Argonath RPG Police Department
General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Jcstodds on February 16, 2010, 18:27:02 pm
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Ok I keep it quick and expand later since I don't have much time.
Today I saw old players RPing "Speed Cameras". They told me that they were RPing "Inanimate objects".
My super quick summary and arguements:
1 RPing inanimate objects should be able to use /su ? I think it's unfair that no one can interact with these players in an RP way (because they pretend to be a camera), yet /su is an accepted force RP.
2 I suggested to use camera vans and actually RP cops with speed guns. Although this never happened (would make a lot better RP, since cameras cant ignore everyone who tries to RP then).
3 Creates a lot more serious crimes than solves smaller crimes. Granted, initially I welcomed the idea, seeing su's come to LSPD to pay fines... but then I realise most people go to cameras to get /su intentionally so they can get police chase. Also, many who do not want to pay fine will go on to commit severe crimes such as shooting, evading etc...
Bottom line. I would have liked to arrest and question these speed cameras, for reason 3. However since they would not RP (Because they were being inanimate) that makes further RP impossible. Yet they are still allowed to make all these suspects out of nothing.
And yes, I am a guy who will never fine for speeding. So much more RP to be had than handing out a fine.
So what are your views on these sadistic players?
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I agree totatly withall of that Jcstodds. These cameras are nice but there causeing to much crime as it is. I suggest they need to be taken down and officers do the speed gun. Because in real life they just take a picture of your licese plate. And you get your ticket in the mail. They don't really suspect at all. This is a great idea but they need to put a BOLO out on the car and id of the car.(Be On the Look Out) But this is just causeing LS to get swarmed with suspects.
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Yeah it's a good idea but it has gotten way out of hand. I witnessed three poeple getting suspected for speeding with 30 seconds, also they make no attempt to actually RP and they are causing alot of many other serious crimes as JCS said. I feel that they should not just straight /su the suspects they should notify other officer, for example: Be advised, <name> was caught speeding over <speed>.
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And I just witnessed some abuse on CAMERA_36's part,It suspected a Corleone I believe for over 80khm in Market when the Corleone mentioned WASENT EVEN IN A CAR.
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To be honest like the idea of a suspect bot, maybe it will hlep decreasing the amount of moans after some time.
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To be honest like the idea of a suspect bot, maybe it will hlep decreasing the amount of moans after some time.
We already have a suspect bot,it called nothing but when you kill someone it auto suspects you
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I agree totatly withall of that Jcstodds. These cameras are nice but there causeing to much crime as it is. I suggest they need to be taken down and officers do the speed gun. Because in real life they just take a picture of your licese plate. And you get your ticket in the mail. They don't really suspect at all. This is a great idea but they need to put a BOLO out on the car and id of the car.(Be On the Look Out) But this is just causeing LS to get swarmed with suspects.
Yeah it's a good idea but it has gotten way out of hand. I witnessed three poeple getting suspected for speeding with 30 seconds, also they make no attempt to actually RP and they are causing alot of many other serious crimes as JCS said. I feel that they should not just straight /su the suspects they should notify other officer, for example: Be advised, <name> was caught speeding over <speed>.
This is way out of hand they are only causing more suspects and our making it hard for Officers to do their job. all these suspects out number Police, and people are just going by the cameras to just get suspeted,and causing them to DM the people rping the cameras.
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If i do recall Procdure states if someone is speeding attempt to pullover first. Not suspect them right away.
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The players that are doing it are all freecops. However are not new cops. I remember one of them was a SWAT operative.
So SAPD procedures are not in effect. HOWEVER, as they are freecops, SAPD can stand up and take action if felt appropriate.
A headup though. Rapists are not effective against them.
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I don't mind them. 50% of the people suspected go pay the fine, and the rest are guys who are suspected 60% of their time in-game anyways. It creates some nice RP for cops who want to protect them, and those who want to stop them :)
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I don't mind them. 50% of the people suspected go pay the fine, and the rest are guys who are suspected 60% of their time in-game anyways. It creates some nice RP for cops who want to protect them, and those who want to stop them :)
Agreed on creating RP for protecting and destroying (hehe).
HOWEVER. Speed camera on a roof? Speed camera in a heli? Taking it a bit too far. As these 'speed cameras' become magic super cameras that can never switch off, identify crimes by sight and be invincible since they are inanimate objects rather than a person who can be interacted with.
