an example) because I'm in a criminal group and he isn't.
I didn't in anyway point fingers at anyone. I was regarding officers of a whole more then targeting the Officers in Gangs. I know the topic name may be mis leading. So you are telling me that you trust every officer of the ARPD, and thinks that every single one of them hands their drugs over? If somone can truthfully answer that and give good reasoning, I will request a lock for this topic.
:ps: Topic still Open For Discussion
Squeak is a part of the Araatus Yakuza so he took the topic name personal :roll:
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Well like CBF said.. Its not gonna change so why bother going on about it? Rules as they are is good enough.
If you are cought helping any mafia croup or w/e while on duty it will lead to punishment/copban or demotion.And as i am aware the rules for sgt or ltn + is becouse then you get access to more stuff on forum witch can be leaked... and i dont see how you can complain about the drug situation..
Its fine like it is now. So what if we confiscate drugs and keep it.. 80 % of SAPD give it to higher ranked cause they want to be promoted so they are showing their good hard work... If you dont give it then its your own problem.. And in the first place If a suspect got drugs on him its his own problem they can store it in their houses....
Like i said and i am going to repeat it.
People who want to be promoted normaly give higher ranked the drugs to show hard work.
i have seen pancher in 1 week period with 1-5k drugs that officers or w/e gave him if it was not more.
If you dont give it then you just not showing that you are confiscating drugs and then higher ranked wornt notice your work so fast.
and almost 80 % give the drugs to higher ranked and i have seen it before. And they use to give to FBI aswell then it was given to director and he destroyed it..
Shawn i see this topic is made cause of people not giving higher ranked the confiscated drugs.. and i fully understand what you say. But you probaly see the people who keep it and not the onces who hand it in.. When i was FBI about 10 officers a day would give me heroin and weed.. Everyday and i gave to director...
And yes you can RP a drugdealer and you can use that drugs that you taken from suspects..There was never a rule that we cant take it and keep it and there probaly will never be..
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And yes you can RP a drugdealer and you can use that drugs that you taken from suspects..There was never a rule that we cant take it and keep it and there probaly will never be..
And how exactly does that make any sense? I fail to see how.
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If you red all 3 pages you would be understanding it... the point is that Shawn is complaining about officers taking drugs from suspects then when they go offduty they sell it... You can RP a drugdealer and if you found the drugs you can probaly keep it you are not forced to give it to higher ranked... But its always the best option.
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Well like CBF said.. Its not gonna change so why bother going on about it? Rules as they are is good enough.
If you are cought helping any mafia croup or w/e while on duty it will lead to punishment/copban or demotion.And as i am aware the rules for sgt or ltn + is becouse then you get access to more stuff on forum witch can be leaked... and i dont see how you can complain about the drug situation..
Its fine like it is now. So what if we confiscate drugs and keep it.. 80 % of SAPD give it to higher ranked cause they want to be promoted so they are showing their good hard work... If you dont give it then its your own problem.. And in the first place If a suspect got drugs on him its his own problem they can store it in their houses....
Like i said and i am going to repeat it.
People who want to be promoted normaly give higher ranked the drugs to show hard work.
i have seen pancher in 1 week period with 1-5k drugs that officers or w/e gave him if it was not more.
If you dont give it then you just not showing that you are confiscating drugs and then higher ranked wornt notice your work so fast.
and almost 80 % give the drugs to higher ranked and i have seen it before. And they use to give to FBI aswell then it was given to director and he destroyed it..
Shawn i see this topic is made cause of people not giving higher ranked the confiscated drugs.. and i fully understand what you say. But you probaly see the people who keep it and not the onces who hand it in.. When i was FBI about 10 officers a day would give me heroin and weed.. Everyday and i gave to director...
And yes you can RP a drugdealer and you can use that drugs that you taken from suspects..There was never a rule that we cant take it and keep it and there probaly will never be..
Dude.....this is the ONLY explanation that could satisfy me. :app: You got my point, you gave me a good point from your side, dude you were just awesome. You understood me very well and I understood you very well. Why couldn't you post on the first days of this thread? :rules: Lol But good Job. :cop:
If somone can truthfully answer that and give good reasoning, I will request a lock for this topic.
LOCK THIS THREAD!