Argonath RPG Police Department
General => General Discussion => Topic started by: FlameMan on March 11, 2012, 13:25:53 pm
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Due to some changes implemented by the Argonath Government authorities some experienced officers decided to leave.
There was a huge discussion at online chat today, and I know this topic is important for the SAPD members.
I have heard about some planned changes and those, which I heard of, were quite interesting. However, I do feel worried about the way of implementing changes. The informational policy should be clear in such cases. Those changes that have already been implemented, should be announced clearly.
I want you to remember, that SWAT is not everything, and you should not leave the force because of those changes. That's why I ask you guys to reconsider and perhaps discuss your issues with the particular authorities...
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Wise words.
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Didn't leave only beacuse of SWAT.
I got demoted from Sergeant to Officer when I'm active more then the whole command staff, working hard and shit and then getting demoted for no reason.
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Due to some changes implemented by the Argonath Government authorities some experienced officers decided to leave.
There was a huge discussion at online chat today, and I know this topic is important for the SAPD members.
I have heard about some planned changes and those, which I heard of, were quite interesting. However, I do feel worried about the way of implementing changes. The informational policy should be clear in such cases. Those changes that have already been implemented, should be announced clearly.
I want you to remember, that SWAT is not everything, and you should not leave the force because of those changes. That's why I ask you guys to reconsider and perhaps discuss your issues with the particular authorities...
The fact is : Ben got FIRED FROM SAPD for no obvious reason, then I had to ask people to find out I was also fired from SWAT and demoted to Officer without even knowing why. They fired 11 people from SWAT without telling them why. I don't like to be treated like shit, I worked hard for SAPD and they just throw you away like you are nothing for them. No thanks.
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Didn't leave only beacuse of SWAT.
I got demoted from Sergeant to Officer when I'm active more then the whole command staff, working hard and shit and then getting demoted for no reason.
I think your rank went down because of your transfer to lspd as you agreed to
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That is what I meant, speaking about the informational policy.
Those changes haven't been implemented perfectly but only those who make nothing make no mistakes. The biggest fault here is that the changes haven't been announced and clearly explained to public.
Believe it or not, time will show everything.
Just give it to yourself and to the authorities.
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The fact is : Ben got FIRED FROM SAPD for no obvious reason, then I had to ask people to find out I was also fired from SWAT and demoted to Officer without even knowing why. They fired 11 people from SWAT without telling them why. I don't like to be treated like shit, I worked hard for SAPD and they just throw you away like you are nothing for them. No thanks.
Or maybe you could had at least waited to hear the official announcement instead of just quitting. No ARPD Commissioner or President would be dumb enough to make so many demotions and dismissing many SWAT members for no reason.
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Ben was for the team, not an ass-licker. That's why he was fired.
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Didn't leave only beacuse of SWAT.
I got demoted from Sergeant to Officer when I'm active more then the whole command staff, working hard and shit and then getting demoted for no reason.
I think your rank went down because of your transfer to lspd as you agreed to
None informed me, as my transfer request said "Dependance on activity" and that doesn't explain why we were discharges frop SWAT.
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The fact is : Ben got FIRED FROM SAPD for no obvious reason, then I had to ask people to find out I was also fired from SWAT and demoted to Officer without even knowing why. They fired 11 people from SWAT without telling them why. I don't like to be treated like shit, I worked hard for SAPD and they just throw you away like you are nothing for them. No thanks.
Or maybe you could had at least waited to hear the official announcement instead of just quitting. No ARPD Commissioner or President would be dumb enough to make so many demotions and dismissing many SWAT members for no reason.
Hmm no, It's pretty obvious how the changes have been made. SWAT Cadet being promoted to Team Leader, SAPD Cadet going to Lt and SWAT Cmder, when you spent months of hard working and you are throw away like shit, I don't want to waste my time anymore for nothing.
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Hmm no, It's pretty obvious how the changes have been made. SWAT Cadet being promoted to Team Leader, SAPD Cadet going to Lt and SWAT Cmder, when you spent months of hard working and you are throw away like shit, I don't want to waste my time anymore for nothing.
Yes that is right, but do you really think Jaaskaa and Gandalf are that dumb to just do those actions for no reason? Clearly they had foreseen a lot of members resigning, but they also would had foreseen a better and bright future for SAPD for that cause. You already know what you are doing is immature and inappropriate. Just calm down and try to withdraw your resignations while you have your chance.
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Didn't leave only beacuse of SWAT.
I got demoted from Sergeant to Officer when I'm active more then the whole command staff, working hard and shit and the
n getting demoted for no reason.
I think your rank went down because of your transfer to lspd as you agreed to
None informed me, as my transfer request said "Dependance on activity" and that doesn't explain why we were discharges frop SWAT.
Yeah well as i said, Jaaskaa did such decision
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Jaaska must be proud of his great accomplishments, and creative decisions! What a great and wise person he is!
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Hmm no, It's pretty obvious how the changes have been made. SWAT Cadet being promoted to Team Leader, SAPD Cadet going to Lt and SWAT Cmder, when you spent months of hard working and you are throw away like shit, I don't want to waste my time anymore for nothing.
Yes that is right, but do you really think Jaaskaa and Gandalf are that dumb to just do those actions for no reason? Clearly they had foreseen a lot of members resigning, but they also would had foreseen a better and bright future for SAPD for that cause. You already know what you are doing is immature and inappropriate. Just calm down and try to withdraw your resignations while you have your chance.
Ey, bolbol. Please don't talk to Cyril that way show some respect. We all resigned for a reason and if you don't know or don't know what has happened. Show some respect nigga!
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f**king finally.
Jaaska must be proud of his great accomplishments, and creative decisions! What a great and wise person he is!
Stop being such a narcissist; your accomplishments are in no way comparable to those of Jaaskaa's. And before you (or your colleagues) decide to call me an 'ass-licker', take a look at what he's done in his career. You're pathetic.
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Ey, bolbol. Please don't talk to Cyril that way show some respect. We all resigned for a reason and if you don't know or don't know what has happened. Show some respect nigga!
:lol:
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The loyal stay.
The non loyal leave.
The strong stay.
The weak leave.
The ones willing to enhance change stay.
The ones who complain without knowing what happened leave without explanation.
Change is happening, only the loyal and strong will succeed.
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Jones, the other way of looking at it is that a lot of people have just received a slap in the face from the ARPD Commissioner, and want to prove a point.
Perhaps you don't realise this, but it makes you feel bloody shamed when you are fired or "demoted".
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My point still stands.
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Jones, the other way of looking at it is that a lot of people have just received a slap in the face from the ARPD Commissioner, and want to prove a point.
Perhaps you don't realise this, but it makes you feel bloody shamed when you are fired or "demoted".
ben if you want to say they got slapped read jaaskaa's sig
"because if I slap you, it will feel like you just kissed a freight train."
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Jones, the other way of looking at it is that a lot of people have just received a slap in the face from the ARPD Commissioner, and want to prove a point.
Perhaps you don't realise this, but it makes you feel bloody shamed when you are fired or "demoted".
ben if you want to say they got slapped read jaaskaa's sig, it's more than.
"because if I slap you, it will feel like you just kissed a freight train."
:lol:
My point still stands.
Maybe so, but these boys know where their loyalties lie. I for one don't come on Argonath for the ARPD Commissioner...I'm there for me and my friends, who happen to be in the SAPD. ;)
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f**king finally.
Jaaska must be proud of his great accomplishments, and creative decisions! What a great and wise person he is!
Stop being such a narcissist; your accomplishments are in no way comparable to those of Jaaskaa's. And before you (or your colleagues) decide to call me an 'ass-licker', take a look at what he's done in his career. You're pathetic.
How much did Jaaska pay you? I think he's gonna promote you to Deputy chief for those great words of yours.
And hey, nice attitude for a great SAPD Officer, you're really professional with those words of yours, and you deserve a promotion.
Lol f**k off.
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We already have a great Deputy Chief...which is one of the reasons I'm not raging like I used to :redface:
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My point still stands.
Maybe so, but these boys know where their loyalties lie. I for one don't come on Argonath for the ARPD Commissioner...I'm there for me and my friends, who happen to be in the SAPD. ;)
They obviously don't know where their loyalties stand Ben..
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How much did Jaaska pay you? I think he's gonna promote you to Deputy chief for those great words of yours.
And hey, nice attitude for a great SAPD Officer, you're really professional with those words of yours, and you deserve a promotion.
Lol f**k off.
Your lack of respect and knowledge amuse me. I'll be waiting right here when you children decide to come back. ;)
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They obviously don't know where their loyalties stand Ben..
Consider the variables. Many have been demoted, and most are angry. When I was fired I wasn't thinking straight. Give it time to settle.
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f**king finally.
Jaaska must be proud of his great accomplishments, and creative decisions! What a great and wise person he is!
Stop being such a narcissist; your accomplishments are in no way comparable to those of Jaaskaa's. And before you (or your colleagues) decide to call me an 'ass-licker', take a look at what he's done in his career. You're pathetic.
How much did Jaaska pay you? I think he's gonna promote you to Deputy chief for those great words of yours.
And hey, nice attitude for a great SAPD Officer, you're really professional with those words of yours, and you deserve a promotion.
Lol f**k off.
Just look at this post and your behavior in-game. You already know why you were demoted / dismissed.
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f**king finally.
Jaaska must be proud of his great accomplishments, and creative decisions! What a great and wise person he is!
Stop being such a narcissist; your accomplishments are in no way comparable to those of Jaaskaa's. And before you (or your colleagues) decide to call me an 'ass-licker', take a look at what he's done in his career. You're pathetic.
How much did Jaaska pay you? I think he's gonna promote you to Deputy chief for those great words of yours.
And hey, nice attitude for a great SAPD Officer, you're really professional with those words of yours, and you deserve a promotion.
Lol f**k off.
Just look at this post and your behavior in-game. You already know why you were demoted / dismissed.
Demoted? Dismissed? Kid, I never got demoted, I resigned.
Go get your facts straight :lol:
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Sad to see you left George.
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They obviously don't know where their loyalties stand Ben..
Consider the variables. Many have been demoted, and most are angry. When I was fired I wasn't thinking straight. Give it time to settle.
If they were loyal to a certain department, they would of waited for an answer, not went with the 'mainstream' and resigned without knowing the truth.
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How much did Jaaska pay you? I think he's gonna promote you to Deputy chief for those great words of yours.
And hey, nice attitude for a great SAPD Officer, you're really professional with those words of yours, and you deserve a promotion.
Lol f**k off.
Your lack of respect and knowledge amuse me. I'll be waiting right here when you children decide to come back. ;)
Lack of respect? Who was the first posting and talking shit? Who provoked? You provoked me, and nice attitude you got there, great attitude for a sapd officer.
I'll stop posting, and you should as well, and as Chief Pancher said:
Cane and Morias, you are close to get fired from the force for shitting on former SAPD members and having some lack of respect. Behave quick or you will be out.
