Updates 4.0 scripts

[smey]

Oh my no, why would criminals want to make it

more difficult for the cops to shoot you..

because then they would not die and give us money!
I mean, what the hell - how dare they try to survive. I can't believe it myself.

/sarcasm.

Bullshit. If they run = they run. If you read the ARPD guide, you will read that we are allowed to shoot after we warn them. So yes, we can shoot them, and like said by Ben: then it's more difficult for us to shoot them. And I know a suspect would then bunnyhop to survive, but it's still lame.

So If you Try to jump as advantage in a pursuit

As advantage? Yea.. thats the whole damn point. Cops (sometimes) suck really bad at the skill of bunnyhopping, so they fail to catch the criminal who is better trained than the cop. Yea - its an advantage.
Personally I think the free guns, the exclusive vehicles, the /su command, the exclusive skins, the different coloured names, the megaphone command and the infinite RP lives are advantages to cops. Want to remove those?
Cops have priveleges, advantages - so do criminals.
Criminals have the advantage that they are better than you. Its hardly an unfair one. Just get better at bunnyhopping, then go ahead of them and kill them.
Also, can't shoot a bunnyhopper? You need to take shooting lessons. Its a hell of a lot easier than shooting a runner.

Face it people, criminals are usually better than cops. In a one on one fight, with no asking surrender or anything, a (fairly good) criminal will probably win (unless its against Hank D:). They are better trained to survive than cops (and I'm talking, mainly freecops/cadets/new officers) because they don't have infinite lives. Which is fine - and I accept that. Its just funny when people get shirty that we (the criminals) keep killing them - as its hardly our fault that the cops in this situation, frankly, suck. Similarly, its hardly our fault that you can't catch us bunnyhopping - its a skill you have to develop. Want to go all "Fine then, I won't chase you." on us - go right ahead. Its not like we want to give you our money.

  Skill to bunnyhop? And like a skilled suspect to suddenly pull a sawn-off and kill us with one shot? The reason that criminals are mostly better is because they spend money on guns.

[[AV]Decy]

All i want to say/know is:
My /copban command better be feckin in it! 

[[Rstar]CBFASI]

1. I never saw in the street an Criminal bunnyhopping...

1 word... BLIND...

[smey]

1. I never saw in the street an Criminal bunnyhopping...

1 word... BLIND...

Imagine an American Most Wanted video, with the criminals bunnyhopping instead of sprinting.


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[smey]

Now suspects can escape and loose them wanted Lvl... And if they have a Sportcars?? Isnt that a big advantage why always lising to criminal side?? So if we loose Uzi It will be to easy for criminals... Road blocks dont work whitout Uzi the cars are pushed on the side like shit...

Well, we (SATP-CHP) did a practice roadblock yesterday, and we were able to stop a Huntley. Problem is that you see the roadblock from miles away, and you can easily divert your route or turn around.

We had fun though 

[Tovenaarke]

Samiir, can you please use the 'edite' buttom. Thx

[[Rstar]CBFASI]

And the cops who never abuse Uzi but they use them when nessecery?? They will be punishid because some cops dont now the rules or they job??? Like i said RS4 is more advantage for criminals then other things and alote of cops thinks the same as me but they dont have the balls to tell it... And removing uzi will not change a shit for abusing because he abusers will buy uzi and abuse ass well so it change nothing... So better to revoke the badges of the abusers then removing or equipment... If their is so a bit differance BTW a cadet and officer why to work hard to become an officer?? And why we officers worked so hard??

Do you honestly think I did everything possible to give criminals the advantage??

Uzi abuse is across the board with OFFICERS, CADETS and FREECOPS all doing this.

As for not changing abusers, well most of these seem to be the players that use it becuase they have them and did not have to pay to get it!

Those that go out and buy uzi's well, they will not get their money back and that will soon mean they run out...

Also as said the new system will be monitored by me to see just how much it changes thigs, do not forget SMG will be available but thankfully its not the same category of weapon as the Uzi, for a start it (MP5) is a weapon actually issued to many police firearms units..

The differenace between cadet and officer will be related to how much they get paid, how much ammo they get issued etc, that is quite a thing to gain.

FBI/SWAT skin is restricted... Why they have the rights on their own skins and not us??? If everybody can put ARPD Skin on  SO everybody must put FBi and swat skin to... I Now why it is restricted because swat and fbi worked hard to get in their and dont won that everybody put their skin on!!! We ARPD dont wont taht everybody after 1 week put us skin on!!!! And i speak in the place off many people who complained to me about this...

1.  Both SWAT and FBI are very organised groups which take that hard SAPD training and add even more, they have severe restrictions which are not present in SAPD.

2.  You would soon see lots of low quality SAPD (and yes I know exactly what I am saying) dress up as SWAT or FBI and many others would not realise they NOT actually SWAT or FBI and they could do whatever they wanted.  Both SWAT and FBI could soon get a very bad name and we DO have a reputation to uphold, SAPD's reputation is not worth upholding due to bad actions already present by freecops, CADETS and OFFICERS!

The current freecop/cadet uniform will NO LONGER be a SAPD/ARPD uniform... it will be a security guards uniform.

