Reminder to all cops.

[Husky]

If the criminal can't RP a proper shootout it's another discussion...

I think what he meant by that is that if a criminal stays behind cover and doesn't pull stupid shit, it's roleplaying a shootout. Not all roleplay is done by /me or /l

people can pull out shit as much as they want, ofcourse they shouldnt but they can so they usually do but the point is that after that either parts complain, atleast if you puss astupid shit shut the f**k up and don't complain, or "RP" properly, which does NOT mean that you have to /me everything -_-

[[R*]Drix]

The thing is they don't fight with they're minds. They go like blind shitheads trying to get 100$

[Gird3r]

The thing is they don't fight with they're minds. They go like blind shitheads trying to get 100$

Good to know that you are an officer, and that you are whining about us, the freecops.

Oh wait isn't "senior" people supposed to teach? If freecops run into fray like "blind shitheads" then it's you, the seniors who have failed to teach us.

Officer "Shithead". 

[smey]

Gird3r, what are you actually doing here besides criticizing everything ARPD does? No-one forces you to play on Argonath SA:MP as cop.

[Cane]

Gird3r, what are you actually doing here besides criticizing everything ARPD does? No-one forces you to play on Argonath SA:MP as cop.

He has a point.

[JDC]

Gird3r, what are you actually doing here besides criticizing everything ARPD does? No-one forces you to play on Argonath SA:MP as cop.

At least someone has enough courage to point out the rampant problems in AR/SAPD.

[Vince_Kaufman]

I've noticed the same issue where i am taking cover behind a car and the criminal decides "oh im not gonna rp im just gonna f**k this guy's day over and kill him with my badass shotgun." To be honest, when i saw shit like that in GPM people would get kicked for that shit [they're pretty serious over there]. I mean, the best you could do on here is just /report the unRP tactic, but in all honesty it's inevitable unless you are with a good RP'er. If not [which is like 95% of the time i do] you're f**ked. 

[Joseph_Allen]

I've noticed the same issue where i am taking cover behind a car and the criminal decides "oh im not gonna rp im just gonna f**k this guy's day over and kill him with my badass shotgun."

I've recently done a new tactic. My partners go in, go toe - to - toe DM with DMer with Combat. I hang back with my M4 firing at the fool whenever he fires his combat. So far in DM server it works XD.

[Gird3r]

Gird3r, what are you actually doing here besides criticizing everything ARPD does? No-one forces you to play on Argonath SA:MP as cop.

No, but apprently. Officers got the full right to call freecops "shitheads".
And defending them and pointing out the flaws in his post, is what I did. How did that dude become an officer with his attidude against newer players anyways?

What's next? Freecops are stupid noobs or what, dosen't that kind of attidude go against the very meaning of helping freecops understand anything about working as an cop. Then the guides that are here have no meaning and the freecops will learn nothing when they get called "noob" and "shithead".

An very "good" defend reply from another cop, and to my suprise it's an Lieutenant. Good work defending an officer who apprently got attidude problems against new players/cops. 

[Wayne]

I'd like to point out few problems and solutions

Problem: Taking Cover/Fleeing
Some officers/freecops doesn't seems to understand what's danger or not, they have a care-free attitude.

Possibly solution
Give priority to "combat training" in academy, force the officers follow it, teach freecops. (In a nicer way, not like: DO IT YOU @!#!#@.)

What's next? Freecops are stupid noobs or what, dosen't that kind of attidude go against the very meaning of helping freecops understand anything about working as an cop. Then the guides that are here have no meaning and the freecops will learn nothing when they get called "noob" and "shithead".

Freecops are newcomers, some of then a potential great cops, Once you filter them, you can use them to be your partner, Or, let them go as "Cannon fodder" in combat.

I have to admit, Drix went a bit too far. Not all freecops have been taught with SWAT tactics and SAPD Training like you Drix.



I'd like to point out another thing..