So I think you should drop it and be smart ;)
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Provoking = Forum Warning
Multiple instances of provoking = Topic locked
Keep it calm and civil, yes I am sure a lot of you are upset, angry frustrated, whatever feelings are going through you right now, just try to convey them in a way that does not offend other members.
Let the discussion remain open and free to all.
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The changes that have been made so far look very promising and are a huge step forward. I thank Jaaskaa and everyone else who is responsible for the changes that have already been made, and I hope that the changes to come will be as revolutionary and wise as the ones that were made.
The beginning of where we left off.
For -some- who decided to leave or were forced to leave : Stay polite and try to represent your views and opinions in a mature way, not like this.
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There will be a triple change this weekend, at different levels. You might wake up a morning with a different rank... I am not sorry about it, because I am only doing my job. Do yours and we will live happy forever. Yes you might get angry or sad and might want to quit SAPD. But think about it! It is not because your rank was removed today that it means we don't want you there. It will be removed because for the moment we can't keep you in the position. Your department might get altered or dissolved. Expect it. You might get promoted too. If needs arise.
Jaaskaa isn't the ARPD Commisioner for no reason. He has done remarkable things and these changes are not because Jaaskaa thinks it's fun. The changes is done for reasons, reasons that can stay unknown or be present, not our choice.
As Jaaskaa said, "The very least I can expect is your support. We shouldn't stop in front of a challenge, we should work together to get the best out of it. ". Currently your are showing him your finger and says he's shit. Indeed, it's not fun to get demoted but by my experiences with Jaaskaa isn't the demotions unjustified.
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Fellas, if it wasn't for a promise I made regarding DPD a long time ago, I'd be posting a transfer request to SFPD to help them out. Stay loyal, and Jaaskaa will recognise that. Who knows? Maybe he demoted people he wanted to promote, to test if they were actually loyal?
Offered assistance to SFPD.
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As a SAPD Officer (or above)... one of the first responsibilities you have is to lead by example. Everyone should look up to SAPD Officers in terms of respect, experience and skill and SAPD command should be selfless, responsible and provide guidance to the whole of SAPD.
And what I see, is quitting and giving up because of demotion of a rank or award or whatever.
Way to lead by example there guys... good message being given out. :roll: So I'm thinking at the moment, if you left cause of this, then you most likely did not have the appropriate qualities or you had a bad attitude towards your rank.
But anyway. As a leader you should not work for yourself, you should work for everyone else in SAPD. So really I do not understand why everyone is so upset. Nothing has changed, you can still form SWAT groups, you can still lead - or are you scared you cannot lead unless you have a shiny rank? :trust:
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As a SAPD Officer (or above)... one of the first responsibilities you have is to lead by example. Everyone should look up to SAPD Officers in terms of respect, experience and skill and SAPD command should be selfless, responsible and provide guidance to the whole of SAPD.
And what I see, is quitting and giving up because of demotion of a rank or award or whatever.
Way to lead by example there guys... good message being given out. :roll: So I'm thinking at the moment, if you left cause of this, then you most likely did not have the appropriate qualities or you had a bad attitude towards your rank.
But anyway. As a leader you should not work for yourself, you should work for everyone else in SAPD. So really I do not understand why everyone is so upset. Nothing has changed, you can still form SWAT groups, you can still lead - or are you scared you cannot lead unless you have a shiny rank? :trust:
You can form groups as ARPD Officer, of course.
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Did all the people who complain about not being in formed read the topic 'incoming' ? If not, why do you not read important information. If you did , why do you complain about things not being announced ?
Irony: people leave SAPD because of changes and play as ARPD officer, being directly at the command of the person whose actions made them resign.
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Stop moaning, you accepted Jaaskaa's conditions and you Welcomed him in the first place with HAPPINESS. And now you start wondering why? You accepted the conditions, you accept the consequences. Every suspension or punishement has its own reason, you know.
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Irony: people leave SAPD because of changes and play as ARPD officer, being directly at the command of the person whose actions made them resign.
Good point, well made. Forgot about that!
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Irony: people leave SAPD because of changes and play as ARPD officer, being directly at the command of the person whose actions made them resign.
As ARPD Officer, we can make "Division", which we cannot in SAPD. Therefore, we don't have choice.
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As a SAPD Officer (or above)... one of the first responsibilities you have is to lead by example. Everyone should look up to SAPD Officers in terms of respect, experience and skill and SAPD command should be selfless, responsible and provide guidance to the whole of SAPD.
And what I see, is quitting and giving up because of demotion of a rank or award or whatever.
Way to lead by example there guys... good message being given out. :roll: So I'm thinking at the moment, if you left cause of this, then you most likely did not have the appropriate qualities or you had a bad attitude towards your rank.
But anyway. As a leader you should not work for yourself, you should work for everyone else in SAPD. So really I do not understand why everyone is so upset. Nothing has changed, you can still form SWAT groups, you can still lead - or are you scared you cannot lead unless you have a shiny rank? :trust:
You can form groups as ARPD Officer, of course.
Very true..
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Irony: people leave SAPD because of changes and play as ARPD officer, being directly at the command of the person whose actions made them resign.
As ARPD Officer, we can make "Division", which we cannot in SAPD. Therefore, we don't have choice.
Rumours have in the future you will not have a choice at all.
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Did all the people who complain about not being in formed read the topic 'incoming' ? If not, why do you not read important information. If you did , why do you complain about things not being announced ?
Irony: people leave SAPD because of changes and play as ARPD officer, being directly at the command of the person whose actions made them resign.
SAPD Was good before this changes, i want to see now, who will chatch the criminals, with no SAPD team, hard working guys who resigned...
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Irony: people leave SAPD because of changes and play as ARPD officer, being directly at the command of the person whose actions made them resign.
As ARPD Officer, we can make "Division", which we cannot in SAPD. Therefore, we don't have choice.
Rumours have in the future you will not have a choice at all.
For now, we have choice, we live in the present, not in the future.
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Irony: people leave SAPD because of changes and play as ARPD officer, being directly at the command of the person whose actions made them resign.
As ARPD Officer, we can make "Division", which we cannot in SAPD. Therefore, we don't have choice.
Rumours have in the future you will not have a choice at all.
For now, we have choice, we live in the present, not in the future.
Your choice is to work directly for Jaaskaa with as reason he demoted you ?
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Did all the people who complain about not being in formed read the topic 'incoming' ? If not, why do you not read important information. If you did , why do you complain about things not being announced ?
Irony: people leave SAPD because of changes and play as ARPD officer, being directly at the command of the person whose actions made them resign.
SAPD Was good before this changes, i want to see now, who will chatch the criminals, with no SAPD team, hard working guys who resigned...
Just because you worked your ass off to catch suspects do NOT justify the reason of removal / demotion.
And hey, look, just because you resigned the SAPD will be weakened and will be unable to perform? Well, think again mate :)
You do realize your impatient and immature acts won't get you anywhere and won't deal any type of damage?
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I suppose if you look at it this way:
Within the SAPD you have command staff who may disagree with APD Commissioners...
by resigning, you leave yourself to the full force of the Commissioner!
No offence to Jaaskaa of course, I simply mean that if you don't agree with Jaaskaa, its safer to stay than go :lol:
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Did all the people who complain about not being in formed read the topic 'incoming' ? If not, why do you not read important information. If you did , why do you complain about things not being announced ?
Irony: people leave SAPD because of changes and play as ARPD officer, being directly at the command of the person whose actions made them resign.
SAPD Was good before this changes, i want to see now, who will chatch the criminals, with no SAPD team, hard working guys who resigned...
Just because you worked your ass off to catch suspects do NOT justify the reason of removal / demotion.
And hey, look, just because you resigned the SAPD will be weakened and will be unable to perform? Well, think again mate :)
You do realize your impatient and immature acts won't get you anywhere and won't deal any type of damage?
Who answered to the C30 ? Who answered to the NRG's ? Who answered to the mass cop killers ? Who answered to the Code Purple ? Who saved other officer's life during months ? Obviously not you.
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SAPD Was good before this changes, i want to see now, who will chatch the criminals, with no SAPD team, hard working guys who resigned...
Again with the narcissistic comments. You (the people who decided to resign) were not, and never will be, the entire organization.
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I suppose if you look at it this way:
Within the SAPD you have command staff who may disagree with APD Commissioners...
by resigning, you leave yourself to the full force of the Commissioner!
No offence to Jaaskaa of course, I simply mean that if you don't agree with Jaaskaa, its safer to stay than go :lol:
Actually we can't disagree, whatever the ARPD Commissioners says, its an order towards us and we don't have any saying in it, we perform it even if we don't or we do like it.
Both ways you have to follow the ARPD Commissioner.
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Did all the people who complain about not being in formed read the topic 'incoming' ? If not, why do you not read important information. If you did , why do you complain about things not being announced ?
Irony: people leave SAPD because of changes and play as ARPD officer, being directly at the command of the person whose actions made them resign.
SAPD Was good before this changes, i want to see now, who will chatch the criminals, with no SAPD team, hard working guys who resigned...
Just because you worked your ass off to catch suspects do NOT justify the reason of removal / demotion.
And hey, look, just because you resigned the SAPD will be weakened and will be unable to perform? Well, think again mate :)
You do realize your impatient and immature acts won't get you anywhere and won't deal any type of damage?
Who answered to the C30 ? Who answered to the NRG's ? Who answered to the mass cop killers ? Who answered to the Code Purple ? Who saved other officer's life during months ? Obviously not you.
Your work does not justify the reason of demotion / removal.
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I suppose if you look at it this way:
Within the SAPD you have command staff who may disagree with APD Commissioners...
by resigning, you leave yourself to the full force of the Commissioner!
No offence to Jaaskaa of course, I simply mean that if you don't agree with Jaaskaa, its safer to stay than go :lol:
Actually we can't disagree, whatever the ARPD Commissioners says, its an order towards us and we don't have any saying in it, we perform it even if we don't or we do like it.
Both ways you have to follow the ARPD Commissioner.
Correction, maybe you misunderstood. Presuming there was some kind of discussion...there is more people who could potentially try to talk with the Commissioner, who he is likely to listen to.
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Did all the people who complain about not being in formed read the topic 'incoming' ? If not, why do you not read important information. If you did , why do you complain about things not being announced ?
Irony: people leave SAPD because of changes and play as ARPD officer, being directly at the command of the person whose actions made them resign.
SAPD Was good before this changes, i want to see now, who will chatch the criminals, with no SAPD team, hard working guys who resigned...
Just because you worked your ass off to catch suspects do NOT justify the reason of removal / demotion.
And hey, look, just because you resigned the SAPD will be weakened and will be unable to perform? Well, think again mate :)
You do realize your impatient and immature acts won't get you anywhere and won't deal any type of damage?