If they were officers in vans with lazer guns to identify speeders they would have my full support. As officers can be interacted with. The cameras can be RPed with (whether a vehicle or weapon camera), and of course the officers are susceptible to attacks and then of course will need protection. What I do not like, is the forcing /su on players with hardly any RP involved for the /su in the first place and being invincible because they are RPing inanimate objects which gives severe limitations on any other RP.
It is the equivalent, in my eyes, as doing this: "I am a gun, I will /die everyone who I shoot. If I die myself, I will become another gun". (ok this is a very exaggerated concept that of course I would never do, but I try to get the point across).
Ending point. This is not cops and robbers server. Despite how much some of you would like it to be.
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Gatso's (Speed cameras) work by taking 2 images within .5 of a second of each other of the same car, so if they want to do this they should be able to do /speed [ID] with a .5 of a second gap between the command and work out an average, the way they work in reality is the lines painted on the tarmac determine the car's speed.
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In a way this is enforcing speeding but I don't like it because it is force rping. It is fine if they do it but atleast pull them over than suspect them. I remeber this yesterday and I didn't like this one bit. Speed Cameras not recommended.
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The amount of suspects is not healthy for cops or for civilians.
Granted, I usually get suspected anyway, but a lot of people are just getting sussed for pretty much no reason. I actually got suspected today whilst stationary because the camera player fails so badly.
All you end up with is an army of unarmed suspects in extremely fast cars. This is not good.
As much as I enjoy tormenting the (immortal and unrelenting) speed camera griefers, it will get annoying for people who are just driving around.
It was no issue before, but its probably worth noting that 80kmph is f**king slow.
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Someone was suspected for going 83 km/h going though the speed cam and get suspected. It should be :ban: It really isn't really making since it is just taking out of the traffic stops. I don't mind if Officers stage and look for speeders and pull them over, but seriously an automatic suspect? In real life, if you get caught by a speed cam then you get a ticket through the mail, not going to go to jail. LOL this is outrageous. Also, I think it is [NP]Curse that started this all. Didn't he change his name to Secretservices, now? ughh. As ARPD we have to get this to stop, it isn't right.
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thanks to the police cameras, now we don't need to pull over speeders, they will immediately pop up at LSPD, the pulling over procedure, if not agreed by both sides is also force rp, so suspecting for speeding is actually correct.They are civilians of Argonath and know the law, however I think that only continuous speeding deserves a suspect.
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Yes, it is force RP, and can get problem like Point 3 as Jcs told.
But... these cameras show us how the player drive... and break the traffic law, even they passed their driving lessons and exams, they learned the speed limit and how to drive, but when they got the license, They don't obey it anymore, they just keep saying "Argo don't support force RP", In my oponion, it's just stupid excusion.
Players just need to drive slower then, obey the traffic law, at least the Driving Part...
Now most players moan about them, being abused, I would like to ask, how abusing? If you drive fast, break traffic law, You get suspected. Pay the fine, or go to jail, and obey the traffic laws, how that's simple of fixing these problems?
What about if ARPD got more Traffic Enforcement Officer? who pull over/fine/arrest every reckless/speeder drivers?
Will "those people" moan again?
Please, get the point of both Positive and Negative ways.
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I have been rammed to hell by ppl driving like 180+ within city borders untill these came. Now it's actually safe to cruise around with getting hammered into by a car going with the speed of a bullet :P
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FYI
yesterday guy named "Nigel_James" using suspect reason "SPEED CAMERA | ABOVE **KPH"
Warned,or banned for abusing camhack.
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I drive like crazy all the time and no ones ever pulled me over :redface:
I seriously do not like the attitude of 'su for speeding' full stop. It's a game, if you keep getting smashed up at a million miles an hour why not look where your going? Speeding is fun. Driving slow is boring (unless it has purpose, e.g. limo). Really this is taking it too far for me. I accept that some officers will su for speeding. But these 'cameras' are /su all players over 80kph without any RP interaction. This is too far, and I think is ruining ARPD, that we are suspected people for crimes so petty. All this is doing, no matter what reason, is turning server into a cops and robber mashup. People will RP less when SU. That is a truth I believe in. More people su, less people who RP.
Edit: I previously mention this is ruining ARPD. Even though the 'cameras' are not ARPD as such, they are being fully supported by many ARPD members.
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I agree Jcs
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even they passed their driving lessons and exams,
I never did any.
they learned the speed limit and how to drive, but when they got the license, They don't obey it anymore,
Like real life then, or is that just Britain?
Now most players moan about them, being abused, I would like to ask, how abusing?
I got suspected whilst stationary at a junction.