Skins no-longer give you rights, as they currently do in RS3.  Your rights affect what skins you can use not the other way round now.


When I was getting all the system setup for RS4 for cops I had different intentions, but was told what I had to do, that included opening up skins.  SWAT and FBI got restricted after long talks, along with the agreement that something had to be different about being a trained officer in SAPD, hence the difference in income and ammo issues.

It has also been written in such a way that changes can be made as needed to either improve or downgrade the system.

There are also OTHER features NOT mentioned that make a big differance to how all law enforcement work in argonath.
These will be detailed on RS4 release.

I did NOT do this all over night and I am saddened to see that after 4-5 months complaints about skins are still coming out, yet the whole system is better than the current system and provided more benifits in long term.
I am particulary saddened to see these last lot of complaints coming from an experianced officer who obviously cares more about skin than SAPD's furture.

[Panda]

And I know a suspect would then bunnyhop to survive, but it's still lame.

I don't bunnyhop to avoid shots, since it doesn't ever work. Its to go faster, not to dodge bullets.
And yea, trying to survive against cops - real lame.

Skill to bunnyhop? And like a skilled suspect to suddenly pull a sawn-off and kill us with one shot? The reason that criminals are mostly better is because they spend money on guns.

Sawnoffs are for people who have no skill, do not compare bunnyhopping to sawnoffs.
Those crapsticks are for people who have no idea how to use a real gun, so use that instakill machine instead.

Bunnyhopping - you can do it oh so wrong.

Damn guys, when I'm chasing criminals on duty, I always, always, always catch them in about 5 seconds on foot.
If bunnyhopping requires no skill - how am I so much better at doing it than the guy I'm chasing?

[smey]

And I know a suspect would then bunnyhop to survive, but it's still lame.

I don't bunnyhop to avoid shots, since it doesn't ever work. Its to go faster, not to dodge bullets.
And yea, trying to survive against cops - real lame.

I'm not saying it's lame to try to survive from the cops, it's lame to do it by bunnyhopping.

Skill to bunnyhop? And like a skilled suspect to suddenly pull a sawn-off and kill us with one shot? The reason that criminals are mostly better is because they spend money on guns.

Sawnoffs are for people who have no skill, do not compare bunnyhopping to sawnoffs.
Those crapsticks are for people who have no idea how to use a real gun, so use that instakill machine instead.

Bunnyhopping - you can do it oh so wrong.

Damn guys, when I'm chasing criminals on duty, I always, always, always catch them in about 5 seconds on foot.
If bunnyhopping requires no skill - how am I so much better at doing it than the guy I'm chasing?

Like I said: the reason that criminals mostly beat us is because they have (better) weapons. For example: I was chasing Eric Wright one day, when the pursuit terminated in a car lot in LV, he got out, and only got a silly 9mm, so I took him down with my duty Deagle. But I also remember chasing Eric before, and always when the pursuit ended, he killed me with sawn-offs. 

I know it has nothing to do with bunnyhopping, but I wasn't talking about the bunnyhopping, but about you saying that criminals are mostly better then us.

[Giovanni]

Well these changes is good and very helpful for both sides (ARPD & Civilians) 

Thank you All Who helped Developing RS4.0 

Good luck ! 

[Panda]

You and I both know weapons have nothing to do with criminal and cop fights.

When I go Uzi vs Uzi against an ARPD cop, I have no advantage of guns.

[[Rstar]CBFASI]

Problem with the uzi is where its used where it should not be.

With the new punishment system against cops this may of reduced anyway, but I decided to take both steps intially to see if we can get the cops to be better at their job.

[Chief J. Schappell]

Well these changes is good and very helpful for both sides (ARPD & Civilians) 

Thank you All Who helped Developing RS4.0 

Good luck ! 

Are you saying that the scripts are already up and online?!?

[[Rstar]CBFASI]

Yes the scripts are up..

BUT they are up on the Alpha server and not for public viewing quite yet.

[Chief J. Schappell]

Is there an E.T.A. or is it still unknown/under wraps?

[Tovenaarke]

If you read the topics on the main forum als, you can see there is NO DATE yet. Does that means the developpers aren't bussy? HELL NO!

They are trying to get it finished asap.

I hope this answered your question 

Greetz
- Srg. Tov. 

[Chief J. Schappell]

Where is the topic on the main forum? I've searched and searched and I've yet to find it...

[Larry "Pixy" Faulke]

check here http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?board=83.0

[Chief J. Schappell]

Thanks!

[saxin7]

CBFasi Its Not Stand Anything About If Somone Is SAPD Cadet Like Me I Just Found Rank Above Cadet And One Thing More I Got PassPort And License

All Uniforms
Can use Police Radio
Can use Police Cars
Is armed with Pepper Spray and 150 rounds Desert Eagle
May Jail, but only receives $400 income.
May kill suspect, receives $300
Fined $100 for killing a non-suspect

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Passport and has a rank, above cadet
All Uniforms
Can use Police Radio
Can use Police Cars
Is armed with Pepper Spray and 300 rounds Desert Eagle
Access to SMG in all police vehicles
May Jail, receives $600 income.
May kill suspect, receives $300
Fined $100 for killing a non-suspect