What the hell are you talking about? SAPD can't even stop a big C30/Bank Robbery/Kidnap without returning at least 3/4 times
Only team that could was SWAT under Ben's lead
Now Chase is commander of SWAT? What a joke, my gang of 8 friends back in early 2010 raped him and 20 other cops under his lead at FBI HQ when he was FBI he had to reutrn 3 times before any of us died
Get rid of the guys who actually do work, who can actually take down criminals and replace them with my friends, very good
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The funny thing is....
Previous SAPD Officers who resign because they want to become ARPD Officers still work under Jaaskaa as he's an ARPD Commisioner.
You create new groups are you still working under Jaaskaas' lead, either if you like it or not.
By resigning are you only damaging your self, Jaaskaa still have the decision about you as an ARPD Commisioner.
Epic fail is an epic fail..
EDIT: I saw that Ronnel was before me... :neutral:
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What the hell are you talking about? SAPD can't even stop a big C30/Bank Robbery/Kidnap without returning at least 3/4 times
Only team that could was SWAT under Ben's lead
Now Chase is commander of SWAT? What a joke, my gang of 8 friends back in early 2010 raped him and 20 other cops under his lead at FBI HQ when he was FBI he had to reutrn 3 times before any of us died
Get rid of the guys who actually do work, who can actually take down criminals and replace them with my friends, very good
Who said the reason of their demotion / removal was due to lack of work?
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I suppose if you look at it this way:
Within the SAPD you have command staff who may disagree with APD Commissioners...
by resigning, you leave yourself to the full force of the Commissioner!
No offence to Jaaskaa of course, I simply mean that if you don't agree with Jaaskaa, its safer to stay than go :lol:
Actually we can't disagree, whatever the ARPD Commissioners says, its an order towards us and we don't have any saying in it, we perform it even if we don't or we do like it.
Both ways you have to follow the ARPD Commissioner.
You can disagree and placve objectiojns. There has been room given to do this, and the objections which were presented have been weighed. Once a decision is taken, we expect to act as a team.
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The funny thing is....
Previous SAPD Officers who resign because they want to become ARPD Officers still work under Jaaskaa as he's an ARPD Commisioner.
You create new groups are you still working under Jaaskaas' lead, either if you like it or not.
By resigning are you only damaging your self, Jaaskaa still have the decision about you as an ARPD Commisioner.
Epic fail is an epic fail..
EDIT: I saw that Ronnel was before me... :neutral:
Good, so we'll get perm copbanned for working as ARPD Officers ?
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What the hell are you talking about? SAPD can't even stop a big C30/Bank Robbery/Kidnap without returning at least 3/4 times
Only team that could was SWAT under Ben's lead
Now Chase is commander of SWAT? What a joke, my gang of 8 friends back in early 2010 raped him and 20 other cops under his lead at FBI HQ when he was FBI he had to reutrn 3 times before any of us died
Get rid of the guys who actually do work, who can actually take down criminals and replace them with my friends, very good
Who said the reason of their demotion / removal was due to lack of work?
Did I said that was the reason? No
Those who were removed actually did work
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The funny thing is....
Previous SAPD Officers who resign because they want to become ARPD Officers still work under Jaaskaa as he's an ARPD Commisioner.
You create new groups are you still working under Jaaskaas' lead, either if you like it or not.
By resigning are you only damaging your self, Jaaskaa still have the decision about you as an ARPD Commisioner.
Epic fail is an epic fail..
EDIT: I saw that Ronnel was before me... :neutral:
Good, so we'll get perm copbanned for working as ARPD Officers ?
That is an option.
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Did I said that was the reason? No
Those who were removed actually did work
You did not say but you implied.
You are not understanding what you are saying.. For example, a guy works his ass off but then he has a really shitty attitude, he is fired. So then people moan because of his/her work?
I'm not saying any body has a shitty attitude, it's just an example.
For god sake, the work DOES NOT justify the reason of demotion / removal. Think about it yourself in a calm mood, and threatening SAPD by resigning won't work, because no body in SAPD, will feel bad they can't catch suspects or anything.
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Also could you tell me why half the promotions are not posted, and there silent. All should know who is promoted to what, and I want to know how Chase gets promoted from Cadet to Lieutenant? Seriously, also maybe you should post the suspensions and demotions...
The ones who did the work were effective, if you see the SAPD Cases & Reports, thats how effective the S.W.A.T team, and they get removed and demoted for no apparent reason. The team was effective and they are gone, also they weren't even told about being removed nor discussed it...
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Gandalf, you have a lots of ARPD Officers abusing their rights all the day in the server etc, and almost nothing is done and you want to perm copban an ex-SWAT team who wants to continue to do their job and save officer's life in an effective way ?
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Well, SWAT was usefull, but i am sure Jaaska is planing something instead of it. He didn't do all this for everyone to hate him. Just standby.
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Also could you tell me why half the promotions are not posted, and there silent. All should know who is promoted to what, and I want to know how Chase gets promoted from Cadet to Lieutenant? Seriously, also maybe you should post the suspensions and demotions...
The 'silent' case is not such a problem, people are creating a drama out of it for no reason
The ones who did the work were effective, if you see the SAPD Cases & Reports, thats how effective the S.W.A.T team, and they get removed and demoted for no apparent reason. The team was effective and they are gone, also they weren't even told about being removed nor discussed it...
See the above example.
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Gandalf, you have a lots of ARPD Officers abusing their rights all the day in the server etc, and almost nothing is done and you want to perm copban an ex-SWAT team who wants to continue to do their job and save officer's life in an effective way ?
Each case is dealt individually, do not expect everyone to have equal permissions. And, ARPD and SAPD are groups that have a LOT in different
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Also could you tell me why half the promotions are not posted, and there silent. All should know who is promoted to what, and I want to know how Chase gets promoted from Cadet to Lieutenant? Seriously, also maybe you should post the suspensions and demotions...
The 'silent' case is not such a problem, people are creating a drama out of it for no reason
The ones who did the work were effective, if you see the SAPD Cases & Reports, thats how effective the S.W.A.T team, and they get removed and demoted for no apparent reason. The team was effective and they are gone, also they weren't even told about being removed nor discussed it...
See the above example.
Isn't S.W.A.T suppose to be a effective and elite team, well currently you destroyed the elite and effective team. I don't care about your example I want to know why they are removed with a notice, and nothing is posted in Suspension or Demotion. They should let the PUBLIC whats happening not hiding it behind there backs.
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Isn't S.W.A.T suppose to be a effective and elite team, well currently you destroyed the elite and effective team. I don't care about your example I want to know why they are removed with a notice, and nothing is posted in Suspension or Demotion. They should let the PUBLIC whats happening not hiding it behind there backs.
Although, a new team can be created, and the 'hide behind back' is not such a issue than what it's being created to.
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Lol, Jaaska is really doing great improvements, I'm sure he is, and he's making SAPD and SWAT better and better by promoting the chief of LU "Jenn Kolta" to SAPD Officer, and to SWAT! I never saw Jenn IG! I never saw Jenn doing any police work in SAMP! How does a non experience person get SAPD officer rank without EVEN applying for SAPD and without EVEN being accepted as SAPD Cadet? Look with your own eyes, go to the SAPD member list if you think I'm lying, Jenn kolta SAPD Officer and SWAT.
Yeaaaa, those "promotions" u guys call are really fair. What's the difference between a person who applys for SAPD and after waiting several months to get even accepted as cadet and then works his ass off and then gets accepted as SAPD officer, and with a person who didn't even apply to SAPD, and isn't even there IG, and gets automatically promoted to SAPD Officer and gets SWAT?
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Resignations were expected. So to make an announcement and then to have make 20 follow-ups because of resignations and people being changed around as a result of the resignations would not be efficient.
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Lol, Jaaska is really doing great improvements, I'm sure he is, and he's making SAPD and SWAT better and better by promoting the chief of LU "Jenn Kolta" to SAPD Officer, and to SWAT! I never saw Jenn IG! I never saw Jenn doing any police work in SAMP! How does a non experience person get SAPD officer rank without EVEN applying for SAPD and without EVEN being accepted as SAPD Cadet? Look with your own eyes, go to the SAPD member list if you think I'm lying, Jenn kolta SAPD Officer and SWAT.
Yeaaaa, those "promotions" u guys call are really fair. What's the difference between a person who applys for SAPD and after waiting several months to get even accepted as cadet and then works his ass off and then gets accepted as SAPD officer, and with a person who didn't even apply to SAPD, and isn't even there IG, and gets automatically promoted to SAPD Officer and gets SWAT?
Ok, no offense intended but everything in this post is bullshit.
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Gandalf, you have a lots of ARPD Officers abusing their rights all the day in the server etc, and almost nothing is done and you want to perm copban an ex-SWAT team who wants to continue to do their job and save officer's life in an effective way ?
Those who try to break rules when they clearly know what is expected of them will be dealt with ahrshly.
Those who break rules because nobody took the time to explain them can count on some lenience.
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Isn't S.W.A.T suppose to be a effective and elite team, well currently you destroyed the elite and effective team. I don't care about your example I want to know why they are removed with a notice, and nothing is posted in Suspension or Demotion. They should let the PUBLIC whats happening not hiding it behind there backs.
Although, a new team can be created, and the 'hide behind back' is not such a issue than what it's being created to.
Yeah you can make a new team, it's easy to make a new team. It's harder to make it effective.
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Isn't S.W.A.T suppose to be a effective and elite team, well currently you destroyed the elite and effective team. I don't care about your example I want to know why they are removed with a notice, and nothing is posted in Suspension or Demotion. They should let the PUBLIC whats happening not hiding it behind there backs.
Although, a new team can be created, and the 'hide behind back' is not such a issue than what it's being created to.
Yeah you can make a new team, it's easy to make a new team. It's harder to make it effective.
So are you trying to threaten SAPD because you they won't be able to make a team because of the recent resignations? :)
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Jaaskaa did have a very good purpose for what is happening to you all and what is to come. He has a plan and he will put it to the test. None of you should be "OMG I WAS FIREDDD FOR NO REASON!!! DAFUQ IS DIS SH*T??!?". You all knew what was going to happen to you sooner or later. It was just a matter of time. Those that have been demoted/fired, Jaaskaa is just seeing the week and the strong. Those who removed obviously had no good reason to be in SWAT/SAPD. Those who were demoted, he just wanted to weed out the strong and the weak. For those who resigned, you are now the weak. You are not loyal, you do not stand by your fellow teammates. Those who are strong, and who did not resign; I bid you good luck for now and into the future. Jaaskaa has some very nice things to come along. But before it will get pretty, it will get ugly. Very ugly. This was only a scratch on the surface on what he is going to do/will do. I am disappointed in some of you that you resigned. Such a pity. But some of you that did resign, I'm telling truth, I sure am glad you did so. End word; Expect more to come, he didn't do this for nothing, he did this for the better.