This is how they are abusing.
If you drive fast, break traffic law, You get suspected.
Which is shit.
What about if ARPD got more Traffic Enforcement Officer? who pull over/fine/arrest every reckless/speeder drivers?
I have absolutely no issue with officers giving chase and attempting to pull me over.
At least then have a chance to quickly escape their suspect range and "succeed" as it were at escaping the cops right there. I will of course then have to change car, but whatever - that is fun for me and I don't mind getting suspected then.
Getting suspected by a griefer who has absolutely no intention of chasing you himself is not fun in any way, and is ruining the entire SAPD's reputation, because whilst they are not SAPD they are supported by many members of the SAPD.
I seriously do not like the attitude of 'su for speeding' full stop.
I agree, there should be a small chance to escape a pullover without suspection.
It's a game,
QFT @ this entire idea.
Speeding is fun. Driving slow is boring
Exactly. Also see quote above this one.
But these 'cameras' are /su all players over 80kph without any RP interaction.
Exactly, there is no communication at all, just a random suspection, which is retarded.
All this is doing, no matter what reason, is turning server into a cops and robber mashup.
Indeed, half the server is suspected and half the server is cops, because all the civilians are out of money from the /ad "tax increase" :(.
People will RP less when SU. That is a truth I believe in. More people su, less people who RP.
Quoted for obvious point that people need to think about. o=
Edit: I previously mention this is ruining ARPD. Even though the 'cameras' are not ARPD as such, they are being fully supported by many ARPD members.
Indeed.
And once again:
It's a game,
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I agree with Jcstodds and yes it is ruining the ARPD.
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I'd rather drive fast and have fun than turn Argonath into tedious real life. The idea of auto-suspecting speed cameras is simply bollocks. Hell, I've seen captains going over 120 km/h in city limits without responding to a situation just because they can't be arsed to drive like the law tells them to. I doubt the people, who threaten officers with punishments should they speed, drive recklessly themselves while on duty.
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If i do recall Procdure states if someone is speeding attempt to pullover first. Not suspect them right away.
I support that 100% .
Btw I would support Camera if they would do /r instead of /su . Reporting speed, car, color like "White comet, speed >80km/h in Commerce LS" and then Units patroling in LS pullover the car. That would increase some team work moreover.
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If i do recall Procdure states if someone is speeding attempt to pullover first. Not suspect them right away.
I support that 100% .
Btw I would support Camera if they would do /r instead of /su . Reporting speed, car, color like "White comet, speed >80km/h in Commerce LS" and then Units patroling in LS pullover the car. That would increase some team work moreover.
Yea. Agreed.
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I was thinking
And I change my point of /su right away
Those cameras, should send pic to the HQ (Saying on /r the description of the car, and let LEO pull them over/or set up traffic stop roadblock)
Is the best way I can think of
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I drive like crazy all the time and no ones ever pulled me over :redface:
Some people just won't bother, but i will. I will hunt you down and make you pay that ticket regardless of the cost! Speeding is a crime and you shall be served justice, like the guy in my avatar.
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I drive like crazy all the time and no ones ever pulled me over :redface:
Some people just won't bother, but i will. I will hunt you down and make you pay that ticket regardless of the cost! Speeding is a crime and you shall be served justice, like the guy in my avatar.
I'm a cop most of the time :lol:
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I am pedistrian camera 049 if you walk faster then 5 mph I fine you 50 dollars !!
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I drive like crazy all the time and no ones ever pulled me over :redface:
Some people just won't bother, but i will. I will hunt you down and make you pay that ticket regardless of the cost! Speeding is a crime and you shall be served justice, like the guy in my avatar.
I'm a cop most of the time :lol:
Then the FBI will hunt you down with the help of Kirby :gun:
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I'm always on an important mission when speeding :redface: :cowb:
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I am pedistrian camera 049 if you walk faster then 5 mph I fine you 50 dollars !!
LOL :rofl: That is probably what will happen. LOL!
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All cameras will be removed tomorrow
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Another problem of automatic su. If they were cameras, people should not have to pay fine for cancelsu. So if they dont pay fine straight away they go to jail or get killed? That doesn't sound fair. What if someone doesn't believe that they are guilty of speeding. Innocent until proven guilty? ... If you are ordered to pay a fine, you have a time limit. You shouldn't have to do it straight away... and there is no investigation into the speeding when paid fine. No one can say they are innocent can they?... Which is unfair in all RP terms.