I was hanging with some criminals, in the "favela" including Kirby and Hellmuth.
I have to admit that cops have a little or no organization in heavy situations.
I presencied myself as Lt, however, i have forgiven it cuz SFPD didn't had many officers.

Last time in the favela, more than 30 officers have been downed, by 4-6 criminals! this is way too much!!
By the way, it was not a interior, it was a open area.

Communication needs a improvement here, Even through they organized themselves a bit, it was still too messed.

No, i'm not saying they should've killed them, but, atleast gave better results.



Also, there's no solution by increasing guns, I belive, the solution is having only Deagle and SMG and pepper, they will become more careful.

[Boozman]

I'd like to point out few problems and solutions

Problem: Taking Cover/Fleeing
Some officers/freecops doesn't seems to understand what's danger or not, they have a care-free attitude.

Possibly solution
Give priority to "combat training" in academy, force the officers follow it, teach freecops. (In a nicer way, not like: DO IT YOU @!#!#@.)

GOOD IDEA. I know how I will do it too >:]

[Joseph_Allen]

Also, there's no solution by increasing guns, I believe, the solution is having only D Eagle and SMG and pepper, they will become more careful.

Yes. But then there's still the problem of the suspects, who eschew cover, tactics and RP for Rambo-ing. Not all Cops can go toe - to - toe when it comes to DM. I can't fight a guy in a straight fight, I'd rather hang back with my buddies engaging the suspect while I rip him to pieces from afar with a M4.

[Wayne]

If a tactic fails, you'll have to use your common sense

It is not necessary having M4, Combat, etc... while on duty when you don't have the skills. You will die in the same way (just suposing)

[Andrew_R]

If a tactic fails, you'll have to use your common sense

It is not necessary having M4, Combat, etc... while on duty when you don't have the skills. You will die in the same way (just suposing)

LoL, That's true.
Today I totaly pwned a suspect that was at Gstar HQ, and I was like 100 meters away, with a deagle ... His health got down to 0.1, before he moved out of sight, but later he got killed.

[Kenny]

LoL, That's true.
Today I totaly pwned a suspect that was at Gstar HQ, and I was like 100 meters away, with a deagle ... His health got down to 0.1, before he moved out of sight, but later he got killed.

Lol actually it was me and plam who shot him with sniper, you just kept returning after death

[Andrew_R]

 

[Gird3r]

Also, there's no solution by increasing guns, I belive, the solution is having only Deagle and SMG and pepper, they will become more careful.

Then I want criminals to use deagle too! 

But won't happen as every serious criminal got the handy Combat shotgun.

Sure they will be carefull (cops), but really There's not really an solution to giving the criminals the big heavy guns and cops only deagle. (if suspects weren't lagging so incredible bad I would actually support this idea fully out).

[Oliver Daniels]

It's cheaper to buy a combat shotgun than SMG

[Joseph_Allen]

Either way, we all have our own ways of fixing things.

Besides, M4's a bad girl to have. Just buying the weapon's a heartache.

All I'm sayin' is with what's happening right now, it's turning into a frigging routine and it's exasperating.

My usual routine (These days):

1.) Patrol around with or without buddies.
2.) Respond to massive C30s (Like the recent C30s at El Corona)
3.) Get torn up with combined combat/ D Eagle/ DM Tactics
4.) Respawn
5.) Return to scene
6.) Rinse and repeat till they run outta ammo or health.

I'm probably doing something wrong here

[Pazienza]

Either way, we all have our own ways of fixing things.

Besides, M4's a bad girl to have. Just buying the weapon's a heartache.

All I'm sayin' is with what's happening right now, it's turning into a frigging routine and it's exasperating.

My usual routine (These days):

1.) Patrol around with or without buddies.
2.) Respond to massive C30s (Like the recent C30s at El Corona)
3.) Get torn up with combined combat/ D Eagle/ DM Tactics
4.) Respawn
5.) Return to scene
6.) Rinse and repeat till they run outta ammo or health.

I'm probably doing something wrong here

Yes you are
If you keep returning alone you won't get anywhere