Regards,
Leroy Kolta
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Gandalf, you have a lots of ARPD Officers abusing their rights all the day in the server etc, and almost nothing is done and you want to perm copban an ex-SWAT team who wants to continue to do their job and save officer's life in an effective way ?
Those who try to break rules when they clearly know what is expected of them will be dealt with ahrshly.
Those who break rules because nobody took the time to explain them can count on some lenience.
Who said we were going to break server rules ? We just want to keep doing our old-SWAT job as freecop. Take a look at the SAPD Cases & Reports and you can't tell me we were doing a shitty work or we didn't fit this position..
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Lol, Jaaska is really doing great improvements, I'm sure he is, and he's making SAPD and SWAT better and better by promoting the chief of LU "Jenn Kolta" to SAPD Officer, and to SWAT! I never saw Jenn IG! I never saw Jenn doing any police work in SAMP! How does a non experience person get SAPD officer rank without EVEN applying for SAPD and without EVEN being accepted as SAPD Cadet? Look with your own eyes, go to the SAPD member list if you think I'm lying, Jenn kolta SAPD Officer and SWAT.
Yeaaaa, those "promotions" u guys call are really fair. What's the difference between a person who applys for SAPD and after waiting several months to get even accepted as cadet and then works his ass off and then gets accepted as SAPD officer, and with a person who didn't even apply to SAPD, and isn't even there IG, and gets automatically promoted to SAPD Officer and gets SWAT?
Ok, no offense intended but everything in this post is bullshit.
"Everything" ? Oh please Mr.Perfect, tell us why Jenn Kolta has the SAPD Officer rank and SWAT rank?
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Gandalf, you have a lots of ARPD Officers abusing their rights all the day in the server etc, and almost nothing is done and you want to perm copban an ex-SWAT team who wants to continue to do their job and save officer's life in an effective way ?
Those who try to break rules when they clearly know what is expected of them will be dealt with ahrshly.
Those who break rules because nobody took the time to explain them can count on some lenience.
Who said we were going to break server rules ? We just want to keep doing our old-SWAT job as freecop. Take a look at the SAPD Cases & Reports and you can't tell me we were doing a shitty work or we didn't fit this position..
And if you operate as freecop in the same way as SWAT without being called, you might be copbanned.
Admins will be notified to watch such groups closely and not give them any room.
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When will the official announcement come to public Ronnel?
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Lol, Jaaska is really doing great improvements, I'm sure he is, and he's making SAPD and SWAT better and better by promoting the chief of LU "Jenn Kolta" to SAPD Officer, and to SWAT! I never saw Jenn IG! I never saw Jenn doing any police work in SAMP! How does a non experience person get SAPD officer rank without EVEN applying for SAPD and without EVEN being accepted as SAPD Cadet? Look with your own eyes, go to the SAPD member list if you think I'm lying, Jenn kolta SAPD Officer and SWAT.
Yeaaaa, those "promotions" u guys call are really fair. What's the difference between a person who applys for SAPD and after waiting several months to get even accepted as cadet and then works his ass off and then gets accepted as SAPD officer, and with a person who didn't even apply to SAPD, and isn't even there IG, and gets automatically promoted to SAPD Officer and gets SWAT?
Ok, no offense intended but everything in this post is bullshit.
"Everything" ? Oh please Mr.Perfect, tell us why Jenn Kolta has the SAPD Officer rank and SWAT rank?
Ok, i'll take that as a compliment, thank you.
Useless comments apart, the command must have foreseen better changes from her side in SAPD with that rank.
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I am not going to discuss the state SWAT was and is in, because that will end wrong and and spoil the whole topic, but I will say the following :
The purpose of roleplay organisations like SWAT, should never be to focus on the goal. It's all about the execution and how it's done. The whole idea is to roleplay. Every group with weapons can kill a few suspects and neutralize kidnapping, but it's all about how you do it. The whole idea of roleplay, Argonath and communities in general, is to play together, and that happens during the roleplay. A kidnap, for example, can end in the same, yet different way.
1. The hostage was neutralized and the suspects were killed. The criminal roleplayers are not happy with the outcome, but nonetheless, enjoyed the roleplay and effort that was put inside of it by both parties. Suspects enjoyed it and the SAPD enjoyed it.
2. The hostage was neutralized and the suspects were killed. The criminal roleplayers are not happy with the way it went, getting shot at almost immediatly without any proper communication whatsoever. Their roleplay goal was blown to pieces, and so was their time and good mood. The SAPD members are happy with the roleplay outcome, but are also slightly annoyed by the suspects' reaction through mainchat, for example.
The first one is what we should('ve) be(en) aiming for, and it requires cooperation from both parties. However, the SAPD plays the main role, and ultimately decided how it ends. The above is just an example, but it is very close to reality, and one will be able to puzzle out for himself, why these changes have been made, and what's going to happen..
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SAPD Was good before this changes, i want to see now, who will chatch the criminals, with no SAPD team, hard working guys who resigned...
Again with the narcissistic comments. You (the people who decided to resign) were not, and never will be, the entire organization.
Cane, stop with this comments, you're pissing me of.
I dont see you work on the field, you're like those people who get dark blue name and sit all the day talking in main chat.
Start working bro, get a life and stop posting stupid things
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Jaaskaa did have a very good purpose for what is happening to you all and what is to come. He has a plan and he will put it to the test. None of you should be "OMG I WAS FIREDDD FOR NO REASON!!! DAFUQ IS DIS SH*T??!?". You all knew what was going to happen to you sooner or later. It was just a matter of time. Those that have been demoted/fired, Jaaskaa is just seeing the week and the strong. Those who removed obviously had no good reason to be in SWAT/SAPD. Those who were demoted, he just wanted to weed out the strong and the weak. For those who resigned, you are now the weak. You are not loyal, you do not stand by your fellow teammates. Those who are strong, and who did not resign; I bid you good luck for now and into the future. Jaaskaa has some very nice things to come along. But before it will get pretty, it will get ugly. Very ugly. This was only a scratch on the surface on what he is going to do/will do. I am disappointed in some of you that you resigned. Such a pity. But some of you that did resign, I'm telling truth, I sure am glad you did so. End word; Expect more to come, he didn't do this for nothing, he did this for the better.
Regards,
Leroy Kolta
Exactly.
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When will the official announcement come to public Ronnel?
When the situation is clear. Perhaps some officers here will start using their big head soon as well.
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Lol, Jaaska is really doing great improvements, I'm sure he is, and he's making SAPD and SWAT better and better by promoting the chief of LU "Jenn Kolta" to SAPD Officer, and to SWAT! I never saw Jenn IG! I never saw Jenn doing any police work in SAMP! How does a non experience person get SAPD officer rank without EVEN applying for SAPD and without EVEN being accepted as SAPD Cadet? Look with your own eyes, go to the SAPD member list if you think I'm lying, Jenn kolta SAPD Officer and SWAT.
Yeaaaa, those "promotions" u guys call are really fair. What's the difference between a person who applys for SAPD and after waiting several months to get even accepted as cadet and then works his ass off and then gets accepted as SAPD officer, and with a person who didn't even apply to SAPD, and isn't even there IG, and gets automatically promoted to SAPD Officer and gets SWAT?
Ok, no offense intended but everything in this post is bullshit.
"Everything" ? Oh please Mr.Perfect, tell us why Jenn Kolta has the SAPD Officer rank and SWAT rank?
Ok, i'll take that as a compliment, thank you.
Useless comments apart, the command must have foreseen better changes from her side in SAPD with that rank.
What is your non sense? Are you blind? Do you think a non experience person who isn't IG, and who got promoted to SAPD Officer right away and SWAT is fair? Woww are you brain washed or something? Dudeee, SWAT is about an elite and professional team, how does a person who is new to SAMP gets SAPD Officer and SWAT rank?
Ofcourse you don't have common sense, I just knew that you're sabreman, so please don't force me to say stuff that I would not like you to see. It's shocking that you come against me after what everything I did for you.
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Lol, Jaaska is really doing great improvements, I'm sure he is, and he's making SAPD and SWAT better and better by promoting the chief of LU "Jenn Kolta" to SAPD Officer, and to SWAT! I never saw Jenn IG! I never saw Jenn doing any police work in SAMP! How does a non experience person get SAPD officer rank without EVEN applying for SAPD and without EVEN being accepted as SAPD Cadet? Look with your own eyes, go to the SAPD member list if you think I'm lying, Jenn kolta SAPD Officer and SWAT.
Yeaaaa, those "promotions" u guys call are really fair. What's the difference between a person who applys for SAPD and after waiting several months to get even accepted as cadet and then works his ass off and then gets accepted as SAPD officer, and with a person who didn't even apply to SAPD, and isn't even there IG, and gets automatically promoted to SAPD Officer and gets SWAT?
Ok, no offense intended but everything in this post is bullshit.
"Everything" ? Oh please Mr.Perfect, tell us why Jenn Kolta has the SAPD Officer rank and SWAT rank?
Showed the necessary skills prior to all of this. Has shown loyalty, dedication, teamwork abilities, leadership, and was the right person for the job.
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The funny thing is....
Previous SAPD Officers who resign because they want to become ARPD Officers still work under Jaaskaa as he's an ARPD Commisioner.
You create new groups are you still working under Jaaskaas' lead, either if you like it or not.
By resigning are you only damaging your self, Jaaskaa still have the decision about you as an ARPD Commisioner.
Epic fail is an epic fail..
EDIT: I saw that Ronnel was before me... :neutral:
Good, so we'll get perm copbanned for working as ARPD Officers ?
That's a question I'm unable to answer due to my position.
But I guess if you start to work against Jaaskaa and the ARPD do I think that's an option, yes.
Reconsider your resignations before it's too late, you're doing this in anger and without thinking. How about to give it some time?
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SAPD Was good before this changes, i want to see now, who will chatch the criminals, with no SAPD team, hard working guys who resigned...
Again with the narcissistic comments. You (the people who decided to resign) were not, and never will be, the entire organization.
Cane, stop with this comments, you're pissing me of.
I dont see you work on the field, you're like those people who get dark blue name and sit all the day talking in main chat.
Start working bro, get a life and stop posting stupid things
Hey, people won't get less pissed off by you saying that. Calm down mate.
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SAPD Was good before this changes, i want to see now, who will chatch the criminals, with no SAPD team, hard working guys who resigned...
Again with the narcissistic comments. You (the people who decided to resign) were not, and never will be, the entire organization.
Cane, stop with this comments, you're pissing me of.
I dont see you work on the field, you're like those people who get dark blue name and sit all the day talking in main chat.
Start working bro, get a life and stop posting stupid things
Hey, people won't get less pissed off by you saying that. Calm down mate.
Its not fare, people who dont know the job that we do, posting thinks like that...