And as for speeding itself. The /speed and server speed is consistently higher than camhack speed (which I believe to be more accurate due to apparent quicker refresh rate). I have done a few tests and there are still speed spikes, where it will randomly go from 80 to 100 with /speed.
I will conduct more tests (they have been video'd) that think will show if /su based on /speed is fair when no investigation is taken. (speeders can normally be seen by comparing your speed with their speed, in which case you /speed to backup your beliefs for RP purposes.
Also I will remind. I will have no problem if some cops want to RP a mobile speed camera in any type of van, this is fair and feasible, as they are RPing cops with speed laser/ camera. Pretending to be a camera is not fair and I think can be abusive.
I will, and always will stand by the belief that RP should be fun but fair for ALL involved, whether cops or not.
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Guys, get over it. They are just cameras RP'ing! If you don't want a ticket, don't speed! It's simple as that!
This is a RPG server, not a race server! If you don't want to slow down, pay the ticket or leave this server.
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Guys, get over it. They are just cameras RP'ing! If you don't want a ticket, don't speed! It's simple as that!
This is a RPG server, not a race server! If you don't want to slow down, pay the ticket or leave this server.
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Guys, get over it. They are just cameras RP'ing! If you don't want a ticket, don't speed! It's simple as that!
This is a RPG server, not a race server! If you don't want to slow down, pay the ticket or leave this server.
I really hate when people say this. Instead of attempting to make improvements, your intentions are to tell people to f**k off.
Pathetic.
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This is a RPG server, not a race server! If you don't want to slow down, pay the ticket or leave this server.
This is a game, not real life! If you don't want to drive fast, buy a car IRL and leave this server.
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Guys, get over it. They are just cameras RP'ing! If you don't want a ticket, don't speed! It's simple as that!
This is a RPG server, not a race server! If you don't want to slow down, pay the ticket or leave this server.
This I actually support.
This is a RPG server, not a race server! If you don't want to slow down, pay the ticket or leave this server.
This is a game, not real life! If you don't want to drive fast, buy a car IRL and leave this server.
omai no, dis is rp game
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CAMERA_0026 = Banned for ignoring admins! :evil:
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camera smoked weed yesterday(when 207 or 211 in argobank)
And....I Got sus by camera 2 times for speeding,but was Non-Speeding.
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Guys, get over it. They are just cameras RP'ing! If you don't want a ticket, don't speed! It's simple as that!
This is a RPG server, not a race server! If you don't want to slow down, pay the ticket or leave this server.
There are many types of RP. All are allowed on Argonath. However commands are not allowed to be abused, and naturally people will not enjoy the game if it is unfair and not fun. The camera's do very little RP. All they do is /su. The majority of RP is done by others, regardless of whether camera is there or not.
Most of the speeders are not racing. If they were racing, this would be RP, and this is completely acceptable, since racers have to risk getting caught by the cops... RPG can represent many types of server since it is only limited by the imagination of what people want to RP.
Why don't you read the whole topic before placing such a dimwitted argument?... because I really don't wan't to have to quote all of my previous points.
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Guys, get over it. They are just cameras RP'ing! If you don't want a ticket, don't speed! It's simple as that!
This is a RPG server, not a race server! If you don't want to slow down, pay the ticket or leave this server.
I really hate when people say this. Instead of attempting to make improvements, your intentions are to tell people to f**k off.
Pathetic.
Please explain to me how the f**k getting rid of the cameras is an improvement. I would REALLY love to know. NO ONE should be speeding in the first place. Like I said before, this is a RPG server not a RACING SERVER. If you want to race, go find another server and leave this one.
@JCStodds: Given that it's impossible for them to mail tickets to users instead of suspecting them, what else would you rather them do? They have no script support other than being a cop on duty, and they are actually following ARPD guidelines the way they are doing it. Suspecting for speeding IS valid if the suspecting officer is on foot and the driver is speeding in a vehicle. Secondly, does it matter if they are racing or not? No. They are speeding regardless and thus their tickets are valid.
The camera is literally the same thing as a speed trap on the street where an officer is standing and catching speeders. There is absolutely no difference and you people need to stop crying over getting tickets when you shouldn't be speeding in the first place...especially when you know better as a trained cop.
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Please explain to me how the f**k getting rid of the cameras is an improvement. I would REALLY love to know. NO ONE should be speeding in the first place. Like I said before, this is a RPG server not a RACING SERVER. If you want to race, go find another server and leave this one.
