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ARPD's Finest
« on: January 17, 2010, 08:05:57 am »
Some of ARPD's finest

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fjlgNvVslQ

A special thanks to everyone participated in the video

Offline [Rstar]Vince

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Re: ARPD's Finest
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2010, 08:18:13 am »
 :cry:

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2007 - 2011

Offline Chief J. Schappell

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Re: ARPD's Finest
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2010, 08:26:13 am »
I'm sorry to say, but the laws specifically state that protests are only legal and allowed if you follow the explicit rules on them. You didn't have a set date/time for start or finish, and you were blocking a public roadway. Both of those are illegal, and you refused to cooperate with police when they asked you to disperse. That is not brutality. They are doing their jobs. :cop:

If you have any issues with police brutality, please report them immediately. If you wish to safely and legally protest the ARPD, please follow the laws regarding so. Have a nice day!

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Re: ARPD's Finest
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2010, 08:31:15 am »
I'm sorry to say, but the laws specifically state that protests are only legal and allowed if you follow the explicit rules on them. You didn't have a set date/time for start or finish, and you were blocking a public roadway. Both of those are illegal, and you refused to cooperate with police when they asked you to disperse. That is not brutality. They are doing their jobs. :cop:

If you have any issues with police brutality, please report them immediately. If you wish to safely and legally protest the ARPD, please follow the laws regarding so. Have a nice day!
All true.

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Offline Rabbit

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Re: ARPD's Finest
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2010, 09:05:54 am »
serves you right

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Offline GiacJr

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Re: ARPD's Finest
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2010, 09:24:47 am »
hahaha
2007 ranks - DPD Captain, DPD Chief.
2008 ranks - SAPD Deputy Chief, SAPD Sergeant, 207 topkop.
2009 ranks - SAPD Application Manager, DPD Sergeant, DPD Lieutenant, DPD Transfer Request Manager.
2010 ranks - DPD Captain, SWAT Associate.
2011 ranks - LSPD Officer, DPD Officer.
Medals - 4 Meritorious Service Medals, 3 Community Policing Medals, 1 Police Star Medal.

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Re: ARPD's Finest
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2010, 09:27:58 am »
Well Lt Wayne suspected you for Rioting, and it was not, so I suspected you for Impeding the Flow of Traffic, Valid. Congratulations :)

Offline Ryan_van_Buiten

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Re: ARPD's Finest
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2010, 09:44:27 am »
Gratz , i thought you could do better than just suspect and shoot non armed/moving suspects ...

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Re: ARPD's Finest
« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2010, 11:06:37 am »
  Wow Im sad I missed this. I can think of so many ways to solve that situation :(. I posted 2 on the youtube comment.
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Re: ARPD's Finest
« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2010, 11:08:35 am »
  Wow Im sad I missed this. I can think of so many ways to solve that situation :(. I posted 2 on the youtube comment.

Your comments rock :D

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Re: ARPD's Finest
« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2010, 12:29:39 pm »
Nice ones Jcstodds :)

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Re: ARPD's Finest
« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2010, 17:45:53 pm »
Im tired of this bad girling we get from criminals.
You guys are trying to provoke cops and get us to shoot you.
Then you have the nerve to say "You guys are cool! Shoot and kill us! Yay for RP!" When in reality NONE of you RP.
YOu force RP like a mother f**ker and say that us shooting you is bad?
Seriously Kid, Get the f**k over it...

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Re: ARPD's Finest
« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2010, 19:40:49 pm »
One thing I can say is .....justified kills

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Re: ARPD's Finest
« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2010, 20:08:49 pm »
Wait you forgot the first part of the video, where you were 10-15 guys with weapons walking on the streets, there was the deputy cheif, 2 Lt. and like 10 officers and couple of FBI agents present who all told you to put your weps away, like always you guys refused and when you got suspected for not complying, what did you do? put your hands up?

NO, you started shooting back, and took 2 FBI and 1 officers down, but luckly we had alot of cops and we killed all of you, then you come back again without weps, you were told to go away, and the rest is on the video.

So next time, just lisen to orders and you can avoid shit like this.
Retired Captain..

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Re: ARPD's Finest
« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2010, 20:31:05 pm »
I'm sorry to say, but the laws specifically state that protests are only legal and allowed if you follow the explicit rules on them. You didn't have a set date/time for start or finish, and you were blocking a public roadway. Both of those are illegal, and you refused to cooperate with police when they asked you to disperse. That is not brutality. They are doing their jobs. :cop:

If you have any issues with police brutality, please report them immediately. If you wish to safely and legally protest the ARPD, please follow the laws regarding so. Have a nice day!