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Lets also make clear that one of the changes that SAPD command was not happy about is that new appointments of command staff will have to be approved by the ARPD Commissioner.
Jaaskaa has a pretty good memory, which means that resigining in anger now may bite you in the ass later.
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President, is that SAPD Command or Departmental Command(Sergeant)+?
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which means that resigining in anger now may bite you in the ass later.
And Jaaskaa has big goddamn teeth.
On another note, this mass resignation proves that you guys did not want to work for the SAPD, you were working for your badge.
I do hope that none of you are considered for public services ingame again, and if this attitude is translated from real life, which it MUST be, then I hope you never become part of the public services in real life either.
Ciao.
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Lol, Jaaska is really doing great improvements, I'm sure he is, and he's making SAPD and SWAT better and better by promoting the chief of LU "Jenn Kolta" to SAPD Officer, and to SWAT! I never saw Jenn IG! I never saw Jenn doing any police work in SAMP! How does a non experience person get SAPD officer rank without EVEN applying for SAPD and without EVEN being accepted as SAPD Cadet? Look with your own eyes, go to the SAPD member list if you think I'm lying, Jenn kolta SAPD Officer and SWAT.
Yeaaaa, those "promotions" u guys call are really fair. What's the difference between a person who applys for SAPD and after waiting several months to get even accepted as cadet and then works his ass off and then gets accepted as SAPD officer, and with a person who didn't even apply to SAPD, and isn't even there IG, and gets automatically promoted to SAPD Officer and gets SWAT?
Excuse me, but who are you? I've been in this server for YEARS. I have MUCH MORE previous experience than a LOT of people could think of. I have been in SAPD before as a Sergeant. If I had no experience, would I have been a previous VCPD Chief, and current LCPD Chief? No, I would not. I did apply to SAPD again, I was accepted as a Cadet. I was offered the chance to apply for reinstatement, but I went on to go to the Academy. Please do not post bullshit about me or my positions.
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Well for as far as SWAT goes... I do not think that this was a smart move, the SWAT team there was had a great performance. They knew a ton of tactics, worked together like a real team (I've patrolled several times with them, it's shocking how well they cooperated compared to most SAPD Officers...) and did their job. They had rules and they followed them, like in real life.
What will happen now is that they have complete freedom of what cars to use, what weapons to use and no rules about when to shoot or whatsoever. So for the criminals, instead of thinking this is a good decision for you, it's actually going to be a LOT harder for you now :)
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Lol, Jaaska is really doing great improvements, I'm sure he is, and he's making SAPD and SWAT better and better by promoting the chief of LU "Jenn Kolta" to SAPD Officer, and to SWAT! I never saw Jenn IG! I never saw Jenn doing any police work in SAMP! How does a non experience person get SAPD officer rank without EVEN applying for SAPD and without EVEN being accepted as SAPD Cadet? Look with your own eyes, go to the SAPD member list if you think I'm lying, Jenn kolta SAPD Officer and SWAT.
Yeaaaa, those "promotions" u guys call are really fair. What's the difference between a person who applys for SAPD and after waiting several months to get even accepted as cadet and then works his ass off and then gets accepted as SAPD officer, and with a person who didn't even apply to SAPD, and isn't even there IG, and gets automatically promoted to SAPD Officer and gets SWAT?
Excuse me, but who are you? I've been in this server for YEARS. I have MUCH MORE previous experience than a LOT of people could think of. I have been in SAPD before as a Sergeant. If I had no experience, would I have been a previous VCPD Chief, and current LCPD Chief? No, I would not. I did apply to SAPD again, I was accepted as a Cadet. I was offered the chance to apply for reinstatement, but I went on to go to the Academy. Please do not post bullshit about me or my positions.
Jenn, personally I totally agree with the fact that you are an excellent choice due to your high levels of experience, both in the SAPD, and the fact you are linked to many servers.
My only slight worry is that you must have no time to go out in real life, since you have so many responsibilities on here :devroll:
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First of all, I'm George , and second of all, I don't care if you were past Sergeant or your ranks you have right now. I didn't see you active IG, and if you want to get in SWAT you must work hard for it, but its really strange that a newly accepted SAPD officer is SWAT directly, shouldn't you stay more active IG and to prove yourself worth SWAT member?
Lol.
Anyways, I will stop posting now, I'm tired of this.
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To those guys who resigned, the criminal side is always looking for helping hands :D
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Lol, Jaaska is really doing great improvements, I'm sure he is, and he's making SAPD and SWAT better and better by promoting the chief of LU "Jenn Kolta" to SAPD Officer, and to SWAT! I never saw Jenn IG! I never saw Jenn doing any police work in SAMP! How does a non experience person get SAPD officer rank without EVEN applying for SAPD and without EVEN being accepted as SAPD Cadet? Look with your own eyes, go to the SAPD member list if you think I'm lying, Jenn kolta SAPD Officer and SWAT.
Yeaaaa, those "promotions" u guys call are really fair. What's the difference between a person who applys for SAPD and after waiting several months to get even accepted as cadet and then works his ass off and then gets accepted as SAPD officer, and with a person who didn't even apply to SAPD, and isn't even there IG, and gets automatically promoted to SAPD Officer and gets SWAT?
Excuse me, but who are you? I've been in this server for YEARS. I have MUCH MORE previous experience than a LOT of people could think of. I have been in SAPD before as a Sergeant. If I had no experience, would I have been a previous VCPD Chief, and current LCPD Chief? No, I would not. I did apply to SAPD again, I was accepted as a Cadet. I was offered the chance to apply for reinstatement, but I went on to go to the Academy. Please do not post bullshit about me or my positions.
Jenn, personally I totally agree with the fact that you are an excellent choice due to your high levels of experience, both in the SAPD, and the fact you are linked to many servers.
My only slight worry is that you must have no time to go out in real life, since you have so many responsibilities on here :devroll:
I'm good at managing my time wisely, don't worry. ;)
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Well for as far as SWAT goes... I do not think that this was a smart move, the SWAT team there was had a great performance. They knew a ton of tactics, worked together like a real team (I've patrolled several times with them, it's shocking how well they cooperated compared to most SAPD Officers...) and did their job. They had rules and they followed them, like in real life.
What will happen now is that they have complete freedom of what cars to use, what weapons to use and no rules about when to shoot or whatsoever. So for the criminals, instead of thinking this is a good decision for you, it's actually going to be a LOT harder for you now :)
SWAT are meant to be normal officers who meet up occasionally when called, in Argonath anyway.
They were not meant to patrol in buffaloes and chase suspects, and various comments I have seen suggest that yes, they kept to their own rules, because they practically had none.
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I'm good at managing my time wisely, don't worry. ;)
Do my A Levels please :D
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I NOW LOVE YOU VINCE
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I really wasn't expecting such a reaction, it's simply the truth. :help:
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lol..
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Guys please, don't go all shitting on each other. If that's the truth then so be it. But don't ever do that shit again.
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I really wasn't expecting such a reaction, it's simply the truth. :help:
:rofl:
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:sheriff:
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Moderator notice: please return to shitting on Jaaskaa. Do not switch to easy targets.
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Lol pedro.
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Moderator notice: please return to shitting on Jaaskaa. Do not switch to easy targets.
That's why you're the wise bearded man :gandalf:
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10-4
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Stop moaning, you accepted Jaaskaa's conditions and you Welcomed him in the first place with HAPPINESS. And now you start wondering why? You accepted the conditions, you accept the consequences. Every suspension or punishement has its own reason, you know.
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Indeed Lionel.
People were as happy as a pig in it's own doodoo when Jaaskaa first came in announcing changes, agreeing that they needed to be done.
Now they realise that they were part of the change, they hate him.
Go figure.
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:lol:
Actually, what Jaaskaa did made sense, so I'll go shit in a toilet or something instead :roll:
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Indeed Lionel.
People were as happy as a pig in it's own doodoo when Jaaskaa first came in announcing changes, agreeing that they needed to be done.
Now they realise that they were part of the change, they hate him.
Go figure.
Really. I think it clearly stated that it was going to happen, it's not like anyone had a vote in that lol so don't go and say people here are a part of the change.
Go figure.
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All the changes that I have seen have been positive in my opinion and will help the SAPD move forward.
YOU Go figure.
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The loyal stay.
The non loyal leave.
The strong stay.
The weak leave.
The ones willing to enhance change stay.
The ones who complain without knowing what happened leave without explanation.
Change is happening, only the loyal and strong will succeed.
Let me re-write it for you :
The loyal leaves (yes, all his friends got kicked for no reason, so he's loyal to his friends)
The non-loyal stays (yes, he's rank hunter and only cares about his darblue name)
The strong leaves (he prefers to stay in SAPD instead of leaving it, but he makes a strong decision)
The weak stays (of course... he's fking weak, and as I said, only cares of his darkblue name)
The ones willing to enhance asslick stay.
The ones who complain knowing what happened leave without explanation.
We don't need lessons from FBI.
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The loyal stay.
The non loyal leave.
The strong stay.
The weak leave.
The ones willing to enhance change stay.
The ones who complain without knowing what happened leave without explanation.
Change is happening, only the loyal and strong will succeed.
with respect, that is not always true.
The loyal stay.
The non loyal leave.
The strong stay.
The weak leave.
The ones willing to enhance change stay.
The ones who complain without knowing what happened leave without explanation.
Change is happening, only the loyal and strong will succeed.
Let me re-write it for you :
The loyal leaves (yes, all his friends got kicked for no reason, so he's loyal to his friends)
The non-loyal stays (yes, he's rank hunter and only cares about his darblue name)
The strong leaves (he prefers to stay in SAPD instead of leaving it, but he makes a strong decision)
The weak stays (of course... he's fking weak, and as I said, only cares of his darkblue name)
The ones willing to enhance asslick stay.
The ones who complain knowing what happened leave without explanation.
We don't need lessons from FBI.
that also looks like complete donkey doo.
JAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA, please make all names light blue again :(
Lol, Jaaska is really doing great improvements, I'm sure he is, and he's making SAPD and SWAT better and better by promoting the chief of LU "Jenn Kolta" to SAPD Officer, and to SWAT! I never saw Jenn IG! I never saw Jenn doing any police work in SAMP! How does a non experience person get SAPD officer rank without EVEN applying for SAPD and without EVEN being accepted as SAPD Cadet? Look with your own eyes, go to the SAPD member list if you think I'm lying, Jenn kolta SAPD Officer and SWAT.
Yeaaaa, those "promotions" u guys call are really fair. What's the difference between a person who applys for SAPD and after waiting several months to get even accepted as cadet and then works his ass off and then gets accepted as SAPD officer, and with a person who didn't even apply to SAPD, and isn't even there IG, and gets automatically promoted to SAPD Officer and gets SWAT?