Are you not aware of the system in this server? Once you are suspected, cops will most likely shoot you down for the smallest crime. It doesn't matter if you give the suspect the time to surrender or not. As soon as this so-called camera detects someone speeding, they will automatically be suspected - which gives cops on duty (mostly freecops who are unfamiliar of the rules) to shoot him/her down. Also, you do not have to be 'racing' to be speeding. The speed limit, 80 km/h, is just too slow. In real life, not everyone obeys the speed limit all the time; not everyone gets caught for doing so either. By implementing this system of cameras, you are forcing roleplay to all players.
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BTW,an admin cam over RCON and said camera were to be decommissied by tommrow,one even got banned for not complying to an admin
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@JCStodds: Given that it's impossible for them to mail tickets to users instead of suspecting them, what else would you rather them do?
The camera is literally the same thing as a speed trap on the street where an officer is standing and catching speeders.
I have already explained what I would rather them do. Go back, and for the second time, I ask you to read the topic through than rushing in posting garbage. And a camera, as I have also mentioned in a similar context is not the same as an officer standing in the street RPing with a speed gun. An officer is a person, can act, react, investigate and interact with players. A speed camera only reacts to speeding with /su and does not interact with players.
I have made suggestions for improvements. RPing a speed camera I find unacceptable in terms of fairness and inventiveness, literally taking on the role of a robot, which I get on to so many cops about already. RPing an officer, that's completely different. How about you take some time to actually read through topic now?
EDIT: If cameras are decommissioned and you still like the idea, I will show a true method that is fair and more RP - ingame if you can't be arsed to read whole topic.
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Now the Cameras is gone...
But now we have new problem...
LetherCowboy abusive cops...
What you guys will moan, now?
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One of the leather thingies is keybinding this pharse "we have metal horses"
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Please explain to me how the f**k getting rid of the cameras is an improvement. I would REALLY love to know. NO ONE should be speeding in the first place. Like I said before, this is a RPG server not a RACING SERVER. If you want to race, go find another server and leave this one.
Are you not aware of the system in this server? Once you are suspected, cops will most likely shoot you down for the smallest crime. It doesn't matter if you give the suspect the time to surrender or not. As soon as this so-called camera detects someone speeding, they will automatically be suspected - which gives cops on duty (mostly freecops who are unfamiliar of the rules) to shoot him/her down. Also, you do not have to be 'racing' to be speeding. The speed limit, 80 km/h, is just too slow. In real life, not everyone obeys the speed limit all the time; not everyone gets caught for doing so either. By implementing this system of cameras, you are forcing roleplay to all players.
Correction, officers on foot may do the SAME exact thing as cameras, so you are claiming that the rule for officers to do that is unjust, correct?
Sorry guys, but you really need to wake up and GET OVER IT. It is completely fair. If they don't want to be suspected, they shouldn't be speeding. If officers suddenly started going on foot more often and suspected every speeder they saw instead of this camera system existing, everyone would be moaning again too. Sorry but your arguments hold no validity. If they don't want to deal with it, they shouldn't speed.
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I wasn't aware speeding was an executable offense.
Argonath has no levels of suspection, no tiers of severity.
You get suspected, then you are orange.
You are now on the blue team's kill list, and it's really no more complicated than that.
Suspecting someone without trying to pull them over is retarded, but suspecting them and not chasing them is just griefing. Anyone who does that should go be a dickhead elsewhere, frankly.
If you're gonna be a tosser and insta-sus someone for speeding, then at least f**king chase them. If you don't you're just a griefer, and should get hit by a car.
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Maybe it's a misinterpretation..
but common to player's eyes.
If you're asking for a cop change, you'll have to fight alot and argue alot to make developers do something.
They can do something, but it's very limited... far beyond the point where cops can rp, including criminals.
for example, Panda said orange ppl are blue kill list, you have option to surrender, don't you?
oranges are criminals, and they tend to be neutralized if needed, to "protect state", and arrested if he surrenders.
that sounds better already, doesnt it? but you'll still lose $1000 and will still die by the same light blue shirt and black pants with a hat uniform. :(
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police cameras forces traffic rules, that's an advantage, but they have no capacibility to interact well with players, all they do is: my access only CBF or pancher has it.
they can be considered random message to cops, such as cop xxx suspected xxx for xxx, or camera xx is being be vandalized at xxx, more spamming for such a bad comunication in police radio.
Usually speeding crimes results in fine, traffic accidents can be arrested..