That is where you go wrong, you're missing the point of this video and topic. Take a look at this excerpt of the laws

When the police officer is NOT allowed to use guns:

3) Against an unarmed attacker, the officer can use only hand to hand combat, or the
   Nightstick.          (except if the situation is like point (1) )
    
4) Against idle/not moving suspect, the officer is not allowed to use guns, only body force or nighstick is allowed.

(if the suspect is holding a weapon, but not moving, an other unit must cover the officer who is taking action)

5) Do not use firearms against a group (e.g Protestors). Firearms are to be used against a single suspect provided the weapon usage requirements are met.

This was definetley abused in the last clip.

Wait you forgot the first part of the video, where you were 10-15 guys with weapons walking on the streets, there was the deputy cheif, 2 Lt. and like 10 officers and couple of FBI agents present who all told you to put your weps away, like always you guys refused and when you got suspected for not complying, what did you do? put your hands up?

NO, you started shooting back, and took 2 FBI and 1 officers down, but luckly we had alot of cops and we killed all of you, then you come back again without weps, you were told to go away, and the rest is on the video.

So next time, just lisen to orders and you can avoid shit like this.

After being in the community for a long time, do you honestly expect us to comply? we're criminals, obviously we're gonna fight back. That's the difference, there are no set rules on me except the civilian laws, and by breaking them that's what puts us aside from civilians and makes us criminals, that's what gives you your job. But for cops, you have actually have laws that you MUST follow to not get fired from your job. These laws are broken every day, and no action is taken.

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Re: ARPD's Finest
« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2010, 20:36:46 pm »
I and the other SAPD Officers used Batons and Pepper Spray, I think it worked quite well actually.

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Re: ARPD's Finest
« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2010, 20:44:25 pm »
 for 3) Minorities with any weapon make the average cop nervous and 80% more likely to shoot in defence. Looking at the video, around 80% are shooting the criminals.

4) Suspects were not moving because they were dead. The shots being fired were simply to make sure.

5) The group consisted of suspects holding and shooting weapons. If no one in the group was shooting, then no one would have been shot.
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Re: ARPD's Finest
« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2010, 21:09:53 pm »
for 3) Minorities with any weapon make the average cop nervous and 80% more likely to shoot in defence. Looking at the video, around 80% are shooting the criminals.

4) Suspects were not moving because they were dead. The shots being fired were simply to make sure.

5) The group consisted of suspects holding and shooting weapons. If no one in the group was shooting, then no one would have been shot.

You've got it all wrong, I was in the group. The cops are the ones that shot first, we only shot in an act of self defence. AFTER the cops shot us.

Offline Boozman

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Re: ARPD's Finest
« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2010, 21:56:17 pm »
After being in the community for a long time, do you honestly expect us to comply? we're criminals, obviously we're gonna fight back..
Then don't f**king complain about it if your not going to comply.
You and your friends ignorance as criminals got you killed, and guess what? Its your f**king fault.
Don't put that on SAPD.

You and your video may now GTFO, thanks.

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Offline SKenney

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Re: ARPD's Finest
« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2010, 22:01:00 pm »
Quote from:  Current State Laws- Writen by Ex Chief Hank Rafferty
5.§ Right of Assembly

In the Unites Sates of Argonath, San Andreas state, every citizen has right for free assemblage.

-5.§A) Protesting

  If a group of civilians(at least 4 people) decides to protesting in public, the following requirement must come true.:
-The protesters can not block the public services working [Police Dept., Medical Dept., Fire Dept., Government] .
-The roads of San Andreas must be clear, and passable for traffic.
-The protesters can not hide their face.
-The protesters can not be armed with any weapon.
-The protesting date must be announced before 5 days to fulfilment.SA: Events and Winners
-The organizers must be named, and they must give clear reason for protesting.
-The starting, and the ending of the protesting must be announced to be dead on time.
-The protesting must be started and finished in the announced time.

Quote from:  Currently in Progress State Laws, Written by Deputy Chief Austin
5.§ Right of Assembly

In the Unites Sates of Argonath, San Andreas state, every citizen has right for free assemblage.

5.§A) Protesting

  If a group of civilians(at least 4 people) decides to protesting in public, the following requirement must be met:
-The protesters can not block the public services working [Police Dept., Medical Dept., Fire Dept., Government] .
-The roads of San Andreas must be clear, and passable for traffic.
-The protesters can not hide their face.
-The protesters can not be armed with any weapon.
-The protesting date must be announced before 5 days to fulfilment. SA:MP Events and Winners
-The organizers must be named, and they must give clear reason for protesting.
-The starting, and the ending of the protesting must be announced to be dead on time.
-The protesting must be started and finished in the announced time.
-The protest cannot be held when stated irresponsible or any other reason by court or law enforcements.  


Take a look at both of those. You did not follow any of that.

Nuff said.
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