Excuse me, but who are you? I've been in this server for YEARS. I have MUCH MORE previous experience than a LOT of people could think of. I have been in SAPD before as a Sergeant. If I had no experience, would I have been a previous VCPD Chief, and current LCPD Chief? No, I would not. I did apply to SAPD again, I was accepted as a Cadet. I was offered the chance to apply for reinstatement, but I went on to go to the Academy. Please do not post bullshit about me or my positions.
Oh, please.
You were in SAPD as a Sergeant because you asslicked your way up there, and I know that for a fact because I was the one that promoted you there. I decided to give you a chance as Sergeant and you failed. You did nothing that would represent a Sergeant and ended up getting fired a week later for disloyalty and failure to preform your duty.
I am not here to say you do not have the chance to do a good job as whatever rank you now are, and considering who put you there I sincerely doubt you got there by asslicking. You are given another chance, I hope you do succeed in all honesty, but do not lie about the past and act as if you were some 1337z0rs Sgt. :roll:
f**king pwned up the ass with a dildo
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
None of this behavior would be tolerated in main Argonath forums and should not be tolerated here.
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The loyal stay.
The non loyal leave.
The strong stay.
The weak leave.
The ones willing to enhance change stay.
The ones who complain without knowing what happened leave without explanation.
Change is happening, only the loyal and strong will succeed.
Let me re-write it for you :
The loyal leaves (yes, all his friends got kicked for no reason, so he's loyal to his friends)
The non-loyal stays (yes, he's rank hunter and only cares about his darblue name)
The strong leaves (he prefers to stay in SAPD instead of leaving it, but he makes a strong decision)
The weak stays (of course... he's fking weak, and as I said, only cares of his darkblue name)
The ones willing to enhance asslick stay.
The ones who complain knowing what happened leave without explanation.
We don't need lessons from FBI.
I assume you will be resigning if they are your thoughts, Jack? After all, you wouldn't want to be seen as a person who "only cares of his darkblue name", would you?
Cut out the pathetic jabs and jives at every opportunity, that goes to everybody - either discuss sensibly, or not at all.
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The loyal stay.
The non loyal leave.
The strong stay.
The weak leave.
The ones willing to enhance change stay.
The ones who complain without knowing what happened leave without explanation.
Change is happening, only the loyal and strong will succeed.
Let me re-write it for you :
The loyal leaves (yes, all his friends got kicked for no reason, so he's loyal to his friends)
The non-loyal stays (yes, he's rank hunter and only cares about his darblue name)
The strong leaves (he prefers to stay in SAPD instead of leaving it, but he makes a strong decision)
The weak stays (of course... he's fking weak, and as I said, only cares of his darkblue name)
The ones willing to enhance asslick stay.
The ones who complain knowing what happened leave without explanation.
We don't need lessons from FBI.
This poem would have been true if those who resigned had kept their rank.
But they'd been demoted by Jaaskaa, therefore, this shows they essentially rage quit. Nothing strong or sophisticated about it. Their toy has been taken away, so they've become enraged.
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We don't need lessons from FBI.
Apperently you do. If you don't have the decency to seriously and properly review someone's opinion, just because he is part of an organization you don't like, then you do need a lesson. If you seriously believe in what you've written, trying to contradict both the truth, and yourself, you do need a lesson. Maybe you don't want to accept a friendly hand trying to help both you and the SAPD, but a lot of people -do- welcome that. Speak for yourself next time.
We don't need stubbornity and stupidity.
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We don't need lessons from FBI.
Apperently you do. If you don't have the decency to seriously and properly review someone's opinion, just because he is part of an organization you don't like, then you do need a lesson. If you seriously believe in what you've written, trying to contradict both the truth, and yourself, you do need a lesson. Maybe you don't want to accept a friendly hand trying to help both you and the SAPD, but a lot of people -do- welcome that. Speak for yourself next time.
We don't need stubbornity and stupidity.
Indeed.
:leroy2:
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Jack, it's because of people like you that relations between the two agencies have been really bad some months ago. But you resigned from yourself, without reason but anyway I don't care, you just made the best choice IMO. Bye!
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What does this mean, no more Calgon patrol?
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The ones willing to enhance asslick stay.
nigga plz, I stay because I love what I do. In my opinion, If I was a arse licker, I would be, say a captain or a lieutenant. Not a senior officer. Stop generalizing.
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What does this mean, no more Calgon patrol?
Apparently that stuff only works well with washing machines. :sheriff:
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Let me re-write it for you :
The loyal leaves (yes, all his friends got kicked for no reason, so he's loyal to his friends)
The non-loyal stays (yes, he's rank hunter and only cares about his darblue name)
The strong leaves (he prefers to stay in SAPD instead of leaving it, but he makes a strong decision)
The weak stays (of course... he's fking weak, and as I said, only cares of his darkblue name)
The ones willing to enhance asslick stay.
The ones who complain knowing what happened leave without explanation.
We don't need lessons from FBI.
Complete bullshit.
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The ones willing to enhance asslick stay.
nigga plz, I stay because I love what I do. In my opinion, If I was a arse licker, I would be, say a captain or a lieutenant. Not a senior officer. Stop generalizing.
True, I do think that the SAPD Command hate me and Monkey for being so loyal to DPD's principles :rofl:
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This is good. It's kinda like selective breeding. The good traits will stay within SAPD with high morale, a willing to police and they will rub off on new applicants and the bad will get the boot(or resign) and the SAPD will be purified. :app:
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This is good. It's kinda like selective breeding. The good traits will stay within SAPD with high morale, a willing to police and they will rub off on new applicants and the bad will get the boot(or resign) and the SAPD will be purified. :app:
I believe Hitler thought the same way...
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This is good. It's kinda like selective breeding. The good traits will stay within SAPD with high morale, a willing to police and they will rub off on new applicants and the bad will get the boot(or resign) and the SAPD will be purified. :app:
yes indeed :leroy2:
But there are still bad people in it :neutral:
and that's kind of nazi
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This is good. It's kinda like selective breeding. The good traits will stay within SAPD with high morale, a willing to police and they will rub off on new applicants and the bad will get the boot(or resign) and the SAPD will be purified. :app:
I believe Hitler thought the same way...
True :lol:
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True, I do think that the SAPD Command hate me and Monkey for being so loyal to DPD's principles :rofl:
:lol:
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So I got medal "Chief of ARPD Officers - Leading them good" from SAPD ceremony what means now? :(
Please no take my medal :(
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We don't need lessons from FBI.
Apperently you do. If you don't have the decency to seriously and properly review someone's opinion, just because he is part of an organization you don't like, then you do need a lesson. If you seriously believe in what you've written, trying to contradict both the truth, and yourself, you do need a lesson. Maybe you don't want to accept a friendly hand trying to help both you and the SAPD, but a lot of people -do- welcome that. Speak for yourself next time.
We don't need stubbornity and stupidity.
+1
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00:00-02:23 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKK8VPXg2LQ#ws)
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00:00-02:23 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKK8VPXg2LQ#ws)
But in argonath cops leaves in body bag
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00:00-02:23 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKK8VPXg2LQ#ws)
Cool movie bro, but this isn't the "Videos" section to post vids.
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Last time I did not agree with decisions, I got kicked out of SWAT. And I been told to stop moaning about it, it's hilarious to see the current SWAT team reacts like this aswell. Not a single bit different than my reaction, I just did not resign yet ;).
SWAT is not anything I realised after my situation. Just deal with it and aim on your work in the SAPD.
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00:00-02:23 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKK8VPXg2LQ#ws)
Cool movie bro, but this isn't the "Videos" section to post vids.
Cool attitude bro, but this isn't kindergarten.
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00:00-02:23 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKK8VPXg2LQ#ws)
Cool movie bro, but this isn't the "Videos" section to post vids.
Cool attitude bro, but this isn't kindergarten.
Who said it was the kindergarten? :O
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Cane, stop with this comments, you're pissing me of.
I dont see you work on the field, you're like those people who get dark blue name and sit all the day talking in main chat.
Start working bro, get a life and stop posting stupid things
[gmod]Think before you post.[/gmod]
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Cool movie bro, but this isn't the "Videos" section to post vids.
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Cane, stop with this comments, you're pissing me of.
I dont see you work on the field, you're like those people who get dark blue name and sit all the day talking in main chat.
Start working bro, get a life and stop posting stupid things
Oh boy, you must be really new around here.
You're starting again?
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Gandalf has given all those who resigned today a chance to reconsider (http://arpd.argonathrpg.com/forum/index.php?topic=24666.0). If you are a man and can take a bit of humiliation in order to support SAPD's future and return then now is your chance.
This has given me much procrastination from my Lab reports today :lol:
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Jeezuz ****ing Chrizt people. If you cannot handle the topic, don't post. I just had to remove several comments since Gandalf's warning that were pure flaming. Further comments like this will be removed, and the poster will receive a maximum warning. Calm yourselves or leave. I won't tolerate it, and I know SA:MP SAPD Command won't either.
Moderator notice: please return to shitting on Jaaskaa. Do not switch to easy targets.
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The fact is : Ben got FIRED FROM SAPD for no obvious reason, then I had to ask people to find out I was also fired from SWAT and demoted to Officer without even knowing why. They fired 11 people from SWAT without telling them why. I don't like to be treated like shit, I worked hard for SAPD and they just throw you away like you are nothing for them. No thanks.
Or maybe you could had at least waited to hear the official announcement instead of just quitting. No ARPD Commissioner or President would be dumb enough to make so many demotions and dismissing many SWAT members for no reason.
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Jaaskaa did have a very good purpose for what is happening to you all and what is to come. He has a plan and he will put it to the test. None of you should be "OMG I WAS FIREDDD FOR NO REASON!!! DAFUQ IS DIS SH*T??!?". You all knew what was going to happen to you sooner or later. It was just a matter of time. Those that have been demoted/fired, Jaaskaa is just seeing the week and the strong. Those who removed obviously had no good reason to be in SWAT/SAPD. Those who were demoted, he just wanted to weed out the strong and the weak. For those who resigned, you are now the weak. You are not loyal, you do not stand by your fellow teammates. Those who are strong, and who did not resign; I bid you good luck for now and into the future. Jaaskaa has some very nice things to come along. But before it will get pretty, it will get ugly. Very ugly. This was only a scratch on the surface on what he is going to do/will do. I am disappointed in some of you that you resigned. Such a pity. But some of you that did resign, I'm telling truth, I sure am glad you did so. End word; Expect more to come, he didn't do this for nothing, he did this for the better.
Regards,
Leroy Kolta
What do you claim to know about stuff that might be going on not stated by Jaaskaa in his topic and what Jaaskaa think about those demotions/fired staff and the reasons why they got dismissed..?
President, is that SAPD Command or Departmental Command(Sergeant)+?
The Chief of SAPD..
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Ben was for the team, not an ass-licker. That's why he was fired.
One of the reasons i withdrew my SAPD application. Shit got mad these days.