My idea is: if someone is speeding and the camera caughts him, he should be issued a ticket via SMS or PM, failure to pay it, results in suspection.
the payment can be done by /wire or send to any cop...
that would work better instead of making whole civillians including newbies wanted.
also, newbies should be told the traffic limits
Working with an special team whom responds to any camera call would work even better.
the camera idea, is not a bad idea, but it's messy, and needs an repair!!
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Correction, officers on foot may do the SAME exact thing as cameras, so you are claiming that the rule for officers to do that is unjust, correct?
Officers can do the exact same thing but no one said it was unjust in that sense, because people who have read the topic are not the ones missing the point completely.
Here is that point, which has been explicitly explained in this topic about 3 times now:
police cameras forces traffic rules, that's an advantage, but they have no capacibility to interact well with players, all they do is: my access only CBF or pancher has it.
they can be considered random message to cops, such as cop xxx suspected xxx for xxx, or camera xx is being be vandalized at xxx, more spamming for such a bad comunication in police radio.
Working with an special team whom responds to any camera call would work even better.
the camera idea, is not a bad idea, but it's messy, and needs an repair!!
1 RPing inanimate objects should be able to use /su ? I think it's unfair that no one can interact with these players in an RP way (because they pretend to be a camera), yet /su is an accepted force RP.
2 I suggested to use camera vans and actually RP cops with speed guns. Although this never happened (would make a lot better RP, since cameras cant ignore everyone who tries to RP then).
If they were officers in vans with lazer guns to identify speeders they would have my full support. As officers can be interacted with. The cameras can be RPed with (whether a vehicle or weapon camera), and of course the officers are susceptible to attacks and then of course will need protection. What I do not like, is the forcing /su on players with hardly any RP involved for the /su in the first place and being invincible because they are RPing inanimate objects which gives severe limitations on any other RP.
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You run a red light in my city and the camera will take a picture of your license, and you'll have a ticket at your doorstep in the next few days. I don't get why people are so hyped up. :conf:
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You are now on the blue team's kill list, and it's really no more complicated than that.
im thinking using Lethal force on suspect is [/b]FINAL OPTION[/b],must arrest and jail them.
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You are now on the blue team's kill list, and it's really no more complicated than that.
im thinking using Lethal force on suspect is [/b]FINAL OPTION[/b],must arrest and jail them.
Do ANY of you people read the ARPD handbook anymore?!?
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Please explain to me how the f**k getting rid of the cameras is an improvement. I would REALLY love to know. NO ONE should be speeding in the first place. Like I said before, this is a RPG server not a RACING SERVER. If you want to race, go find another server and leave this one.
This isn't a racing server, but this isn't a gritty reality server either. Why should we act like boring old men in their 70s when we can act like some guy from nascar?
There is nothing wrong with the speed cameras.
I agree with that. I don't care about the speed cameras not one bit. When people are speeding they shouldn't complain that they've been 'abused' or something since they know very well they're breaking a law. Still, driving 200 km/h is much more fun than driving 80 km/h.
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Sugar has a point, but you do as well Oliver. There is nothing wrong with the speed cameras.
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Sugar has a point, but you do as well Oliver. There is nothing wrong with the speed cameras.
To a certain extent there is a problem, I don't really mind them, but I wish they couldn't suspect them for it. Instead it would be more roleplayable if we put it in the police radio. Whenever someone just goes like 90-100 you still get suspected for it. I even tested them to see if they just suspect if they go past 80. I wish they could just pull the person over. I still agree with Jcstodds on this one. I understand the other point of views but this camera creates more suspects whenever we have like 20 other suspects to get. Anyway, since this is a roleplay server it would make better since to do a traffic stop. Whenever you suspect someone (/su), we usually have that one cop that just shoots at the suspect, so I think it would be best to put it in the police radio. In my opinion the speed camera is basically the same as setting at a place and wait for speeders. Whenever you watch for speeders, do you suspect them or pull them over? You should attempt to pull them over not suspect them, so my question is why suspect them for speeding as a camera?
-Don't get me wrong this is my personal belief, doesn't really mean anything.
Signed,
TinMan
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How you use camera?Where is the forum where you put in the pics you uploaded
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How you use camera?Where is the forum where you put in the pics you uploaded
Did this really need to be bumped?
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How you use camera?Where is the forum where you put in the pics you uploaded
Did this really need to be bumped?
I don't see why not since past few weeks I've seen cameras popping out.
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I think it's a little unfair, to say the least.
The whole point of the server is for roleplay, and I suppose if people don't want to partake in roleplay, then we must question why they are playing in the server. :)