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So just because you got kicked from SWAT, you start resigning and telling shit... If this is your real 'are' why haven't you shown this kind of attitude once you applied for SAPD?
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President, is that SAPD Command or Departmental Command(Sergeant)+?
The Chief of SAPD..
I don't understand. This is regarding who the ARPD commissioner will approve to be Command. I got my answer anyway. For anyone who wants to know, they mean Sgt+.
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[admin]Off-topic and posts which violate the forum rules will be dealt with.[/admin]
As for the changes,
I did at some point disagree with them at first, however - when a clear discussion was made between myself, Pancher, Gandalf and Jaaskaa it turned out to be something positive for the SAPD. I'm currently neutral with the changes.
Those who got demoted - I'm sorry, but at-least stay and find out what in earth is going on before you pull out the easy resignation trigger.
Those who got promoted - Well done, you have been specially assigned to lead a division which is assigned by the Chiefs.
There is a couple of hours remaining for those who resigned to reconsider their actions and think carefully about it.
I understand a leader has been fired, but it doesn't mean you can't succeed in the SAPD.
You just need to work for everything.....
Now, these are not all the changes - that's more of a little quarter. There still changes to transfer to the SAPD.
Although there still a few staff members that do not understand this whole implementations - which they will be instructed.
Some who are resigning are missing out of the excitement made in RS5 to the SAPD, which is a pure shame.
I will not run after officers just to force them to return back to the SAPD - That's completely up to you..
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Some who are resigning are missing out of the excitement made in RS5 to the SAPD, which is a pure shame.
I will not run after officers just to force them to return back to the SAPD - That's completely up to you..
This.
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Interesting about the improvements for SAPD in RS5, I'm excited :D
Will there be any explaination or so from Jaaskaa or must we figure it out our selves? :redface:
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Interesting about the improvements for SAPD in RS5, I'm excited :D
Will there be any explaination or so from Jaaskaa or must we figure it our our selves? :redface:
It shall be coming, but those who were demoted, fired, promoted, or otherwise altered should already know why.
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Interesting about the improvements for SAPD in RS5, I'm excited :D
Will there be any explaination or so from Jaaskaa or must we figure it our our selves? :redface:
It shall be coming, but those who were demoted, fired, promoted, or otherwise altered should already know why.
People don't get that we have been demoted/fired without telling us why ?
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Interesting about the improvements for SAPD in RS5, I'm excited :D
Will there be any explaination or so from Jaaskaa or must we figure it our our selves? :redface:
It shall be coming, but those who were demoted, fired, promoted, or otherwise altered should already know why.
People don't get that we have been demoted/fired without telling us why ? It's like : You are SAPD Chief, you wake up you are fired and no one tell you anything.
If you have been fired for a valid reason, even as a SAPD Chief, then I'm pretty sure you'll know what you did to be removed. If you don't, then be patient and you will find out in due time.
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I said to a few others - Jaaskaa said to me he will post a notice in a couple of hours.
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Also, if your one of those who resigned and would like to come back for a bit more detail - Get on Teamspeak, myself and Gandalf are there.
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So just because you got kicked from SWAT, you start resigning and telling shit... If this is your real 'are' why haven't you shown this kind of attitude once you applied for SAPD?
Watch your attitude... Every one have his reasons to resigned, this is not what you think..
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Not even the Command Staff were consulted with the ranks changes and how they will take place. It came to us as a surprise to see the demotion of good officers and promotions of others.
Although i do believe each department command should have been aware and asked on certain changes they were done without us...am i happy with it? certainly not....will i follow orders? at one point we all have to.
All i can say is the resignations of the officers who saw this unjust changes i fully understand, the rest of SAPD members in here who are taunting and provoking them will be dealt with accordingly so do stop okay...
I will be watching how things unfold in the near future as we were promised good changes to come, so i will be speaking to those close friends of mine who resigned to reconsider and come back, sit with me and see how things turn out....
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the demotion of good officers and promotions of others.
nicely said :P
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I can see both the pro's and con's of what happened...I can see why the decisions may have been made.
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the demotion of good officers and promotions of others.
If anything the good officers who were demoted will now stand out even more if they are outshining those who were promoted? ;)
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the demotion of good officers and promotions of others.
If anything the good officers who were demoted will now stand out even more if they are outshining those who were promoted? ;)
Who says they were good or bad? ;)
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the demotion of good officers and promotions of others.
If anything the good officers who were demoted will now stand out even more if they are outshining those who were promoted? ;)
Who says they were good or bad? ;)
Could be good AND bad... A new slant!
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the demotion of good officers and promotions of others.
If anything the good officers who were demoted will now stand out even more if they are outshining those who were promoted? ;)
Who says they were good or bad? ;)
Could be good AND bad... A new slant!
It has been known for humans to go both ways in this world.
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Call me apathetic, but I can't be bothered to read through 9 pages of topic which I know would be full of players' whining and b*tching about the recent changes, so I will just post directly... I apologize in advance for my rather brutally frank approach, but this is the best way to get my observations across without diluting them with irrelevant elements.
If someone chooses to perceive it as a simple personal insult (which it is not actually intended as), then that is no longer any of my concern.
After what I've read and what has gotten to me, after hearing about the recent turn of events, I nearly laughed my ass off. Why laughed, you may ask?
Here's why; the fact that many individuals resigned after their boss executed a series of necessary changes (and to add to the aforementioned irony, placing themselves directly under the command of the person that made them resign) shows that they possess a very poor work ethic. In real life, let's say you resigned simply because you don't like what your company division's manager did, before you know it you'd end up jobless and no better than the hobos on the streets. It may come sooner or later, but with such a bullshit set of values, it will come. I can only hope that the smarter young officers we have do not make an example of such pitiful acts of desperation.
Of course, what happens in their real lives is none of our concern, but it amuses me nonetheless as to how much stupidity certain people allow to govern their decisions to the point of throwing themselves into shit holes simply because they cannot handle a few changes made by their boss. Face it, you will always disagree with someone at one point... if simple resignation is your preferred method of handling such disagreement then you are indeed an object of pity.
One thing those Officers (especially those who chose to remain rogue) forgot is that SAPD is not a care-bears family that is here to spoon-feed you and make sure you are feeling as happy as a kid in a candy store, it's a f*cking Police Department with a chain of command. As Jaaskaa iterated in his appointment speech, if you don't like how things are then you are free to leave, for good. The military is capable of operating globally because they follow up on their progress, not their feelings.
Now some people (particularly those with small, closed minds) who read my post would conclude that I asslick Jaaskaa... if such is your conclusion then all the more I must question your mental capacity as someone who lacks the capability to differentiate between asslick and genuine respect. For years, I've worked under (and alongside) Jaaskaa (and Chase), supported their decisions, and agreed to disagree with them as well. Additionally, I already hold enough high posts... why would I need to asslick anyone?
I've personally seen what they are capable of, and after years of ethical stagnation, finally pleased to see real reform taking place in SAPD at all levels. If you cannot handle progress, then as CBFasi would put it: tough shit.
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To the Officers who were promoted, congrats.
To the Officers who were demoted but haven't resigned, good choice. You still have a chance to take back what you've lost.
To the Officers who were demoted and already filed their resignation papers, are you guys sure that you want to throw away all that you've done for SAPD?
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To the Officers who were promoted, congrats.
To the Officers who were demoted but haven't resigned, good choice. You still have a chance to take back what you've lost.
To the Officers who were demoted and already filed their resignation papers, are you guys sure that you want to throw away all that you've done for SAPD?
[admin]Bullshit posts removed. At this rate, we should remove you too.[/admin]
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Topic will be monitored even more from now on, and offensive replies would be removed.
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Call me apathetic, but I can't be bothered to read through 9 pages of topic which I know would be full of players' whining and b*tching about the recent changes, so I will just post directly... I apologize in advance for my rather brutally frank approach, but this is the best way to get my observations across without diluting them with irrelevant elements.
If someone chooses to perceive it as a simple personal insult (which it is not actually intended as), then that is no longer any of my concern.
After what I've read and what has gotten to me, after hearing about the recent turn of events, I nearly laughed my ass off. Why laughed, you may ask?
Here's why; the fact that many individuals resigned after their boss executed a series of necessary changes (and to add to the aforementioned irony, placing themselves directly under the command of the person that made them resign) shows that they possess a very poor work ethic. In real life, let's say you resigned simply because you don't like what your company division's manager did, before you know it you'd end up jobless and no better than the hobos on the streets. It may come sooner or later, but with such a bullshit set of values, it will come. I can only hope that the smarter young officers we have do not make an example of such pitiful acts of desperation.
Of course, what happens in their real lives is none of our concern, but it amuses me nonetheless as to how much stupidity certain people allow to govern their decisions to the point of throwing themselves into shit holes simply because they cannot handle a few changes made by their boss. Face it, you will always disagree with someone at one point... if simple resignation is your preferred method of handling such disagreement then you are indeed an object of pity.
One thing those Officers (especially those who chose to remain rogue) forgot is that SAPD is not a care-bears family that is here to spoon-feed you and make sure you are feeling as happy as a kid in a candy store, it's a f*cking Police Department with a chain of command. As Jaaskaa iterated in his appointment speech, if you don't like how things are then you are free to leave, for good. The military is capable of operating globally because they follow up on their progress, not their feelings.
Now some people (particularly those with small, closed minds) who read my post would conclude that I asslick Jaaskaa... if such is your conclusion then all the more I must question your mental capacity as someone who lacks the capability to differentiate between asslick and genuine respect. For years, I've worked under (and alongside) Jaaskaa (and Chase), supported their decisions, and agreed to disagree with them as well. Additionally, I already hold enough high posts... why would I need to asslick anyone?
I've personally seen what they are capable of, and after years of ethical stagnation, finally pleased to see real reform taking place in SAPD at all levels. If you cannot handle progress, then as CBFasi would put it: tough shit.
Oh yes? You're now barking about that because you weren't touched, im sure if you were demoted back to officer, i'd like to see how you would react, when you work hard and then you get a big FU from your commanders. If i was put in such a situation, i would resign as well.
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Oh yes? You're now barking about that because you weren't touched, im sure if you were demoted back to officer, i'd like to see how you would react, when you work hard and then you get a big FU from your commanders. If i was put in such a situation, i would resign as well.
I have experience promoting and demoting people... the only reason a hardworking person would receive a valid demotion would be because their performance failed to meet a standard.
If you had the same knowledge about the person in charge as I do, you would eat your words.
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Continuing this pointless argue is just waste of time, Jaaskaa is the ARPD Commissioner set by Gandalf, therefore he was chosen to make changes/plans as he decides it fits. You don't like them, well you can purely follow like some people did and resign, but don't start bullshitting after that, you weren't a man enough to say anything while you had something to lose.
Obviously you know there will be more changes coming sooner or later, if you think you are able to trust Jaaskaa and stand behind his decisions, then stay but without constantly shitting around about it.
If other people on another side don't like the decisions, they can leave and receive proper respect for their work, but starting to bullshit after you resign won't bring you a single respect.
I advise you if you relay truly want to make the best you can in SAPD, then stay, fight and make the best out of these decisions, because they will happen even if we do/don't like them, the only thing we can do is to make the best out of them.
And Max you tend to constantly have something to say against SAPD, yet you never made it in SAPD as a officer. I don't know from where you get these "facts" of yours, but better get them straight before talking.
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Just an addition to Max, you are a good friend but I accepted you in the SAPD twice and you left like twice aswell. I would not really use yourself as an example, cause you already lack in showing loyalty <3.
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And Max you tend to constantly have something to say against SAPD, yet you never made it in SAPD as a officer. I don't know from where you get these "facts" of yours, but better get them straight before talking.[/i]
[admin]Watch your words next time.[/admin]
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Oh look, my balls are bigger than yours! Seeing as this is about egos... ;)
Anyway, if you're doing your job right then you shouldn't be dissuaded by a demotion...clearly a demotion in that case would be a test...or preparation for RS5!
/me zips his mouth closed
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And Max you tend to constantly have something to say against SAPD, yet you never made it in SAPD as a officer. I don't know from where you get these "facts" of yours, but better get them straight before talking.[/i]
[admin]Watch your words next time.[/admin]
Allow me to join the discussion, so Max like you say you used to hang with Leroy so well apperently you learned nothing from him and if you're bragging by saying that you were here when Leroy was captain, well that was last year not so long..
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Drop the argument or be dropped from the forum. Your choice.
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'Ello Jack.
How are the people in the FD behaving?
Far better than the PD members I hope :D
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'Ello Jack.
How are the people in the FD behaving?
Far better than the PD members I hope :D
Much better...usually! :lol:
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'Ello Jack.
How are the people in the FD behaving?
Far better than the PD members I hope :D
Last time I passed by they were beating each other up with shovels :P
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'Ello Jack.
How are the people in the FD behaving?
Far better than the PD members I hope :D
Last time I passed by they were beating each other up with shovels :P
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[admin]Warning granted for spreading false rumors.[/admin]
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[admin]Warning granted for spreading false rumors.[/admin]
Spreading rumors to start arguments will only get you into trouble. I suggest the next time you post, you be careful about what you say. Insulting the ARPD Commissioner and making up lies about his decisions is not a smart idea.
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:rofl:
I think Chase is pretty damn experienced in Teamwork, tactics and what makes a team not die multiple times. He has been the FBI Deputy Director for years, and in the FBI for almost 4 years. I'd say that's experience enough.
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I do not want to argue or contradict with anyone but in my opinion Ben Samiir was by far the best SWAT commander because of his skills and...everything.It was a pleasure to serve under his lead.
I cannot have an impression about Chase as I did not seen him in his new position but I am talking about the past.
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I do not want to argue or contradict with anyone but in my opinion Ben Samiir was by far the best SWAT commander because of his skills and...everything.It was a pleasure to serve under his lead.
This
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My opinion about ben's tactical leadership is not a hidden message. As you may all know (or not know) ben does get work done when its time to put in work, he knows how to pick cops into his team, spend countless hours a day training them to perfect the team on the field and actually lead it.
We saw this by example when SRU was created which appeared to be the most advanced tactical team which achieved high results on the field, to be honest the criminal underworld was turned up side down while we operated in the city during the period of 20010-2011.
Maybe i don't see an overall image of why ben was needed to be removed by in my eyes SWAT was doing a good job. I just hope Chase can live upto the reputation of the current SWAT and preserve the image the criminals have about SWAT.
From time to time leaders of an organisation do make mistakes in certain aspects, in this case i think SWAT should not have been included in this change up but be patient guys, time will show us the end result.
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We saw this by example when SRU was created which appeared to be the most advanced tactical team which achieved high results on the field, to be honest the criminal underworld was turned up side down while we operated in the city during the period of 20010-2011.
Not even near the days when James Hunter or Jay Adams were leading SWAT.
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[admin]Keep such comments to yourself.[/admin]
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SRU has been around since late 09' if I'm not wrong. It was originally formed in the SRU, comprised of about 5-6 original members.
And as should always be assumed, in discussion such as these, they are opinions and not facts.
I've had my mouth shut for a long time now, so I'll let a bit of what I personally think slip.
SWAT the squad of the SAPD that has always been the most feared by criminals and revered among the SAPD. They've adapted and changed with what was needed in the servers life, as far as I've seen and they did a brilliant job so far. The most active and effective period I've seen for SWAT was the last team. I've been in SWAT since the last reformation and have gone through every damned kind of training possible for them.
Tactical, traditional, street and most of everything you could think of.
My opinion on Chase and the choices made in the current SWAT? I'll keep that to myself.
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Also if these decisions are for the "good" of SAPD why hasn't Jaaskaa even posted a "good" reason as to why these changes were made
He did. It helps if you read:
http://arpd.argonathrpg.com/forum/index.php?topic=24621 (http://arpd.argonathrpg.com/forum/index.php?topic=24621)
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May someone explain what the shizzlegizzergard happened?
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Can we see a list of all promotions/demotions/changes?
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[admin]Warning granted for continuously questioning a valid decision.[/admin]
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Also if these decisions are for the "good" of SAPD why hasn't Jaaskaa even posted a "good" reason as to why these changes were made
He did. It helps if you read:
http://arpd.argonathrpg.com/forum/index.php?topic=24621 (http://arpd.argonathrpg.com/forum/index.php?topic=24621)
I did read it, there's still no reason for the demotions/firings
Listen up!
This is not the kind of things I like doing but I have to. Several changes will hit SAPD this weekend. I do not know how long it will take to implent. But I know one thing. A lot of people will not be happy. Some will be mad, some will be sad. But the script is already decided. My job here is to make sure the transition will be as effective as possible when next script comes out. I don't have a release date but I have been requested to start making changes according to the plans I discussed with the President. I will not reveal up ahead what is comming. I know already that there will be complaints. But no matter how much you complain, you will have to live with it and adapt. I have been given a strong line to follow and I will enforce it. The very least I can expect is your support. We shouldn't stop in front of a challenge, we should work together to get the best out of it.
There will be a triple change this weekend, at different levels. You might wake up a morning with a different rank... I am not sorry about it, because I am only doing my job. Do yours and we will live happy forever. Yes you might get angry or sad and might want to quit SAPD. But think about it! It is not because your rank was removed today that it means we don't want you there. It will be removed because for the moment we can't keep you in the position. Your department might get altered or dissolved. Expect it. You might get promoted too. If needs arise.
Understand. Even Ronnel and I had to discuss many hours as I disagreed with alot of things he proposed. But in the end, I have to admit I got interested into it. I did free my mind from current perceptions and decided to apply a passive minding into which I would only project the idea and not think of the current organization. And it was fun. I hate change. But this promise to be a new interesting challenge. We are here because we want to face the challenge. Together we will.
I still know after all of this some will get real mad and sad and depressed... At this point all I can say is : Roll with us or quit. There is no compromise possible from what I saw.
That will be all for now
Break off
Any questions?
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Everyone is allowed to express themselves with a opinion if it's appropriate enough at first..
Second of all, give Chase a break and chance to show what his got......... He got appointed as SWAT Commander by the APRD Chief/President and all the sudden people began to say stuff when they have absolute no idea on what's going on. I would love to see yourself in this position.. Would you like'd to see yourself in the same situation as this?
Although it may have been unexpectedly and surprising decision of Chase's promotion, but it was mainly by Gandalf which gave him full trust and to chance to step up forward and change around SWAT a bit i suppose. And i fully trust Chase and will give him the chance to prove himself capable in the position he is in currently, and i hope you all do as-well.
Now, I'm not going to say I'm going to agree or disagree - Within the SAPD, i always remain neutral to everyone as long as they follow the simple concept of the rules provided.
Now, you guys need to be a little patient while myself, Pancher, Jaaskaa and Gandalf finish with all the extensions that will be on-going for the SAPD. Because currently, people are talking about this, that and acting like they know everything...
However, it is muchly understandable to see that a few are a bit confused on what's going on currently within the SAPD and the changes which are occurring in it. So we ask you to bare with us and be patient while we process our extensions together and build SAPD together.
As you may have noticed, these changes are mainly given by Gandalf and they will mainly affect the in game scripts as we speak.
Doors are open out if you cannot trust Jaaskaa in this kind of situation, but you are missing hell of a fun in RS5. And i can assure those who walk out from that door will return once the day comes.
I will mostly together with Pancher review most of this when everything is completed.
So please, if you ever say anything - Do it appropriately or expect the unexpected.
Will say it again, i act neutral with every single person in the whole Community. That means, no one is right or wrong.
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And expect the expected too of course!
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When Jaaskaa decides to post the reasons why, you guys will be informed as i have the Chiefs have no information about it deeply.
Then I'm pretty sure every single one of us will know what the reasons are.
Concerns regarding the demotions should be forwarded to Jaaskaa.
I will lock the topic now till then as there are argument proceeding to a non-end.
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Everyone is allowed to express themselves with a opinion if it's appropriate enough at first..
Second of all, give Chase a break and chance to show what his got......... He got appointed as SWAT Commander by the APRD Chief/President and all the sudden people began to say stuff when they have absolute no idea on what's going on. I would love to see yourself in this position.. Would you like'd to see yourself in the same situation as this?
Although it may have been unexpectedly and surprising decision of Chase's promotion, but it was mainly by Gandalf which gave him full trust and to chance to step up forward and change around SWAT a bit i suppose. And i fully trust Chase and will give him the chance to prove himself capable in the position he is in currently, and i hope you all do as-well.
Now, I'm not going to say I'm going to agree or disagree - Within the SAPD, i always remain neutral to everyone as long as they follow the simple concept of the rules provided.
Now, you guys need to be a little patient while myself, Pancher, Jaaskaa and Gandalf finish with all the extensions that will be on-going for the SAPD. Because currently, people are talking about this, that and acting like they know everything...
However, it is muchly understandable to see that a few are a bit confused on what's going on currently within the SAPD and the changes which are occurring in it. So we ask you to bare with us and be patient while we process our extensions together and build SAPD together.
As you may have noticed, these changes are mainly given by Gandalf and they will mainly affect the in game scripts as we speak.
Doors are open out if you cannot trust Jaaskaa in this kind of situation, but you are missing hell of a fun in RS5. And i can assure those who walk out from that door will return once the day comes.
I will mostly together with Pancher review most of this when everything is completed.
So please, if you ever say anything - Do it appropriately or expect the unexpected.
Will say it again, i act neutral with every single person in the whole Community. That means, no one is right or wrong.
Chase will do fine as SWAT Commander. I worked with him alot back when i had captain and he was the Deputy Director in FBI. He will lead SWAT to new places. That is never wrong.